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Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Finally I've made a move. TyTN X Sony Crossover Custom Headphones.
I've used a solder to remove the original earbuds wire and soldered a pair of cut SONY MDR-EX71SL headphones on. They sound 100 times better than the stock ones. This will ease my frustrations for now. I was tempted to solder my MDR-EX90LP on but they are $100 a pair. Too much for now
Later on I will try to rework the stock mini USB headphone and make a 2.5mm connector for it so I can use all kinds of headphones(with mic) and connect to a speaker system as I want!
EDIT: It appears that the original mini USB headset has 6 wires, 4 should be for the headphones and the remaining 2 for the mic, I can simply cut up the wire right after the mini USB port and connect the 6 wires to a standard cell phone headset 2.5mm connector then I should be able to connect the TyTN to all kinds of headsets![/img]
Arent you essentially doin this? http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html as seen in another post, seems like the most universal way to solve the problem.
I do like the way you built a set without a plug, cleaner..less cord and weight, but I know myself, I go through a pair of headphones about every 2 months on my mp3 player, Id hate to have to redo the soldering everytime, I expect with the headphones being such an issue for most peple that the market will be flodded in a month or so with headphones for the tytn, or atleast adapters, shoot, the one guy in the above url even offered to do it for free, as long as you bought the plug.
is there still no adaptor available to buy?
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
crash74 said:
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
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@crash74
Looks very good, even more solid than the other solution, but how do you open the unit to reach the print, is their any trick?!
Can i also use the new connection as a line-out for little active stereo boxes, or is this to tricky for TyTn/boxes?
worked like a dream i have no more crapy hissing inbetween tracks and now i can play my song thu my hi-fi that 1 to the modders and 0 to htc
Adapter usb to 3.5 jack
Go to semsons.com, they have the adapter
qing84, I have the same headphones as u=) firstly I solve this problem like you, but I smash the small "black box"=) with mic and volume control, and i was need connect my mdr-ex71 directly to TyTN without "black box"=(
I was glad that i did it, because sound became much more louder, and more clean...
qing84 said:
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
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umm...you could have just bought this.... http://www.cellphoneshop.net/auadforci85.html
i think its a good idea to replace the head phone leaving the mic in workin condition.as there is no connector is still available at least in my town.i ll try it tomorrow.thanx dude
Hi,
My Vario II justification to the misses was that we'd be able to listen to music in the car with it (our CD player is dead).
Has anyone come across an FM transmitter that you can power from the car cigar lighter and plug directly into the mini usb socket on the TyTN?
Cheers,
Steve.
I'm looking for the same thing
I bought a SONY MEX5000 BT stereo that uses Bluetooth streaming. It is so cool! much better quality(sound) then the radio ones. I dont carry CDs anymore just everything over BT with MP3s.
FM Transmitter w/car charger
Have a look at this:
Audia-x FM Wireless transmitter Version 2
_http://www.merconnet.com/product_info.php?products_id=426&page=1&meRrid=62fb2de7fd3cc8773287b55f5251c89f
and
_http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=85
and Car FM Transmitter + USB Charger Adaptor
_http://www.tangshop.com/mp3-fm-transmitter-usb.html
_http://jpshk.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11038314/5_In_1_FM_Car_Transmitter_For_Ipod_PDA_MP3_Players.html
_http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?pg=prod&ref=FM-TRANSMITTER
Google rulit nepadeccki :-D
lvlx said:
Have a look at this:
Audia-x FM Wireless transmitter Version 2
_http://www.merconnet.com/product_info.php?products_id=426&page=1&meRrid=62fb2de7fd3cc8773287b55f5251c89f
and
_http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=85
and Car FM Transmitter + USB Charger Adaptor
_http://www.tangshop.com/mp3-fm-transmitter-usb.html
_http://jpshk.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11038314/5_In_1_FM_Car_Transmitter_For_Ipod_PDA_MP3_Players.html
_http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?pg=prod&ref=FM-TRANSMITTER
Google rulit nepadeccki :-D
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and how to connect ?
--> no way @ this moment ...
Try Nokia HS-12W. Google to see how it looks like.
It is a bluetooth Stereo Headset which you can listen to MP3 played from Tytn.
It is also a standalone FM Radio by itself without the Tytn at all.
I have one, cool.
Hi and is there a bluetooth receiver taht one can plug into a stereo ?
HS-12W is a Wireless (no wire between it and phone) Stereo Headphone via Bluetooth with Build in FM Radio.
What I meant about the bluetooth reciever is if there is one that tha pda streams music and is recieved by a device that can be plugged into the home stereo, same principle as a headset only differance is that it'll go to speakers.....hop I made it clearer this time... or maybe it's that I am not gettin it jaja
You are refering to Home Stereo Hi-Fi Amplifier/Receiver to speakers. Well it is something I was thinking about some years ago when I first read the white paper on Bluetooth v2.0 A2DP Profile.
But Hi-Fi industry in term of following latest trend is normally a little slower than the computer & mobile industry. So far, not that I know of that there is a build in Bluetooth Hi-Fi system including speakers. Maybe it is time to do a google on this topic, it would be good if there is such solution to get rid of the messy wire connections.
I do know that there is such thing as Bluetooth Donger, which is a bluetooth device with a headphone jack and you can plug the headphone jack into the Hi-Fi headphone jack and bingo you have wireless music with you wireless headphone, but bluetooth is quite subject to surrounding interfence, so you may have broken music in your ears.
The is also some not so good old technology using Infra-Red. The better ones are the wireless headphone sets using RF frequency which you can listen to music even you and your hi-fi are in different room.
Hope I got your question right this time.
Hey CWKJ,
Thanx for your reply. Look at the following link:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=130588
It's a bluetooth speaker, but what I am looking for is something that can make any car home stereo into a bluetooth reciever...
You mean something like the Tunestage II for the iPOD?
http://www.techdigest.tv/2006/10/belkins_tunesta.html
I'm looking for something similar that will plug into a car stereo - i.e. a bluetooth receiver which will plug into the external input of my car stereo, so I can stream to it from my TyTN - anyone know of anything?
PS Yes, I have seen the Parrot MK6000, but I don't think its out until Q1 2007....
BINGO!! Yes like this, only that you don't need the transmitter (tytyn would be it!).
check out the I-Tech S35 clip. A2DP receiver with a 5mm headset jack. You can cable this to your car with an adaptor cable. The I-Tech doesn't skip either!
Yes! this seems to work! jajaj do you actually use it? or know of someone that has used it with this purpose?
Once again thank you for your responses!
I've not used it myself for this purpose. I've no doubt that it will work though. What I am interested in is the usable range. The applicaton I have in mind will require 4-5 meter range from the I-Tech device to my TyTN.
C.R
Ok, you are talking about car hi-fi system, the speaker looks good.
For Home hi-fi system, maybe there isn't bluetooth audiophile speaker yet.
For the car hi-fi system, there are some with the audio output (the Left - Right or White - Red cable build-in type audio output cable). Buy another cable adaptor (Left - Right/White - Red to stereo headphone cable) and the Bluetooth Donger, connect them up and you will have the audio on you bluetooth speaker. Hope this works!
Hey! look at this:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/12/sony-goes-ape-with-a2dp-stereo-bluetooth-accessories/
Sony always has great product.
November 18 in Japan? If so, wondering when it will be available in other parts of the world?
I already found some for sale in ebay!! wow!
I'm considering removing the ear-pieces from my Lobster headphones, and fitting a 3.5mm stereo line socket like this one: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1210&criteria=3.5mm stereo socket&doy=24m5 to the end which would connect to one of these http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 FM transmitters to get DAB radio in my car.
The reason for modifying the headphones would be to retain the antenna function of the headphone lead, which would be strategically placed in the car to hopfully pick up a decent signal.
What do you think?
Get yourself a jack converter
I've been thinking about doing this too. I've got a small (Lobby size) 2.5 mm jack to normal (iPod size) 3.5 jack stereo convertor from e-Bay. I use this all the time as I don't like talking 2 sets of ear phones around with me.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...4QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Presumably you can get a wire (normal jack female to normal jack male) instead of detroying your headsets!
I wasn't sure whether an alternative cable would work as an antenna for the DAB radio channels like the original head-set does.
I have two headsets, so doesn't really matter if I butcher one of them.
Can you confirm that when using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and alternative headphones, the DAB radio stations still work?
Thanks!
I think it is the best one.
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iPod Converter
http://www.ipodconverter.com
i was thinking about doing this, but i've heard that these fm transmitters really don't work that well?
From what I've read, just like most other electrical goods, some are good, and some are not.
According to this review http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 of the Audia X transmitter, the sound quality is "excellent", but I guess sound quality is quite a subjective thing, and what's excellent for one person's set-up may not be for another's.
The Audia X is now available in the UK from places like this http://www.intomusic.co.uk/scripts/digiana-audiax.asp
so anyone got this working?
Aleemz said:
I'm considering removing the ear-pieces from my Lobster headphones, and fitting a 3.5mm stereo line socket like this one: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1210&criteria=3.5mm stereo socket&doy=24m5 to the end which would connect to one of these http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 FM transmitters to get DAB radio in my car.
The reason for modifying the headphones would be to retain the antenna function of the headphone lead, which would be strategically placed in the car to hopfully pick up a decent signal.
What do you think?
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For the best result you are better off soldering rather than plug in, wherever you can.
I am going to put two phono sockets on mine, to plug into Hi Fi so that I have DAB reception on stereo.
Press-E-Dent said:
For the best result you are better off soldering rather than plug in, wherever you can.
I am going to put two phono sockets on mine, to plug into Hi Fi so that I have DAB reception on stereo.
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Yeah, thats the plan, remove the ear-pieces from the headphones and solder a 3.5 mm stereo socket on the end so I can plug in the FM transmitter.
ringp3ace said:
I've been thinking about doing this too. I've got a small (Lobby size) 2.5 mm jack to normal (iPod size) 3.5 jack stereo convertor from e-Bay. I use this all the time as I don't like talking 2 sets of ear phones around with me.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...4QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Presumably you can get a wire (normal jack female to normal jack male) instead of detroying your headsets!
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I tried this method by buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...6QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86541QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I've tried 2 types of headphones with this but the radio and tv function won't work - not enough signal.
So I guess it's back to the original plan of butchering the headphones.
Sorry didn't realise that FM trannie had a male plug on it. thought it would have a female.
Mind you, being a trannie, how can you be sure.
Got it working
I've just got around to giving it a go.
I bought my FM transmitter (Power Trip FM) from HMV, and it comes with both 3.5mm and iPod connections.
I used the stereo 2.5mm male to 3.5mm female converter I bought off eBay.
Plugged it all together and hey presto, TV with the sound coming through the car speakers.
I'm in a good DAB area, so the signal is fine - even better with playing DAB radio.
No chopping or soldering required!!!
ringp3ace, are you saying that you're successfully tuning into a DAB signal using only a 3 pole 2.5mm jack? From Aleemz’s experiments with this earlier in this thread I thought the conclusion was that this wouldn't work. You must be in an area of ridiculously good DAB signal!
kettle,
Yep.
lobster > 2.5mm to 3.5mm > PowerTrip = no problems.
I am in a good DAB area too.
Does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147564[/URL]
will work with the Cingular 8525 (Hermes, TyTN)? This is sold in Europe and can be had in the US from Mobile Planet which seems to be the same as expansys.com.
On the European HTC site there is also a media fix that may apply to this accessory as well as the Y connector.
HTC audio Drivers
Downloading and installing this driver update will provide your HTC mobile device with the latest available optimised software for use with the following accessories:
YC A120 Y-Cable adaptor
The hot music setup for Mogul and 8525
I just purchased the HTC RC W100 Remote from Mobile Planet. It connects to the phone's extUSB and provides a 3.5mm headset jack that carries the mic port out to the connector. It has a 36" cord so there is a lot of cord if you have a long headset cord.
The head has controls for fast forward, pause, +/- volume and you can answer/end calls, mute and put a call on/off hold. This assumes that you have a mic on your headset to talk into.
The http://www.Europe.HTC.Com site says it is for the TyTn II but it seems to work with both the 8525 and the Mogul . . . It is not on the USA site at all.
I use the Sure SE110s stereo headset (individual internal sub-woofer component) and added their MPA-C cable that has a mic in it (Thsi would work for any headset). I have not found any other solutions that wok this well.
The standard headset really has poor quality and is uncomfortable for my ears. Bluetooth is either a mono headset w/ mic or a stereo headset (no mic) and the battery life is unpredictable.
This way I can ride my bike and control my music while the Mogul stays in my camel-back and when a call comes I can actually answer it and then go back to listening.
Very cool setup.
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
Headphone Problem
N1c0_ds said:
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
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N1cO;
I do not know what headset problem you are referring to but this is definitely a solution if you want to listen to music with a good stereo headset. I just happen to like the Shure stuff because they eliminate some road and wind noise while I am riding my bike or skiing. Also the higher end ones actually have miniature tweeters and sub-woofers built in.
All you need is the W100 and any headset with a 3.5mm jack.
As it turns out, I just found out the unit has a built-in mic and that eliminates the need for a more expensive headset that has a mic. There was nothing in the manual that came with it that talked about the mic! So RTFB does not work!
It also comes with a small disc that has the driver in it. I tried to install it on my Mogul but it said that I had the latest driver . . .
As far as the 36" cord, my Shure headset comes in 2 pieces, the earphones are on a short cord so it is not too long. If you had a standard headset, it might get a little long.
The other side of the Shure headset has the connectors that go into the device(s). This way you can have several different connectors for different phones, MP3 players, etc. Blackberry's and Razor's have different jacks and most cell phones like the HTC 8125 (Cingular) use a 2.5 mm jack.
I need some help I have a U-Connect in my car and a PCC-6800 Mogul Phone. Here is the problem, when the phone is plugged into the Aux Jack of the radio for the use of the MP3 on the phone. The U-connect will make the call and hang up with-in seconds. So from what I can tell, when the phone is plugged into the radio its seeing itself plugged into a headphone mic jack and will not let the Bluetooth work correctly. (I have the same problem if I am in the car using a Bluetooth headset for phone calls and the phone plugged into the Jack for MP3. In another car.) So my question is this does anyone have a reg hack to fix this problem. And or does anyone know how to or which pin I can removed in the jack if that’s possible? Thanks!!!
Well, yea. If you have a physical headset/headphone plugged in, that's obviosly where you want all your audio to go.
Here's what I'd do, not wanting to chance destroying a $400 phone. I'd get a BT receiver with a 3.5mm output that is designed to let you plug your own headphones in, and a 3.5 to 3.5 mm cable for it. I'd plug that into the radio.
I'd pair the phone to the U-connect, and then pair it to the receiver, but only select A2DP (stereo) when it asks for the profile.
For a receiver option,
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=154782
http://www.mobileplanet.com/d.aspx?i=145554
There are others around.