General Be careful! There are two types of screens! - Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G

I bought a mi 11 lite 5G a few days ago, and it's a great phone. On the other hand, I thought the screen was not great, I felt like everything was blurry compared to my old Samsung A5 2016 (also having a 1080p amoled).
After asking around on Reddit, it looks like Xiaomi is using two different screen suppliers, with two different technologies.
The video below explains it perfectly well.
So it is possible to come across a "PenTile" (or diamond) screen, a classic for AMOLED, or else a "RGB Delta" screen.
The problem with the "RGB Delta" is that it is not as sharp as a "PenTile" because of its pixel layout. We can clearly see a drop in terms of definition and display sharpness. It is especially visible on the text (see photo below, Rgb Delta on the right)
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I'm really disappointed with Xiaomi, either you get a good screen or a not so good one... I tried to contact the support to have more information, but without more.

thanks for the information! That is unfortunate. Maybe these screens are split along regions? The 780G 5G mi 11 lite comes in China and global versions (former network bands are slightly different in both 4g and 5g). Is yours a global, EU version or the China version? Device name MZB08JXEU 5G EU or M2101K9G 5G Global or M2101K9C 5G China? Am not 100% clear on whether the EU actually differs from the global.

Ohhh snap!
Mine is waiting on my desk to be setted up
I'll keep you updated

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thanks for the information! That is unfortunate. Maybe these screens are split along regions? The 780G 5G mi 11 lite comes in China and global versions (former network bands are slightly different in both 4g and 5g). Is yours a global, EU version or the China version? Device name MZB08JXEU 5G EU or M2101K9G 5G Global or M2101K9C 5G China? Am not 100% clear on whether the EU actually differs from the global.
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My device name is M2101K9G (from French Xiaomi Store)

How could one tell the difference ? Preferably without a microscope ? Is there a specific HW number that indicates it ?

if you have good eyes, it's visible when you are close, but otherwise no i don't know :/

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My device name is M2101K9G (from French Xiaomi Store)
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I have the same model, i don't use it right now, but soon. I'll give you my feedback soon
The thing with your A5 (2016) is that the pixel density is a bit higher. Also i remember my dad has this A5 (2016), and I was impressed with the quality of the screen

@fegone My girlfriend, has a Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (with 403 dpi, ~ same as Mi 11 lite) is much sharper than my phone.

I ordered one today. I hope I can spot the display type. I'm gonna send it back if it's not the pentile. I use my phones for 5-6 years so I want the good ****

Hi, I can't see evidence of what display model has my mi 11 lite 5g.
I ordered in mi.com (Spain), special edition (MFF, Mi Fan Festival edition) 8G/128G black.
I compared with my wife mi 9T and mi 11 lite 5g looks equal or better, not worse.
Don't know if i have the good display or simply I can't appreciate it.

@vanpopel With the zoom of the mi9T, it should be possible to take a picture of the screen of the mi 11 lite, and see the pixel structure of it

on my M2101K9G i have a rgb delta, the definition is different than my pixel, but on a daily usage, like 20cm from your eyes, is unnoticable, maybe I have bad eyes.
Anyways, I wll return my device, the speakers are awful, the camera is below average, and the screen is too big for me, I have a pixel 3a... I prefer compact phones.

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@vanpopel With the zoom of the mi9T, it should be possible to take a picture of the screen of the mi 11 lite, and see the pixel structure of it
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What are best conditions to take the picture? Black text and white background??

@vanpopel Yes, you can send the picture here

i got an M2101K9G, bought from mistore Germany (distributed from netherlands) and made a picture. it looks somewhat diamond shaped?

@Pseudo12 Nope, it looks like RGB Delta.
Diamond is more noticeable on red color, like this :

I have bad pulse zooming x10

Ahi va otra

@vanpopel, ok it's like me, RGB Delta (there is no "dot" like with PenTile).
So it seems to be very common, well here in Europe...
EDIT: And now I see that my screen is already burned.... (by 1h 1/2 of Waze use, 75% brightness)... wtf?
You can see it at the top and bottom (it's faint but clearly visible IRL)

@Xelycs
I am seeing some reviews on the web of different smartphones and they say pentile matrix resolution when screen is showing blue or red pixels is smaller than RGB, and image in RGB displays is sharper.
I haven't deep knowledge of screen technologies, and I suspect not only pentile or RGB information is enough to measure display quality. I mean, there may be good or bad RGB displays and good or bad pentile ones ¿?.
Is the RGB implementation of our screen so bad? Or it can be considered good display, and pentile excelent display? Or our RGB display is completely trash?

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Does Dark Grey variant of Note 3 SD has Yellow screen tint as compared to Gold/Silve?

Hi there,
I want to buy a Redmi Note 3. I liked the Dark Grey variant. But then I saw on MIUI forums that Dark Grey variant has cheap screen, which were used in Note 2 and it got yellowish tint.
http://en.miui.com/thread-264272-1-1.html
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So, a question to all the users having Dark Grey variant. Is it true?
And a question to Gold/Silver users. Do you got yellow screen phone by chance.
You can notice the yellow tint by comparing it with another phone.
I have the Dark Grey and screen looks white as white can get, but just like the FP sensor GOODIX vs FPC I am sure they also switch up the LCD panels and I doubt it's color specific.
Mine has a tianma nt35596 panel, I compared whites to my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (which is known for having one of the best screens), and the xiaomi is actually brighter white
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otyg said:
I have the Dark Grey and screen looks white as white can get, but just like the FP sensor GOODIX vs FPC I am sure they also switch up the LCD panels and I doubt it's color specific.
Mine has a tianma nt35596 panel, I compared whites to my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (which is known for having one of the best screens), and the xiaomi is actually brighter white
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Yup, they're using two screen manufactures in Redmi Note 3. Not sure about their names though. When & from where did you purchase your Note 3? Are you from India? Which variant you got? 16GB or 32GB?
So, they've put different FP sensors as well?! Oh no.
How did you see that your phone has tianma nt35596 panel? What would I do, if want the phone as same panel as you?
Sorry for these several questions. Actually, I want to buy a phone without this screen issue. Any help would be appreciated.
See, even Gold has yellow tint. So, it's not about color. Actually, Xiaomi has put different screens randomly in Note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/help/yellowish-tintsnapdragon-t3364501
That user has tianma_nt35596 as well. WTF?!!!
I heard, Xiaomi have put different temp. variants according to phone colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66518268&postcount=15
AtomR said:
Yup, they're using two screen manufactures in Redmi Note 3. Not sure about their names though. When & from where did you purchase your Note 3? Are you from India? Which variant you got? 16GB or 32GB?
So, they've put different FP sensors as well?! Oh no.
How did you see that your phone has tianma nt35596 panel? What would I do, if want the phone as same panel as you?
Sorry for these several questions. Actually, I want to buy a phone without this screen issue. Any help would be appreciated.
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I bought mine from china, aliexpress 'xiaomi authorized store', yeah there are two FP sensors the FPC (which works with all the custom firmware like CM13), and the GOODIX which won't work with custom firmware's (might be fixed later if xiaomi releases updated sources), I heard some of the phones that are made in india have problems like gyroscope issues, bad screens and other issues.
to find out what screen is in the phone go to Settings -> About Phone -> Click on Kernel Version 5 times to enter CIT mode, then click 1. Software version
at the very bottom it should say LCM information then the model, you can also find other info here too.
I know xiaomi has a "auto contrast app that's hidden deep within the settings" this might also be effecting peoples colors.
otyg said:
I bought mine from china, aliexpress 'xiaomi authorized store', yeah there are two FP sensors the FPC (which works with all the custom firmware like CM13), and the GOODIX which won't work with custom firmware's (might be fixed later if xiaomi releases updated sources), I heard some of the phones that are made in india have problems like gyroscope issues, bad screens and other issues.
to find out what screen is in the phone go to Settings -> About Phone -> Click on Kernel Version 5 times to enter CIT mode, then click 1. Software version
at the very bottom it should say LCM information then the mode, you can also find other info here too.
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Ok, thanks for the help. Now I'm going to buy Gold variant, I think. Don't wanna take any risk.
otyg said:
I know xiaomi has a "auto contrast app that's hidden deep within the settings" this might also be effecting peoples colors.
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Really?!! Can you please post screenshots of it? How to access it?
Settings -> Display -> Colors & contrast -
Lol just turn off read mode on the other one
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Lol just turn off read mode on the other one
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Haha. Very funny. Lol or whatever.
FYI, it was already turned off. Ha.
otyg said:
Settings -> Display -> Colors & contrast -
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No. Users having this issue have already tries to adjust it using these settings. It dont get more whiter
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No. Users having this issue have already tries to adjust it using these settings. It dont get more whiter
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strange, perhaps a small batch of phones had the problem, I've been on xds for awhile and never seen the issue come up, in that thread you posted I also noticed the yellow phone was 2/16gb and the white one was 3/32gb, the MIUI version was different too (6 on yellow, 7 on white, kernels are same version but different hash), or maybe they put cheaper panels in the lower cost phone
otyg said:
strange, perhaps a small batch of phones had the problem, I've been on xds for awhile and never seen the issue come up, in that thread you posted I also noticed the yellow phone was 2/16gb and the white one was 3/32gb, the MIUI version was different too (6 on yellow, 7 on white, kernels are same version but different hash), or maybe they put cheaper panels in the lower cost phone
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Aha! This could be the case. Cheaper screens in 16GB variants.
So anyone here having 16GB variant got yellow (warm) tint on their screens? Just compare the phone with another phone having cooler display.
FYI Xiaomi has used similar displays from 3 different manufacturers according to the abilities
None of them is cheaper den the other
All 3 r of equal quality
The difference in color is because of the manufacturer
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Just got Dark Grey RN3 yesterday. The display is neither cold, nor warm. It's neutral.

Wide colour support

Hello,
I've tested the screen with the Display Tester app and it comes with the result that the S9+ screen does not support wide colour gamut.
On Display Mate screen review, they specifically said it does. And I would expect that from a 2018 flagship which is supposed to have the best smartphone display...
Anyone else getting this result from Display Tester? Is this a classic Samsung screw up with firmware or an actual hardware defect?
th.android said:
Hello,
I've tested the screen with the Display Tester app and it comes with the result that the S9+ screen does not support wide colour gamut.
On Display Mate screen review, they specifically said it does. And I would expect that from a 2018 flagship which is supposed to have the best smartphone display...
Anyone else getting this result from Display Tester? Is this a classic Samsung screw up with firmware or an actual hardware defect?
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I noticed some odd behavior as well. Various P3 color gamut test images fail when viewed inside Chrome and the Samsung Internet browsers. BUT, if you actually download the image and then view it in Gallery or something, the image is displayed correctly. So the screen seems to be P3 but the software is not written correctly to display the full gamut in most apps. Hopefully somebody else has a better idea what the deal is and posts back here.
On a side-note, I find the colors on the S9 to be dull and muted. I much prefer the vibrancy of the S8 even if they are less accurate. Played with the display settings but there seems to be no way to activate the full color vibrancy the S8 had on the S9. Oh well.
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Another thing I noticed which is much more serious is video playback.
Dark scenes have black crush and loose a lot of detail.
For example, trailers on YouTube like Black Panther are practically unwatchable. Especially if you're in a dim lit room.
I've mentioned this in another thread...
I'll try to upload later a side by side comparison with my Galaxy S8 for reference.
I pray it's an actual defect with my display because I heard some rumours that it's an Oreo problem. And if that's the case we might wait forever for an update.
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I think those pictures show the problem.
Top photo is GS9+, bottom GS8.
The colours on S9+ are muted but on top of this the loss of detail in the dark areas of the scene is very apparent.
The photos have been taken in my living room which has dimmed lighting.
If I watch the video on bright light the problem is less pronounced but it's still there.
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I think those pictures show the problem.
Top photo is GS9+, bottom GS8.
The colours on S9+ are muted but on top of this the loss of detail in the dark areas of the scene is very apparent.
The photos have been taken in my living room which has dimmed lighting.
If I watch the video on bright light the problem is less pronounced but it's still there.
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Exact same issue here. Pretty sure it won't be fixed anytime soon. If you want more vibrant colours you could just enable video enhancer.
th.android said:
Another thing I noticed which is much more serious is video playback.
Dark scenes have black crush and loose a lot of detail.
For example, trailers on YouTube like Black Panther are practically unwatchable. Especially if you're in a dim lit room.
I've mentioned this in another thread...
I'll try to upload later a side by side comparison with my Galaxy S8 for reference.
I pray it's an actual defect with my display because I heard some rumours that it's an Oreo problem. And if that's the case we might wait forever for an update.
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The YouTube has a communication problem with the S9. Expect an update.

Wrong color and reddish skin tone problem!

I and many my friends (also my FB group mems) have this problem. Both camera and screen cause it
How about your phone?
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Wrong orange color
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After update to v153 my cors are perfect. I will upload photos later
this is 100% color accuracy as the real thing
papavales said:
this is 100% color accuracy as the real thing
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The Watch GT orange band taken by P30 Pro with build 153
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The Watch GT orange band taken by P30 Pro with build 153
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I don't have the p30 pro (I've the Mate 20 Pro, and I'm thinking to upgrade to p30 pro) but, If the build is the same (153) but you have different output, as external guy that did not have the device I would try first to repeat the test maybe after an hard reset of the device. If the results will be the same, the only thing you can do is try to understand if the camera sensors are the same for all the devices, brand side. I don't want to think that Huawei mounted on the p30 pro same sensors but from 2 different vendors, as they did for the mate 20 pro displays ( afaik samsung with the galaxy s6 did the same... isocell samsung sensor and sony sensors)
9.1.0.153 got rid of this weird red and orange tinge on all the photos I've taken so far - very happy overall with this new firmware!
Also, it shouldn't do any harm to go into your Camera's settings and deleting the cache and data too just in case (it probably won't do much but there's no risk to doing this)
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I don't have the p30 pro (I've the Mate 20 Pro, and I'm thinking to upgrade to p30 pro) but, If the build is the same (153) but you have different output, as external guy that did not have the device I would try first to repeat the test maybe after an hard reset of the device. If the results will be the same, the only thing you can do is try to understand if the camera sensors are the same for all the devices, brand side. I don't want to think that Huawei mounted on the p30 pro same sensors but from 2 different vendors, as they did for the mate 20 pro displays ( afaik samsung with the galaxy s6 did the same... isocell samsung sensor and sony sensors)
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P30 Pro using the very different camera sensor: RYYB instead of RGGB. This cause Orange color problem .
denzs88 said:
9.1.0.153 got rid of this weird red and orange tinge on all the photos I've taken so far - very happy overall with this new firmware!
Also, it shouldn't do any harm to go into your Camera's settings and deleting the cache and data too just in case (it probably won't do much but there's no risk to doing this)
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Build 153 improved situation but problem still there. The screen also different to almost of other phones interm of reddish when display skin tone
Zanr Zij said:
Build 153 improved situation but problem still there. The screen also different to almost of other phones interm of reddish when display skin tone
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I know Chinese phone companies prefer to tune with slight pink as it makes Chinese people skin looks better.(like Kpop look). Then with a western person the skin looks off. This is in favor to the local domestic market. I am not sure if the global models sent out are tuned less pinkish or it maybe default for all units.
got 153 and it still... bruhh
If next patch can't fix this RYYB problem maybe I gonna switch back to S10+
https://imgur.com/a/MN6aGak

Question MIUI 12.5 Update: Screen looks worse

Hello, I am a Mi 11 Lite 5G user (bought in Spain, from Orange). I have a Tianma Screen and since I updated to MIUI 12.5 (yesterday) the screen looks even worse than before. Instead of dark tones I see big green pixels using my device in dark mode or watching series and movies during night. I have this issue in all color modes (including P3).
I just wanted to open this thread to report it and to know if there more users with this problem. I know at least 3 more users with this problem here in Spain
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The smartphone on the top is the Mi 11 Lite 5G, on the middle Poco F3 and on the bottom Oneplus 8
Green tint issues are among OLED screen for a long time, here as reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/green-tint-on-screen.4262217/
Maybe Tianma has it even worse. Magnitude may be different between devices and screen.
If it's obvious, can try refund or replacement. Check your country Xiaomi warranty policy though. Sometimes after submitting replacement, even if you didn't get your replaced device, you will not be able to make refund.
@polfmarti I also have pixel clusters where there should normally be black shades. But I already had this problem with Miui 12. I thought it was a software issue, but maybe it's not? Btw i have Tianma display too....
Xelycs said:
@polfmarti I also have pixel clusters where there should normally be black shades. But I already had this problem with Miui 12. I thought it was a software issue, but maybe it's not? Btw i have Tianma display too....
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I also had this issue with Miui 12 but with Miui 12.5 I see it more exaggerated. I don't know if it can be solved
This will be the last Xiaomi for me.... I am really disappointed with this phone
Is the same for me. Tianma screen here too. I have the same issue but I don't know if this started with 12.5 update... I think this problem was here before tbh.
Is not only the green tint issue but also a "pixelation" (square artifacts) on dark scenes. They can be seen in movies, images, or even the UI.
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Is the same for me. Tianma screen here too. I have the same issue but I don't know if this started with 12.5 update... I think this problem was here before tbh.
Is not only the green tint issue but also a "pixelation" (square artifacts) on dark scenes. They can be seen in movies, images, or even the UI.
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It is not pixelation but in line with Black Crush problem that plagued Samsung S9.
I have Tianma panel too and had said black crush problems. But 12.5 seems to have fixed it.
I haven't done a throughout test but LG OLED test on Youtube does not show any symptoms unlike before.
And story continues. WTF Xiaomi, making bad things worse with software? They of course know about the issue and now trying to sort out **** display with software updates. No chance!
I'm in touch with them and answer was kind of "yeah, we know displays are meh" but not straighforward of course. Trying to change mine in UK for device with Huaxing. Will let know if will be succesful.
It's disgraceful to put those displays in Lite version of flaghip phone...!
How i can check the panel type?
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How i can check the panel type?
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Here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4270203/post-85122223
and then here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4270203/post-85145841
Another new thing since the 12.5 update: Blacks are no longer black. They are clearly grey, deep blacks don't exist anymore (except during HDR Youtube videos, which proves that it's a bug again....)
Wtf Xiaomi ?
Xelycs said:
Another new thing since the 12.5 update: Blacks are no longer black. They are clearly grey, deep blacks don't exist anymore (except during HDR Youtube videos, which proves that it's a bug again....)
Wtf Xiaomi ?
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I fixed this by changing the color profile to p3, I had the exact same issue before.
Its under display settings and I attached screenshots.
Thanks @vomez, it's working... The more time passes, the more I think I'm going to sell this phone
I have about 2 months with a MI 11 Lite 5G, I do not use it yet as a main phone since I have a MI 9 Lite that works excellent, however when comparing the screens side by side, I notice that the screen of the MI 11 Lite 5g in the Backgrounds or contents with whites look yellowish, look in settings, change the color temperature to cool on all of them and it still shows yellowish white colors. Yesterday I received a MI 11 Lite 5g NE and when comparing them side by side the screen of the Mi 11 Lite 5g NE correctly shows the whites, no yellowish, do any of you have the same problem on your Mi 11 Lite 5G?

Question Should I buy a 9R?

Hi,
I am thinking of buying a 9R. I am hearing negative comments about display regarding tint issue, flickering at low brightness. Some are saying they have not faced any display issue. So, I'm little hesitant.
I'm looking for a phone with following priorities:
- Flickering is a concern for me; I mostly use my phone in dark room with phone brightness below 30% (current phone: Redmi note 8 Ginkgo with IPS LCD - I like its display);
- Close to true color display. no to boosted color/over-saturated display;
- I want an android phone with usb 3.1 standard (for quick data transfer);
- clean/light ui or stock android;
- good build quality;
- I dont play games on phone;
- Camera like Sony IMX 586 will be ok for me. (I liked the camera quality of age old Nokia N8, it has very true color reproduction)
Will it be okay for me to switch to 9R?
I mean, not sure what you are expecting. It's a OnePlus. Software is mediocre, updates are late / non-existent, often buggy. Notifications are delayed. Hardware is often plagued with faults here and there. But we buy it because it's cheap and the dev scene usually is good. This does not really apply to the 9R because its a niche device, niche market.
> - clean/light ui or stock android;
That's not OxygenOS tho, lol. It became a super heavy skin the past few years, versions.
I am not trying to hate, I am also pondering about the purchase. It is cheap after all, and it's top of the line chipset, even with OnePlus's sneaky limitations ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...aims-leaves-a-lot-to-be-desired.549823.0.html ).
Trying to decide if I should buy a Mi 11 Lite 5G (way lighter, but similarly bad OS); Pixel 4a (superb phone, bad battery, costs a lot for the hw) or this.
If you're thinking about Oneplus 9R. Oneplus Nord 2 is a better value for money option. Go with Oneplus Nord 2
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If you're thinking about Oneplus 9R. Oneplus Nord 2 is a better value for money option. Go with Oneplus Nord 2
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I have bought 9R.
tdas777 said:
I have bought 9R.
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How's it turning out to be? Any gripes with it? Like Battery life/heating issues etc. etc.?
You planning to try flashing 8T Lineage to it?
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How's it turning out to be? Any gripes with it? Like Battery life/heating issues etc. etc.?
You planning to try flashing 8T Lineage to it?
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It's still on OOS 11.2.LE28DA (have not updated)
1. I'm not happy with the screen - this is my first android with amoled - didn't like black smearing - brightness control response not smooth - there is an off axis(45degreesh) light pink tint (even type not patchy) (noticeable on white, not a deal breaker for me, it's visible if you look for it) - well I didn't face any other tint issue ---- High quality/Color accurate IPS screen could have been used. And side mounted fingerprint sensor (which would have been much faster than in-screen FP sensor.)
2. Battery doesn't drain fast on idle (I have disabled the usual stuff - location/wifi scan/bluetooth scan/some other small things). - but battery consumption is little more than usual on daily use (browsing, social media apps, phone calls, [NO Gaming]).
Strange thing: Yesterday, on 4G single sim (data on, moderate to full signal, no wifi), with 120hz refresh rate, moderate use, ~2hrs youtube music, ~1.5hrs poweramp music, some insta/fb/twtr/google/browsing, the battery lasted ~2days (@15% remaining battery - 3H 43M voice call, 3H 28M SOT)
I noticed sometime it uses more battery on wifi.
3. Main camera is okay in good light. It suffers in low light/indoor lighting (tuning is not done properly by oneplus.) [Main camera sensor could have been improved in this price range] (I didn't use other back cameras that much)
4. Front camera is okay.
5. Headphone jack could have been given.
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This phone is now my daily driver; so I'm not planning to flash custom rom. I flashed lineage os 17.1 on my redmi note 8 (Ginkgo).
On wifi, screen on 120hz RR, single 4g sim, no gaming, no music listening, ~30 mins voice call, light social media-firefox browsing:
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