Who's already thinking about upgrading their phone, according to the current informations we have about the future Note? And which phone do you want to replace it with?
I'll start: I'm a big fan of the Note series since the first one (I don't use the Spen that much, but I find the overall design and specs to be quite nice, I prefer it over the S series). I usually skip one iteration because I find on one year they add features, and the next year they fix some of the previous year's mistakes. I even had the Note7... not for long So now, even it it still rocks, I'm thinking about replacing my Note9 with a Note20, for the cameras, the display, and all that stuff. Yes I'm totally into the consumer's profile, paying the full bill for a "minor" upgrade, but I enjoy it
What about you guys?
I'm hyped!
Note 10+ here, but I got the upgrade plan or whatever through Samsung with every intention of getting this year's model.
My biggest excitement? 120Hz screen and the new colors. Improved camera as well. I'm hopeful the battery life will remain similar despite the increase in refresh rate.
I'm actually trying to find out reasons to NOT get the Note 20 Ultra and I'm not finding many so far which is a good thing.
that camera bump is MASSIVE.
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that camera bump is MASSIVE.
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Big bump, but the array looks way better than the S20 Ultra.
Oh Im getting it for sure, the new copper color.
Will be keeping my note 10 plus though and still even use my copper note 9 once in awhile lol.
On an S8 and have been putting off a new phone because every time I get hyped I read about what the NEXT one is going to have, most recently skipped the S20 because the 120hz doesn't work on the highest resolution, but I think the Note 20 Ultra will finally be what I drop money on. As long as I don't hear rumors of the S21 folding my laundry...
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I really want to get this phone. But I gotta say I'm a little disappointed with the news being reported today that Samsung is sticking with the Exynos 990 (note the rumored Exynos 992) again for international models, while the US, Japan, China, etc get the Snapdragon 865+. There was already about a 20% difference in power between the Exynos 990 and the regular Snapdragon 865 with the S20 models, now that gap will likely be larger.
Don't get me wrong, I think I will still get the Note 20 Ultra as I'm a huge fan of the Note series and I don't think I can wait another year to upgrade from my Note 8. I just wish I wasn't going to get an inferior processor for the same high price as others are paying for the Snapdragon variant.
I'd be interested to hear what others here think about this.
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I really want to get this phone. But I gotta say I'm a little disappointed with the news being reported today that Samsung is sticking with the Exynos 990 (note the rumored Exynos 992) again for international models, while the US, Japan, China, etc get the Snapdragon 865+. There was already about a 20% difference in power between the Exynos 990 and the regular Snapdragon 865 with the S20 models, now that gap will likely be larger.
Don't get me wrong, I think I will still get the Note 20 Ultra as I'm a huge fan of the Note series and I don't think I can wait another year to upgrade from my Note 8. I just wish I wasn't going to get an inferior processor for the same high price as others are paying for the Snapdragon variant.
I'd be interested to hear what others here think about this.
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The rumor also suggests a thin possibility of a "SD865+ in all markets".
If 990 continues, it will definitely be NOT my Note lol.
force70 said:
Oh Im getting it for sure, the new copper color.
Will be keeping my note 10 plus though and still even use my copper note 9 once in awhile lol.
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I love the copper and also the alleged green color (the rendering). Seems like a lot of options for colors in the rumors... It'll be interesting.
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that camera bump is MASSIVE.
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Likely to keep happening as people push for better cameras.
I use a case, so it won't bother me much at all.
I also hope there will be some sort of pre-purchase offer, for example a refund if you send your old device back maybe, like they did for the Note9.
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I also hope there will be some sort of pre-purchase offer, for example a refund if you send your old device back maybe, like they did for the Note9.
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I hope so too! Have been away from Samsung for a while, I think this will be my first entry back into the ecosystem.
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I'm actually trying to find out reasons to NOT get the Note 20 Ultra and I'm not finding many so far which is a good thing.
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the ONLY reason whoould be that Samsung will again charge us the same money for Exynos chipset eventhough South Korea, China, US and Canada will get Snapdragon 865+ which would be with 30% more powerful and more power efficient.
This means approx. 3hrs SoT more for the Snapdragon 865+ ..
And Samsung it makes it even more difficult if we will buy Snapdragon 865+ note 20 Ultra from US or somewhere else, because in EU they are not supporting warranty for the Snapdragon devices..and they neither do service where customer pays money because they don;t have the spare parts..which is awful..
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the ONLY reason whoould be that Samsung will again charge us the same money for Exynos chipset eventhough South Korea, China, US and Canada will get Snapdragon 865+ which would be with 30% more powerful and more power efficient.
This means approx. 3hrs SoT more for the Snapdragon 865+ ..
And Samsung it makes it even more difficult if we will buy Snapdragon 865+ note 20 Ultra from US or somewhere else, because in EU they are not supporting warranty for the Snapdragon devices..and they neither do service where customer pays money because they don;t have the spare parts..which is awful..
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I feel the same. But I'm also quite conflicted on this for another reason.
Snapdragon phones are locked down, usually they can’t be rooted, and users can’t flash custom recoveries/ROMs.
There are of course exceptions to this but the Exynos variants are definitely better for development purposes.
Now for the first 2 years that probably won't bother me as the stock software would be fine. But once Samsung no longer provides OS updates it's really nice to be able to run custom ROMs.
If only we could get an Exynos device with comparable performance to Snapdragon.
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I feel the same. But I'm also quite conflicted on this for another reason.
Snapdragon phones are locked down, usually they can’t be rooted, and users can’t flash custom recoveries/ROMs.
There are of course exceptions to this but the Exynos variants are definitely better for development purposes.
Now for the first 2 years that probably won't bother me as the stock software would be fine. But once Samsung no longer provides OS updates it's really nice to be able to run custom ROMs.
If only we could get an Exynos device with comparable performance to Snapdragon.
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Exynos 992 on 6nm or 5nm with arm x78 architecture is the best soution as of now for Note 20 Utra
If Samsung does a really strong trade in offer (I have a Note 9) to get the price reasonable, and ideally a throw in offer like the new ear buds, I'm in. Multiple Note owner (had the Note 4, 7 and 9) and really looking forward to a camera with a real zoom and better battery life. Looks like a winner!
Note 20 Ultra Colors
Does anyone have a link or list of what the Note 20 Ultra colors will actually be? Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone have a link or list of what the Note 20 Ultra colors will actually be? Thanks in advance.
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I read somewhere the 3 colors for the Ultra will be that new copper color, then black and white.
One with Exynos 990 & the other one with SD865+, Samsung will STILL find them to be equally performing..
And a lot will believe it too.
I went from a Note 10+ to a Oppo Find X2 Pro instead of waiting for the Note 20 series, simply for the fact that every leak was pointing to European users being stuck with a Exynos 990 & I don't regret my decision at all, Samsung themselves are so blind they that continue to argue that the Exynos 990 is on the same level as the Snapdragon 865/+, it's ridiculous and from a consumer point of view, unacceptable, we're paying the same premium price but for a worse equipped device.
Many argue that it's only noticeable in benchmarks or on paper etc. But it isn't, it affects camera performance, camera quality, gaming performance, thermal performance, app fluidity, all the important parts of a smartphone experience, Snapdragon is far far ahead.
Sorry for the rant but it's just frustrating, hopefully one day Samsung will listen, in the meantime I'll enjoy my Snapdragon equipped Oppo :good:
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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/13/samsung-galaxy-alpha-officially-announced/
As usual, the phone is ugly, and considering the fact it's here to battle the iPhone 6, that's understandable.
The interesting part is that it has LTE Advanced baked in, but the SoC is Exynos. Could it be finally the 5433?
Share your outrage/admiration here (unless I just did something stupid and broke forum rules and the mods intend to blast the thread into oblivion ).
It's like a "iSamsung".. I really don't like when they get to battle the phone of another brand and they get used to "copy" the design for it's own device. It has more the look of an iPhone than a Samsung.. I'm not sure if I like it..
The metal construction might emulate iPhones, but the thin, flimsy plastic back cover is all Samsung. At least the (dinky) battery is replaceable though.
Obviously this phone is meant to compete with the iPhone 6. I have no idea if it'll actually sway iPhone owners into the Android world. But it's clearly a vanity device, and should succeed in at least some small way with people who like Android but wish their phone could look more like an iPhone. Somehow I doubt the Alpha will get much love in the way of development and modding. High price, moderate specs, small battery..."power" users such as us won't bother much with this phone.
I think this phone is designed as a midranged one and for people who like the compact iPhone style. Sadly the form factor would be perfect for one handed use but the screen is really underwhelming and not allowing mdcards is a huge mistake. I like the octacore cup bit Samsung is really starting to behave like Apple and that's not a good thing. Removing features and then releasing overpriced underwhelming products
The alpha with full HD, mdcards support and without Knox would have been awesome, disappointed. Instead of targeting iPhone users they should have targeted the Android crowd looking for high powered compact phones!
If benchmarks are to be believed, the thing smashed the Note 3... the octa-core version Note 3. If the Alpha has the Exynos 5433 and they finally went "true" octa-core, it might be worth a look.
But, having a big ol' ugly Nope 3, I'm more hyped for the ugly Note 4, which is bound to be a monster we might like.
I wonder if it's gonna have any IP certification. Probably not though as I didn't see any gaskets.
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If benchmarks are to be believed, the thing smashed the Note 3... the octa-core version Note 3. If the Alpha has the Exynos 5433 and they finally went "true" octa-core, it might be worth a look.
But, having a big ol' ugly Nope 3, I'm more hyped for the ugly Note 4, which is bound to be a monster we might like.
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http://www.phonandroid.com/galaxy-alpha-samsung-devoile-officiellement-iphone-6-killer-metal.html
I was really tempted for this device unless i found out the battery was jz 1800mah..
Only if had 2500 or 3000mah i would have readily exchanged my nexus 5 which also has a pathetic battery life
The thing looks like an updated S2, actually. I have one at work which is with a Chinese copy battery and CM11 on it. 2 days on standby so far, battery is at 80%-ish.
The Nexus carries a 5 inch full HD screen and has no battery saving modes at all.
I won't be surprised if the Alpha thing manages to last longer.
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I was really tempted for this device unless i found out the battery was jz 1800mah..
Only if had 2500 or 3000mah i would have readily exchanged my nexus 5 which also has a pathetic battery life
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I shouldn't be too bad... should good battery life... considering it's like 25% more efficient than a 801-805 snapdragon chip (20nm) Should be interesting to see it's performance though. the chips built for 1440p so with that being said the chip is made to be energy efficient at 1440p. 720p is going to have good battery life considering the chip is pushing exactly 4x times less pixels than it was made to.
Doesn't look as good as the S5? No SD card slot, no USB 3, still only 2Gb of Ram? No real reason to upgrade IMO
the things why i didnt buy samsung is... because its sparepart is quite expensive
and (the center shop) quite far from my house
Live photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/virgile-fontaine/with/14920579955/
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Live photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/virgile-fontaine/with/14920579955/
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Damn ?, it's sexy!
I think it looks fine haha, but the 1860mAh battery :S
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I think it looks fine haha, but the 1860mAh battery :S
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It's frustrating because as I keep complaining if it was 3 mm thicker it could have the Isocell Camera from Note 4, a 2500 Mah Battery,
and an SD Card, and a more powerful speaker or TWO - in this pocket sized phone !
So I am hoping and lobbying Samsung for Alpha Pro with above features
and some Note 4 Specs - but NOT more Pixels in Screen because that will slow the phone down.
Alpha Pro would be priced like Note 4 people will cry about price - but I would pay $700-750. for Pro version.
Would you ?
Hello,
the firmwares of the Alpha are out.
Now I wanted to take a look into the firmware, but somehow I can't unpack it. Tried the method with sgs2toext4 and ext4_unpacker but always failed. The system.img seems to be ok, it's 1.908.047 KB big.
Someone knows a way to unpack this KitKat Firmware of the Alpha?
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Hello,
the firmwares of the Alpha are out.
Now I wanted to take a look into the firmware, but somehow I can't unpack it. Tried the method with sgs2toext4 and ext4_unpacker but always failed. The system.img seems to be ok, it's 1.908.047 KB big.
Someone knows a way to unpack this KitKat Firmware of the Alpha?
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Can you post a link? I'm more interested in the Kernel sources ...
@modpunk
Sure. Here you go.
wth does . this. always. happen. I wanted a smaller phone , I was waiting. I kinda of enjoyed the blackberry z10 I had at work but had to give it up. I was hoping the z10 got a refresh, at anyrate I ordered one thursday. I go to the at&t store to pick out a phone for my wife..and I see the alpha..!!!!!!!! damn it.
In light of OnePlus 3's release coupled with some less than desirable things about our phone, I want to know what you guys think about it. When I say less desirable I mean the build quality, poor developer support due to kernel source being held back by Xiaomi, smaller screen.
I have the 64GB Black version.
I'm doing exactly this. I purchased a OP3 straight away and I am so much happier with it than the Mi5.
It feels much more premium in the hand! The screen looks great compared to the Mi5. I don't like the haptic feedback on the Mi5 either, it's like getting a small electric shock, the OP3 is really soft.
I found MIUI quite irritating and wound up going with unofficial CM on the Mi5. Security features in MIUI annoyed the hell out of me and as for unlocking the bootloader, well. On the OP3, instant. Mi5, requests and waiting.
Oxygen OS is near stock with a few nice enhancements. Android Pay works out the box. I don't even feel the need to root this device, but lets just say I did - developer support is already excellent. Before the devices even hit, CM and TWRP were available for it. Oneplus encourage you to develop and test new ROMS. Doesn't void the warranty.
In essence, yes, selling on my Mi5. Feel much happier with the OP3. (despite the apparent memory issues, but it works well for me).
i would stay with my mi5, even though its underclocked 820, i expect kernel sources to be released soon and we can then over clock it a little bit also battery life is great and i love the light weight and smaller screen because i have used rn3 before and 5.5" screeb us too big for my taste.
well i keep mi 5.nothing much to upgrade to OP3.specially battery life that is more important to me.and i cant handle 5.5" screen.
It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
Both are budget phones the Mi5 is a bit more budget then the OP3 but that's it.
If I sell the Mi5 it's for a true-premium phone and not another budget SD 820 device.
Both phones have pros and cons.
It's very subjective to give the right (but still subjective) weight to them.
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- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
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Mi 5 ain't IP67. No dust/water resistance for Mi 5.
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
Steps Parku said:
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
TheUltrametricSpace said:
You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
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6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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I have an mi5 pro and an OP3 so i know what i talking about. op3 screens sucks, pentile low res shows text poorly, low brightness and strange colours.
Here for you to read:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/7
"Unfortunately, the display really kills the phone for me. Based on every other aspect I think it would be a no-brainer to replace the Nexus 5X with the OnePlus 3 as my daily driver, even if it is bigger than I'd like. I simply can't though, because I just feel unpleasant whenever I look at the OnePlus 3's display. I don't think it's a stretch to say it's the worst display I've examined during my time at AnandTech, as despite the Nexus 6's faults it didn't have the ghastly blue appearance of the OnePlus 3."
Steps Parku said:
6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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Proof your point and have the phone for six years.
The claim that a phone needs 6GB Ram to be future proof is just retarted.
The huge majority of OP3 customers will update the device long long before the 6GB RAM are required.
Future proofing on a PC is retarted but it's even more stupid on a Phone. Yet please proof me wrong and get an OP3 as main driver for the coming six years.
Challenge accepted.
Edit found this nice read on xda: The RAM Conundrum: How Much RAM Do We Really Need?
It's a good read for all who are able to read and think.
6GB of RAM feels as necessary as, say... 16-32GB on a computer. Sure, you're "future-proofing" your device for the few uses that may pop up occasionally in the future, but for most usage scenarios, it'll be unnecessary.
The real decision-makers are probably the (screen) size, price difference and software.
Some prefer a 129g 5.1-inch phone, while others a 158g, 5.5-inch phone. Colour accuracy is definitely an issue on the OP3 at the moment, but it seems like a fix is incoming to reverse OnePlus' "Optic AMOLED" tweaks. Not to mention the LCD/AMOLED differences, which further splits the fields between preferences. Additionally, the $50 difference at the 64GB models (Mi5 2299RMB (~346USD) to OP3 400USD) may also be a deal breaker. And yes, some prefer a more stock Android experience.
But in the end, it's all about personal preference. Make your own decisions based on your own judgement, but you shouldn't force that decision upon others. Even if 6GB of RAM on a phone right now really is slightly silly.
...But to address the OP: I'm sticking with what I've got, and I'm content with my Mi 5 Pro. If you like it, keep it. If you don't, go ahead and test new waters.
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It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
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MI5 doesent have water resistance !!!
http://en.miui.com/thread-231030-1-1.html
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Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
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OnePlus with their software support is crap. I am user of OPO and for me it is very clear - never again! Build quality of OP3? Look at all images done by iFixit and make your judgment. This is not top quality for sure. Screen? Better than MI5? If you think so you are probably color blind, I am sorry for hursh statement but it is true. Want more? Battery life, non-standard quick charge, unimpressive design, average cameras and so on ... and it is more expensive. So go ahead, buy one and in few months I feel very much like me - disappointed at best.
Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
Note 9 is rumoured to have a 4000mah battery. I am not fully satisfied with the battery life of my s9+. The processing speed should be similar as they will use the same SOC. I suggest you to wait till note 9 announcement and then decide.
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Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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Here is the real question, would you rather have an S Series or a Note Series?
If you prefer the S Series then get the s9+ now. If you prefer the Note series I would wait.
I used to be a big Note fan but when they started making the S Series with curved glass I have stuck with them and skipped the note series.
AS the guy above me said, Memory and CPU / GPU are going to be the same ones as in the S9+ so you will not loose anything there.
So yeah, I was in the same dilemma recently and choose the S9+. The Note has a lot of features that I will never use them. Starting with the S-Pen.
I'd wait even if you decide on the s9+, the S9+ may drop in price once the Note9 comes out and the s9/s9+ isn't the "latest and greatest" anymore.
I bought note 8 and it is too big for me and too heavy. The battery was too small but the pen was fantastic. I decided to sell it for buy s9+ and I'm very happy. The battery isn't fantastic but allows you to get to the end of the day. I recommend you s9 + now, you save money and you have a great phone
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Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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As @vishnu8058 mentioned, Im too not so happy with the batterylife . Though its acceptable , i've experienced superior batterylife in several other flagships in recent times. Keeping that in mind alone, I would simply wait till August end if I were you.
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There will be no big jump in processor or such as it would come with the same SD845/Exynos 9810 SoC, but an 8 GB RAM/512 GB storage- region specific Note 9 may show up that may not interest you. Rest deciding factor should be the size, S-pen usability, weight , your taste on samsung environment and ofcourse the price :fingers-crossed:
I did a similar jump but from Note 4 to S8+ last year, contemplating the same dilemma as to whether to wait for Note 8 or not. In the end, I had the Note 3 and Note 4 and with either I almost never used the pen, which is really the main selling point over the S series, so I went with the S8+ (with the S8+ and later the physical screen size difference is much less than it used to be between the S and Note series).
Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
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Using an old note 4.
2 new batteries and it still just conks out when it feels like it. Does the reboot loop until i plug it in...desided to give up the ghost and get a new phone.
I know the New note 9 will be available around end of Aug..but i wondered if i just bought a 9s+ would i see much of a difference?? Will there likely be a big jump in processing power and Ram...and would i actually notice? Thing is 9S+ is here now..plenty cases and extras out there etc...tempting..any suggestions?? Thxs
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Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
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It's clear that you don't need a Note device, BUT still the jump in battery is something that I think many people would appreciate, BUT we need to remember what happened last time Samsung tried to put a decent battery size in a Note phone.
Size is another to keep in mind, because Note series are usually bigger, and trust me when I say that the S9+ is already a big phone; yes, is still manageable, but for me S9+ is in the limits of what you can handle or you can carry in your pocket without problems.
Price will also be another factor, because you will be paying a huge difference (~30%) just for an upgrade in battery, because you won't be using all those features that justify the price of the Note 9, and currently you can grab sweet deals with the S9+, and when the Note 9 comes out, price will slightly decrease as well.
Overall S9+ is a really nice phone and as long as you spend time setting it, you would get enough juice for a day.
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Heres the thing...
I lost my pen from the note 4 soon after i got it...and desided i wasnt going to replace it as i didnt need it. Thats how i feel about note 9. Im not interested about the pen. All im interested in is:
(Not in any order)
Storage
Ram
Chip speed/ gpu
Battery
Screen quality/size
Sound
This is really why i posted...perhaps i should have started out with this email...apologies for the waffle..lol
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All checked. Bruh if high batterytime matters to you thn it's not the GS9+.GN8 is the one I went back from s9+ aftr quite smtime <pen rarely useful to me> but I'm OK with it and excited to upgrade to GN9
Im genuinly tempted to go for the g9s+.
Reasons..
1. Its out now
2. Plenty reviews..seems pretty solid.
3. Been out long enough..plenty good cases / access.
4. Getting cheaper/better deals
5. Gs series seems to now be the flagship phone. Note series just fills in the gaps between iphone/competitors hardware release.
Wot else should be on this list?
Also do u think the upgraded hardware on the n9 with outperform the 9s+?? Is it a new chip or the same..as there will be an upgrade in ram to 8gb..surely thats going to make a huge difference??
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Also do u think the upgraded hardware on the n9 with outperform the 9s+?? Is it a new chip or the same..as there will be an upgrade in ram to 8gb..surely thats going to make a huge difference??
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I think the performance is going to be very similar, if not identical. There almost certainly won't be a hardware upgrade for the Note 9 (excepting the reported RAM increase), the chipset is likely to be the same as the S9 and S9+ (like the Note 8 vs S8/S8+ last year). It seems to be confirmed now that the design of Note 9 won't change much since the Note 8, just like the S9 and S9+ this year, so they should also all look almost the same.
The Galaxy S series have always been Samsung's flagship phone -- the Note series have been considered 'phablets' due to the size of the device, although the line got a little blurred with the 'plus' editions of the S series - S6 Edge+ (Note 5 was the same size), S7 Edge (the Note 7 was 0.2" larger), S8+ (the Note 8 was 0.1" larger) and S9+ (seems like the Note 9 will be 0.2" larger).
I think you need to decide between the following criteria (you've stated the pen isn't important to you so, so that's not on the list):
Price (S9+ will be cheaper, probably by quite a bit, than the Note 9 at launch and for some time after). This is probably going to be the single biggest difference between the two.
Battery (Note 9 is suggested to have a 4000mAh battery vs the 3500mAh on the S9+).
RAM (I don't think the 8GB is going to make a any noticeable difference over 6GB in normal day-to-day use, and bear in mind more RAM means a little bit more power usage - haven't got any hard numbers about that, mind, so I don't know actual practicalities on it).
Storage (It seems the Note 9 may have a 512GB version on top of the others, though it will be pricey).
I am perhaps biased given I have the S9+, but personally I would've gone for the S9+ and gotten the phone now rather than wait - but that's me
Either will be a great choice, and neither will be a mistake - particularly coming from a Note 4.
Any advantage to buying an international sim free compared to a locked phone say with o2 or voda?
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Any advantage to buying an international sim free compared to a locked phone say with o2 or voda?
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Not in terms of specs or anything. All comes down to the deal, and buying an operator-locked phone obviously requires you to unlock if you want to switch operator (something they are obliged to do by law on request, so it's not an issue, just a consideration to make). Usually you end up paying more for the phone over the term of the contract under which you purchase it, but obviously the upside is you pay monthly until the end of the contract and don't have to splurge out the money up front.
I got the galaxy s9+ from samsung store 4 days back and I am absolutely loving it. Got a total discount of 14k INR which is good in my opinion. The battery is hit or miss but aparat from that I am loving every bit of it.
I feel the Note is too large to carry around and with bigger screen size + additional note functions its going to suck the 4000mah battery at same rate as galaxy s9+
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and bear in mind more RAM means a little bit more power usage - haven't got any hard numbers about that, mind, so I don't know actual practicalities on it).
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Fun fact : For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power negligibly in comparison to less RAM of the same type. In fact , more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them. :fingers-crossed:
I am thinking of replacing my current S8+ phone with this one...seems like a steal for me..what say guys
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I am thinking of replacing my current S8+ phone with this one...seems like a steal for me..what say guys
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See it totally depends on you what you actually want in your phone.
S8+ is premium class phone
-best camera
-Samsung's UX
-good looking
-amoled edge to edge display
-glass front and back
Soo yea its a premium phone. So don't sell it
Pocophone f1 is a budget phone with flagship specifications
It may not look premium and eye candy like galaxy s8+, but it is for power users who don't have so much budget.
I personally want to buy poco f1, because of that specification with aggressive pricing . And currently I am using redmi note 3, So yea for me its a huge upgrade.I will use custom rom on this thing as i am doing with redmi note 3.
See i not i favor of poco or Samsung,but its totally upto your requirement. What you actually want.
Well, I don't have money for now. I would suggest going for this phone. Because Samsung is selling crap these days. And moreover no custom and AOSP ROMs. so using Samsung just for the camera and few other things is useless.
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I am thinking of replacing my current S8+ phone with this one...seems like a steal for me..what say guys
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You want to replace a flagship with a budget phone? I would never do that it makes no sense to me.
Yes it has some great hardware, newer than the s8 but still....budget phone dude.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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methuselah said:
Well, I don't have money for now. I would suggest going for this phone. Because Samsung is selling crap these days. And moreover no custom and AOSP ROMs. so using Samsung just for the camera and few other things is useless.
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No custom roms?
Guess you havent checked in the samsung development forums lol.
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No you shouldn't. S8 is a flagship device and it will beat poco in many departments. For just SD845 leaving S8 is not practical. SD835 and SD845 don't have that huge of a performance gap either, games will perform more or less same.
But yea, if you're broke for some reason and need some money but can still afford a 300$ device then I think it's a good idea.
I .b2.WJQwould do it for the bootloader. Samsung makes beautiful flagships but to me, what's the point if the bootloader is locked. As you probably guessed I live in the U.S (near Cleveland) and couldn't spend $900 to buy a International phone. So I'm stuck with a G965U and a 2 year plan with Sprint
buy a Pixel 2 XL
if you're into casual usage and use your phone as it is, use Samsung
if you're into modding and flashing, maybe this is a good one although we don't know how massive the development of this rom can be
I'm thinking of getting this and I've just sold my S9+. That is a premium phone but I found I don't care for the curved edges, I was over protective, in case it dropped etc. The camera is great, particularly video.
I've also noticed that resale values of the S9 have dropped considerably, you can pick them up for £500 for the plus model on some sites.
What appeals to me with this phone is the power. The camera seems good, and similar to the One Plus 6 on some reviews. Also, for taking a photo to post ok social media I really do wonder just how much of a difference people actually notice now.
I like the fact it doesn't have a glass back, so more durable and less likely to want to stick a case ok it. I know the screen is Gorilla Glass 3 so will stick a screen protector on.
This phone offers so much for the price it's unbelievable. I'm pretty much certain I'm going to get it and not have the associated anxiety of if I damage my phone its going to cost an arm and a leg to fix. Be keen to see some drop tests.
Amfakh said:
if you're into casual usage and use your phone as it is, use Samsung
if you're into modding and flashing, maybe this is a good one although we don't know how massive the development of this rom can be
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Just go for it I sold my note8 now i am in love with this device...camera is great battery is better than note 8 and phone unlocking speed is insane...the battery life sucks on note8..but this phone goes 1.5 days with some good usage.
The only thing i am missing from note is ip67 water and dust rating which xiaomi will launch in future devices
If your budget is not for a S9/S9+/note9 then why not. People are going "mad" to get this phone so for the 2-3 next months you can easily sell as a used one for a good price if you don't like it. Sure it is not a premium phone like S8, it is better in some specs but in other cases fall far behind S8.
Galaxy S8+ its not that old, you dont really need to change your phone unless its broken and you are looking for a new one, if you have a good and functional S8+ stay with it. Now if you are like me, that its still rocking a nexus 5 which the battery life now its less than 1 hour SoT then a poco phone could be a good replacement
Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRnbm9wrzg
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Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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I am also curious to know how this translates. The guy who created this benchmarks specifically states its supposed to translate to real world performance pretty well, but that's taking his word for it. We will see.
https://www.androidauthority.com/speed-test-g-926659/
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
Really want an exynos chispset for the unlock, but none of them support band 71 as far as I know. Currently faced with a huge dilemma
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2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Latin American and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants were unlocked from the start (previous models) but turns out they need to be unlocked manually, I assume though some type of vulnerability.
People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
Samsung has proven it knows what it's doing with exynos in years past. If there does happen to be an issue, I'm certain they can issue a fix for their in-house built processor.
Isn't this just the same old fundamental issue Anandtech much talked about with the Exynos S9 last year? At least its not looking as bad as last year's SOC.
Exynos fares better here (compared to other reviews).
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s10_plus-review-1901p5.php
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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That is very impressive. Usually iphones are extremely hard to beat. It's good to see that Samsung is finally learning to remove bloatware and create much lighter software.
Here it is for anyone else;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
mlodykaras said:
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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The S10 phones have UFS 2.1, the first phone with UFS 3.0 will be the Galaxy Fold
That xs max vs s10 video, scrolling was pretty choppy on the right phone.
The exynos model is alot better for battery life than the s9. As mentioned above the exynos model will usually run smoother and have better battery life.
Just got my S10e G970F setup and updated to the new patch with Feb security. This thing flies. Repeat.. no performance issues in casual use and I'm not sure under what conditions there would be issues. I'm sure Pubg runs just fine. Feels a noticable step faster than my Pixel 3, which is exactly what I was expecting. Full day battery test tomorrow..
Benchmarks are nothing.
(And really liking this phone so far)