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Let me start by saying that I'm not some hardcore phone enthusiast. I don't care about having a 16-core 43847293847293847893 petaflop processor with a GPU equivalent to 2 Nvidia SLIs.
I mainly care about battery life and UI/App smoothness (Especially the browser). A good-looking UI is also good, but not mandatory.
I was reading a review about the recently released Samsung Z3 (Tizen phone) from a Russian site called mobile-review (You can google it. Not hard to find.) and here is a snippet of the battery portion of the review:
By modern standards, Li-Ion 2600 mAh battery capacity is perceived as typical, not very large battery. If we draw parallels with Android, there is a 5-inch device with the battery does not run for a long time, it's the strength of a single day. But the organization of Tizen is that in real mode of the device shows the stunning results in which it is simply impossible to believe, and you have a long look at the phone and ask why he is still working.
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Unfortunately, the utility does not show the screen during operation, but in my case, about 2 hours. In mixed mode, when you are using a browser other functions, you can achieve in practice 3-4 days a full time job working with the screen at the level of 7-8 hours. It's fantastic.
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The review was translated using google translate. If you're having trouble deciphering what the guy is saying, he's simply stating that the Z3 can run for 3-4 days with 7-8 hours of screen on-time. The reviewer is shocked and impressed.
Note that the Z3 only has a 2,600 mAH battery and isn't even using the latest and most efficient components available.
I would love to have a phone that can last that long. My Galaxy Note 3 and 4 with its 3,000+ mAH battery doesn't even last half as long. It'll get 2 days of use with 4 hours SoT. iPhones are even worse.
If a Tizen phone ever reaches the US, I'm planning on jumping ship unless google gets Android in order. Processors are plenty powerful today to run basic tasks fluidly. All I care about is battery life.
Hello all,
I got the T-mobile LGV10, I have been using it for the past 15 days, I have noticed that the battery life is pretty bad, doesn't even last a day, every time I turn the screen on I would see it dropping 1 or 2 percent. I have installed cleanMaster app and been noticing the RAM usage being at 80-87% all the time. I think it is unusual to be utilizing that much RAM. Apart from these two, the camera is awesome and I'm in love with the second screen.
However, I have decided to turn the phone in and get the Note 5. I have already claimed the LG V10 promo and my status says "approved". Do you think it is bad on part of me to return the phone to T-mobile since I have already claimed the promo? I'm feeling bit guilty to do so. Anyway T-mobile would charge me restocking fee of $50, however I'm getting the card and battery for free right. Is it immoral to do that. What do you guys think?
Whats your usage?
I no longer trust CM. Have you disabled the bloatware?
No need to feel guilty because you can't use the battery or the sd card in your note 5 LOL.
jamor414 said:
No need to feel guilty because you can't use the battery or the sd card in your note 5 LOL.
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Lmfao...
. Sounds like there is something wrong. I get over 5 hours SOT. Either way, enjoy the N5, looks like an amazing phone.
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Just switched from the V10 to the Note 5, the V10 was a great phone, but I was used to Samsung after having the Note 3 and 4, word of advice, get a case with your note 5. Both phones are great, but I like the AMOLED and the S-Pen.
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SOT. a little over 4hrs for me and good enough and liking the phone
Lol. Wait til you get the note5 and ram useage is always 100%. No joke. Samsung is having a hell of a time with memory management on their exynos 7420 devices. I had the S6 and Note5 and you'll regret making the switch.
Funny, I'm trading my Note 5 in for either the V10 or the G4 tomorrow. Haven't we all agreed by now that Clean Master and any of that Cheetah Mobile cesspool of **** is basically malware? Plus who cares if ram is at 85% or 15%? Unused ram is wasted ram. If it's not affecting your multitasking, then who cares?
Factory reset it and do not install any apps, see if it makes a difference before you eat the restocking fee
I had the same issue. I ended up doing a Factory reset, and let Google restore my apps. This fixed my horrible battery life.
I came from the note 5. I didn't think it was what it was all cracked up to be. It was nice, snappy at first but lag after a few days. Battery was so so. It constantly had issues of not pushing notifications, such as emails, until I unlocked the screen. I had multiple replacements and they all had the same issues.
They all would freeze when I would open an excel attachment, sometimes for a minute, sometime it would never recover unless I rebooted. I replicated this over and over.
The note is slippery as snot. I will slide of flat surfaces lol
Don't get me wrong though, I liked the note 5. It's is a good phone, but its buggy still and has its flaws.
As far as the promo, if you gave the v10 back, you should probably give those back as well. It's the right thing to do. ?
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I came from a Note Edge to my V10 and I LOVE the V10. Battery is WAY better on this phone for sure. I get about 4-5 hours SOT and blast all day before plugging it in. And with the promo battery replacement, who cares if it dies. Flip the battery and roll on. Debloat and greenify and that'll make a difference. I'm running stock ROM with Greenify and I've got no complaints. Can't wait to see how a more slimmed down ROM will treat my battery.
srini88 said:
Hello all,
I got the T-mobile LGV10, I have been using it for the past 15 days, I have noticed that the battery life is pretty bad, doesn't even last a day, every time I turn the screen on I would see it dropping 1 or 2 percent. I have installed cleanMaster app and been noticing the RAM usage being at 80-87% all the time. I think it is unusual to be utilizing that much RAM. Apart from these two, the camera is awesome and I'm in love with the second screen.
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Don't be so quick to do so. I was having a rough first week or two with the V10. I rooted it, installed Xposed with a few modules, and now the phone is just about perfect.
First week or two I was getting insane wakelocks. Bluetooth would drain battery when left on (for no damn reason - no phone should do that when not connected to a device, but my Note5 did it too). I would have to plug it in at least once during the day for the most part (not a big issue since I only have quickchargers). Once I got root and Xposed, I was able to use Greenify and take control of a lot of apps making the phone use practically nothing when not in use. Over 9 hours last night I only lost about 8% which isn't bad at all in my eyes (second screen on too). The V10 handles multitasking a lot better than the Note5 because apps will stay in memory longer. Using 85% of 4GB sounds like you have something wrong with your apps, but unless you hit 100% you don't have anything to worry about. I never, ever look at RAM usage on my Android devices - there is no point, it's supposed to be a high % utilized! Was also able to set the phone to a more usable DPI of 540 for most apps (excluding system).
The V10 just has a lot more useful features in my eyes. The Note5 is a great phone for someone who just wants something easy to use. The only thing I wish the V10 had was an AMOLED screen, especially with the secondary display. Apart from that, I don't miss the S-pen, and I certainly don't miss Samsung's UI. I might actually start downloading some games on my V10 since I have so much storage I don't know what to do with it all, and that might leave me desiring the SD 810 instead of the 808, but maybe the G5 will be everything we want and more... haha.
mikeyinid said:
Lol. Wait til you get the note5 and ram useage is always 100%. No joke. Samsung is having a hell of a time with memory management on their exynos 7420 devices. I had the S6 and Note5 and you'll regret making the switch.
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Not going to happen. His RAM usage will be fairly low actually because Samsung kills apps way too frequently. That's the RAM management issue - multitasking sucks because apps always have to reload. It has nothing to do with a lack of available RAM.
I wouldn't feel bad about keeping the promo stuff. The stuff in now technically used, so they can't resell it. Plus, the logistics of them processing the return would probably be more effort than it's worth to them. I bet if you tried, they'd refuse anyway.
When I returned my Note Edge, they told me to keep the charger and cable.
FWIW, my AT&T V10, stock out of the box, is giving me better battery life than any other phone I've owned. I haven't bothered checking the stats, but I was able to just barely get 2 days use out of it, which is a first for me without resorting to a zerolemon battery.
One thing to consider, T-Mobile bloatware drains battery. I found out when I had the g4, that there is an app that is always checking if you rooted your phone. You can see it pop up if you are rooted as it is constantly requesting root access (com.tmobile.PR.adapt or something like that). I removed it with Titanium Backup (along with all the other TMo apps) and battery life greatly improved.
There are two rules in life for being successful:
1. Never reveal everything you know;
2.
Disable bloatware, turn off VoLTE and you will see a huge difference in battery life.
I was concerned about my battery life, but after a few days I'm getting 4-5 hours of SOT. I would keep the device and the promos.
First day playing with the phone outside in Florida Sun, auto brightness, stock, no bloat diabled. The last 21% kept on going 'til I went to sleep. Comparing to my G4, the v10 has been slightly better. YMMV
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V10 v Note5 (exynos cpu)
Nitemare3219 said:
Don't be so quick to do so. I was having a rough first week or two with the V10. I rooted it, installed Xposed with a few modules, and now the phone is just about perfect.
First week or two I was getting insane wakelocks. Bluetooth would drain battery when left on (for no damn reason - no phone should do that when not connected to a device, but my Note5 did it too). I would have to plug it in at least once during the day for the most part (not a big issue since I only have quickchargers). Once I got root and Xposed, I was able to use Greenify and take control of a lot of apps making the phone use practically nothing when not in use. Over 9 hours last night I only lost about 8% which isn't bad at all in my eyes (second screen on too). The V10 handles multitasking a lot better than the Note5 because apps will stay in memory longer. Using 85% of 4GB sounds like you have something wrong with your apps, but unless you hit 100% you don't have anything to worry about. I never, ever look at RAM usage on my Android devices - there is no point, it's supposed to be a high % utilized! Was also able to set the phone to a more usable DPI of 540 for most apps (excluding system).
The V10 just has a lot more useful features in my eyes. The Note5 is a great phone for someone who just wants something easy to use. The only thing I wish the V10 had was an AMOLED screen, especially with the secondary display. Apart from that, I don't miss the S-pen, and I certainly don't miss Samsung's UI. I might actually start downloading some games on my V10 since I have so much storage I don't know what to do with it all, and that might leave me desiring the SD 810 instead of the 808, but maybe the G5 will be everything we want and more... haha.
Not going to happen. His RAM usage will be fairly low actually because Samsung kills apps way too frequently. That's the RAM management issue - multitasking sucks because apps always have to reload. It has nothing to do with a lack of available RAM.
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I know all about Samsung's memory management. They're killing user apps but not system. Ram useage on that device is always maxed even with stock settings. That's why when you edit your build.prop the device always becomes slow and laggy after a while. Forcing it to keep user apps plus all the system services...
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I know all about Samsung's memory management. They're killing user apps but not system. Ram useage on that device is always maxed even with stock settings. That's why when you edit your build.prop the device always becomes slow and laggy after a while. Forcing it to keep user apps plus all the system services...
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I never had that problem with my Note 4, S6 Edge, or Note5. Plenty of RAM was always available. It just killed user apps for no reason.
Having come from a Note 5 I can promise you you'll be getting comparable battery life and similar performance without the ability to battery swap.
I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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abdou1998 said:
So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
abdou1998 said:
So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
alex_mx said:
Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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Well,
I expected a lot more from a phone that costed over 1000 $ when released.
Although I did purchased it used,many things frustrate me a lot so lets go by order:
1. Yellowish tint on screen which makes white color not so white,like the night filter option is ON,screen is not changed on this phone,so only thing I could do is go to vivid settings decrease red channel all the way and set colors to more cooler tone,but just setting to Natural display settings yellow tone is more then noticeable..
Dunno is it just my phone or any others experience this issue.
2.Battery is terrible.I noticed last night drop of 4 % while only GSM in 4 hours so I suppose while in stanby it looses 1 % per hour,my Ulefone Power 5S doesn't loose any battery capacity while ON though it has 13 000 mAh battery.
This issue I couldn't resolve,I suppose it is like that way,because I had same issue before with Note 8 which was bought used,though phone was not used that much because I was frustrated with battery lasting at most 1 day of mediocre usage.
While this phone is on WiFi battery loses capacity drastically.
I even switched it to power saving mode ON,turned off all gestures,turned black theme on,every possible way to save battery but still loosing capacity with simple GSM signal.
3 Wifi quality signal is pretty bad,even my good old S7 edge beats the 1000 $ phone,it usually is droping signal from other networks id there are many outdoors but indoors it has good quality signal.
I figured out for unknown reason that when I turn OFF power saving signal I do get better Wifi quality/strength signal,dunno why,is it just me phone or what the f..k.
4. Very bad sound quality from caller ovet network,while outdoors I can barely hear someone talking while making calls.
Dunno what else,if I remember I will post in same topic,don't think it's just my phone because I see many comlaining about this on this very own forum.
I can't tell anything positive for a phone that costed 1000 $ and I can't get over these things,so Samsung what where you thinking when you released this phone.
No more Samsung phones for me,next I will try Huawei.
Well, I sincerely do not recognize what you describe as a note 10+, not a single issue you mention has happened to me, if you are so frustrated, sell it
have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
Bomn said:
have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
paparazzo79 said:
Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
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The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.
I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.
Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.
So, day one, regular use for me, at 50% after nearly 9 hours! Thats a record for a Samsung device, for me.
Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
tomy159 said:
Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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Chrome. Great desktop browser but a terrible battery hog for phones. If you'd used Samsung browser you'd see much better battery
lawtq said:
Chrome. Great desktop browser but a terrible battery hog for phones. If you'd used Samsung browser you'd see much better battery
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I believe that but I use chrome for work (password) saved there is well and all saved tab I need.
But same usage and same apps I used on pixel 7 pro is well so was hope that will same or similar better then pixel.
I not have issue on pixel great battery etc just few thing piss me off on pixels and for work spen is priceless for me.
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Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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That's probably "good" (?) for the S23U, especially if not optimized. All Samsung's should be optimized for best battery life and performance. Either by Package Disabler or adb edits.
Even with a degraded battery that due to be replaced I'm getting 8 hours or so on an optimized* N10+; easily over 12 hours SOT on a new battery. Samsung's stock solution has been to use a bigger battery since the N20U, with progressively worse SOT per mAh in spite of what should be more efficient SOCs and ram... and now no expandable storage.
*unoptimized the N10+ was a hot running hog that got 6.5 hrs SOT. Optimizing nearly doubled the SOT as significantly increased the screen off time as well. Backup Transport was a major perpetrator.
I got 19 hours on day one. Today I'm at 43% after just under 10 hours with just under 4 hours screen on time
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I got 19 hours on day one. Today I'm at 43% after just under 10 hours with just under 4 hours screen on time
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N10+, screen off, cell/internet service on with AOD set to tap on, I use less than .5%@hr.
With good battery I use a total of 6-7% browsing with Brave, again with a good battery. Display manual brightness of 30-40%
With a degraded battery which is at replacement time this is what I'm getting, most of which is watching utube vids.
No 5G or variable refresh rate display, power set to optimized. This is with a less efficient ram and presumably SOC. More significantly much less mAh capacity.
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Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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For P7P, I find it varies wildly by ROM. Stock is a good middle ground, I think the best so far for me have been the AOSP-based ones with Gapps.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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I was about to comment the same. I never got that kind of SOT on the pixel 7 pro after three months of having the device max would be 5 1/2 probably six squeezing everybit of juice. Good device but for battery the s23 ultra is giving me way more for the same usage no optimization.
I think by enabling the light performance profile, the device becomes a battery champion
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I was about to comment the same. I never got that kind of SOT on the pixel 7 pro after three months of having the device max would be 5 1/2 probably six squeezing everybit of juice. Good device but for battery the s23 ultra is giving me way more for the same usage no optimization.
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Yeah I will say the February beta has had me going 39h off the charger with 5h SoT but that's largely been on wifi. I know from messing with my OnePlus 9 that it doesn't *have* to be super draining on LTE but I've taken the Pixel out on a day's outing and had it lose 50% in 3 hours on LTE/5G.
I've "upgraded" from the Fold4 in the hope that battery life would be much better. I'm blown away by how long this thing lasts!
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I've "upgraded" from the Fold4 in the hope that battery life would be much better. I'm blown away by how long this thing lasts!
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SoC upgraded with a better power-efficiency, far smaller screen surface to power and also 600mha more on the battery. An other outcome would have been surprising.
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SoC upgraded with a better power-efficiency, far smaller screen surface to power and also 600mha more on the battery. An other outcome would have been surprising.
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Whole heartedly agree. My usage on the Fold4 - I hardly used the internal screen (I know, I know!). Comparing external screen use alone, this thing wins night and day. Surprising in some ways because of the resolution and pixels being driven vs the fold4 external display, but as you say, more efficient SoC coupled with a slightly larger battery must be working its magic.
Standby drain overnight is something else I've noticed as being much better too.
Early days, but I would charge my fold4 sometimes as much as 3 times throughout the day. This thing comfortably lasts a full day with many hours of screen on time and has battery left to spare. Amazing efficiency gains considering the short time frame between the two SoC's.
Mine is still optimization but so far looks good. Day 2 of use. Far better than my S22U exynos.

Second full day of usage, include setup cameras and work
Again 3 hours on Spotify +Bluetooth speaker, all turn on GPS, Bluetooth, WiFi, 5G + WiFi etc it's little better then yesterday around 8h+ on display still has 6% left.
Hope will possible on my use 9h+ on display.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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Nop, I got problem on pixel 6 pro Thst was big issue and charge phone 3 times a day but pixel 7pro its really similar battery like S23U right now.
It was 8h+ on display and all turn on and max resolution.
Big issue is on Bluetooth wasn't work with my huawei watch 3 pro they block it.
Not sure maybe is my phone some premium to have that but I seen better then my also.
Latest. Everything max. Bluetooth and location on all time. Poor cell reception at work. Streaming radio on commute. So impressed with this. It blows the 22 exynos away.
tomy159 said:
Nop, I got problem on pixel 6 pro Thst was big issue and charge phone 3 times a day but pixel 7pro its really similar battery like S23U right now.
It was 8h+ on display and all turn on and max resolution.
Big issue is on Bluetooth wasn't work with my huawei watch 3 pro they block it.
Not sure maybe is my phone some premium to have that but I seen better then my also.
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I mean I guess if I use my 7 Pro straight through I can get 8 hours pretty easily as my average screen on usage is 8%/hr but the standby time is awful, like 2% drain per hour. This is all on wifi too. If I am on mobile network, I'm looking at 12-15%/hr screen on and 3-4.5% standby drain. I can't wait to have the more efficient modem in the S23U.