Hello.
I had started a thread a while back about "Installing Google Play Services on JPay JP5S tablet" - in the Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum.
Now, all of a sudden, it appears to have been deleted without explanation. Can someone tell me why? Did the thread violate some XDA forum rule? If so, what rule?
I'd appreciate any assistance with this inquiry. I'm new to this forum, but I don't want to repeat any mistakes if I made any.
Abuhuraira007 said:
Hello.
I had started a thread a while back about "Installing Google Play Services on JPay JP5S tablet" - in the Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum.
Now, all of a sudden, it appears to have been deleted without explanation. Can someone tell me why? Did the thread violate some XDA forum rule? If so, what rule?
I'd appreciate any assistance with this inquiry. I'm new to this forum, but I don't want to repeat any mistakes if I made any.
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Hello new fellow ! Welcome to XDA.
First of all, have a look at the rules, it's short and you'll find why your post vanished.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Second of all, most newbies here misplaces post, so:
Questions post belongs to Q'n'A section only.
Also, XDA is a very big forum! So always prefer reading over asking, because if you had an issue someone surely had it before. And reposting the same question make the site more and more slower.
A big mistake newbies make is asking before even searching on Google, XDA isn't the only place in the web to find answers, so please, search deeply before posting.
XDA was once accused (a little less now) of "n00b bashing" because more experimented users had harsh responses to questions they saw everytime. If you read thoroughly before posting, this won't happen.
Also, be respectful, etc...
Everytime someone helps you with a post, please hit the "thank" button. It's the way you say thank you instead of saying thank you on a post (that saturate XDA for nothing).
Finally, when you report a bug, please make a logcat and attach it to your post. That's the most common mistakes that even senior members make sometimes.
Also check out the "XDA New user Guide" (1) and a How to logcat thread (2)
1)https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
2)https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
Thanks for asking that, very few new ones takes time thinking how they can better act here on XDA, showing you will to do better proves that every person with a little bit of common sense know that internet has rules also, and that a forum doesn't organize itself alone.
Thank again
Have a good day
Raiz said:
Hello new fellow ! Welcome to XDA.
First of all, have a look at the rules, it's short and you'll find why your post vanished.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Second of all, most newbies here misplaces post, so:
Questions post belongs to Q'n'A section only.
Also, XDA is a very big forum! So always prefer reading over asking, because if you had an issue someone surely had it before. And reposting the same question make the site more and more slower.
A big mistake newbies make is asking before even searching on Google, XDA isn't the only place in the web to find answers, so please, search deeply before posting.
XDA was once accused (a little less now) of "n00b bashing" because more experimented users had harsh responses to questions they saw everytime. If you read thoroughly before posting, this won't happen.
Also, be respectful, etc...
Everytime someone helps you with a post, please hit the "thank" button. It's the way you say thank you instead of saying thank you on a post (that saturate XDA for nothing).
Finally, when you report a bug, please make a logcat and attach it to your post. That's the most common mistakes that even senior members make sometimes.
Also check out the "XDA New user Guide" (1) and a How to logcat thread (2)
1)https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
2)https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
Thanks for asking that, very few new ones takes time thinking how they can better act here on XDA, showing you will to do better proves that every person with a little bit of common sense know that internet has rules also, and that a forum doesn't organize itself alone.
Thank again
Have a good day
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Thanks, but your reply still does not shed any light on why my thread was deleted.
I may be a noob to this forum, but I am not a noob to forums in general. I had already read the forum rules, and I believed then (and still believe now) that my thread had complied with the rules.
In particular, I had conducted a search prior to posting, but there were (and still are) no threads on the topic. A current search of "JPay JP5S" reveals five hits: two threads (one of which is my old thread) which are deleted, two threads which I do not yet have permission to access (but which deal with different topics anyways), and this thread here. Thus, my thread was not redundant of a previously asked and answered question.
Is the JPay JP5S a taboo or forbidden topic to discuss? If so, an indication to that effect would be nice. If not, I would still like to know why my thread was deleted. Again, I obviously don't want to repeat whatever mistake I might have made with the last one, if I made any.
Abuhuraira007 said:
Thanks, but your reply still does not shed any light on why my thread
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whatever mistake I might have made with the last one, if I made any.
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That's weird indeed...
There aren't any taboos in XDA regarding this device... You could also try to PM moderators to know what's the issue with your thread, but include this time what you said in it, so you can have explanations. I can't tell you since the thread isn't in front of me. Here is the list of mods in XDA:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lK5rP103OL3StU3q9iqwX9LU_k8XABeSQIAT3EHCqgM/pub
They're all nice
Pick one in the "all other forums" section of the document and try to contact him about that.
PM Sent. Discussion on our end regarding our PM conversation. Hold tight :good:
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This guy Billyjblade is a known scammer and is trying to scam people. Can one of the moderators please delete his post and ban his account?
Abuhuraira007 said:
This guy Billyjblade is a known scammer and is trying to scam people. Can one of the moderators please delete his post and ban his account?
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[Using "Report" button] How to Report issues / Moderators assistance by TonyStark
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1718423
Sent from my payton_sprout using XDA Labs
Abuhuraira007 said:
This guy Billyjblade is a known scammer and is trying to scam people. Can one of the moderators please delete his post and ban his account?
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It has been handled. As the RC already mentioned, please do not hesitate using the "Report Button", when you believe that a violation of the forum rules has occurred. Like this we can take care of situations like this way faster.
Thx for your understanding.
Cheers,
mrjuniork (Forum Moderator)
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It has been handled. As the RC already mentioned, please do not hesitate using the "Report Button", when you believe that a violation of the forum rules has occurred. Like this we can take care of situations like this way faster.
Thx for your understanding.
Cheers,
mrjuniork (Forum Moderator)
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Thank you. I'm still new and learning around this forum.
Abuhuraira007 said:
Thank you. I'm still new and learning around this forum.
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You are welcome :highfive:
And don't worry, you will learn your way around the forums, we all had to
Have a good one :good:
Not to revive this dead thread, but if it's okay to discuss the JP5, then why did *every* thread about it disappear? I get that there were a bunch of people trying to sell services, but why not just delete their posts? There was a 50-some page thread that contained invaluable info that simply doesn't seem to exist anywhere now, and even Google Cache and Wayback Machine are basically useless. It sure *looks* like the JPay people "got to" XDA or something.
If anyone can at least provide a link to the needed files to "unlock" these things, that'd be awesome. Or better yet, can we start a new thread without it going poof? (Or best yet, could that old one ever be restored?)
I am also looking for the files to unlock my jp5 tablet. I also have a jp6 tablet I'd like to unlock. Any help would be great. $ is not an issue
Anyluck?
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Cant find the rom thread anymore...
Pls dont say its gone again...
Has it gone walkabout again?! Sheesh..
nitrozk posted last night on the theme section, said his black theme wasgoing to ported to Revolution and "Project Honeycomb" was finished. Relevant? Anyone's guess...
Noticed that Bautista's ROM also has disappeared.
Could please someone clear this up??
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Could please someone clear this up??
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2 members. WTF is going on?!
Guys - can you either PM the dev or a mod about this. We've had plenty of threads about stuff going missing recently and unless you're the dev then it's none of your business. Please, keep it out of the forums.
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Guys - can you either PM the dev or a mod about this. We've had plenty of threads about stuff going missing recently and unless you're the dev then it's none of your business. Please, keep it out of the forums.
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Can U be more clear?
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Can U be more clear?
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Yes.
DO NOT POST ABOUT THIS - IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
PM the developer if you really feel the need.
nitrozk - the dev - cleared the matter up on another thread.
Hope that helps.
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nitrozk - the dev - cleared the matter up on another thread.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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I may have been short with you, but any regular on this forum will already know that there have been lots of "where has xxxx ROM gone?" threads recently, and the mods themselves have told members that it's not their concern and they should not be creating threads about it.
I'm just sick of seeing the same old rubbish, despite mod requests that it stop. I apologise for being short with you, but I expect users of the forum to follow forum rules.
No offense was meant.
Ok. Thanks too. I'll try another ROM.
But I think the users who follow the threads are deleted deserve some explanations.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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I may have been short with you, but any regular on this forum will already know that there have been lots of "where has xxxx ROM gone?" threads recently, and the mods themselves have told members that it's not their concern and they should not be creating threads about it.
I'm just sick of seeing the same old rubbish, despite mod requests that it stop. I apologise for being short with you, but I expect users of the forum to follow forum rules.
No offense was meant.
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Fair comments John.
As I discovered - the hard way - a polite question will always get one further than a rant, whine or trolling.
I also try to follow the caveat that any dev or themer can do whatever they like with their work - they owe us nothing.
lfcorullon said:
Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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Press thanks then, haven't had one for a while - I'm insecure and paranoid...
OT and serious - I see your point, but as you can probably infer from my post above, I disagree when you say we "have the right to receive an explanation".
We don't, in my opinion. An explanation is good, and furthers goodwill, but it's not something the "average user" here can demand.
The most popular themes and ROMs here are popular for a reason - updates, information, no trolling etc. The devs/themers that don't do the above - as is their right - will find less interest in their work. Whether they care or not is entirely up to them.
Ok I agree with you.
But I still think that if you are a regular user (like me) and subscribe to a thread, and suddenly, that topic desappears, you will want some explanation. I searched and only found this thread (which was not created by me).
But anyway, thank you! I've found another ROM and I'll test it.
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Ok I agree with you.
But I still think that if you are a regular user (like me) and subscribe to a thread, and suddenly, that topic desappears, you will want some explanation. I searched and only found this thread (which was not created by me).
But anyway, thank you! I've found another ROM and I'll test it.
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Want - of course
Have the right - not for me.
We all move on
As was announced last week, Operation:Iron Fist is in full effect. Read about it here.
With that being said, the following will begin to happen:
1. All non-development threads started in the Development section will be moved to the appropriate section and/or closed and the "responsible" poster (in quotes because the fact they posted in the wrong section clearly brings into question whether or not they are responsible) will be infracted.
2. Any abusive posts directed at any user will be deleted and the abuser will be infracted and/or given a temporary vacation. Multiple instances will result in a longer leave-of-absence, and if it continues you will be removed from XDA. You, and your behavior, are not welcome at XDA.
3. Any off-topic posts in the Development section threads will be deleted. These are non-helpful, and certainly not development posts. This includes the following:
"OMG THIS IS SO GREAT!"
"WOW! YOU ROCK AND I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES!"
"THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER!"
"THANKS FOR THIS!"
If you want to thank someone for their work, do so by clicking the "THANKS" button on their post.
4. Any post, in any section, that is done to further post count will be deleted and you will face possible infraction.
5. Anything else that goes against the XDA Forum Rules and XDA Mantra will be dealt with firmly, but fairly.
masterfred said:
Omg this is so great!
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This is a perfect example of the type of boneheaded comment that does nothing but clutter the thread. LET THIS BE A LESSON TO YOU ALL!
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I think someone just got the "Iron Fist"
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Why thank you evil amphibian. But slightly off-topic........ You can hit thanks instead.
Chezbel said:
How about posts that say "#199 is up"? I'm pretty sure people that are seriously involved in a dev thread know how to monitor nightly builds...
Sent from my abucus
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Another great example. Something that shouldn't need to be posted, especially since the OP should have posted a link to where to monitor new releases. Unless you're trying to count with the abacus - then that makes sense. People might want to know how high you can count.
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Omg thank you i wanna have your baby
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Hmm - going to decline - but I can think of a few other users who might oblige you.
blader3759 said:
Oh settle down cry baby!
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This is a perfect example of a post that would get you an infraction in any thread. XDA will not tolerate this behavior. Now knowing that this user that has been with XDA for 3 years is only seeking to provide an example of what NOT to do, it may be duly noted that this would earn a nice 5 point infraction or even a nice vacation from XDA.
I think someone just got the "Iron Fist"
This thread isn't a Development thread, it should be moved to General.
Nah, seriously now - this was needed a long time ago! Hopefully it's kept to.
This is not a complaint, but asking for clarification. i would like to ask a few questions..I read your iron fist policy and this post is not in any violation.
I read the comments on roms to see if I would like to download a rom. And if I see a positive comment then I might consider downloading it. If i get the policy of iron fist correctly, a post such as
Thanks, smooth and fast. Keep up good work.
The above little post is grounds for disiplinary actions? It tells me somebody else thought it was favored, smooth and quick. A thank you does not tell tell us the reader, how in the heck a rom operates. I will then go into a thread, and see only stuff that does not work, since any positive feedback does not represent development issues but bug posting represents development issues. How in the heck do we then tell the developer our views without getting in trouble. I understand the main issue of cracking down on trolls and flames, but in all honesty, iron fist should be called iron wall becuase we now have censorship on on a so called open forum. If i where to say to xyz developer anything positive to give him kudos and some words of encouragement which is just as valuable as anything else, we are not allowed. Since being positive and giving support to a developer does not matter in a personal and friendly way, when only a thank you button. These developers need positive feedback also..
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This is not a complaint, but asking for clarification. i would like to ask a few questions..I read your iron fist policy and this post is not in any violation.
I read the comments on roms to see if I would like to download a rom. And if I see a positive comment then I might consider downloading it. If i get the policy of iron fist correctly, a post such as
Thanks, smooth and fast. Keep up good work.
The above little post is grounds for disiplinary actions? It tells me somebody else thought it was favored, smooth and quick. A thank you does not tell tell us the reader, how in the heck a rom operates. I will then go into a thread, and see only stuff that does not work, since any positive feedback does not represent development issues but bug posting represents development issues. How in the heck do we then tell the developer our views without getting in trouble. I understand the main issue of cracking down on trolls and flames, but in all honesty, iron fist should be called iron wall becuase we now have censorship on on a so called open forum. If i where to say to xyz developer anything positive to give him kudos and some words of encouragement which is just as valuable as anything else, we are not allowed. Since being positive and giving support to a developer does not matter in a personal and friendly way, when only a thank you button. These developers need positive feedback also..
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This is not an open forum. Trying to keep the development threads clear of pointless posts is not censorship. Post in general if you want to post "OMG.....I want to marry you". The devs themselves are the ones who want the development threads kept cleaned up. They don't want to sift through 10 pages of posts telling them what a god they are to find the 1 post post that tells them that "X" doesnt seem to work when doing "Y". Most of the ASUS devs are on Freenode IRC (#asus-transformer) everyday. Jump on and tell them in person as long as they aren't actually helping someone. Most say "Thanks" and tell you to hit the "Thanks" on their thread. They don't say "Please post another 'I wanna have your baby' post in my thread"
When a thread reaches 1000 posts and 900 of them are "Thanks to you I can solve world hunger now", no dev is gonna wanna waste his time trying to find the bugs people find. The devs time is better used deving and not digging.
This is xdadevelopers not xdacustomerservice or xdaiwannahaveyourbaby. The developers run the show and make our devices so much more fun to use. So let them dev
Both sides have a valid point. There must be a way to satisfy both needs. Perhaps the design of the "general forum" needs to be updated to adapt to the changing needs of the online community. Remember, both sides have the same goal.
Putzy said:
This thread isn't a Development thread, it should be moved to General.
Nah, seriously now - this was needed a long time ago! Hopefully it's kept to.
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You are correct - it was my mistake, as I replied to the wrong post.
See, the moderators are not above admitting our mistakes - you just don't see it very often!
life64x said:
This is not a complaint, but asking for clarification. i would like to ask a few questions..I read your iron fist policy and this post is not in any violation.
I read the comments on roms to see if I would like to download a rom. And if I see a positive comment then I might consider downloading it. If i get the policy of iron fist correctly, a post such as
Thanks, smooth and fast. Keep up good work.
The above little post is grounds for disiplinary actions? It tells me somebody else thought it was favored, smooth and quick. A thank you does not tell tell us the reader, how in the heck a rom operates. I will then go into a thread, and see only stuff that does not work, since any positive feedback does not represent development issues but bug posting represents development issues. How in the heck do we then tell the developer our views without getting in trouble. I understand the main issue of cracking down on trolls and flames, but in all honesty, iron fist should be called iron wall becuase we now have censorship on on a so called open forum. If i where to say to xyz developer anything positive to give him kudos and some words of encouragement which is just as valuable as anything else, we are not allowed. Since being positive and giving support to a developer does not matter in a personal and friendly way, when only a thank you button. These developers need positive feedback also..
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Here's where you miss the point. See below to clear this up:
zelendel said:
XDA is a developers site
XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only
XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".
XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.
XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.
XDA is not your friends house
XDA is not a democracy
XDA is not a place to make Money.
XDA IS a place to come to learn and share your knowledge. If you are not here for those reasons then you are here for the wrong ones.
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Brush up on the XDA Mantra and understand what XDA is about.
In the Development threads, post only what is relevant to development - and "HEY! I flashed XYZ and it works great! You're the best!" is NOT relevant for discussion. End of story.
Hitting THANKS "should" be an indicator to someone that the development project in question is like. But, even so - this isn't really for the users. The developers post their work to share, but do so for themselves not you. Anything you do is at your own risk.
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Both sides have a valid point. There must be a way to satisfy both needs. Perhaps the design of the "general forum" needs to be updated to adapt to the changing needs of the online community. Remember, both sides have the same goal.
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XDA is about developers (READ: XDA-DEVELOPERS) not users. We exist to facilitate development - not support. So the rules in place are for Development.
Read the XDA Mantra and this post above
you can see how many users pressed thanks, so if a post has 50 thanks that's way better than sifting through 50 OMGs
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You make your point...I had to ask, a part of me was dying to know..
life64x said:
You make your point...I had to ask, a part of me was dying to know..
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And thank you for asking. Now you no longer need to be dying.
Thank you for this. Will this also apply to people who ask the same questions that have already been answered in the thread?
Possibly the most annoying thing is perusing through pages of threads to see the same question asked and repeatedly answered. The one that comes to mind currently is the screen dim on the options window and the circle pointer. It seems like those questions get asked and answered on nearly every page of the Prime 1.7 thread.
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Thank you for this. Will this also apply to people who ask the same questions that have already been answered in the thread?
Possibly the most annoying thing is perusing through pages of threads to see the same question asked and repeatedly answered. The one that comes to mind currently is the screen dim on the options window and the circle pointer. It seems like those questions get asked and answered on nearly every page of the Prime 1.7 thread.
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This does apply - though it is harder to enforce meaning the community needs to assist the moderators in addressing these issues. You can report these posts and we can address them as they come in. We are also working on fixing our RP system.
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We are also working on fixing our RP system.
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Making it easier to report posts, you mean? That would definitely be a good improvement; I went to report a post using abusive language a few days back, and ended up not doing because I didn't have time at that moment to jump through hoops with finding out who to contact, then typing a message to them. I doubt I'm alone in skipping doing so.
If reporting a post was as easy as leaving thanks, I bet a lot more folks would be helping the mods. In fact, a two-click system might be nice. Slightly more complicated than the thanks button, but it would also help the mods prioritize which reports to check. The site visitor could click report, then click the type of issue they're reporting (abusive language, off-topic, post in wrong section, requesting warez, whatever). Then the mod's queue of posts to check sorts the most severe infractions (asking for warez, foul language, etc.) above lesser ones (off-topic, posting in wrong section, etc.)
Something else that might be helpful to mods would be for the system to automatically track how many reports any given member has made, and what percentage have been incorrectly reported. Members with a lot of false positives could sort to the bottom of the mod's queue, and members who reliably report bad posts could filter to the top for prompt action... Something like that might also be helpful when XDA was looking for new mods to help with the site -- the folks who did the most positive reporting might prove to be good candidates for new moderators.
It may be a stupid idea - but could you give thread creators moderation privileges in their own threads, even if it is only in development?
Putzy said:
It may be a stupid idea - but could you give thread creators moderation privileges in their own threads, even if it is only in development?
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Not something that can happen. Recognized Developers can open/close their own threads - but moderation pieces of deleting posts, etc. just can't happen. But thanks for the thought and idea.
How about the developer create a thread in Development section and called it "ABC - Bug Report" and another thread in General called "ABC - Discussion".
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How about the developer create a thread in Development section and called it "ABC - Bug Report" and another thread in General called "ABC - Discussion".
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The way to handle this, and what I am working on implementing but takes awhile, is to have the Developer post a thread in Q&A for that dev work and then all bugs, etc. are in the actual development thread.
I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
What question do you have. Also if you read, the development forum is only for development, not asking questions.
You have no idea how many new members go in and ask questions that have been asked millions of times before or in the sticky that has BIG BOLD LETTERS ON THE TOP SAYING READ ME. And also 90% sure this thread will be locked anyways since it has nothing to do with the phones.
Oh to answer your question.
Since its an App, you're not going to find help on the black text because thats just the way the app is coded. Go complain to the developer of the app and not the ROM.
And by recovery console do you mean cwm? If so, have fun.
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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Sorry, that's a rough intro. I hope you won't be turned off by XDA as a whole. I try to keep things positive and look forward to seeing you around these boards.
EDIT, as to your questions, briefly in case this thread gets closed:
1) No easy way to change font/color behavior in a single app. As a workaround, you can hold finger over a list entry/item and read the text sometimes while it is highlighted. Some apps have theme settings for dark/light themes for exactly this situation.
2) I know modifying recovery is possible (Siyah kernel for instance) but have never seen one with larger fonts. At any rate, it's not a setting that can be changed on the fly.
I think they mean for questions like "how do i flash a rom" , "how do i return to stock" , general non rom specific questions. Any specific rom questions need to go in that dev's thread. As far as needing ten posts, find some threads that interest you in the general or q & a and comment on them.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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+ 1 its not hard at all to get 10 posts. Just look for a thread where you can comment.
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I'm pretty sure none of us are... But this is the rule for XDA that was set forth... 10 post is not a lot, especially comparing to some of the other sites that I seen out there. As of now you have 7 posts. Only 3 more posts and you should be good to go.
Keep it in mind the moderators/administrators here work hard to keep this forums nice and clean. So, new users can find things easier.
As some of the earlier posts and responses, they should already tell you what you can and cannot do.
As penguinlogik said, I would stay away from CWM. Or you will definately have a field day with it, that is from my experience.
Wait was that in the Q&A section that it was asked?
Anyways to answer your question;
The app was made for an unthemed version of the rom. When we theme stuff in the framework often times it directly effects some apps. Apps that are using framework colors anyways.
The only way to fix the app is to mod the app yourself or use a unthemed rom.
Theming is a tough job as it cant usually be done without effecting something else (app) unfortunately.
Hope that helps...
Thank you shoman, that was the first useful reply to my original question.
Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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Well said.
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axis01 said:
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question or ignore it. Especially when its in the q&a.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question....
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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But all this *****ing is just as useless.
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That dude was not nice... I had the same problem when started into xda, search results had no answer for my specific dilemma, and I had to make 10 posts before being able to get a real answer for my initial question. But it helped me out, cause now I use search all the time when I got questions and haven't had anyone scold me over my posts, but all that aside this is a very useful forum. Enjoy XDA!
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
Then I suggest you read the sticky thread and look at the FAQ and look in the Iscrewed thread for your answers. Just because you cant post to ask your probably already answered question, dosent mean you get to start a new thread about it.
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I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
I have downloaded and tested many custom ROM's for the desire and the SGS2.
My recent favorite ROM is resurrection remix which i have been using various builds of since xmas. And only now do I have a question that no one has asked and I cant find an answer to.
Of course since I have never needed to post before when I tried to ask my question it wont let me because i have not made 10 useful comments. The only place I find useful comments is on the development forums. There is nothing specifically that I need from the other ares of the site and so I cannot offer any feedback that would be helpful to others there... the only place I can make useful comments is on the development forums, which is exactly where Im not allowed to make them.
So how does one get around that?
Luke
Probably not, but you can try contacting a moderator, the rule is there to avoid people joining and spamming the dev section with crap, if that isnt your plan they may be able to help you out.
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Ok thanks!
I will do that
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Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
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So how does one get around that?
Luke
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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I'm in the same boat bud. Hopefully we will get one day to ask questions in the normal thread. Can't wait.
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Personally and apart from the spam issue the ten post thread in dev section is far to low a number one only has to read the inane posts from users with more than ten posts in many dev threads .
But how do you overcome the problem of a large amount of idiots posting who cannot be bothered to read the rules read the faqs or instructions and repetitively ask the same questions .it reflects badly on those who like the OP have taken time to read and learn as they are treated the same .
jje
That rule also stopped me in my tracks. But I can see the point on the development forums.
After the "no you can't" it encouraged me to look harder for answers and ask the (dum) questions on the general forum.
I realize the point is to avoid opening new threads for questions that might be better served in the appropriate development thread, but if you've searched and haven't found your answer I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to post one in Q&A or General, but make sure you exhausted all search options before you do.
Same for me...To be honest I wanted to answer questions and help members, not to ask myself but... I see the point of the rule, there are too many people that will ask (dum) Q without even bothering to use the search tool and filling the threads with crap when there is no need to...
Solution:
make thread about it.
Answer all who replys
Profit
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Also have same problem, I just posted a question here that I feel would be better suited to go in the Dev thread of the ROM I use.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users (if you look in there I'm sure I'm guilty too) in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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This is true too, when I started I felt handcuffed by the 10 post limit, but I spent a little time reading posts and using the knowledge I gained to help out others and my post (and thanks) count quickly increased well beyond the limit. Helping others also gave me more understanding to be able to troubleshoot my own problems.
Yep that's exactly right Thracemerin, a perfect example.
I dread getting home from work & having to scroll thru 18 hrs worth/sometimes up to 40 pages of posts in the CM9 discussion thread & 90% of them are utter crap.
You're right, if it were in the dev thread, I think Codeworkx, Xplodwild et al would have given up ages ago.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
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Apologies I stand corrected, I thought it would be ROM related as the only info I could find through search was about adding poweron.ogg to system/etc and making sure permissions are set correctly and this is not working for me.
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Very simple 99% of posts just need a reply read the f4444 instructions first .
jje
In the stickies on this forum is help for rebooting prooblems and so you think you've bricked your phone. Yet there constantly appears postings about phone rebooting and Please Help I've Bricked My Phone, and by far most of these it is the poster's first posting.
Maybe the rule should be that you cannot start a new thread, in any forum, until you have 10 posts. Every forum has a FAQ thread that they can post on if they have searched on here and can't find anything.
Yah so after using the JellyBlast v3.04 for a month, i thought it was perfect until i got into a problem last night. Ace(i) kept freezing. I had to restart several times:crying:, so when i restarted it the 4th time, it boots only in recovery mode now.
I have flashed Stock Firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611225)
Which i succeded in but the phone hasnt still been able to boot.
Please look to it.
P.S. In recovery mode, i tried clicking on the option reboot system now but then it just freezes on the last part, i.e.
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Multi_CSC : there are common apks
multicsc : src/system/csc/INS/system/ .
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Yah so after using the JellyBlast v3.04 for a month, i thought it was perfect until i got into a problem last night. Ace(i) kept freezing. I had to restart several times:crying:, so when i restarted it the 4th time, it boots only in recovery mode now.
I have flashed Stock Firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611225)
Which i succeded in but the phone hasnt still been able to boot.
Please look to it.
P.S. In recovery mode, i tried clicking on the option reboot system now but then it just freezes on the last part, i.e.
---Appling Multi-CSC-----
Multi_CSC : there are common apks
multicsc : src/system/csc/INS/system/ .
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Are you a noob?
If yes
Then be a newbies first and then register at XDA Forum
Now, I assume you are back and now you are not a noob and understand the XDA rules that SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
And you won't even had to search
You could JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE
There is a thread called
POST YOUR QUESTIONS HERE
No one should help you unless you post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
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No one should help you unless you post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
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You are fast
You just posted it directly before I wanted to post it
I Can't Help You . . . I'm a Horse
Thanks to all the supporting members of XDA
You really care about XDA
Those who are criticising you are surely noobs
High 5 to you and pacepalm to noobs.
First, due to respect, I called them newbies as I thought I was also like them first.
But I was wrong
If they are only newbies at first
Then I was a pro from birth
I doubt I have posted any question.
I only remember posting a question which was related to the problem coming during recompiling Systemui.apk and that too I solved on my own.
I feel very bad for them.
A way to tell you it without using words...
Sorry [ Youtube ] [ /Youtube ] doesn't work for a reason :/
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A way to tell you it without using words...
Sorry [ Youtube ] [ /Youtube ] doesn't work for a reason :/
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Dude . . . This so f**kin' true
Yah, i get it, and FYI i am not a noob.
I had glazed my eyes upon the thread of questions.
But i thought my topic would gather much attention. Seems that it took a wrong way.
Sorry:crying::crying:
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Yah, i get it, and FYI i am not a noob.
I had glazed my eyes upon the thread of questions.
But i thought my topic would gather much attention. Seems that it took a wrong way.
Sorry:crying::crying:
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Good that you realized
Next time
Follow the rules and redirect all questions you see to the right thread.
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Thanks to all the supporting members of XDA
You really care about XDA
Those who are criticising you are surely noobs
High 5 to you and pacepalm to noobs.
First, due to respect, I called them newbies as I thought I was also like them first.
But I was wrong
If they are only newbies at first
Then I was a pro from birth
I doubt I have posted any question.
I only remember posting a question which was related to the problem coming during recompiling Systemui.apk and that too I solved on my own.
I feel very bad for them.
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I'm sorry but I believe this is all a load of crap, yes I support your idea of keeping the forum clean and that users should search before posting, however if they do search and cannot find any answers they have a right to post here in the general forum
I believe posting everything in one thread is dumb and inefficient let's say everyone does post in your thread there will be about a thousand questions and nobody will be able to cope and so it will flood with questions and very little answers, Threads are a lot easier to answer and to help people when they're spread out and left how they are as users can easily see what the problem is and answer the individuals question easily, compared to searching through your thread which makes you read question after question to the supposed answer to your question you may of asked the day before only to find it isn't a solution to your problem but yet another question posted by a fellow user...
again may i say i support the idea of asking people to search and it is your right to not answer them but simply refusing until they post in your thread is dumb, There's nothing wrong with the current system and the forum can be improved if we simply ask politely that thwy search more often and even direct them to the older threads with links, that's what this community is for, helping fellow developers
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I'm sorry but I believe this is all a load of crap, yes I support your idea of keeping the forum clean and that users should search before posting, however if they do search and cannot find any answers they have a right to post here in the general forum
I believe posting everything in one thread is dumb and inefficient let's say everyone does post in your thread there will be about a thousand questions and nobody will be able to cope and so it will flood with questions and very little answers, Threads are a lot easier to answer and to help people when they're spread out and left how they are as users can easily see what the problem is and answer the individuals question easily, compared to searching through your thread which makes you read question after question to the supposed answer to your question you may of asked the day before only to find it isn't a solution to your problem but yet another question posted by a fellow user...
again may i say i support the idea of asking people to search and it is your right to not answer them but simply refusing until they post in your thread is dumb, There's nothing wrong with the current system and the forum can be improved if we simply ask politely that thwy search more often and even direct them to the older threads with links, that's what this community is for, helping fellow developers
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You are new here and don't understand WE DON'T HAVE A Q&A SECTION
And if you don't know how it feels to see same noob questions filling the General section and then the Guides pushing back and then again noobs asking for it
First, you are the only person right now saying IT IS WRONG TO KEEP GENERAL SECTION CLEAN?
I have said that if nobody
Then I will help every one who questions in my thread
Also it won't matter if questions are repeated there.
You understand?
Here it is against the rules to post a guide or update in development section.
And these things are more important than the noob questions.
You are talking about right of noobs.
You should know rules come before the rights.
If they don't search before posting, they don't deserve this right.
And the next thing, even if they do, if they can't find answers, I WILL ANSWER THEM IF NOBODY DOES.
That's my promise.
I don't know why you support them.
I never saw such noob posting such a question
"Error in smali decompiling"
".xml scatter "
The answer they seek are not necessarily be answered by S5830i General Section
They can be found anywhere on internet.
The questions they post about ROMs and kernel are answered numerous times
They don't have 10 posts and try to be good at it.
Brick the device by their foolishness(It is not easy to Brick a device, and even if you do there are several guides to restore it), and then flood the General section.
I didn't ever want to say that about them but it is true.
So, I never used cuss words about them but you know.
It is kind of spamming they do.
If genuine questions are also posted there.
Then what is the problem.
It is clean.
Believe me it's healthier for noobs
If nobody helps them in General section
Then they will Atleast read which they don't do and that is the problem.
Long Live XDA
Long live General Section(which it won't do if tsunami continues)
Regards
I say again I am not against cleaning up the forum -.-
I just believe your idea is ineffecient
I propose instead that we create a partition and pass it onto a senior mod asking for a new forum section.
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Xx James xX said:
I say again I am not against cleaning up the forum -.-
I just believe your idea is ineffecient
I propose instead that we create a partition and pass it onto a senior mod asking for a new forum section.
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I already tried that
But I think its not possible