After a lot of research I decided to buy Nokia 8.1 but unfortunately it's not available in my country anymore. The closest option is Nokia 7.2. Is the build quality good enough? Is the performance acceptable? Would I regret buying it? (I know it's a stupid question but I really need help!)
PS. The 8.1 had 4gb RAM , the 7.2 has 6gb does the higher ram compensate for the weaker processor in overall performance?
I'd wait for the 7.3/6.3. I have the Nokia 7.2 and the software is riddled with bugs. But to answer your questions: build quality is great so far, the performance aside from the bugs is very good, I rarely notice apps force closing or stuttering, and I'd say the extra RAM definitely helps with performance. I just wish HMD would give a damn about fixing the long list of bugs this phone has.
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I'm not really into tweaking and messing with my phone so I just wondered If the Oneplus X stock experience is a good one or not. I heard some worrying issues like a weak version of the 801 proccesor, games lagging in european version(I live in Israel so its probably the version I'm getting) and camera lags. If someone can clarify on those issues a bit more and tell me if the phone is worth getting without rooting, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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Definitely helped Thanks!
I would say that the oneplus x is worth getting especially if you don't want to root your phone!
I usually root and fiddle around a lot with my phones, but with the oneplus x it took almost 1 month until I couldn't resist and just had to root it. The phone is basically bloatfree and fast out of the box.
I had to root in order to improve performance. In stock the phone lags, especially in games.
I only rooted to flash the kernel and for some other stuff like greenify and adaway, but Oxygen OS isn't as bad as some would say it is, bugs here and there but its clean enough.
OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
I usually root my device on day one of my purchase. I have always used my devices with rooting / jailbreak and i find it much comfortable rather than a stock. With root you can throw out the bloatware and customize the phone as you need. So i prefer rooted phone always.
But with OP , stock ROM seems to be packing all the features needed without bloatware. So if you can live with popup adds in apps and chrome, OPX will provide you a great experience. And with OPX price, it is always worth getting it :good:
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OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
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So is honor 5X running CM13 or any other "lightweight" ROM significantly faster?
I used Nexus 5 for 2,5 years. What a great phone it was.
My usage consists of:
a) endomondo,
b) relay for reddit,
c) browsing teh internet,
No gaming whatsoever.
My N5's power button died (RIP) so I decided to give Honor 5X a shot, since I had opportunity to get it really cheap.
I love the feeling of the phone, the screen and battery life and fingerprint sensor are amazing - even the camera which is mediocre at best by today's standards surpasses the one on my good old N5.
BUT it is so much slower than N5 that it starts to really grind my gears.
When an app is opened, it works just fine - however the speed of changing apps is terrible, EMUI is way too aggressive with RAM management aswell. Waiting 5s for hangouts to load gets annoying really fast.
I currently use Nova Prime with stock OS and other than the speed itself I have no complaints, I really like the phone.
So, my question is: did you notice significant speed increase after flashing CM/alike ROM? Is it worth the hassle for someone who did not do it before?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I believe that is a noticeable performance increase and is well worth trying out - just make sure you make a full Nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong and then you're safe to do as you please. I don't think it's too much hassle. It's pretty fast for this kind of hardware at this price point, But of course, this isn't a flagship phone like a Nexus so don't expect speeds of that caliber. Overall CM 13 feels buttery smooth to me. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Some people may have issues with XPosed, but so far I have none- your mileage may vary.
The only thing you might miss is the current lack of Fingerprint support - the Devs are aware of this and are working hard at this and are always being harassed about it, haha. Real work on that sensor won't be until the Official Marshmallow release, and it's not even a guarantee since the devs work on this ROM in their spare time. I still give props to crpalmer for providing us with such a nice CM13 for the Honor 5X.
Yes. Former Nexus 5 user as well and I loved that phone to death. CM13 performance on the Honor 5X is comparable to Marshmallow on N5. Very occasional minor hitches and glitches, and the rare crash and reboot, but overall buttery smooth just like the N5 and I am very happy with it. Leaps and bounds better than EMUI.
Biggest improvement is multitasking in my opinion. The EMUI Task switcher is glitchy and clunky and as soon as you start flying back and forth between apps on the recent screen in CM13 it will hit you how slow and limiting EMUI has been.
yes, I am running parallel shifts on SlimROM by @jsbeyond and the default EMUI (rooted and debloated), and the difference is quite telling! It almost seems like a competent athlete speeding away to the racing line while running Slim, while on EMUI it runs like an injured confused directionless bum. Only thing I miss from EMUI is the camera app
Like @mtmv2 said, multi tasking and fluidity is where you will feel most of the difference. I personally felt that the audio output (speakers) on Slim is also way less muffled than in EMUI. I use V4A as well, on both, so I am sure of the difference in audio with the same V4A profiles running in both environments. Battery on Slim is more controllable for drain, privacy protection, boot apps control etc is way better. Best of all is the battery saver, that stops the auto-sync only and helps battery last longer unlike in the EMUI which turns the phone into a 1990s sort of device with call and paging functions the moment you pick "battery saving mode"! Least said the better, but Slim restores all the android dignity of icons and animations compared to the toyish, immature, wannabe UI of the OEM.
I have owned RN3P for two months now, and I'm pretty satisfied with it, except from the camera ofcourse. Just now, I saw a ad on olx for Nexus 5x for pretty reasonable price and now I'm confused should I sell my RN3P and get the nexus device. I know that Nexus 5x has SD808 and Adreno 418, which are definitely inferior to RN3P's config. So, on paper, RN3P blows Nexus 5x out of the water. But, on the other side, Nexus devices PERFORM, and also the nexus 5x sports a much much better camera than RN3P. I don't click much photos, but anyone would like to have a good camera phone. I don't care about battery too much and 2700mah on nexus 5x will be enough for me. And, I do use my phone for bit of gaming (MC4 :-B).
So, if someone has both the devices or just want to give a advice. Please comment..!!
One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot go back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.), Also, Big battery is a big advantage of RN3 Pro, over 5x. Keep it in mind as well.
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
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Camera is much much better than RN3 but also SD 650 beats 808 on performance. So you decide yourself, that you want better community support and faster updates or overall better vfm device.
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You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.)
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Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
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Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Then there must be something special in MIUI, if it can increase that much of AnTuTu score.
BTW, Nice to see, you made the decision.
Wanna buy this phone for brother , for usual teen ****.. insta,Fa,PUBG etc.
Are there any other good options available? Note5 is out of stock. Honor7c comes to mind , what are your thoughts on that?
Budget is 10k
Thankful for every suggestion
i don't know but the honor 7c is stronger since it has 4gb ram and comes with oreo and is 2018 while the redmi 5 has 2 variants 2 or 3gb ram, as far as cpu goes i think they have the same cpu but still both phones are great, right now i;m using redmi 5 3gb ram and i have to say the optimization is great, all apps run very smooth and the phone works great overall but if we'd go for performance i believe the honor 7c 4gb ram is a little bit better, but if you're gonna choose between redmi 5 3gb and honor 7c 3gb then defenitely choose redmi 5, cuz it has bigger battery and works more smoothly, but if you can afford the 4gb ram huawei then defenitely choose the huawei, just my opinion though,good luck
Usage Time is enough to Cover the whole Day with a Internet Connection. You can be on YouTube for straight 6 Hours and more, I was not even nearly at the End of Charge.
The Front Camera is Fine, the Back camera is astonishing.
The Loudspeaker is quietly Brilliant. Also the Screen can prove with Brilliance and Clarity.
The Update Notifications will bother you. I have encountered something with an Update, see at Q&A. Approximately 2 GB of Updates to do in sum.
Root is provided, Diversity in User-Rom is not expect, we have little Developers.
UI is flawless.
Can't say anything about Playing.
Connectivity is very High.
I've recently laid my eyes on this phone due to its very convenient price and set of features I, however, am a bit bummed out by the chipset which is a Snapdragon 730g instead of the latest Snapdragon 765g found on devices of similar prices (which however lack other features hence my dilemma).
My 1st question is how is the performance generally speaking currently? Are they any noticeable slowdowns or I'm just over-thinking this?
My 2nd question is can this phone be overclocked and or undervolted? I'm asking this as I know every SOC is a bit generous with stock voltages for the frequencies they pick, so I was wondering if there are apps to lower the voltages per each frequency bin to get the most battery out of it or vice-versa, get the most performance out of the stock voltages. (I currently do this on my S7 with great results however it's just an old phone at this point hence why I'm looking at this Xiaomi)
Thanks in advance for all the answers!
We need custom kernels to be able to over/ under volt, which we currently dont have. The kernel sources were released not long ago, from what i know developers are currently working on custom kernels which will be released soon.
Performance wise, its ok. Not great but does the job especially on aosp roms as miui is ram heavy (which Mi note 10 lite has plenty of).
it's not needed and only placebo nowadays.
miui isn't ram heavy at all. I've a few apps in autostart and max. 3.2gb ram in use.