Question Am I the only one? - Lenovo Legion Phone Duel 2

Who bought this phone I mean? It looks like no one seems to care about this phone. Its all over youtube but, everyone seems to be doing the same thing, unboxing it. I was hoping I could get some attention to this phone so I can talk to others. Anyone plan on purchasing this phone? If so, tell me why, if not I also wanna know about that to.

Guess it is still early stage release for this phone, not many ppl got it. Youtube reviewer could get early shipped unit usually.

I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.

I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.

Spyrobuddy said:
I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.
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Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?

toliveforever said:
I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.
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Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.

Phaze1585 said:
Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.
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Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.

toliveforever said:
Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.
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Ive got the Chinese rom but, I gotta be honest, im on the edge of switching back to my 12 Pro Max. I love the customization of android, and unless I start removing apps via ADB I dont think im going to keep the phone. I mean, iPhone has little to no customization but you expect that. When it comes to android, I expect to be able to make my phone the way I want and because of the way Lenovo has the rom set up, I cant seem to do much of anything. I cant fully run Nova Launcher, use Google contacts or Google phone. Lenovo locks everything down so much that it takes all the fun out of it. How do you feel about Legion UI?

I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.

toliveforever said:
I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.
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That would be a thought, instead of just returning the phone. My only issue with that is it takes longer to get updates with the global rom. Do you have global running on your phone or are you using stock?

Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).

I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.

dEFLASH said:
Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).
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dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.

toliveforever said:
I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.
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Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?

Phaze1585 said:
dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.
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Tried a change APN, it's working OK with DATA via 4G only, voice still not working for incoming calls.
About a flashing global ROM afraid to get a brick or lost some parts like fingertip scanner or IMEI.
Anyway send me info in PM or just right there, wanna check it.

Phaze1585 said:
Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?
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I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.

toliveforever said:
I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.
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So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?

Phaze1585 said:
So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?
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I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.

toliveforever said:
I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.
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Interesting. So, were you able to get a launcher to work for you or do you just use the stock laucnher?

Phaze1585 said:
Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?
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I'm in Canada. Using telus only freedom works. I can Hotspot data from the phone because it has hotspot apn settings but not regular ones. Trying to root but I can't get fastboot to detect it.

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[Q] Mobile Data access

Hi,
I have bought an XPeria Z Ultra about 2 weeks ago, and am coming from an iPhone 4. I am quite happy so far except for one thing. Unfortunately, this "thing" is bad enough as to put me off and get me thinking about going back to apple, or possibly to a windows phone.
I have recently changed to a prepaid account with my carrier, and it charges me a given amount whenever I use the mobile network for data. I have tried to limit the usage to Wifi only, but so far, there is always some random app that keeps using 4G - even when I am at home, and connected to wifi.
I have searched for a few days already and have found no way to limit mobile data access on a general basis. So, my question is:
How can I make sure ALL apps access data via wifi whenever they need internet access, regardless of the time? I don't want to use an app to control that, and I have tried all the options I found for data restriction/etc.
Right now what is working for me is exactly that - a woraround, where I have entered a bogus string for data configuration so that the phone simply -cannot- connect at all. But I can't believe that this is the only solution. I just can't.
Looks like the only way is by restricting EACH AND EVERY app. Come to think of it, an OS as popular as this one lacking the means to completely block, in a general way, access to mobile data, is simply incredible.
Anyway, I will leave this here as a rant. iOS has it, Windows has it... Why doesn't Android?
A pity, but I will be looking to switch to some other OS, maybe even back to iOS.
mtrein said:
Looks like the only way is by restricting EACH AND EVERY app. Come to think of it, an OS as popular as this one lacking the means to completely block, in a general way, access to mobile data, is simply incredible.
Anyway, I will leave this here as a rant. iOS has it, Windows has it... Why doesn't Android?
A pity, but I will be looking to switch to some other OS, maybe even back to iOS.
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I have Google Play edition Z Ultra and it has a toggle for data. There is a port of this firmware for Sony phones.
adfurgerson said:
I have Google Play edition Z Ultra and it has a toggle for data. There is a port of this firmware for Sony phones.
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Hi. Thanks for answering. Mine also has a toggle for data, but apps that have a permission to alter the network configuration can (and will) do so. What I believe should be available, as is in other OSs, is a toggle that actually limits that permanently and does not take into account whether an app has permissions or not, as setting permissions individually is a pain (what if I forget to do it when I install a new app, let alone an OS update).
It might not be such a big deal for everyone, but for me it is.

[Q] SM-N900v Verizon Note 3 on Straight Talk AT&T Contacts not working

ok been reading for hours for a third time... this time for more specific fixes/info...
i have a SM-N900v Verizon Note 3 on Straight Talk using AT&T towers.
took a little bit to get the right settings but its up and running. the stock settings on strait talk did not work.
anyways been using it for a few weeks now and for the most part works but here are the issues ide like to solve...
Contacts not working...
numbers comming in all have a + in front of them and are treated as international numbers +xxx-xxx-xxxx. with this the numbers dont match my contacts list so i dont see who is comming in and i cant just hit and call back.
* tried prefixer app doesnt work
* tried many settings in the call settings/assisted dialing there were 2 settings that seem3ed wrong and i fixed an left...city/area code was 157 i set 570 and national number length was 11 i set to 10
* Installed Twitch Contacts and had it clean up and change all my contacts to (National Format) (xxx) xxx-xxxx and all my incomming calls had contact names!! i thought i solved it... but not only did those calls call out as international but all my contacts anyplace did.. (sigh) so switched my contacts back to (International Format) +1 xxx-xxx-xxxx then i can dial fine but incomming numbers dont show or match up with my contacts again and they dial as internation calls.
* Changed fr4om global to manual and chose the at&t tower. nope.. changed back.
another issue
Phone Activation this sim card is from an unknown source...
i can kill it but comes back everytijme i start. can this be my issue with contacts? maybe it thinks im from outside usa since it can id the sim?
and...
Voice Mail Update...
Wont Go Away!!!! i have to kill it!!!
im not dumb... maybe real ignorant concerning cell phones... i have a computer repair shop and been in business 18+ years and i need to learn alot more since phones and tablets seem to be the computers of the future... and im already doing screen repairs but i need to learn more... so here i am... learn me =]
Not sure about the solution for the contacts, but for the SIM notification, if you are rooted, then you can freeze the VZW Setup Wizard app and that'll kill that. It might even help with the other situation, though not sure. If you aren't rooted, then killing it after each reboot is the only option.
es0tericcha0s said:
Not sure about the solution for the contacts, but for the SIM notification, if you are rooted, then you can freeze the VZW Setup Wizard app and that'll kill that. It might even help with the other situation, though not sure. If you aren't rooted, then killing it after each reboot is the only option.
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ive never rooted a phone. can i trust towelroot? and what measures do i need to take to secure myself after i root?
it seems like after i root my note 3 there sould be a config file someplace i can change that would remove the + or at least set it to +1 wich i also think might fix this.
Jabooma said:
ive never rooted a phone. can i trust towelroot? and what measures do i need to take to secure myself after i root?
it seems like after i root my note 3 there sould be a config file someplace i can change that would remove the + or at least set it to +1 wich i also think might fix this.
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Yea, Towelroot is safe. It only works on those phones with the kernel date that is June or older. You'll want to install SuperSu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu so apps can't get root permissions without you allowing it. You'll probably need to use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux if freezing or renaming the apk (I don't recommend uninstalling because you might need it again later) doesn't stick after rebooting. If you are worried about root after that (I wouldn't, but personal preference), you should be able to uninstall everything and use SuperSU to unroot and nothing else will be affected. This method won't trip Knox so your warranty won't be affected.
but i still havent found a fix for this... does anyone have know what files i need to edeit to fix this?

MMS not downloaded, 'tap to retry', T-Mo V30

I keep getting an error whenever someone sends me a picture message, saying the message was not downloaded, tap to retry. Tapping to retry does nothing, and then I'll get the same error notification several times a day, until I just go and delete the failed picture download. In many or all cases tho, the picture actually does download. I'm on T-Mobile but haven't had this error for years on several different phones..... just the Tmo V30. Anyone else?
I'm getting the same thing on my T-Mobile V30+ is super annoying. I have no idea what is causing it.
Have either of you disabled anything using a package disabler or ADB?
ChazzMatt said:
Have either of you disabled anything using a package disabler or ADB?
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I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
YrrchSebor said:
I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
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My TMobile V30+ delays texts of all kinds. IDK why and it happens at random. My z2 force hasn't delayed any since I've gotten it.
20degrees said:
My TMobile V30+ delays texts of all kinds. IDK why and it happens at random. My z2 force hasn't delayed any since I've gotten it.
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You know, I have noticed a delay at times on sending sms too!
YrrchSebor said:
I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
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No, disabling Android Pay by using settings in the phone wouldn't cause that issue with texts.
The only reason I'm asking if because a few times when people have complained about stuff not working -- like Always On Display and other things -- turns out they used package disabler or ADB (using the same vague package disabler descriptions) to disable/remove what they thought was "bloatware" but was really stuff they wanted to work.
Or caused severe lag, because the phone apparently looks for what's missing before giving up. It's ironic people are slowing their own phones down...
1) a lot of things are interconnected.
2) true bloatware isn't labelled "this is useless", with important stuff labeled "this is important".
Right now there's a case where a guy and his wife both have T-Mobile LG V30, on T-Mobile with the same plan, same exact firmware. But one has VoLTE grayed out while the other doesn't, and one dialer doesn't show voicemail icon while the other does. He used the package disabler to disable some services and apps, but we don't know why they're different if he disabled the same things? He also doesn't know what to re-enable to get everything back.
But it sounds like that's not the reason in your case.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
No, disabling Android Pay by using settings in the phone wouldn't cause that issue with texts.
The only reason I'm asking if because a few times when people have complained about stuff not working -- like Always On Display and other things -- turns out they used package disabler or ADB (using the same vague package disabler descriptions) to disable remove what they thought was "bloatware" but was really stuff they wanted to work.
Or caused severe lag, because the phone apparently looks for what's missing before giving up. It's ironic people are slowing their own phones down...
1) a lot of things are interconnected.
2) true bloatware isn't labelled "this is useless" with important stuff labeled "this is important"
Right now there's a case where a guy and his wife both have T-Mobile LG V30, on T-Mobile with the same plan, same exact firmware. But one has VoLTE grayed out and one dialer doesn't show voicemail icon while the other does. He used the package disabler to disable some services and apps, but we don't know why they're different if he disabled the same things? He also doesn't know what to re-enable to get everything back.
But it sounds like that's not the reason in your case.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Yes, gotcha. I've kinda been there, done that haha. In the past. These days I don't do much to my phone, just let it be and work like normal. Well, hopefully it works anyway
Same issue on T-Mobile v30+.... sometimes MMS/photos fail and offers "retry" only to fail again.... doesn't happen all the time....usually on 5 or more mb images.
What's strange is that it seems like I sometimes get the picture AND a failed message. Like if somebody sends me two pictures, I'll get the two pictures and two failed messages. So I'll I wonder if maybe they sent me four pictures, but when I ask they tell me they sent me two. Weird
YrrchSebor said:
I keep getting an error whenever someone sends me a picture message, saying the message was not downloaded, tap to retry. Tapping to retry does nothing, and then I'll get the same error notification several times a day, until I just go and delete the failed picture download. In many or all cases tho, the picture actually does download. I'm on T-Mobile but haven't had this error for years on several different phones..... just the Tmo V30. Anyone else?
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I was not able to receive any mms messages until I added my phone number in the advanced tab of the stock messaging app.
If you haven't tried this, maybe it's worth a shot.
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I was not able to receive any mms messages until I added my phone number in the advanced tab of the stock messaging app.
If you haven't tried this, maybe it's worth a shot.
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Where exactly in the advanced tab did you put your phone number?
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Where exactly in the advanced tab did you put your phone number?
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Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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Interesting. In the stock messaging app, I don't see anything like that. T-Mobile V30, H93210d, Android 7.1.2
fclifton said:
Interesting. In the stock messaging app, I don't see anything like that. T-Mobile V30, H93210d, Android 7.1.2
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Claro Puerto Rico V30 LGH932PR nougat 7.1.2
poncespr said:
Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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This doesn't look like the stock V30 messaging app? At least not the one on my T-Mobile V30 either. Reminds me of the Google messaging app?
YrrchSebor said:
This doesn't look like the stock V30 messaging app? At least not the one on my T-Mobile V30 either. Reminds me of the Google messaging app?
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It's a carrier locked phone from Claro latin America. They seem to be using mostly stock google apps except for the dialer. Gallery and music have both LG and Google versions.. I have not used any other V30 so I thought all other carrier versions were the same.
poncespr said:
It's a carrier locked phone from Claro latin America. They seem to be using mostly stock google apps except for the dialer. Gallery and music have both LG and Google versions.. I have not used any other V30 so I thought all other carrier versions were the same.
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Ah gotcha, interesting. The models I've seen here in the states have all LG apps
Same thing here
Hey all. I have had the same issue from the first week I got both my V30's and I am on T-Mobile as well. I went to the store and they tried every troubleshooting step they could and tried every combination of settings. I am using the stock messaging app and even with a third party google messages app, it still happens so I think it's a T-Mobile issue. They had tech support call me which was not very helpful because they tried doing the same steps the store did and I should mention I worked for Verizon Tech for ten years so I kind of know my way around a phone. I went and completed a master reset and restored nothing at all, and it still happened. I changed the sim like T-Mobile said and still the same. I connected my phone to my PC and used LG software upgrade and repair tool after the new software was available and still the same. Went back to the store and they are going to send me a warranty replacement even though it is happening on both my phones. T-Mobile is not acknowledging this issue and if this warranty replacement has the same problem, I will take it to the next step and report it to the BBB.
Any updates? Having same issues. Changed sms to mms and vice versa but still no change. Picture messages fail to download regardless of size even at 900 kb. People say they get my messages 5-10 minutes after I send to them. My group messages seem to be on a huge delay in receiving and sending.
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Honor 8x Can't change launcher/ pie controls and vpn not running in background

I just got my 8x in the mail today, love it for the most part, but there are a couple things that are really bugging me about it.
I cant seem to change the launcher no matter what I do. I just don't have the option in the default apps. I've tried multiple different launchers. I also use Pie controls and a vpn. They run in the background when I have the app open. but if I close it I can't get it to stay running silently in the background like I was able to do with all my other phones. I've tried hitting the lock icon on the app when I hit the square and the apps come up.
I have tried allowing it to run in the background using the phone manager. I have turned on ignore battery optimization. I have tried adding the apps as trusted apps. I have tried factory reset after factory reset. I am at a loss. Please, let me know if this is an issue that only I am having, or if this is a problem with emui in general. I am tearing my hair out at this point, and I am going to return the damn thing if I can't get this to work.
Android is about customization, and it seems as if they are trying to strip that ability from us. Navigating my phone is a pain in the butt now, and I don't really know what else to do other than return it, unless someone knows something that I don't.
Thanks.
I have been using the Honor 8x for about a week now. The first thing I did was install Nova Launcher, and I had absolutely not problem doing that.
Not only did the screen pop up after the installation to choose my default app, but there is also the option in Default Apps to set it there as well. See screenshot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HPPuTjWvFjTGwB270JkpZczg_2qiFTUu
I also had minor issues with apps closing when put in the background, but I turned off the feature, and don't seem to be having those problems anymore. You can change that in Settings -> Battery -> App Launch
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BuKGijCvg9KtyT4jo2Al0WaDE7hougL6
One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note is that Honor 8x devices released in different regions have slight differences when it comes to software.
For example, I was watching an Indian review video on youtube, and they were talking about System Navigation, and in his Honor 8x, there was an option to use the iPhone like gestures for navigation. In my Pakistani unit that option isn't there at all.
So do bear this in mind. Have you tried running software update to see if there are any updates/bug fixes for your phone?
Diabolical_Mir said:
I have been using the Honor 8x for about a week now. The first thing I did was install Nova Launcher, and I had absolutely not problem doing that.
Not only did the screen pop up after the installation to choose my default app, but there is also the option in Default Apps to set it there as well. See screenshot.
I also had minor issues with apps closing when put in the background, but I turned off the feature, and don't seem to be having those problems anymore. You can change that in Settings -> Battery -> App Launch
One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note is that Honor 8x devices released in different regions have slight differences when it comes to software.
For example, I was watching an Indian review video on youtube, and they were talking about System Navigation, and in his Honor 8x, there was an option to use the iPhone like gestures for navigation. In my Pakistani unit that option isn't there at all.
So do bear this in mind. Have you tried running software update to see if there are any updates/bug fixes for your phone?
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I have the Chinese version of the phone, Model number JSN-AL00a I had it imported into the USA. The first thing that I did with the device is factory reset it and use the gms installer And yes, the first thing that I did after that was update the phone. I think the first thing I am going to do when I get home is try downgrading the device or reinstalling the firmware using hiSuite if that's even an option. Do you know if it is possible to install a different region on it?
Also the data is locked to 2G for my provider but I rarely use data, so I really don't care about that. Was hoping maybe I could do a kernal update and unlock some US friendly bands. But I know the bootloader can't be unlocked so that's a pipe dream.
I guess when I get home from work I will try the downgrade, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do in the meantime let me know.
Thanks.
doesntfazer said:
I have the Chinese version of the phone, Model number JSN-AL00a I had it imported into the USA. The first thing that I did with the device is factory reset it and use the gms installer And yes, the first thing that I did after that was update the phone. I think the first thing I am going to do when I get home is try downgrading the device or reinstalling the firmware using hiSuite if that's even an option. Do you know if it is possible to install a different region on it?
Also the data is locked to 2G for my provider but I rarely use data, so I really don't care about that. Was hoping maybe I could do a kernal update and unlock some US friendly bands. But I know the bootloader can't be unlocked so that's a pipe dream.
I guess when I get home from work I will try the downgrade, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do in the meantime let me know.
Thanks.
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I'm sorry I have no idea how your would go about downgrading the firmware on the honor 8x.
Honestly, the phone has been globally released, and I would return that Chinese unit, and get the global retail version if possible in USA, or at least get an EU market unit.
Also, it might be possible to upgrade the firmware with a global version, but I have no clue how to go about doing that.
it is entirely possible that the Chinese variant is intentionally set to not allow you to change the launcher, although I am just guessing.
EDIT: The version I have, the build number is JSN-L22 8.2.0.101 (C185).
Diabolical_Mir said:
I'm sorry I have no idea how your would go about downgrading the firmware on the honor 8x.
Honestly, the phone has been globally released, and I would return that Chinese unit, and get the global retail version if possible in USA, or at least get an EU market unit.
Also, it might be possible to upgrade the firmware with a global version, but I have no clue how to go about doing that.
it is entirely possible that the Chinese variant is intentionally set to not allow you to change the launcher, although I am just guessing.
EDIT: The version I have, the build number is JSN-L22 8.2.0.101 (C185).
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Looks like the global version doesn't support enough bands for me to use it in the USA effectively. Oh well. If I can't get it figured out tonight I am going to send it back. The retailer I bought it off on Ebay already sent me a return shipping label. So we will see what's going on tonight. Worst case I have to go back to my crappy lg v10 until I can find something else. Any suggestions on a different mid-budget phone just in case I have to send this one back?
Thanks
doesntfazer said:
Looks like the global version doesn't support enough bands for me to use it in the USA effectively. Oh well. If I can't get it figured out tonight I am going to send it back. The retailer I bought it off on Ebay already sent me a return shipping label. So we will see what's going on tonight. Worst case I have to go back to my crappy lg v10 until I can find something else. Any suggestions on a different mid-budget phone just in case I have to send this one back?
Thanks
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Nokia 7 plus, the Nokia 6.1 Plus with stock android and unlockable bootloader is a good option in the midrange segment.
Mi A2 is decent, but has it's drawbacks like no headphone jack, and a fairly small (3080 mah) battery by today's standards.
The Mi Redmi Note 5 pro and the Mi Redmi Note 6 pro are also good, but come with MIUI which may not appeal to many. You can put your own custom launcher, but some people prefer stock.
So nothing I did worked, and I couldn't change the region. But I did notice that even after a factory reset of the phone that google services stayed on the phone. I know this is a long shot, but is it possible that the gms installer corrupted something? if so, how would I go about uninstalling?
Thank You, I too had this launcher problem ... but now when I make it default, it is forcing me to add a screen password/pin. Not allowing me to install without a pin/password. This is irritating.
doesntfazer said:
I have the Chinese version of the phone, Model number JSN-AL00a I had it imported into the USA. The first thing that I did with the device is factory reset it and use the gms installer And yes, the first thing that I did after that was update the phone. I think the first thing I am going to do when I get home is try downgrading the device or reinstalling the firmware using hiSuite if that's even an option. Do you know if it is possible to install a different region on it?
Also the data is locked to 2G for my provider but I rarely use data, so I really don't care about that. Was hoping maybe I could do a kernal update and unlock some US friendly bands. But I know the bootloader can't be unlocked so that's a pipe dream.
I guess when I get home from work I will try the downgrade, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do in the meantime let me know.
Thanks.
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I also have the Chinese version of the phone with the same model number. I can't change my default launcher to any launcher i download either. There's no button to do it. Can you let me know if you're able to do it?
doesntfazer said:
I have the Chinese version of the phone, Model number JSN-AL00a I had it imported into the USA. The first thing that I did with the device is factory reset it and use the gms installer
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Hi doesntfazer,
would you be so kind to tell me where did you download your GMS installer? Have you got that link, yet?
My Chinese phone is JSN-AL00a just like your: I downloaded and installed so many packages of GMS installer, but none of them did worked for me.
10x in advance
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Solved! (Thanks, btw)
I found a solution here: https://youtu.be/FubclG3t-3A
(important was the answer of ED KAN user: he made my day!)
pausethegame said:
I also have the Chinese version of the phone with the same model number. I can't change my default launcher to any launcher i download either. There's no button to do it. Can you let me know if you're able to do it?
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I had to send it back. I couldn't get it working
My phone is Honor 8X Max. After installing ARE-AL00 8.2.0.134(C00) I can't change luncher. No option to set launcher here: Settings->Apps and notifications->Default apps. Any idea to get this option back or how back to previous firmware?
This is ridiculous. I have the same problem and I am at a total loss. This is complete bull****.... I can set a Dozent of Default Apps. But the launcher option is completely missing... Wtf
Is there a way to bypass the default huawei launcher? on the ARE-AL00 8.2.0.134 (C00) Build?
Okay nvrmind, i found what i was looking for guide-remove-apps-bloat-adb-root tread carefully tho, since removing somne stuff can result in a brick.
Also this prodcedure to get another launcher to be enabled permanently is only needed on a Chinese Rom.... furthermore make sure you have the 3rd party launcher of your choice installed prior to remocing stuff ...
I removed
com.huawei.android.launcher
com.huawei.vdrive
com.huawei.vassistant
that did the trick for me, at least for now ... Nova gets picked up as only Launcher and all is dandy, also vassistant removes the chinese voice helper thing, so you can run google assistant with a long press on the middle menu button ....
For further reference on what to remove check these Links ( pasted from the afforementioned Thread) credit for these links belong to mattrask i just put them here for easier acces
https://post.smzdm.com/p/625233/
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/h...-9.869797.html
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hon...fe-to-t3700814
Onecton said:
Also this prodcedure to get another launcher to be enabled permanently is only needed on a Chinese Rom.... furthermore make sure you have the 3rd party launcher of your choice installed prior to remocing stuff ...
I removed
com.huawei.android.launcher
that did the trick for me, at least for now ... Nova gets picked up as only Launcher and all is dandy
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I have installed Apex Launcher and if I remove com.huawei.android.launcher then will always run Apex Launcher when I press the middle navigation button?
Hooray!
I was succeeded changing the launcher!
Although it was very difficult ...
I am sorry that I am not good at English because I am Japanese.
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Be sure to install the launcher software, you want to use first.
<I use the Microsoft launcher>
After that,
From PC,
the command
"adb shell pm disable-user com.huawei.android.launcher"
send.
It is safer than uninstallation.
By the way it is necessary to set the "developer mode" and set the USB debug mode etc.
However, a concrete method, that is, how to connect to a PC, how to send an adb command, etc., is omitted here.
The launcher that was originally included remains in the body without being erased so it is safer than uninstallation.
When installing multiple launchers, at this point, you will see a selection screen of which launcher to use.
Please be aware that when you open the default application settings screen, the original launcher is restored. Conversely, it is safe as you can restore it.
I am sending comfortable everyday without witnessing the launcher that was originally included. Of course, the home button will call the desired launcher.
Yoshioka S said:
From PC,
the command
"adb shell pm disable-user com.huawei.android.launcher"
send.
It is safer than uninstallation.
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It works, but after restarting phone, again back 'huawei launcher'. Is there way to disable 'huawei launcher' without using PC?
I found bug. If I disable com.huawei.android.launcher, then not work 'ultra power saving mode'.
Matteo Mit. said:
Hi doesntfazer,
would you be so kind to tell me where did you download your GMS installer? Have you got that link, yet?
My Chinese phone is JSN-AL00a just like your: I downloaded and installed so many packages of GMS installer, but none of them did worked for me.
10x in advance
--- EDIT
Solved! (Thanks, btw)
I found a solution here: https://youtu.be/FubclG3t-3A
(important was the answer of ED KAN user: he made my day!)
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Hi
I am having the same problem of not being able to change the default launcher. Mine is Chinese version with Google play installed already. It came today.
How to change the default launcher? I shall be thankful.
Hi,
I was not able too: there are so many problems with it, (as I read in other topics), that I have decided to wait.
Actually, I was only able to install on my device the entire Google world.
Inviato dal mio JSN-AL00a utilizzando Tapatalk
Launcher Options after update
Hi there, I got the Honor 8xMax and I was able to at first change the launcher, then after a software update, the option to change was gone, NOW after another update, the option is BACK but it says "You will not be able to switch back to a third-party launcer if you swithch to Huawei Home." I havent switched to Huawei Home after the update and the other launcers I have are there but they arent lit up for me to chose and the one that's lit up says Drawer Home. What can I do to choose Microsft Launcher? If I do a factory reset and start over, how can I get Microsoft Launder to be my default?
misswham said:
I got the Honor 8xMax and I was able to at first change the launcher, then after a software update, the option to change was gone, NOW after another update, the option is BACK but it says "You will not be able to switch back to a third-party launcer if you swithch to Huawei Home."
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Exactly that same for me.
I was looking for help on Internet and I did not find it.
Now I have a shortcut to the Apex Launcher at the bottom of the main screen. When I press the center navigation button, then I immediately click on the shortcut. I double click to make Apex Launcher appear.

V30 update to pie, lost all homescreen configs and no black navigation bar

Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
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From what I noticed, the navigation bar can be set black with a black theme, however, it still becomes white in certain apps (eg. Chrome).
I didn't see a way to make it black universally.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
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After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
Edvin73 said:
After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
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surprised of how awfull it is to restore an android phone?
there are so many apps (like home banking) that are linked to the phone and cannot be backed up... I try to avoid that. But I guess it is time to switch to Samsung S10 soon was hoping to wait a little longer till the prices go down.....
but the pie update also seems to drain my battery even faster. what a mess
carlaron said:
surprised of how awfull it is to restore an android phone?
there are so many apps (like home banking) that are linked to the phone and cannot be backed up... I try to avoid that. But I guess it is time to switch to Samsung S10 soon was hoping to wait a little longer till the prices go down.....
but the pie update also seems to drain my battery even faster. what a mess
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Well, the battery drain is just another reason to factory reset and it's kinda ironic that you'll have to set your new phone anyway.I told you to factory reset because I solved a lot of problems on my phones through the years after major updates. It's not mandatory but very advisable. At the end it's your phone and your will to do it and set it again.
Edvin73 said:
Well, the battery drain is just another reason to factory reset and it's kinda ironic that you'll have to set your new phone anyway.I told you to factory reset because I solved a lot of problems on my phones through the years after major updates. It's not mandatory but very advisable. At the end it's your phone and your will to do it and set it again.
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it is probably what I have to d. but it sure makes it easier to move away from a 15 month old phone.... I just didn't expect LG pushing me away. I was loyal for some time, and I really think this is one of the most beautiful phones of its time; but it sure does not perform well (anymore).
is there any "small" cache reset that will not delete everything?
in case it is interesting for someone:
Last SOT test from a few days ago (before the update) was 4:45 with normal use, mostly indoors, which is not great, but good enough, since I use my phone alot and sometimes charge 2-3 times a day.
will try a regular test with pie in a few days, but I am too busy to have it under similar conditions...
Edvin73 said:
After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
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This. It's a new UI and UX, clean install is not difficult thanks to Google backup. I will definitely do a clean install.
Trickymaster said:
This. It's a new UI and UX, clean install is not difficult thanks to Google backup. I will definitely do a clean install.
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a clean install is actually difficult; (as well as to switching to other brand phones)
- my messaging apps loose all there messages (some have manual backup)
- banking apps loose there unique keys -> need to be reauthorized with the bank
- two factor auth apps need to carefully be restored
...
of course if you have a few plain games that are cloud synced, this does not matter; but if you actually use the phone it is not so easy to restore all data; (especially ensuring that nothing of importance gets lost)
I will go as far as wipe cache partition i/o factory reset. Every phone has it flaws at some point.
sure.
its just bad that there is not a streamlined backup method; LGs "mobile switch" is a mess, and gets stuck regularly on messaging apps with many files(?)
best results with preinstalled apps was actually with Huawei/honor; they seem to work quite well (but I don't like there aggressive power management)
I don't like to reset a phone before I have everything setup in a different phone (2 factor etc...) because I would hate to loose data and money.
so now I either get a cheap crap phone; or another LGV30 (cheap as hell at the moment, but getting old), or a new samsung, which I didn't plan on before autumn and new phones released....
carlaron said:
a clean install is actually difficult; (as well as to switching to other brand phones)
- my messaging apps loose all there messages (some have manual backup)
- banking apps loose there unique keys -> need to be reauthorized with the bank
- two factor auth apps need to carefully be restored
...
of course if you have a few plain games that are cloud synced, this does not matter; but if you actually use the phone it is not so easy to restore all data; (especially ensuring that nothing of importance gets lost)
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I had the same struggles you have. :laugh:
Ultimately I had to give up and switch back to Android Messenger. It backs up all messages. For 2-factor authentication I use Authy so it can restore my codes from the cloud. But you are correct, I use Android on my Chromebook and setup a 2nd two factor method (email) in my accounts before I reset my phone. I'm annoyed by games, I had to restart so many already even though Google Play Games promises to save the progress. Hope you find another way.
carlaron said:
it is probably what I have to d. but it sure makes it easier to move away from a 15 month old phone.... I just didn't expect LG pushing me away. I was loyal for some time, and I really think this is one of the most beautiful phones of its time; but it sure does not perform well (anymore).
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This is pretty much mandatory on any device. When flashing a new OS zip in TWRP, it's always a clean install. 7-8 and 8-9.
Even if not rooted and take an OTA, you either have to let the update settle or just factory reset. I've seen MANY people throughout the years on XDA complain about the newest OS version.
The general reply will always be factory reset.
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carlaron said:
I don't like to reset a phone before I have everything setup in a different phone (2 factor etc...) because I would hate to loose data and money.
so now I either get a cheap crap phone; or another LGV30 (cheap as hell at the moment, but getting old), or a new samsung, which I didn't plan on before autumn and new phones released....
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You are very misinformed here. 2factor will just send you a text. If you are that worried, turn it off till you setup the device again.
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BROKEN1981 said:
You are very misinformed here. 2factor will just send you a text. If you are that worried, turn it off till you setup the device again.
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I have severa websites that are set up to use 2 factor authentification. If I delete the app before I remove 2factor on those sites or set it up new, I am looked out.
If I loose the key to interpret the text correctly I am ****ed
Where am I misinformed? elaborate
I noticed that the PIE update fixed issues with the camera; that pictures would not get saved, when closing the app (too fast) after taking a picture.
carlaron said:
I noticed that the PIE update fixed issues with the camera; that pictures would not get saved, when closing the app (too fast) after taking a picture.
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And we told you to stop doing that. The fix for that was to leave the camera open in the background, until the camera finished its process.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-photos-saving-quick-exit-camera-t3894278
You were taking a picture and immediately force closing the camera before the HDR function could finish.
You also complained about the January update to AOD.
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carlaron said:
I have severa websites that are set up to use 2 factor authentification. If I delete the app before I remove 2factor on those sites or set it up new, I am looked out.
If I loose the key to interpret the text correctly I am ****ed
Where am I misinformed? elaborate
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You are misinformed because pretend this is a new phone you are setting up.
How would you go about that? You would use the same two factor authentication on the new phone. You can't say two factor authentication wouldn't work on new phone or nobody could ever get a new phone...
Plus, there are SMS Backup and restore apps. WhatsApp has cloud backup if you turn it on Many messaging apps like Hangouts sync across different devices.
If you're rooted, there's TWRP and Titanium Backup -- where you can restore data to ALL apps.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
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1) I use Nova launcher and periodically export configuration backups to Gmail or Google Drive. You can also store them on your device, like microSD card. At any point in time, on this phone or another, then you can download and restore those home screens/desktops. I have 5 screens with apps arranged by most use (home screen), spreading out then by categories.
2) A little too late now, but Google also makes backups of your home screen configuration and when you Factory Reset your phone or buy a new phone, and you first sign in, Google will ask if you wish to restore that most recent configuration remembered from your most recent device. However, by this point in time, Google has now backed up the "new" Pie configuration you do not want. This is why you should have factory reset at the very beginning.
So... No one mentioned LG backup here? I find it suprisingly good
Mrxyzl said:
So... No one mentioned LG backup here? I find it suprisingly good
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It really is!!
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