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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
stnel said:
I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
kirbygonzalo said:
Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
sdk16420 said:
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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check softpedia also
I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
stnel said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
There are a few threads out there that have touched on this issue but none as far as I can see that deal with it directly.
The problem comes when you display a pure black screen in low light conditions. It shows that the AMOLED screen is actually grey / blotchy / cloudy instead of being pure black. Initially I thought mine had fingerprints or smudge marks on it, until I realised they were behind the screen. I guess I might have got a phone with a screen that was replaced, but the amount of people who have also reported a similar issue leads me to believe that it might be a manufacturing default? The blotches / clouds on the screen dont change, but exhibit a random formation as one would expect from a defect. It is also possible to see a very faint outline of light running along 3 edges of the screen.
Naturally this is a situation that doesnt reveal itself very often. But I as I use my phone a lot at night, especially reading ebooks or watching films, you start to notice it more and more where you have large expanses of empty black screen.
What I would like to know is how many people have got screens that exhibit this behaviour and how many of you have sent them in for service or had them replaced?
Is it a common issue and something that is to be expected from this type of screen?
You can test if yours has this problem using 'Screen Test' (its free) from the market place. It cycles through solid colours and patterns every time you touch the screen.
Just do it in bed with all the lights out P), give your eyes a few seconds to adjust and see what your screen looks like displaying pure black.
I'm very interested in everyone's experiences and any input or information you have.
Thanks everyone in advance!
ps: I came from a ZTE blade (OLED) which has a uniformly dark grey background when displaying pure black. I kinda expect this as it is a budget phone (albeit with a better than budget screen), but I didnt expect the SGS2 to be quite as bad.
Use "screen adjuster" from the market and set contrast to -60
i have never seen this black low light screen defect. but i am asking you people if any of you have noticed that ugly blurry shadows which are perfectly visible with low light, on white backgrounds especially. they look like marks above the actual display and make high quality images look like low resolution.. it is annoying as hell..
I have this. Noticed it one night when my phone was switched off and charging.
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I also have this, noticed the first evening i used the phone...you can notice this during the screen wake delay, or when in a call if you cover then uncover the proximity sensor...don't know if it's a defect but sure it bugs me, i know many won't notice it and will say they don't have this...i will add that if u look carefully to the screen dimmed at lowest brightness in a low light (buy not dark) environment, like early morning, you'll see some "interferences" behind the image, also the darker/yellower left half screen is still visible in these conditions
These things shouldn't be there in a 500€ phone
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Thanks for the feedback already.
@elmerendeiro: I have also noticed some 'interference' lines on my phone from time to time. I did a bit of research and it seems when your phone's brightness is set around 25 - 30% it picks up interference from either the wifi or 3g radio. Notch the brightness either above or below this level and you wont see it anymore.
I agree with you when you say we shouldn't be having these problems on such an expensive phone.
It bugs me too - if it wasnt for this i'd have to say it would be an amazing phone
Might give the Samsung service center a call and see if its something they're aware of and if they are replacing screens with this problem?
how do I activate the eye sensor? or is it on automaticly? are there any settings about I can change?
Settings>Display>Smart stay.
Seems not to work so well for some. Almost flawless for me. YMMV.
The eye icon will only appear just before the time the screen would normally go off, this is when it looks for eyes and decides if the screen should be kept on.
I think a lot of people expect to see the icon all the time.
I have the "smart stay" enabled but it does not work for me. I have only had it for a day in in door light, so I don't know if that is the problem. I have verified that the front facing camera works by placing a Skype video call. Also, I have brown eyes.
Why do you say that it doesn't work? What the smart stay does is, after an amount of time it sees if you are look to the screen, if you are it keeps the screen on, if you are not it closes the screen.
Mine works and i also have brown eyes.
I have small eyes and it works for me
It works for me 50% of the time. It depends on the angle you hold the phone and the amount of lighting.
I don't know how it worked in the Samsung commercial that was advertising this feature given how dark the room was.
Hi I have been using this phone for a couple of weeks and have just realised that I can see the whatsapp overlay buttons at the bottom of the screen. I can see this especially on grey images, I thought this was something only amoled screens do? My phone does get really hot especially when texting or callling for more then 20 minutes. There also is some light coming through the gap between the body and display on the lower left of my device. Also why is Nokia care so useless? Lovely phone let down by silly little things
How long do you have screen time out set for. If you keep it at one minute this should not happen unless you are using the phone so much the screen is on more than it is off. What I would suggest is taking a picture of something that is light grey to off white. Then viewing that picture full screen. If you still see the overlay then you do have burn in which is very rare with modern LCD's. However if you do not see the issue you describe, then what you are seeing is the overlay not being completely turned off, but actually still active. The app simply makes itself as light as possible so it will not show up.
Screen time out is set on 30 seconds and I have only used this phone for two weeks. You can see the burn in when looking at images within an album, so I do not think its a case of whatsapp becoming faded. Strange. Think I'll have to send this into Nokia care :-/
As this is an IPS panel, it should be impossible. Never heard of that. Can you, please, provide images?
This happens with AMOLED screens.... Lumia 800, 820 and 900...
My Lumia 800 had this "burn in" Nokia repaired it for free....
Benz-Driver said:
As this is an IPS panel, it should be impossible. Never heard of that. Can you, please, provide images?
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no pictures?
Hello everyone,
I'm the Editor-in-Chief of the XDA Portal. I received the Pixel 3 XL in Just Black for review from Google. I also have the Pixel Stand and Pixel USB-C Earbuds.
I posted part 1 of my review here: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-xl-camera-software-design-pixel-stand/
Have posted a ton of little tidbits of information here: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
And my announcement article also has a ton of information: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-specs-features-pricing-availability/
But if you have any other questions, I'm happy to answer them now that the review embargo has been lifted.
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Sorry, I don't have the smaller Pixel 3 on hand, but the two devices are basically the same apart from the different screen sizes/notch.
Is the screen completely flat? For screen protectors. Can you also dock the phone horizontal and still use the features? I think it was careless of the designers, if you could not use the USB C headphones while it charges on the stand(vertical).
killakarl said:
Is the screen completely flat? For screen protectors. Can you also dock the phone horizontal and still use the features? I think it was careless of the designers, if you could not use the USB C headphones while it charges on the stand(vertical).
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It's basically flat. It slightly curves at the edges, but nothing like the Samsung Galaxy series. You can dock the phone in the Pixel Stand horizontally, but the new UI only appears in portrait mode. I agree it's an oversight - all it takes to enable landscape mode in Always on Display is to change a single boolean value in the framework: https://android.googlesource.com/pl.../+/master/core/res/res/values/config.xml#1192
Is the stand worth it? How much time does it take to charge phone completely?
GizmoFreak said:
Is the stand worth it? How much time does it take to charge phone completely?
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The Always on Display integration is really neat but I'm guessing someone will figure out how to trigger it for any Qi wireless charger soon, so I'm not sure if the Pixel Stand will be so unique in the future. It charges the device fully in about 2 hours and 40 minutes, but about 50% in 1 hour.
Is the video as washed out as it looks in the reviews I've see (supersaf and zone of tech)? Something perhaps to do with electronic image stabilization?
Just a few questions my friend.
How's the screen in bright sunlight? My P2XL needs help on that one.
How's the ringer/notification volume and vibration motor? I've missed several calls since I have to have the volume set to full and the vibration on my P2XL is kinda weak.
Do you have any "hollow sound" while tapping the screen like has been reported on the P2XL. I can vouch for this one on my P2XL.
Thank you for your willingness to share your findings :laugh:
Does the Pixel 3 display has a pinkish tint?
Does the back scratch easily?
Does the stand have a nfc card that makes it so something else like trigger some software to make it act like a assistant mode?
I have a few questiona about its camera.
Does it have a full manual mode?
If it has, how many seconds of exposure does it have?
And, again, if it has a manual mode, can it save RAW photos?
How many camera modes does it have?
Does it have a light painting mode?
Does the Manual Camera app work with the wide aperture front camera?
If it does, can it save wide RAW photos?
What's the highest video resolution in Open Camera? (On my One M9 is 4096x2160.)
I hope you have time to answer all of this stuff.
Hello, I'm having Pixel 3 from USA and using it in India. Running latest stock OS. I'm not getting eSim option.
Please guide me for enabling the eSim option.