Does Android 9/10 restricts the use of external mic? 3 differents phone brands tested - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi you all, I have been around google and the forum and couldn't find if there is some restriction on Android 9 or 10 for connecting an external microphone to the TRRS 35mm jack.
I know smartphones are TRRS and i have tested TRRS microphones, and also tested with a TRS microphone and TRS to TRRS adapter without not luck. Phones keep recording from their own mic, not the external.
Tested:
Huawei pot-lx1t (android 10)
Vernee X2 (android 9)
DOOGEE S40 (android 9)
None of this 3 phones worked, not with open camera app, default camera app, neither instagram/facebook.
The thing is that the same mics and adapters works fine in 2 old phones with android 6 and 4. (CUBOT Max and Samsung sm-g357fz)
I haven root any phone, do i need to or what am i missing?
I keep finding people talking about the same adapters/microphones that i already purchased several times, and still not luck.
Thanks in advance.

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[Q] Use of external microphone on Android [SOLVED]

Hi..
I have a question on how to get a external microphone to work on my Galaxy Nexus.
For further detail see my full description here:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...rophone-on-my-galaxy-nexus-to-video-recording
Tried to ask in the Galaxy Nexus forum, but no one answered me, and i think the question is also relevant for other phones as well. Thats why i have posted here...
Really hope someone can help me
Thanks
I have found the solution myself...
Look here if you need it too:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...se-a-external-microphone-with-my-galaxy-nexus
which mic do you have?
Use of Ext. Mic on Android when Recording Video [SOLVED]
External Microphones and Video Recording.
The existing thread discussed the solution to the general question of using an external microphone with a combo jack. I however ran into a related problem when I tried to use an external microphone when recording video with the standard camera app.
As noted in the thread above, the first step is using a splitter adapter which splits the signal into two distinct ports - one that can be used for a microphone input connection (mono), and the other for stereo output to a headphone. I used a StarTech MUYHSMFF adapter that cost about $8.00 (US). :good:
This solution worked for straight audio recording as I could indeed record audio. But the solution failed when I tried to record video. Obviously, this meant that the problem was a software problem either in the camera app or in Android itself, as opposed to a hardware problem.
The Asus technical support person suggested that I try a new camera app. I download and tried seven or eight camera apps to no avail. Asus support then suggested that it was a problem in Android and said that I would just have to wait until there was a new version and hope that the problem was addressed.
As I bought my tablet primarily to record and edit video segments, I was not satisfied with this answer.
After an ungodly long search, I came across a site that stated that the IgCamera App was the only camera app to overcome this problem. While I don't know if it is the only app that works, the IgCamera does work and work well.
One minor note. As the combo jack only allows a mono input, I bought a mono cable extension to connect to my lavalier microphone. The only mono cable that I could find was a data transfer cable. Unfortunately, this cable created a major impedance problem: every recording had a loud buzz. I switched to a stereo cable which eliminated the problem. A wireless mic would be even better.
The real solution, of course, is for the manufacturers to provide a separate mic port, something that costs money so they probably won''t did it. A separate mic port would also provide the option of recording in stereo.
A former PBS TV Producer & Total Android Noob
Going Mad with a Asus Transformer TF700T

Headphones not working

Hey all!
I have a Huawei P20 lite and when I plug in my Logitech G231 Prodigy it doesn't recognise it and just uses the speakers. If I use a different headphone it works fine, but I really don't like these cheap things. I've heard about some app called SoundAbout, but it's not compatible with android 8. Also, the headphone works fine in my laptop + old phone & used to work on my P20 lite (which is a month old) but since today it's just not detected. Can anyone please help me out on this?

External Microphone and M20 Pro?

Hi,
Does anyone know if the Mate 20 Pro is compatible with External Mics.
Planning to up my video output next year and also shoot some weddings. I know the Pixel 3 is compatible and was top of my list, but do really like the look of the Mate 20 Pro too.
Would be a USBC > Headphone adapter > RODE Mic with a Gimbal setup.
I assume it is, either through the native app or a 3rd party app, but not seen it confirmed anywhere.
Yes it works. Rode mic, adapter in box to phone.
hi, can i ask? because to me it is no works.
i would like to record video with external MIC..
i buy Rode Videomicro..... and i want use it with USB-C reduction from phone, with Rode.. If i connect, not working....
How can i solve that? Thanks.

Can't use external mic. Apps like Open Camera don't solve it. I have an idea

Thank you in advance for any help on this.
So, I bought my mi8 lite in part for its good enough camera and the ability to make some videos.
My friends recommended my to buy a Boya B1-M1 lapel mic, and I did so.
When I plug this mic ( i need to use that damn usb c dongle that came with the phone ), nothing detects the external mic. I've tried the Open Camera and Cinema FV 5 App and set for external microphones and the problem persists.
On my older Huawei nova, the mic works, so that's not a mic problem.
I'm thinking that the problem is in the xiaomi usb-c dongle, more specifically in the way its jack is wired. I recently learned that there are two ways to wire a phone jack ( OMTP and CTIA ) and different companies might use one or the other. I really want to test this out with a cheap adapter but I don't have one ready and would prefer to see if somebody has had the same idea and if it worked.
Have you faced the same problem?
Thank you!
All the best,
João

Question USB-C to 3.5mm for car auxiliary port

Hello!
I recently picked up a pixel 6, very happy with it so far except for the fact that my car is too old for the bluetooth to carry music to the radio.
I was wondering if anybody has managed to find a type c to 3.5mm cable that works? I have tried a type c to 3.5mm adaptor and it doesn't work, I think I need a straight type c to 3.5mm cable instead of an adaptor?
Before anybody asks, I have an fm transmiter but not really enjoying the experience between static or the bluetooth getting confused with the car itself.
I don't see why a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter shouldn't work. Try finding one on amazon that specifically advertises use in cars. It could be possible that the one you have is incompatible, manufacturers tend to make adapters that only work in specific circumstances.
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
Thank you both.
I have seen this one on Amazon, this is what I need I guess?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KOOPAO-Adapter-Headphone-Stereo-Compatible-Grey/dp/B07Z3TRJKS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=VG53YFREW7S7&keywords=Type+C+to+3.5mm+Stereo+Audio+Cable&qid=1641755818&sprefix=type+c+to+3.5mm+stereo+audio+cable%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4
I use this one:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Y7YXHSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
An alternative if you have 12v power in your car is using a USB Bluetooth to 3.5mm device like this one.
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
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That way you can still be wireless and have Bluetooth in an older car, without having to deal with those hit or miss radio adaptors
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
cervantesjc said:
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
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I thought to do the same but the phone shows that the connected device is not supported
neptun2 said:
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
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Just to clear up what that actually means for OP: a passive adapter will work only on USB-C ports that are able to route an *analog* signal. These are fairly uncommon -- most USB-C ports are digital only.
The nice thing about digital output is that you get to control the sound quality by selecting a USB-DAC of a quality that meets your needs, instead of being limited to whatever cheap thing they built in to the phone.
Physically, you can't even tell the difference any more. While USB-DAC's used to always involve a "big ugly box", the circuitry has shrunk these days to small enough to fit into the ends of the dongle.
The headphone adapter sold by Google is an example of this, its a USB-DAC, but shows no sign of containing any significant components besides the connectors.
I tried one that came with an old Motorola phone and it did not work, but Google sells one. They should be able to confirm if it works before you order it
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter?hl=en-US
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
cervantesjc said:
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
chaimav said:
Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
cervantesjc said:
It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It works on your Pixel 6? Maybe mine is defective??
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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I tried an adapter from a Oneplus 6 (if memory serves) and I had the same problem, hence the thread
Given the one from Google looks just the same I am apprehensive to buy it until I am 100% certain
Today DAC circuits are so small that it is easy to integrate these into the usb type c part of the cable. There is no way to tell if cable is active or passive only by looking at it anymore. Google cable should work fine. Alternatively you can try the trick with first playing through the speakers and then connecting the old oneplus 6 cable and see if that will make it work. ne side note - don't buy the apple usb to 3.5 mm cable. It has very low volume on android (works properly on ios and windows). Tested it myself.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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It would need to be physically wired together like that, which it is definitely not.
It would probably also need a second DAC built in, because there are only so many speakers you can drive with the built-in. That's why some phones are advertised as "dual DAC".
Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Is this for a car aux port or for earphones you use it for?

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