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Hey guys, what do you think? Would you rather get the S4 or the Padfone2? Opinions would be appreciated.
My Opinion is ASUS PADFONE 2 For That Reasons...
-My Pc is Asus
-My Laptop is Asus
-I had the padfone 1!
-And tommorow i buy the padfone 2!!!!!!
Also i saw review about that 2 phones.they are not so different but the external matterial of ASUS is great....
MY OPINION.....
(Also you can use asus as TABLET!!! Is A GOOD REASON!)
What's troubling me from making a decision right now is that the tablet can't be operated without the phone and you can't pick up incoming calls without removing it from the pad. Apart from that I've always thought that the padfone 2 was great but now there's S4. And there's not even a thread which is dedicated to the padfone 2 here which means I can barely tweak my padfone 2...
Sorrowed said:
What's troubling me from making a decision right now is that the tablet can't be operated without the phone and you can't pick up incoming calls without removing it from the pad. Apart from that I've always thought that the padfone 2 was great but now there's S4. And there's not even a thread which is dedicated to the padfone 2 here which means I can barely tweak my padfone 2...
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i have the padfone2 and you can answer your call from your pad,besides the Padfone infinity is coming out soon,wait for it then decide.
good :good:luck
Looked for along time at Samsung, but price crazy for 32gb tablet alone and would have needed another data plan (what's the point if it's not instant on, I'm not gonna set up tether every time I want to surf, and its going to kill my phone battery if I forget to turn it off...3g is essential!!!)...
so bought used fonepad off ebey in UK for 500, best superphone I've had in ages, last was HTC sensation which was good but much slower and constantly running out of and reallocating memory, app multitasking was just painful, and screen was just a little too small for surfing, note taking, video etc... OMG, compared, this padfone is multiple organism provoking
This one is awesome and the pads ability to recharge phone just by sliding it in means I can use it for work almost non stop during the day... without the risk of having entire functional and configured tablet nicked - phone stays in my pocket unless i need to do something...
Perfect concept,one data plan, auto switches to WiFi when in range, Supernote works great, easy to jump to tablet to compose longer emails and sms... great for travel, 5 gmail accounts no problem! White ebay ultra pu stand+case from justilikecom for 15 quid works great. Cheap eBay bt headphones from e-superb for 15 GBP work just great for calls and music, and even movies on the go.
Not so good:
battery use pretty heavy in tablet mode, but maybe cause battery getting old on this one.... not possible to run for whole day non-stop without a recharge in the middle, but i have yet to find one that does... manufacturers figures always assume lowest power modes and screen off after a couple of mins(doesn't work for my usage at work-taking notes every couple of minutes, Gtalk, calls etc.) Basically on more often than not....
Suffered from known issue of sporadic reboots maybe10 times total, when cycling WiFi on and off (but that hasn't happened in a week so maybe another config option has negated this issue- not sure?).
No issues with power connector as some people commented (aware so careful) but regular micro-usb chargers don't work well unless you just use them to charge pad by itself... with phone it seems to recognize that it's not Asus charger and load will be too great-stops charging-and i can't find a spare adapter uk anywhere....
Best- The flexibility and bi-personality of the pf2 is awesome, with separate home screen app-widget config in pad or fone mode works great, so you can have 2 completely separate sets of home screens-more work to set up but I find tablet use totally different to phone, so very useful to have. Takes maybe 1-2 secs for phone to switch over to pad mode and redraw-rescale everything. Nice!
Can take calls and use it as speakerphone, or via BT, or just pull phone out and talk. It's a one-stop shop for communications...Google hangouts with video work fine, Skype also, what more could you wish for.....
Wish I had the money for an infinity(1000 GBP!!!).... but I now know what my next phone-tab will be
Wish xda had separate section for us to hang out in as well......
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Follow-up.... on the charger issue-when phone is in tablet it detects amperage charger supplies and stops overloading if too low...so real 2A is required... nothing else.
Confirmed via http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?4405.0#post_5808
Will try and source a real 2A wall brick and see if that works....
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And more..... bought about 3 hi-power wall chargers that promised 2A - none of them worked fully like OEM charger. Despair was setting in. Called bunch of retailers, no-one had oem uk charger.....
Then I bought portapow 4 port charger. Works great. Real 2A puppy, so works just like OEM, charges both tab and phone together no problem.
Details for the desperate- 14.99 gbp from fleabay, free shipping. Listed as Quad 4-port universal USB mains ac wall charger 10W 2A for iPad by seller portapow_co_uk. I have no connection, just good opinion.
Now rooted and running guerilla rom.... finally some action!!!! I'm going to look for 64gb version next.. need more room for my music and videos
Enjoy, whatever you get!!!!!
Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
This smart dock is really cool, here is another demo of it getting hooked up with a KMV cable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPCY9PSfSk
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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tdgillihan said:
The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
OMG-FFS said:
The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
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It should work fine, but I don't have one so I can't test it to see. By connecting the keyboard with a mouse it automatically switches the interface to the mouse instead of the phones touch screen, so It may or may not see the touch screen feature of the monitor. I would just take it to someplace like Best Buy and test it first if I were you.
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
sent from my sm-9005.
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Right, it's compatible with the N3, but it doesn't mean it was made for it.
So you think the end user would benefit more (see the actual speed increase) from the 64 bit computing rather than transfer speeds increase from using the USB 3.0? I'm sure the dock station mean for a light home use (internet, documents, multimedia, etc, not sure about gaming with this setup) and not for the 3D modeling and such? I honestly can't say that I was blown away from switching to 64 bit home PC and notebook, the noticeable difference on a phone would be even less.
Thinking about it, can't even say I'd see the benefits of USB 3.0 as I don't (and won't be) copying files between the phone memory and the external storage.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EXA6WY6/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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Everything works perfectly. I watch full screen HD movies on my home theater system all the time. And the dock automatically switches the view on the HDMI connected peripheral to landscape. as long as you have daydream toggled off in display and desk home screen display toggled on in accessory. You should also set HDMI audio output to surround if you have a home theater system.
You don't need KMV switcher.
I get my movies from Showbox. Due to XDA policies, I can't post the apk for it here, but you can just Google it to download and install.
I am not getting 1080p
When I hook up the dock to the monitor it is giving me 1280x720. Any ideas?
Hello... I would buy this dock. But a question. Why have the note3 so a different usb-connector.. Micro-usb +??? My Orginal Samsung otg cable works. My non Samsung Orginal mhl-hdmi cable works. What or for What is this connector.. Another little help please. Cover and dock works together i read, is this right? I use Orginal Samsung s view Cover.
Gn3 has a usb3.0 connector. Standard 2.0 micro USB works fine
I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
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I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
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Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
This smart dock is really very nice .....
R2D2_NZ said:
Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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See NZtechfreak's YouTube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0 here.
He plays games with the SmartDock and his PS3 controller, so "completely unsuitable for gaming" is a bit of an exaggeration.
And nobody said there was no lag. I questioned the previous poster's "half second" lag experience. The lag through the dock is closer to a tenth of a second, as is clearly visible the clip.
If that's unacceptable to you, then your choice is clear - don't get one. And not everybody plans on gaming. For me, the ability to stream Netflix to my TV justifies the SmartDock's existence.
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I really want to edit the deadzones on the ipega 9023 telescopic bluetooth controller. I have seen very little information regarding this gamepad (and if it is even possible to adjust the deadzone successfully at all).
All I know is that I have to edit the .kl file for the ipega 9023, but I can't find the .kl file for this device at all. All I have to go on is the following:
First download root power explorer
Mount rw
Go to root
System/usr/keylayout
Search for your controler id vendor if u cant find it just go through all of them till you find this
# Left and right stick.
# The reported value for flat is 128 out of a range from -32767 to 32768, which is absurd.
# This confuses applications that rely on the flat value because the joystick actually
# settles in a flat range of +/- 4096 or so.
axis 0x00 X flat 4096
axis 0x01 Y flat 4096
axis 0x03 Z flat 4096
axis 0x04 RZ flat 4096
I wnt to the directory above and found nothing for the ipega. I also installed a terminal emulator and typed cat /proc/bus/input/devices to see all connected devices. I saw info on a device called "Broadcom Bluetooth HID" with vendor 1949 product 0402, but I saw no .kl file at all with that vendor id or product id.
Has anyone successfully calibrated the ipega 9023 and edited the deadzones at all? Should I just give up and deal with the deadzones?
Search this thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033780
Just search for your specific controller. I'm sure someone has already configured your controller, also with the correct vendor ID and product ID as they did mine, the file I found also had the Vendor ID as 1949 and the Product ID as 0402, but my controller is the iPega PG-9021.
I also read somewhere in that thread there is a tutorial to make your own .kl file. Worth a look!
Ok, thanks for the info!
Don't bother, the dead zones on the Ipega controllers are hard coded into the microcontroller on the gamepad itself. Yes Android keylayout files can then add their own additional deadzone, which is what you're looking at, but lowering it from 4096 won't do a damn thing because the Ipega's deadzone is already MUCH larger than that.
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Don't bother, the dead zones on the Ipega controllers are hard coded into the microcontroller on the gamepad itself. Yes Android keylayout files can then add their own additional deadzone, which is what you're looking at, but lowering it from 4096 won't do a damn thing because the Ipega's deadzone is already MUCH larger than that.
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yeah, i've been stuck with the same problem also. i've read somewhere that relodering a ps3 analog stick helped with the problem, but not much. i wish there was some way to fix the deadzones, the gamepad would be perfect
lukas.trop said:
yeah, i've been stuck with the same problem also. i've read somewhere that relodering a ps3 analog stick helped with the problem, but not much. i wish there was some way to fix the deadzones, the gamepad would be perfect
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread. New ipega offering on the market. Ipega 9083. Can't find any info on deadzone improvement or changes. Form factor is better than 9023 so maybe they tweaked internals as well. Any one want to gamble?
i threw my 9023 in the bin it was terrible
Canadave1 said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. New ipega offering on the market. Ipega 9083. Can't find any info on deadzone improvement or changes. Form factor is better than 9023 so maybe they tweaked internals as well. Any one want to gamble?
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Hi, just saw this new model myself and was looking for the same info. In the end I finished ordering it since it's not so expensive (which is not really a good sign per se, I should add). Should arrive in about a week, I'll let you know then! Fingers crossed!
Definitely post back. If you don't mind me asking what will you be using it on and what will you be playing?
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Definitely post back. If you don't mind me asking what will you be using it on and what will you be playing?
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It'll be coming from China, so it'll take more than expected (should arrive by the end of the month, I could swear it was a Prime product so I thought it was a next-day deal, but oh well).
The main thing is that I fear it could be a rebrand of another pad I tried in the past, the STG-ONE (look for it on Google) which was utter **** as not only it had the same deadzone troubles, it also didn't record analog sticks clicking (L3 and R3 inputs, in other words) even if the sticks clicked themselves, and bluetooth connectivity was completely unreliable.
Sure it looks identical, but anyway for 30 euros or so it's a test I can undertake.
EDIT: I've tried the STG-ONE again just to be sure and it's not as ****ty as I remembered, the deadzones are a bit better than i remembered (but still difficult to use in aiming for FPS games, tried on Dead Trigger 2), but the L3/R3 thing is a bummer. I'll try again the PG-9023 as soon as it charges enough, to see STG-ONE deadzones are at least better than its ones, or if they're the same.
Plan is to use with my Galaxy Tab S2 with Moonlight to stream PC games on it, the streaming works surprisingly well and is almost completely lag-free (works better on my S9 but i prefer the bigger screen). Also emulators, of course, MAME in particular, but such old games don't usually need analog sticks so the pads I already own are more than enough for them.
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I'll try again the PG-9023 as soon as it charges enough, to see STG-ONE deadzones are at least better than its ones, or if they're the same.
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Tried it. In hindsight, they pretty both suck. Will update when the PG-9083 arrives!
Hello everyone,
so, the PG-9083 arrived a couple days ago, but I've found just now the time to write here.
TL;DR: The analogs still suck, unless you connect the pad with an OTG cable and your phone supports Xbox 360 pads
So as soon as the package arrived I connected the pad to an USB cable coming from my PC, and I noticed the pad got recognized as an Xbox 360 controller. Didn't care much about it at that moment, but it actually was an important detail.
So I bluetooth connect the PG-9083 to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and after many tests the conclusion is that the analog sticks still suck. I even rooted the tablet and tried messing up with the keyboard layout files, but even changing the deadzone settings there didn't improve anything.
Then, I don't even remember why, I connected the PG-9083 directly to the Tab S2 with an OTG cable. The tablet didn't recognize the pad (for some reason Samsung didn't include Xbox 360 gamepad drivers in its Tab S2 and its Galaxy S9, which are the two devices that I own), but then I tried starting Moonlight (which is the main reason I'm interested in an Android pad) which has an internal custom Xbox 360 driver, and lo and behold, it worked like a charm, with the analog sticks performing perfectly.
So some final considerations:
- It seems it's a software problem rather than a hardware one, although it seems to be on the driver level and not on the keyboard layout one
- Even when using the faulty bluetooth mode, I achieved some good results in Shadow of War (again, streaming it from my PC by using Moonlight) by reducing the stick deadzones to zero in the game's settings. Why does it work when changing the settings in-game, but not from the keyboard layout file? No idea!
- Can't exclude it could be some quirk in Samsung devices
- I've tried the OTG method just with Moonlight, can't say if the sticks would be fine also with other apps or with devices that natively support Xbox 360 pads
- The sticks are fine when connected to PC, both via USB (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard Xinput, Xbox 360 pad) and, surprisingly, via bluetooth (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard DirectInput pad, I had to try this with the first Dead Rising since most recent games seem to accept Xinput pads only)
- So which other Android pads can work as an Xbox 360 pad when used via USB? Our old friend the PG-9023 doesn't, and neither the STG-ONE (surprisingly, since the PG-9083 seems a relabel of it). PG-9055 also works via USB (but the USB cable must be placed on the left handle, making it impractical to use when connected). Good old PG-9037 also works via USB. Mars Gaming MGP1, nope.
So I hope this was useful and maybe could shed some light in how Android handles gamepads and maybe inspire someone to write some custom driver to fix everything?
Cheers!
I wanted to post up on this thread that I too just received a pg-9083 and tried it out with my nvidia tablet.
It is exactly as brigcam says. The bluetooth mode on Android has the deadzone issue but the PC usb method does not. I did not try PC Bluetooth or Android OTG.
So who would need to fix this??? I emailed iPega but don't expect a helpful resolution. I will try tincore with a rooted tablet i have to see if it can change the deadzones, but I don't want to root my k1.
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Hello everyone,
so, the PG-9083 arrived a couple days ago, but I've found just now the time to write here.
TL;DR: The analogs still suck, unless you connect the pad with an OTG cable and your phone supports Xbox 360 pads
So as soon as the package arrived I connected the pad to an USB cable coming from my PC, and I noticed the pad got recognized as an Xbox 360 controller. Didn't care much about it at that moment, but it actually was an important detail.
So I bluetooth connect the PG-9083 to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and after many tests the conclusion is that the analog sticks still suck. I even rooted the tablet and tried messing up with the keyboard layout files, but even changing the deadzone settings there didn't improve anything.
Then, I don't even remember why, I connected the PG-9083 directly to the Tab S2 with an OTG cable. The tablet didn't recognize the pad (for some reason Samsung didn't include Xbox 360 gamepad drivers in its Tab S2 and its Galaxy S9, which are the two devices that I own), but then I tried starting Moonlight (which is the main reason I'm interested in an Android pad) which has an internal custom Xbox 360 driver, and lo and behold, it worked like a charm, with the analog sticks performing perfectly.
So some final considerations:
- It seems it's a software problem rather than a hardware one, although it seems to be on the driver level and not on the keyboard layout one
- Even when using the faulty bluetooth mode, I achieved some good results in Shadow of War (again, streaming it from my PC by using Moonlight) by reducing the stick deadzones to zero in the game's settings. Why does it work when changing the settings in-game, but not from the keyboard layout file? No idea!
- Can't exclude it could be some quirk in Samsung devices
- I've tried the OTG method just with Moonlight, can't say if the sticks would be fine also with other apps or with devices that natively support Xbox 360 pads
- The sticks are fine when connected to PC, both via USB (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard Xinput, Xbox 360 pad) and, surprisingly, via bluetooth (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard DirectInput pad, I had to try this with the first Dead Rising since most recent games seem to accept Xinput pads only)
- So which other Android pads can work as an Xbox 360 pad when used via USB? Our old friend the PG-9023 doesn't, and neither the STG-ONE (surprisingly, since the PG-9083 seems a relabel of it). PG-9055 also works via USB (but the USB cable must be placed on the left handle, making it impractical to use when connected). Good old PG-9037 also works via USB. Mars Gaming MGP1, nope.
So I hope this was useful and maybe could shed some light in how Android handles gamepads and maybe inspire someone to write some custom driver to fix everything?
Cheers!
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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So, I have tried the Nvidia Controller 2017, and it works great ofc. Don't have any other controllers to try unfortunately.
Other weird things:
1. If I open up my gamepad tester app I can see that the hardware is registering the axis values of the sticks with no deadzone, so the hardware is working properly. So I don't get where in software the deadzone is being enforced. Earlier posters said that changing the .kl files do nothing, and anyways I don't want to root the tablet and lose access to other apps.
2. I connected the controller to my clamshell Nvidia portable and there are no deadzone issues! Admittedly there's no use for the controller in this context but why does it work on this device and not the other??? Is it because of the Android versions?
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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The only reason I can think of is that its trying to emulate a keyboard WASD instead of a joystick or its in some conflict with the keyboard selection when connected via bluetooth. The DS4 controller has no issues with deadzone on the gamepad tester via Bluetooth. Its actualy detected as a wireless gamepad and has a gamepad logo on the bluetooth screen. That being said I can be totally off and android has other issues with bluetooth
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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Its an ipega issue. With xbone controller over Bluetooth there are no analog stock issues. Games control like being played with gamepad on the PC or console.
I'm now using my Shield K1 with a clip that attaches to my xbone controller. Too bad since I like ipega form factor.
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I see that iPega have released an updated version of the PG-9083 controller. Any improvement with this dead zone issue?
I got the PG-9083S (which I assume is the updated version) this afternoon and the dead zones are massive and not configurable in any way obvious to me. Galaxy Tab S6+, tried a bunch of FPS games with steam link and game pass cloud streaming. Playable but very much still an annoyance with this hardware.
Does anyone know if the ROG phone supports this? I want to use the phone in desktop mode, but $230 for the dock sounds insane when there are alternatives for $40. In other words, do generic dongles work for video output or do we need to buy Asus brand?
thechuckychucks said:
Does anyone know if the ROG phone supports this? I want to use the phone in desktop mode, but $230 for the dock sounds insane when there are alternatives for $40. In other words, do generic dongles work for video output or do we need to buy Asus brand?
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Well, it did until I updated the fan firmware.. right now I'm not sure if any HDMI/DP Alternative solution works (including their own) but hopefully they'll fix this soon.. I'm writing an email to asus support about right now.
You can use any of your choice, but just do know they all only do screen mirroring (even the offical Asus ROG ones) so you will be getting a small screen experience just on a larger screen really, so everything will be pretty blown up big style just so you know. The ONLY feature you don't get with unofficial devices is the lack of the keymapper option (that is until someone finds a way to mod/hack/activate that feature hidden from us all), so if you don't care for that then you are good to go with whatever you choose.
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No, it's not working properly. I tried with the Lenovo-USB-C-Dock and two USB-C-Hubs from Aukey.
Asus implemented the DP-Alternate-Mode not correctly, it's not telling the Monitor the Refresh-Rate which leads to weird screen-flickering if ur using an 144Hz-Monitor...
The Keymapping-function keeps hidden and the Phone will not lock into landscape mode. Their own Strix-Fusion-Headset is also not working via USB.
Mathias
I don't think any higher then 90hz refresh rate monitors will work, as I have tried a 90hz free sync (or was it gsync?) Monitor and the sync mode was active too.
Of course the key mapping will stay hidden as their not the official Asus ROG accessory plugged in when having a 3rd party connected with kb+m.
I dunno about your headphones as I don't use the same but I'm using a wireless Sony Pulse 7.1 headset via its wireless signal dongle just fine.
What firmware are you on and which version do you own CN or WW?
So a USB C to display port will work?
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Well, it did until I updated the fan firmware.. right now I'm not sure if any HDMI/DP Alternative solution works (including their own) but hopefully they'll fix this soon.. I'm writing an email to asus support about right now.
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Have you got a link to the cable you were using please?
Is there a cheap dongle available?
Update to my original reply; I did get it to work with a cheap USB-C dongle but I had to remove and re-attach the USB-C power first ( and sometimes the HDMI cable )
.. currently my phone is on service however since a couple of weeks.. and it looks like I managed to be the first to break the screen on this phone in Sweden so nobody knows how to repair it =)
Hi,
I have had a Tab S7 Wifi 128 GB (returned it) and have a Tab S7+ 256 GB 6GB RAM here. I want to use it for streaming games only. I capture on my desktop pc with a AverMedia 4k capture card (but I have 4k and 1080p Elgato cars here as well to test).
I plugin the USB-C Multiport Adapter (EE-P3200) from Samsung and it shows "HDMI connected". Screen mirroring and DEX work, resolution and 60Hz are just fine. But after a few minutes - sometimes more, sometimes less the signal drops with a "HDMI disconnected" message. I have to unplug and plugin the adapter again.
- This happens all the time, on the homescreen, in apps, in games.
- It's not the monitor -> it works with all my devices I have here and I tried
- It's not the adapter -> I also have an Apple adapter, an Aukey adapter and a no-name USB-C to HDMI cable ... all four solutions have the same problem!
- It's not that particular Tab S7(+) -> a brand new S7 and S7+ do the same
- It's not the capture card(s) -> Same behaviour with all 3 cards AND I have an Android Huawei MatepadPro tablet as well as an iPad Pro here that work just fine with all adapters, all cables, all capture cards
I "reset" both the S7 and S7+ even tho both were brand new and sealed. Both were/are on the newest software update from October 1st. The problem existed on the stock software as well.
Any ideas please? The tablet itself is great and the huge screen is simply put amazing. But If I can't use the HDMI output it is useless for me.
yuri624 said:
Hi,
I have had a Tab S7 Wifi 128 GB (returned it) and have a Tab S7+ 256 GB 6GB RAM here. I want to use it for streaming games only. I capture on my desktop pc with a AverMedia 4k capture card (but I have 4k and 1080p Elgato cars here as well to test).
I plugin the USB-C Multiport Adapter (EE-P3200) from Samsung and it shows "HDMI connected". Screen mirroring and DEX work, resolution and 60Hz are just fine. But after a few minutes - sometimes more, sometimes less the signal drops with a "HDMI disconnected" message. I have to unplug and plugin the adapter again.
- This happens all the time, on the homescreen, in apps, in games.
- It's not the monitor -> it works with all my devices I have here and I tried
- It's not the adapter -> I also have an Apple adapter, an Aukey adapter and a no-name USB-C to HDMI cable ... all four solutions have the same problem!
- It's not that particular Tab S7(+) -> a brand new S7 and S7+ do the same
- It's not the capture card(s) -> Same behaviour with all 3 cards AND I have an Android Huawei MatepadPro tablet as well as an iPad Pro here that work just fine with all adapters, all cables, all capture cards
I "reset" both the S7 and S7+ even tho both were brand new and sealed. Both were/are on the newest software update from October 1st. The problem existed on the stock software as well.
Any ideas please? The tablet itself is great and the huge screen is simply put amazing. But If I can't use the HDMI output it is useless for me.
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I just got an update on my AT&T tab S7 5G with November security. Maybe there is a fix coming for this. I have seen Samsung doing USB C updates to devices recently too.
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I just got an update on my AT&T tab S7 5G with November security. Maybe there is a fix coming for this. I have seen Samsung doing USB C updates to devices recently too.
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I just got that update two days ago, but it changed nothing.
I've had about 10 calls with Samsung tech levels 1 and 2. Every call I had to explain every from scratch (even with a case number lol) and every person told me "problem is not known/reported", the last guy I had on the phone told me his colleague (that he was texting with during the call) had multiple customers complain about hdmi disconnects and he (the colleague) was able to reproduce the issue on two S7's himself.
I returned the tablet now as a stable hdmi output is vital for my usecase.
For others having the problem, do you have external power connected to the adapter? Plugging a USB-PD analyzer into the S7 shows it can only source 500mA, which might not be enough for some adapters (especially the ones that are also USB hubs) to work reliably.
So after almost 4 months now I bought a brand new Galaxy Tab S7+ again. New Android version, new OneUI version, same problem.
- 4 different adapters (3 with PD) including the original Samsung EE-P3200
- different HDMI cables (including a 8k certified one)
- issues with a Thomson TV, Sony TV, Asus Monitor, Elgato 1080p capture card, AverMedia 4k capture card
- 3 brand new tablets (S7, S7+ and another S7+)
- all my adapters, cables and devices work 100% fine with: iPad Pro 2017, iPad Air 4, cheap Chinese Windows tablet
Hey yuri. You are not alone. i have the exact same problem. I tryed two different adapters, 3 power brackets. End device is my Elgato Capture card. Tryed it also on my Tv my Beamer and so on... My connection breaks randomly all the time. Its hard to find a solution for this problem.. Tab S7+ 5G
Simak1990 said:
Hey yuri. You are not alone. i have the exact same problem. I tryed two different adapters, 3 power brackets. End device is my Elgato Capture card. Tryed it also on my Tv my Beamer and so on... My connection breaks randomly all the time. Its hard to find a solution for this problem.. Tab S7+ 5G
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although i had a usb c hdmi hub that i bought for my s8 phone (not that long ago) i found it's actually the power source+hub that's the culprit.
i knew it does need power cable too in when hdmi out-ing however i thought that 1.5-2A charge is just fine and since it was a good build quality usb c hdmi hub that it will be just fine as well
it wasn't until i had accubattery confirm while running that even with the stock quick charge brick in, when Dexxing if the tablet screen is on too there's barely 0,4 Amps surplus charging the tablet battery after all the consumptions.
mind you i had external drive+usb mouse+usb keyb all hooked up at once.
either that (orig quick charger adapter from Samsung) did the trick or the other : LEVIN USB C hub i bought from Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083DZ1...abc_A1006ASWRW8EZE438PK9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
but since these two changes my Dexxing is rock solid
at first i thought there's some proprietary trickery is in place that it only works with original Samsung gear (hubs) but i still found these to be too pricey so i got the aforementioned Levin which was of 15.97 gbp inc. posting
hope this helps solving it too
nagymancs said:
although i had a usb c hdmi hub that i bought for my s8 phone (not that long ago) i found it's actually the power source+hub that's the culprit.
i knew it does need power cable too in when hdmi out-ing however i thought that 1.5-2A charge is just fine and since it was a good build quality usb c hdmi hub that it will be just fine as well
it wasn't until i had accubattery confirm while running that even with the stock quick charge brick in, when Dexxing if the tablet screen is on too there's barely 0,4 Amps surplus charging the tablet battery after all the consumptions.
mind you i had external drive+usb mouse+usb keyb all hooked up at once.
either that (orig quick charger adapter from Samsung) did the trick or the other : LEVIN USB C hub i bought from Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083DZ1...abc_A1006ASWRW8EZE438PK9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
but since these two changes my Dexxing is rock solid
at first i thought there's some proprietary trickery is in place that it only works with original Samsung gear (hubs) but i still found these to be too pricey so i got the aforementioned Levin which was of 15.97 gbp inc. posting
hope this helps solving it too
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Well I gave up on the S7(+) long ago already. It did NOT work with the official Samsung power adapter + USB-C adapter.
Also just for testing... I had bought a cheap Samsung Galaxy S5e, and ALL adapters, ALL power bricks, ALL hdmi cables worked with that. Same on a Huawei Matepad Pro and a Lenovo P11 Pro (which I am using now). All my stuff (in every combination) works on all Android tablets (and iPads) that I tried.
And all Samsung "customer support" could tell me after 4 months was "apparently Samsung devices can not suit your needs when using capture cards" (apparently a 1.000 EUR device can not while their 400 EUR tablet can). No comment.