What a rubbish company to imprint the AndroidOne logo on a device they refuse to update. This is my first ans last Xiaomi!
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What a rubbish company to imprint the AndroidOne logo on a device they refuse to update. This is my first ans last Xiaomi!
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I think "Android one" is a dead project, at least for Xiaomi and continues to prove it in every way
How many of Android One phones from different manufacturers are on Android 10? Motorola One received it yesterday. More recent Motorola phones haven't received it yet. New phones from Nokia will get them in "between Q1 and Q2 2020".
How many monthly security updates got skipped by Xiaomi? I don't remember even one missing.
Just because you misunderstood Android One programme, it doesn't mean it's rubbish or dead. Xiaomi and other manufacturers are following Android One standards and they are roughly at the same position, none of them being much ahead of others.
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How many of Android One phones from different manufacturers are on Android 10? Motorola One received it yesterday. More recent Motorola phones haven't received it yet. New phones from Nokia will get them in "between Q1 and Q2 2020".
How many monthly security updates got skipped by Xiaomi? I don't remember even one missing.
Just because you misunderstood Android One programme, it doesn't mean it's rubbish or dead. Xiaomi and other manufacturers are following Android One standards and they are roughly at the same position, none of them being much ahead of others.
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And how many bugs have been introduced by these monthly updates?
And how many fixes have been released to correct the countless programming flaws of their Rom? Nobody.
It seems that you are not aware of the damage caused to the unfortunate users used as unwitting "beta testers" of Android 10, on the Mi A2 lite and Mi A3 devices.
Not to mention their completely absent and / or unprepared after-sales support
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And how many bugs have been introduced by these monthly updates?
And how many fixes have been released to correct the countless programming flaws of their Rom? Nobody.
It seems that you are not aware of the damage caused to the unfortunate users used as unwitting "beta testers" of Android 10, on the Mi A2 lite and Mi A3 devices.
Not to mention their completely absent and / or unprepared after-sales support
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There are like how many bugs on Android 9. 1 or 2? No new have been introduced, most got fixed.
Android 10 update was rushed mess, I agree with that. But you can blame mainly people like you, pushing on company to release update immediately, even if it's not ready. They shouldn't have listened, that was their mistake number one.
I keep repeating, they need to improve communication and be honest. It there's a delay, announce it. If there are unforeseen problems, fix them and apologize. This is the main area where they need a huge improvement. But it can be said about many other companies, Xiaomi is not the only one. It's no excuse, but there aren't many good examples out there (especially at this price point).
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There are like how many bugs on Android 9. 1 or 2? No new have been introduced, most got fixed.
Android 10 update was rushed mess, I agree with that. But you can blame mainly people like you, pushing on company to release update immediately, even if it's not ready. They shouldn't have listened, that was their mistake number one.
I keep repeating, they need to improve communication and be honest. It there's a delay, announce it. If there are unforeseen problems, fix them and apologize. This is the main area where they need a huge improvement. But it can be said about many other companies, Xiaomi is not the only one. It's no excuse, but there aren't many good examples out there (especially at this price point).
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It may be that as you say, the problems of "Android one" are also common to other companies, but here we talk about Xiaomi and if it is true that it releases monthly security updates with a certain regularity, it is equally true that more than once introduced Bugs, without ever releasing an official Fix and without ever having corrected the main defect of the native WiFi on Android Pie in the Mi A2 lite and now it also appears in the Mi A2 with Android 10.
In addition, no one has forced Xiaomi to release a version upgrade, however, provided by the "Android one" program, without first having carried out the most basic checks with their "Beta testers".
As far as I am concerned, he would have done better first to fix all the defects widely documented in their firmware already in use, instead of combining all this useless mess.
The only fully functional Rom was the native one of Android 8.1, at least on the Mi A2 lite device
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It may be that as you say, the problems of "Android one" are also common to other companies, but here we talk about Xiaomi and if it is true that it releases monthly security updates with a certain regularity, it is equally true that more than once introduced Bugs, without ever releasing an official Fix and without ever having corrected the main defect of the native WiFi on Android Pie in the Mi A2 lite and now it also appears in the Mi A2 with Android 10.
In addition, no one has forced Xiaomi to release a version upgrade, however, provided by the "Android one" program, without first having carried out the most basic checks with their "Beta testers".
As far as I am concerned, he would have done better first to fix all the defects widely documented in their firmware already in use, instead of combining all this useless mess.
The only fully functional Rom was the native one of Android 8.1, at least on the Mi A2 lite device
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Which bugs got introduced with monthly updates and are still present on A3? I don't know about any, but I might have missed them. Except the bug with "ghost text" I have zero problems with stock Android 9.
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Which bugs got introduced with monthly updates and are still present on A3? I don't know about any, but I might have missed them. Except the bug with "ghost text" I have zero problems with stock Android 9.
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Fingerprint and proximity sensor.
The brightness of the display changes by itself, even if it is set manually.
But you've probably been lucky ...
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Fingerprint and proximity sensor.
The brightness of the display changes by itself, even if it is set manually.
But you've probably been lucky ...
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Can't confirm them. Proximity works fine, FP sensor as well. For brightness control I use OLED saver which works perfectly. Maybe I'm really lucky.. [emoji846]
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Can't confirm them. Proximity works fine, FP sensor as well. For brightness control I use OLED saver which works perfectly. Maybe I'm really lucky.. [emoji846]
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I am sure...
Android 10 come in april sure.
bojan1974 said:
Android 10 come in april sure.
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! heard in November
mewcatchew said:
! heard in November
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Which year?i hope 2025.
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it's almost inconceivable to say that it's normal for the update to be delayed and for example other companies
But that's not to say that almost all miui devices have been upgraded.
you are not rooting for so many mistakes on androidone but not on miui.
something smells ugly
Big number of different new device and low number of developers. Working on an embedded system is not easy dude. Why you think most of the new device have the A/B part (mender style)?
Fear of the brick.
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Android 10 come in april sure.
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Still not here.
Related
https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/07/zte-fined-1-billion/amp/
tl;dr: 1 billion dollars from ZTE and they're able to trade with us again.
Slightly longer version:
1) ZTE told not to trade with Iran
2) ZTE caught trading with Iran. ZTE fined and told to punish certain board members
3) ZTE caught not punishing said members, the US stops trade with ZTE
4) ZTE and the US renegotiate and ZTE has to pay the US another billion.
Axon 9 when???
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
aLexzkter said:
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
TPMJB said:
Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
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I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
aLexzkter said:
I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
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Confirmed for not living in California.
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The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Official Android 9 for the Axon 7? Never.
Official 8.1 ? Probably, but who can say when. Could be a week, could be months from now.
MFG now that I was planning to upgrade ?
I don't think they would have the axon 9 these running year .
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Axon 9 when???
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XTE Axon 9 pls when sir??!?
My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
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My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
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AFAIK ZTE claimed that the Axon 7 was very successful. That's why they announced the Axon 9 to begin with.
im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
Not So Fast...
There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
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There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
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Or you can just use the real Oreo version
Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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Or you can just use the real Oreo version
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
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Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
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They ARE beta, but does that make them "fake" Oreo updates? They are real, and they are really good.
The worst complaints I heard were bad battery (In my case that hasn't been apparent) and safetynet not passing, to which there's a fix. Besides that they are probably the best Oreo ROMs out there, with fully working HDR+ (which has been ported since, but still has artifacts on ROMs).
Installing any of those means modding the phone. Not a normal update. I'm still going to wait and see what happens.
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im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
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on a sales/marketing standpoint they'd want to wait, improve and confirm they're still accepted and trusted by consumers before returning to the market with a pricier flagship product
Getting sick of the on off thing with this. Not looking like they will be back. Seems there's people in US politics hell bent on destroying ZTE.
There goes Oreo official, and the Axon 9.
This will push Chinese companies to go with Mediatek more now in the short term and I expect more Chinese SoC development even with companies not focusing on that yet. It will hurt Qualcomm long term IMO. Mediatek may reverse the decision to not do flagship SoCs with a bigger Chinese market that will result from this as they lose confidence in supply.
Expect Samsung to try to push their Exynos to other brands and I wonder if Huawei will sell to others?
The beta sources are a broken mess. The fact that the Devs have been able to do what they have with what they received is nothing short of a miracle.
Hello, since Firmware Finder cannot enforce updates anymore, is there any alternative that does not require root? Honor really sucks at delivering updates, in FF I can see version 8.1.0.143 while I'm still on 131, this was always a pain in the ass for Honor devices but previously I always thought "who cares, I can force it via FF", well now I do care and this will be my last Honor device if I can't get the updates to work.
Thanks for any advice.
I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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I'm sorry but if someone like Apple were to announce an iOS update for a specific day, you would expect it to be available on that day and it most likely would be. Honor told us that the update would be on August 3rd for the EU, yet here I am 3 days later in the UK unable to see 143/145. This would be relatively fine, if they hadn't made several posts on their Twitter accounts saying things like "update now!" and "have you updated yet?", and also made a competition on this very forum with a 10 day deadline, meaning if someone like me wanted to enter they would be 3 days behind anyone else already.
Rikudou_Sennin said:
Hello, since Firmware Finder cannot enforce updates anymore, is there any alternative that does not require root? Honor really sucks at delivering updates, in FF I can see version 8.1.0.143 while I'm still on 131, this was always a pain in the ass for Honor devices but previously I always thought "who cares, I can force it via FF", well now I do care and this will be my last Honor device if I can't get the updates to work.
Thanks for any advice.
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.... Mate you have no clue how firnware finder works. There was is no way to enforce firmware update when the firmware it self is nit certified by google yet. Only by usinv nocheck recovery
Stupid people
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I'm sorry but if someone like Apple were to announce an iOS update for a specific day, you would expect it to be available on that day and it most likely would be. Honor told us that the update would be on August 3rd for the EU, yet here I am 3 days later in the UK unable to see 143/145. This would be relatively fine, if they hadn't made several posts on their Twitter accounts saying things like "update now!" and "have you updated yet?", and also made a competition on this very forum with a 10 day deadline, meaning if someone like me wanted to enter they would be 3 days behind anyone else already.
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Well its not huawei the problem. They released the update but google has to certify it then it will be sent in batches.
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.... Mate you have bo clue how firnware finder works. There was us no way to enforce firmware update when the firmware it self is nit certified by google yet.
Stupid people
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Well its not huawei tge problem. They released tge update but google has yo certify it otherwise you will not receive it. Blame google in this case. Not huawei
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Sorry what? "certified by Google"? If the update has already come out in other regions/countries then surely it's already good to go, and the blame rests on Huawei/Honor for not pushing it to all the relevant regions/devices (which I'm sure they're able to do without doing it in waves, otherwise they wouldn't be telling everyone it's available now...)
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Sorry what? "certified by Google"? If the update has already come out in other regions/countries then surely it's already good to go, and the blame rests on Huawei/Honor for not pushing it to all the relevant regions/devices (which I'm sure they're able to do without doing it in waves, otherwise they wouldn't be telling everyone it's available now...)
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Certification goes by country my friend. Thats the main reason why it goes in waves. If you are so much in rush you can use no check recovery and then you will see its not certified by Google . So yes its Google to blame because huawei have the update ready.
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I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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You know, before I started using Firmware Finder on one of my previous phones, I was a year without an update. So that's what they suck at.
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Certification goes by country my friend. Thats the main reason why it goes in waves. If you are so much in rush you can use no check recovery and then you will see its not certified by Google . So yes its Google to blame because huawei have the update ready.
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Really? It was my understanding that not being "certified by Google" was something that stopped your specific device from being updated, and that each manufacturer organised their own OTA updates (to me it doesn't make much sense for Google to be certifying Huawei, Samsung, etc. updates, as surely those companies have their own teams to test this stuff?).
Even so, I spoke with Honor customer service earlier today and all "Shane" could tell me was to "hold on". He even said he agreed that it's a bit silly for Honor to tell everyone it's available when really it isn't, but that there's nothing else they can do
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Really? It was my understanding that not being "certified by Google" was something that stopped your specific device from being updated, and that each manufacturer organised their own OTA updates (to me it doesn't make much sense for Google to be certifying Huawei, Samsung, etc. updates, as surely those companies have their own teams to test this stuff?).
Even so, I spoke with Honor customer service earlier today and all "Shane" could tell me was to "hold on". He even said he agreed that it's a bit silly for Honor to tell everyone it's available when really it isn't, but that there's nothing else they can do
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Its not about huawei. Its about google security. Having or not their own team to test things doesnt mean they have access to google suite. Certification grants you access to google play, google pay and certain banking apps. If google did not check the updates for certain bugs, hacks etc then the update will stay on hold and as i said from country to country banking systems, telecommunication security systems are different.
Little miss leading social media , yes gpu boost is rolling out in certain regions this is normal practice for honor again it's region based batches at a time , the UK is always the last to get it , honor phones are not like say a OnePlus global device were as soon as a update rolls say in Canada first, you can set a VPN to Canada and download it even though your region hasn't got update yet , that would be nice but honor phones have tons of different region build numbers so unfortunately it's a waiting game for us in UK , I applied for the gpu boost beta and that wasn't being announced till 13th and haven't heard a thing since [emoji848]
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Is there actually an alternative to FF? I just want to download the .zip and cannot update it via the phone.
FF doesnt have the current Firmware "C432E2R1P5" für my Honor 9
€: Nvm. I found it, its the B162. But anyway are there other website who gather Honor/Huawei Firmwares?
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Is there actually an alternative to FF? I just want to download the .zip and cannot update it via the phone.
FF doesnt have the current Firmware "C432E2R1P5" für my Honor 9
€: Nvm. I found it, its the B162. But anyway are there other website who gather Honor/Huawei Firmwares?
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Idk, i hope
Hey folks,
I have noticed that in my poco if you hover you finger too close to your screen(note that i haven't touched the screen) it will capture it as touch. This becomes annoying when you are typing or playing games. I have asked for replacement but the technical guy who came for visit is not ready to accept this issue. And I am blocked now with this faulty poco.
This is because of the extra sensitive touch i guess(like glove mode in iPhone), I have changed the pointer speed, reset the phone but nothing works. This should be resolved by calibration but don't know how.
Please let me know if anyone else is facing this issue or has the solution for same.
Thanks
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Hey folks,
I have noticed that in my poco if you hover you finger too close to your screen(note that i haven't touched the screen) it will capture it as touch. This becomes annoying when you are typing or playing games. I have asked for replacement but the technical guy who came for visit is not ready to accept this issue. And I am blocked now with this faulty poco.
This is because of the extra sensitive touch i guess(like glove mode in iPhone), I have changed the pointer speed, reset the phone but nothing works. This should be resolved by calibration but don't know how.
Please let me know if anyone else is facing this issue or has the solution for same.
Thanks
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I have been writing about this issue since day 1, I somehow got the phone replaced. I showed them the PUBG game issue but they didn't help me, in the end I had to show them that ghost touch issue (which was a software bug and since the device was just launched very few people knew that it's actually a software glitch) so I forced them to take back the device.
I wasted hours on phone to emulate all the problems so that I could get it returned, this is a ****ty device and the company need to be sued for selling faulty products.
Is it something you might be able to get used to? Honestly, I've found this a problem on ALL touch-screen smartphones since forever lol.
Maybe it can be fixed in software in a custom kernel soon. If it bothers me that much when I get my device, I might look into it - it seems the kind of thing that could differ between devices and production runs, so the factory is forced to make a "best average guess" for all devices.
But it could also be a factory calibration thing, which has device-specific values in proprietary files or firmware....
shailendra1993 said:
I wasted hours on phone to emulate all the problems so that I could get it returned, this is a ****ty device and the company need to be sued for selling faulty products.
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Because the touch is "too-sensitive", a purely subjective thing, you think the device is faulty and they should be sued?
So dramatic. Are you new to this place called reality or something?
It's a $500 flagship device, if you came into this expecting 100% premium quality then you're a fool.
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Is it something you might be able to get used to? Honestly, I've found this a problem on ALL touch-screen smartphones since forever lol.
Maybe it can be fixed in software in a custom kernel soon. If it bothers me that much when I get my device, I might look into it - it seems the kind of thing that could differ between devices and production runs, so the factory is forced to make a "best average guess" for all devices.
But it could also be a factory calibration thing, which has device-specific values in proprietary files or firmware....
Because the touch is "too-sensitive", a purely subjective thing, you think the device is faulty and they should be sued?
So dramatic. Are you new to this place called reality or something?
It's a $500 flagship device, if you came into this expecting 100% premium quality then you're a fool.
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Ever heard about Honor 8 Pro? It was launched last year and was called the flagship killer, the issue is not present in there, why?
Ever Heard of any MiA1 or MiA2 device having this problem?
Do you have the device?
If not then try it out, it's not something you can live with.
What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
Not happening on my unit. Any specific steps to reproduce it?
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What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
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So go harass the Manager on Twitter, what can we do about it? Complaining about the device once is fair enough to raise awareness, but every thread I see seems like you are on a mission to destroy this community.
I don't see the relevance of comparing it to other devices. May as well say "Ferrari can make cars that fast, why can't my Prius?"
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Ever heard about Honor 8 Pro? It was launched last year and was called the flagship killer, the issue is not present in there, why?
Ever Heard of any MiA1 or MiA2 device having this problem?
Do you have the device?
If not then try it out, it's not something you can live with.
What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
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you should be known to the fact that many of xiaomi devices comes with bugs at first. Xiaomi fixes almost all bugs after some updates. Most of the current bug's fixes (audio, notification, battery percentage, ok google) are coming soon on next OTA. Some of them, they're investing. from my POV, Xiaomi is doing great with Poco's software side. Jai Mani himself taking care of these
you complain about camera?
- use gcam
you complain about miui?
- wait for AOSP Roms
you complain about the phone?
- get a refund
But don't just flood everywhere. Grab more cash. Get a Oneplus 6. Be happy with it. Have a nice day
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So go harass the Manager on Twitter, what can we do about it? Complaining about the device once is fair enough to raise awareness, but every thread I see seems like you are on a mission to destroy this community.
I don't see the relevance of comparing it to other devices. May as well say "Ferrari can make cars that fast, why can't my Prius?"
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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isnt redmi the low ends of xiaomi ? not surprised if they used lower grade Digitizer , if you are taking about mi series or mi mix ,then something is wrong
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The reason why devices are not updated by Xiaomi is because this is an OEM issue, OEM's will charge money to Xiaomi for fixes, and Redmi is budget crap line which Xiaomi don't want to go bankrupt over. You do know the Xiaomi fame of them having extremely small profit margins, right? If you want to have a 100% perfect digitizer on launch, go and pay twice as much for a device with identical specs.
This is a brand new device from a brand new department. We are the early adopters. Even the Google Pixel devices had major bugs when they first came out. Go get a refund if you're unhappy. And if you can't, then learn the lesson to not be an early adopter for a brand new product line.
The gain on the digitizer is too high (or the threshold is too low), it's a SOFTWARE issue. Simple as that. I don't have the device yet so I can't tell if it's in the kernel driver or the firmware, but it's 100% a software issue because literally all mobile phone digitizers are calibrated in software for the past decade. Anybody who knows anything about Linux/kernel development knows this stuff.
Enough with your non-constructive ramblings, it's not beneficial to the conversation at all. Stop being obnoxious and passive-aggressive with your patronizing questions.
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@OP, I wonder what digitizer hardware you have. Is there a service menu we know about yet? According to the kernel source and config there may be two possible digitizer panels for the Poco (just like how they often have two or three different LCD suppliers for one device).
If I notice an imperfect touch on my device when it arrives, I'm going to dig into the kernel source to see if I can find something - but if people have two different digitizer panels then that will complicate things.
Another thought:
Do you have a tempered glass protector? If not, try it. It could reduce the sensitivity. It may even be *intentional* to allow that.
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The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The reason why devices are not updated by Xiaomi is because this is an OEM issue, OEM's will charge money to Xiaomi for fixes, and Redmi is budget crap line which Xiaomi don't want to go bankrupt over. You do know the Xiaomi fame of them having extremely small profit margins, right? If you want to have a 100% perfect digitizer on launch, go and pay twice as much for a device with identical specs.
Do you have a tempered glass protector? If not, try it. It could reduce the sensitivity. It may even be *intentional* to allow that.
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If you are saying it's a software bug, then I can believe it, I just want someone experienced to tell me if it's a s/w issue or h/w issue, the problem is getting rid of the phone is not easy, no one is buying this, Flipkart is making the issue more complex, the replacement itself took me 2 hours to explain the guy about the problems and I am not sure they will provide the return.
Also, Pixel had the issue fixed as soon as the issue was discovered and other OEM's had to fix the issue too, Google didn't charge money for that, the multitouch issue was fixed in May patch, why do you think it still exists in MIUI?
Zenfone Max Pro M1 is a ****ty device I agree but the device has the same spec as Redmi Note 5 Pro but costs a lot less and they have already fixed the issue, it's also a crappy budget phones and you know what? Zenfone is the worst company and well known for not fixing bugs, but they still did!
Talking about the go buy other crappy phones for more: Nokia 7 Plus and Honor Play are still a better deal only HPlay has a bad camera but Honor has a better support than atleast Xiaomi, their performance is not like Poco but atleast there is no lag, no framedrop, no structural issues, no touch issue or anything. I would be glad to switch only if I get my money, if not atleast someone from Xiaomi guarantee me that they issue will be fixed soon.
I see that you don't have the device till now, I will wait till you get the device and test it. Here is the bug report, see if you can reproduce it once you get your hands on it:
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297&page=2#pid30155106
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Call me idiot or anything you want, I have kept the replacement that I got all packed up and didn't open the package, because I am trying to sell the package in case Flipkart refuses refund. I have to use an old Lenovo Vibe K4 Note instead.
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Wait for an update: I have very few days left to return the device, since Xiaomi is not telling if the bug will be fixed or not one can not say anything about it. Except for the 10 bug fix update MIUI9 is not going to get another update and all the bugs will be tested and fixed once MIUI10 is launched whose launch date is December 2018.
This is not my story, an admin said that all development work on MIUI9 (all versions) has been stopped.
People who installed MIUI10 on their Poco are not telling if the problem is fixed in the beta ROM but Redmi Note 5 Pro users are saying that the bug is still not fixed.
CosmicDan said:
The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The gain on the digitizer is too high (or the threshold is too low), it's a SOFTWARE issue. Simple as that. I don't have the device yet so I can't tell if it's in the kernel driver or the firmware, but it's 100% a software issue because literally all mobile phone digitizers are calibrated in software for the past decade. Anybody who knows anything about Linux/kernel development knows this stuff.
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i. Many people don't seem to have this problem and the reviewers didn't report the problem with the Armoured edition, why? they have the same setup (hardware and software) right? And if the review units do have this problem then how come reviewers didn't say anything?
ii. Let's say they by mistake left a bug, that clearly means no testing was done with this device, they just launched it without checking anything. But what can you expect from a Chinese phone, right? So, why call it a flagship killer killer and why so much hype?
This is a real issue and needs to be fixed and Xiaomi should atleast show some respect by telling this to the customers and you are defending them for no reason. You have enough technical knowledge, do you really think we should have an inaccurate and slow input device just for the sake of a faster processor? because that's most stupid statement of all time. Input device should be as accurate and fast as the processor for full usage. It's like having a 1Gbit internet but a computer that can process only few MB per sec, the throughput will be a lot less and waste of money.
Hello.
Will this problem be fixed? Is it a software or hardware problem?
I will have to sell this phone if it does not fix it.
Thanks.
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Please, likes and leave comments there:
en.miui. com / forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297&page=3
We need to be noticed.
Video demonstration of the problem (playlist. 2 video):
youtube.com / watch?v=C6s2ZqwpkPY&list=PLFpEm6ANmniMdy13bBct5L-OxJrR3RLiY
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I answered your questions, I gave my opinion and shared the facts that I know, and you just ignored them and repeated yourself.
Please just stop spamming and hijacking threads with drama. You keep saying the same things over and over and it's just exhausting; nobody wants to read it anymore.
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@ Everyone with the issue,
Try the Magisk module mentioned in this thread (and read more about it there). It might solve it, might do nothing, might cause bootloop... good luck!
CosmicDan said:
I answered your questions, I gave my opinion and shared the facts that I know, and you just ignored them and repeated yourself.
Please just stop spamming and hijacking threads with drama. You keep saying the same things over and over and it's just exhausting; nobody wants to read it anymore.
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Do you have the phone?
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Do you have the phone?
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Irrelevant to the point I was making.
I told you to stay on topic and get over it. Posts reported for off-topic / spam / harassment, and congratulations for being the first person in my 9 years here to make it onto my Ignore List.
Enough of the back-and-forth here thanks guys... Keep things civil or move along.
There were something like that in a device called infinix zero 2. and it needed a screen protector to solve the issue.
shailendra1993 said:
Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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I believe you're not a retard who keeps trying to get a slice of cheese on a electrified metal plate and keeps getting electricuted but still persist on taking the cheese from it. If you keep having issues with Xiaomi devices then why stay with the brand. Move on and look for other brands instead of staying and keeps whinning.
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I believe you're not a retard who keeps trying to get a slice of cheese on a electrified metal plate and keeps getting electricuted but still persist on taking the cheese from it. If you keep having issues with Xiaomi devices then why stay with the brand. Move on and look for other brands instead of staying and keeps whinning.
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Eh, just ignore it. I did try and report him but that was silly because I'm the one who look like a jerk in this thread haha but it's unfair to expect moderators to dig into the issue of him spamming across the 5+ threads.
So just ignore, and let's try and stay on topic. He will ignore everything you say an just keep repeating the lies of it being a defect on other devices as his main argument.
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
Have we sell the p30 pro?
hunhool said:
The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
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The world does work like this ,it's consumer protection. Nobody forces you to buy a contract / bill item but by law you have cooling off periods and protection when the item isn't as described. We could argue that the item is no longer as described due to losing access to official Android updates and applications
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Worst thing is, if we opt to sell, no one will buy it due to these restrictions. I shave 3 years on this contract... Talk about D's
Huawei unlocks its devices, we install play store services and carry on
So what…. Trump is working on the next big Economic Crisis for the US... Huawei will found a Solution and have his own Appstore
Greetings Raffi
I am concerned about the updates
Finally my p30 pro feels so snappy with 153 that made me excited about Android q and Updates then this comes along
And is it going to effect the other Chinese manufacturers like OnePlus oppo xiaomi or not, these are the only ones left to provide us with the latest best tech without the redeculas 1000$+ that's becoming normal even for LG
Stupid
I am worried about this too, it also makes me think that if this news changes soon something like this could happen in the future because of the issues regarding huawei and America and also the UK where i am stopping Huawei from creating the 5G networks.
I happened to request a return for my P30 Pro within the 14 days period, i got sent the bag to send it back in, and says i have 30 days from when i made that request, i am within them 30 days still, so not i am really wondering if i should just send this phone back and get an S10?
Apparently this happened to ZTE before however they were reinstated again and approved. So time will tells
I think I have made my mind up, I have always been with Samsung, i was really loving OneUI on my s8+ before i got the p30 pro, i only got it as i thought i'd give it a go assuming it can't be that different, i have posted many bugs and annoyances here since getting the p30 pro, some of which i have fixed, some i can't, the EMUI software is really bad and doesn't seem well developed at all.
I think i will get an s10+
I don't care. I believe that Huawei most likely have the capacity to do their own firmware now. They'll do their own firmware and run their own app store. They're big enough now that they'll be able to make it work. Will be nice to have an alternative third ecosystem in the phone world.
I guess it's good bye now to any future security patches. Don't think Huawei's own OS would a viable alternative either. It's new and it will definitely have a lot of issues with third party apps compatibility for example, syncing to wear os devices.
Anyways, it was stated that current phones are not effected by this so i guess the main issue for us now would be upcoming security patches and firmware update.
Reckon the best option would be to sell it off.
Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
sam razzy said:
Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
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It will be like giving your phone admin access to china
Isn't android open source? The AOSP code for any future android OS will always be available. Huawei can always use androids open code into their devices for future security patches.
Google and 5 eyes are already spying on you. How come you don't care about that?
Huwaei phone will not recieve any android specifc code from Google , no more secutity updates , no more Google Play, no more APIs ,,,
Everthing is just blocked by US /Google now ,,
Huwaei journey in androd ends here as they will only have Aosp access which is plain deadland now days as most of the apis have migrated to Google play services
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
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I was all set to buy the p30pr0 but now...
Hey Mate 20 Pro owners - just trying to understand what the Mate 20 Pro owners are planning on at the moment in the wake of Google/android services ban etc.,
I am also a proud owner of Mate 20 Pro for the last six months and I absolutely love this device.
Are you guys trying to selling it off before the value drops too low?
Or, hoping the situation will reverse and fix itself?
I am hoping it will all be okay in the next two months? What do you guys advise?
I'm sticking with it as this Google business isn't a major problem for me
Same here, i'll stay with my mate 20 pro.
i really think it's a great phone, so i see no reason to sell it.
About the problems with Google, we still have 3 months before the ban really starts, so i think it's just a pressure method from Trump to get the trade deal with China.
And even if it's not and they still ban it i will stay with Huawei, i have to say i'm really curious about Hongmeng OS that they'll launch in fall.
I only consider price and value before and at the time of buying. Once I make a decision, the price is no longer a factor for me. I only bought the phone recently because my previous phone was no longer usable. As long as my current gapps remain usable on this phone, I don't necessarily care about future updates that much. I buy a phone based on it's performance at the time of purchase. When I was buying this phone, I wanted a flagship phone for a non-flagship price, I refuse to spend a $1000 for a phone. After considering many, it came down to this phone because it was a flagship phone that had a non-flagship price.
It's bad when a phone loses it's upgrade path, it's always better to have a phone from a brand that's not in the news for all the wrong reasons. However, all the good reasons I bought this phone for to begin with still stand. I'm in the USA, I buy my phones outright and just put them on my basic plan without subsidy because it saves me money in the long run. I wanted a good phone, I got a good phone. I take care of it, I got a case that protects it's front and back, it should last long enough to justify it's investment. With each transaction, be it a car, a house or a phone, you lose money (especially with sales tax) so the solution is to buy smart and minimize the number of transactions as much as possible. I would love to unlock the bootloader and root it, I would love it if Huawei bans are reversed but even if not, what I have is still a great phone to keep for the foreseeable future.
From now on, I'll keep it. It doesn't a matter if we can't upgrade to Android Q. But I must keep using Android Suite, because I'm using it for work. And I'm also using Android Auto.
Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
Jovan.Sulic said:
Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
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can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
Existing Huawei devices will keep access to gapps, even after if and when the ban is permanently enforced. If there is no positive solution for Huawei, their future phones will not be able to access gapps. Sideloading gapps to future devices after the ban is official just won't work without changing the device ID, google servers (play store, gmail, gmaps, etc, etc) will deny access to future identified Huawei phones. For example, Mate 30 Pro will likely launch in November, the current 90 day extension expires in August. If the ban is still in place (I doubt it) at the time the Mate 30 Pro launches, then it will be denied access to gaaps, if it's identified as a Huawei device that was launched after the ban became official.
Personally I think it's just politics and leveraging for a position in the trade war negotiations. Huawei's growth is a concern to others, they surpassed others in the 5G infrastructure tech and the USA and it's allies don't want the traffic to go through tech they don't have control over. The reason they are leaving Xiaomi or 1+ alone is they don't make the infrastructure behind 5G. I think it's not about China spying through Huawei, rather about them not being able to spy through Huawei equipment.
I'm definitely keeping mine for another year, the resell value is so minuscule now that it's not worth upgrading after just a year. This is still a great device and on par with all the newest flagships.
I don't care if EMUI 10/Android Q eventually arrives without any Google services, I'll simply use Gmail through the native EMUI email app and download my apps through Aurora store. Aurora allows you to login with your Google account even without Play services and download paid apps you've purchased. For YouTube I'll use Vanced, it has no ads and no need for Google services.
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can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
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Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
blackspp said:
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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You can do that right now, but I will wait for that new huawei OS and see what will Huawei bring to us
Jovan.Sulic said:
Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
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The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
Installing custom ROMs is impossible on international phones since the bootloader is locked.
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The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
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Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
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Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
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No. Existing phones can continue to use Google play protect and the play store but Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
Huawei will obviously focus their attention on the new os which will replace android so chances on getting much support on our phones is quite low. Which is why the resale value of the phone has collapsed.
https://www.techradar.com/news/huaweis-os-to-be-rolled-out-next-month
Interesting stuff
Lets not forget people have bought the Chinese models which aren't official Android (not supported) and had no issues, the media are just blowing the whole thing up
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Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
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Not what I've been reading or seen on Youtube, security updates will continue and they could release unsupported updates of the OS like in China
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blackspp said:
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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I doubt the camera app will take full advantage of it
They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
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They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
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So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
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So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
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Chinese versions do not have access to Google services as far as I know. Google services are banned by law in China.