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Hi, I am trying to find an opinion about this smartphone and the New OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G. Both have the items I am looking for, sd card, jack 3.5 and near stock Android. I come from the Nokia 7 plus and I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera while using GCAM. Can you tell me what is the best choice in terms of camera quality between this two options? Sorry if I can't write here.
Pedro
Just a bit of info. Stock rom does not show the "auto" option in Settings/Display/Advanced/Display Refresh Rate.
Just 60/90Hz options. If you choose 90Hz it does lower to 60Hz for lock screen and google maps (known issue for map rendering if higher refresh rate).
I found out there is indeed an "auto" option when I installed the Smarthertz app.
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Hi,
I have a Galaxy S9 Plus arriving tomorrow that I had intended to use with Filmic Pro and a Zhiyun Smooth 4 stabilizer (anyone got one?).
Somewhat belatedly, I've just discovered (here) that inbuilt restrictions prevent Filmic Pro from using the second rear camera.
Has anyone any experience of using the Filmic Pro's zoom function without the S9 Plus's optical zoom?
Thanks,
John Latter
Sadly it's true..
Samsung S9 and S9+ FiLMiC Pro v6 Compatibility Guide
The Samsung S9 and S9+ are capable of absolutely stunning footage when used with FiLMiC Pro v6 for Android, and we have worked hard to bring the best possible shooting experience to both handsets. However there are two issues that can impact on the available features you have access to and overall performance on the S9/S9+.
Samsung’s implementation of the camera framework
Firstly, Samsung’s implementation of the Android camera framework denies third party developers access to some feature that are available in the native Samsung camera app. This includes high-speed framerates such as 60fps, 120fps and 240fps.
On Exynos equipped devices we have found a workaround that allows us to deliver high speed framerates even though not officially supported (up to 240fps at 1080p, and up to 60fps at 4k), however this is not applicable to snapdragon equipped devices (see below for more information).
The current Samsung camera framework implementation also prevents third party developers from supporting the dual lenses found on the S9+. At present only the wide lens is supported.
Finally, in order to deliver stable 4k performance we need to use Samsung's 'limited' mode that prevents access to the cinematographer kit LOG/FLAT profiles as well as custom white balance controls.
The Snapdragon CPU
And secondly, in addition to Samsung’s restrictive implementation of the camera framework, they chose to produce the S9 and S9+ with two different CPUs: an Exynos version - and a Snapdragon version.
You can find out which CPU your devices uses with the app AIDA64.
Unfortunately not all chips are created equal and the Snapdragon version has the following limitations for video:
No support for 60fps at any resolution
Whilst we can bypass the Samsung 60fps limitation on Exynos devices, this is impossible on Snapdragon devices.
No support for 120fps.
Whilst we can bypass the Samsung 120fps limitation on Exynos devices, this is impossible on Snapdragon devices.
Automatic White Balance UI doesn’t update.
The camera driver doesn’t provide information about the current white balance being applied, so we cannot reflect this status on the UI on snapdragon equipped devices.
HDR video unsupported
On Exynos versions of the S9/S9+ we can support access to high dynamic range video recordings, however this is not currently supported on Snapdragon equipped handsets.
hardecore said:
Samsung S9 and S9+ FiLMiC Pro v6 Compatibility Guide
HDR video unsupported
On Exynos versions of the S9/S9+ we can support access to high dynamic range video recordings
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Do you plan to implement and release HDR recording for the Exynos version anytime soon?
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Sadly it's true... (followed by the Samsung S9 and S9+ FiLMiC Pro v6 Compatibility Guide)
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According to this thread on the US Samsung Community forums, the 2 x optical zoom is not available to S9 Plus owners in Pro Mode.
In "Auto Mode" the second rear camera may or may not be selected by the software, depending - apparently - on "how much light is available".
In other words, there are probably lots of S9 Plus owners walking around thinking they've just taken a zoomed photo whereas in reality it's likely to be only a digital crop.
Amazing!
John Latter said:
Hi,
I have a Galaxy S9 Plus arriving tomorrow that I had intended to use with Filmic Pro and a Zhiyun Smooth 4 stabilizer (anyone got one?).
Somewhat belatedly, I've just discovered (here) that inbuilt restrictions prevent Filmic Pro from using the second rear camera.
Has anyone any experience of using the Filmic Pro's zoom function without the S9 Plus's optical zoom?
Thanks,
John Latter
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I don't have any experience with Filmic Pro.
But the default Samsung camera app also doesn't use the secondary camera for video. So it's not different.....
I had a few back and forth converstions with Samsung and Filic Pro support teams.
The following is the correspondence with Filic pro ragarding the matter:
Blue is me and black is Filmic pro support
"I'm sure you guys get annoyed about hearing about samsung users questions, but unfortunately I do not see any clear and open communication about it.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+
I would like to know if you guys are working on support for 4k 60fps, 1080p 120fps, and use of the telephoto lens. If so, do you have an estimated time frame that each of these will be supported?
How can I, or other samsung users, help to make the dream of full feature utilization a reality?
thank you"
"Thank you for writing in. Unfortunately, the lack of support for frame rates above 30fps on your device is due to errors in Samsung's camera framework implementation on S9 series devices containing the Snapdragon chipset. To learn more about these limitations, please refer to this resource --> Samsung S9 and S9+ FiLMiC Pro v6 Compatibility Guide
Furthermore, Samsung currently restrict 3rd party developers from accessing the tele lens on their devices. They told us at their developers conference last year that they plan to address this problem, but they are running late.
If Samsung correct these issues in the future, we will be quick to support for the features you mention. The best we can do is continue to raise the issue with Samsung until they recognize their users' demand for these repairs."
"I contacted you guys a few days ago regarding the S9+ and it's features and I received a very informative response that helped me a lot; so thanks for that!
I then decided to contact Samsung about the same issues and they seem to not be on the same page as you guys. After 2 support inquiries here is what I received from Samsung:
"We understand you would like Samsung to enable the [email protected], 1080p @ 60/120/240fps and utilization of telephoto lens to Filmic Pro app.
In the previous email, our agent had informed the camera specifications which the Galaxy S9+ supports. Indeed the Galaxy S9+ hardware supports [email protected] and 1080p @ 60/120/240fps using the in built Samsung camera app.
As the hardware supports the required format for videos, it is upon us the app developers to utilize the Camera hardware and develop the app code which can support this feature.
Samsung cannot change the software for the Camera if third party apps cannot utilize the camera hardware of Galaxy S9+. In this situation, we request to contact the app developer again and confirm if there are new updates available for the app which can support the camera hardware of Galaxy S9+."
With this in mind, it seems that they (or at least their support staff) believe that there are no restrictions on what 3rd party developers can do with the Samsung hardware. Because they are such a large company I would understand that their support staff is not privy to the detailed information of this one specific issue, but I'm curious if the entire company is not actually aware of the issue.
I realize this is a vague question, but I'm wondering if there is anything that can be done to push Samsung to allow Filmic pro to access all of the features that it's hardware provides. I have done extensive research of message boards and forums, but to no avail.
Can you point me in the right direction? Can we start some sort of petition? What can we do to get Samsungs attention?"
"Thanks very much for the followup. While it's true that Exynos devices are capable of the high fps/resolution combinations he mentions, S9 devices containing the Snapdragon chipset cannot achieve this with stability. It's a bit unclear to me, but it almost looks like he claims that 3rd party developers might now have access to both front facing lenses (!!). I at least I think that's what he means by "we request to contact the app developer again and confirm if there are new updates available for the app which can support the camera hardware of Galaxy S9+."
Anyway, I'm going to pass this along to the development team now to determine if maybe we did miss something in a system update that might grant us access to more features (at least for Snapdragon variants of S9 series devices, if we're lucky). We do understand that Samsung place restrictions on 3rd party developers in this manner, but we were told by Samsung at their developers conference last year that they plan to lift some of these restrictions. Maybe they changed their mind and pressing them with more requests for this improvement is not such a bad idea."
Conclusion:
Although I did not completely determine both company's standing on the issue, at least some light was shed on the matter. It also seems that Filmic pro will now press the issues further with Samsung to open up full feature capability at a future date.
If anyone knows of a way that we can group together in an effort to get Samsung's attention, please post about it here.
Just use an iphone. Had issues with my gimbal, drones, YOU name IT on android. No Issues on the iPhone.
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tharealmb said:
I don't have any experience with Filmic Pro.
But the default Samsung camera app also doesn't use the secondary camera for video. So it's not different.....
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Hello
On Oreo Samsung Camera app used Telephoto lens for video as well when there is enough light before you start recording it will switch to Telephoto. adjusting the zoom from 2.0 anywhere else while you are recording switches to Wide lens. (You can see shift in perspective and hear the click).
I could easily test this by pointing the camera directly to a light bulb before starting a recording on AUTO with 2x zoom.. (this doesn't work on current latest build of Pie and stock Camera app for video.
On Oreo you can verify that Telephoto lens is used by sticking some object or your finger in front of the wide lens while recording. ]
What makes me pissed off the most on Pie is that there is no support for Pro Mode Video - you cannot set manual ISO and/or Shutter and this was the main reasons why I purchased Filmic Pro.
To my surprise on Pie / Exynos The Filmic Pro app is able to switch apertures as well. I haven't see this on any other 3rd party camera app.
Regards,
Martin
Hi everyone, I'm sorry if I'm posting under the "Android General" section, but I think that my thread deserves a "general" discussion.
I've been following GCam's portings since the beginning and I've also used them on several devices like: Nokia 8, Nokia 8.1, Nokia 6.1 and LG G6 thanks to their Hardware Level Support set to Level3 (maximum). The question, now, is the following: in your opinion, which will be the best smartphone to run the upcoming ports from Google Pixel 4 new camera? I mean, it is no secret that the latest device from Google will include a triple-lens setup, so it's pretty obvious to think of a phone that has, at least, a wide and a tele-photo lens.
Thanks for moving my thread to the right section.
I'm scared I haven't explained pretty well what I was asking. I'll try that again.
Assuming that Google Pixel 4 will be having a triple-lens set up (tele, normal and wide), which will be the smartphone that will produce images as close as possibile to the Pixel after installing a Google Camera Port? It's pretty obvious that we have to look at a smartphone with a triple-lens set up too and with Camera 2 API enabled by default. On top of that it would also be ideal to have a Snapdragon 845/855/855+ at least and photographic sensor made by Sony (which very likely Google Pixel 4 is supposed to have).
Trying to do an analogy with Google Pixel 2, we can easily assume that one of the best smartphone to install a Camera Port was the Nokia 7 Plus, not only for having AndroidOne, Camera 2 API enabled but also for the same Sony IMX362 Exmor RS (sensor).
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Very interested also. I have a Pocophone, and runs gcam 6 quite well, but not perfect. From seeing it barely running on a Redmi Note 7, I assume it seem a top of the line processor and lots of RAM.
Which phone would be the best nowdays? K20?
Up, that would be nice to have a list of the top 10 Gcam smartphones 2020.
im confused , plz answer.
is it worth buying poco f1 in September 2019? or should i wait for redmi note 8 pro?
Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
xjudexiii said:
Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
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My budget is 18000 - 19000 rs
Couple of Weeks back I replied to similar Question HERE and HERE so I am going to Extract my answers because they are still valid
1. the follwoing member had RN7 and was thinking to buy Poco so I replied ...
Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
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2. This user asked many questions (pasting here ) and I replied ....
Originally Posted by GopalKaul
Hola!
I am a zuk Z2 plus user(it has sd 820). I am looking to upgrade from this phone to a good phone with 20k INR budget. Please help me-
1) is it worth buying in 2019?
2) are custom roms good enough with no issues?
3) average sot on Pie custom roms?
4) any issues with the device?
5) is camera compatible with gcam?
6) any other things you think i should know?
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1. only if you are getting GOOD Discount!
2. CrDroid is Good for PubG, but Havoc2.8 on Optimus Drunk Kernel is NEXT to Miui! (you can youtube "poco f1 on Havoc" and see for yourself)
3. on Havoc I get 6+ hours 4g social media Time.
4. I am high maintenance "sheldon Cooper" type person so for me any device has many issue but the following problems are with poco f1 (according to me)
a. Mixer Path file cannot be tweaked for Volume boost, only on kernel level which is still unsatisfactory for me. ( this is due to modified vendor+firmare image of poco f1 by xiaomi)
b. 3g usb tethering gives process crashing issues due to modified vendor firmware on all custom roms!
c. notch takes 60% of status bar
d. viewing angels arent that good! and kcal setting is must! but still often leaves me tears in eyes if i watch 2hrs of netflix movies!
e. no stereo speakers!
f. even on custom rom! device do get warm and later heats up! the software doesnt starts freezing/lagging but still disturbs me!
5. yes
6. wait little longer! and go for 5g phone with better display!
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It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
Mafioso said:
It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
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Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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Poco is lot better than 5z. So unless you're getting a great deal on the 5z, its not worth considering
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.
I have UK dual sim unlocked handset and have moved from my note 10 5g due to the zoom and better camera (or I hope)
I miss my always on display is there any such thing on the oppo 10 x I cant find it in the settings
Also is there any edge lighting system for notifications which I had on the note 10 plus
Thanks
Unfortunately, you must wait 'till next Android release (10), Which planned on december 20-26
Noticed oppo are not as quick as Samsung for updates I had November update on 4th November my 10 x zoom only has October update
Love camera though
Ive got feeling like oppo phones is like a third hand for the company. First hand is OnePlus - support is much better instead of oppo. For O+7 you can get CustomRoms etc bit for reno nothing...
mancuk29 said:
I have UK dual sim unlocked handset and have moved from my note 10 5g due to the zoom and better camera (or I hope)
I miss my always on display is there any such thing on the oppo 10 x I cant find it in the settings
Also is there any edge lighting system for notifications which I had on the note 10 plus
Thanks
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The 10x zoom does have always on display.
If you go to settings - display & brightness - screen off clock and then turn this on. You can also set the hours it is actually on.
klisza1993 said:
Ive got feeling like oppo phones is like a third hand for the company. First hand is OnePlus - support is much better instead of oppo. For O+7 you can get CustomRoms etc bit for reno nothing...
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Yep it does feel that way!
FYI, some info:
OnePlus reveals 10T colors, and why alert slider and camera branding are gone
OnePlus has revealed the reason why the OnePlus 10T will skip the classic alert slider and Hasselblad camera branding.
www.androidauthority.com
I'm going to get this phone and they still have not yet revealed the complete specs, so I'm gonna wait for the best!
Same here. This 10T looks really nice.
I'm on 8 Pro for around 2 years now and was looking for a good successor. I've considered the Pixel 6 Pro, Xiaomi 12 Pro, Realme GT2 Pro and, sure, the OnePlus 10. These just didn't cut it for me though.
I'm really looking forward to the 10T's European release!
Edit: I wasn't aware of the fact that it can't wirelessly charge though... that's a real bummer. I use that on daily babe right now with my 8 Pro.
That and the fact that the alert slider will be absent makes me second guess if the 10T really is the phone for me.
Doubts, doubts, doubts...
Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
Toasterfork said:
Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
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From some reviews and the launch event, yes, and it should be 30% more efficient, but I would wait for some more long term reviews before buying. (Its also not even out so waiting is kind of a given lol) from benchmarks, it doesn't seem to do as well as other 8+ gen 1 phones in terms of score, however that may be due to not having the phone in performance mode. Until I get my hands on the phone itself tho, that's all the info I can really give.