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So, as I said, I LOVE this phone and think it rocks! I've been having all sorts of fun with it and the ROMS that are available.
However, I wanted to ask if anyone had any views or personal knowledge of the Google Nexus One?
Now that I have been truly spoiled by Android and this community, I started keeping an eye on ebay, CL, the usual places for any stellar deals. I'm seeing some Nexus One phones at reasonable prices but am unsure if I would be doing the right thing moving to an older model than the Aria.
It does appear to have a better screen and faster processor but I tohught I'd tap the community for your views.
Please, I'm not looking for any haters, flamers or getting into a pissing match about why the Aria is better that phone x,y, & z. I'm purely asking from a users perspective whether it's worth me having to invest (because I'll lose money on the Aria) to "upgrade" to a Nexus One?
Also bear in mind I'm NOT looking for any phones tied in with a contract, hence why I am somewhat limited in my scope.
Many thanks everyone.
Personally I'm favoring the inspire, but it might be awhile before it gets down to a reasonable price (and a while before someone figures out how to root the new hboot).
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Personally I'm favoring the inspire, but it might be awhile before it gets down to a reasonable price (and a while before someone figures out how to root the new hboot).
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You need to go visit the HTC Inspire forum. The Inspire can be rooted despite the HBOOT loader that was shipped on the phone. IMO $399 non-commit for a phone like the Inspire is pretty reasonable, too.
Nice! I will go check it out. Thanks!
"Do you mind if I turn up the AC?"
Thanks for the pointers guys. I'd still really like to hear more pros / cons directly about the N1 as compared to the Aria.
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Thanks for the pointers guys. I'd still really like to hear more pros / cons directly about the N1 as compared to the Aria.
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There are some multitouch problems on the N1. It goes crazy when your cross the axis. Same problem came with the Desire with Amoled screen. I think there is also another problem that makes the grey color look pink-ish
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There are some multitouch problems on the N1. It goes crazy when your cross the axis. Same problem came with the Desire with Amoled screen. I think there is also another problem that makes the grey color look pink-ish
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Could you clarify that a bit for me? I'm not even sure what that means - crossing the axis?
To be fair, I don't really use many gestures other than pinch-zoom, does it affect that?
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Thanks for the pointers guys. I'd still really like to hear more pros / cons directly about the N1 as compared to the Aria.
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Even though it is a little older, the N1 will still be faster than the Aria. And the development community is just huge.
I'm thinking about getting the Nexus S. They will be available in Canada soon, on bands that are AT&T compatible.
Anyway, I don't see how anyone on XDA would be disappointed with the N1. There's just so much you can do with it.
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Could you clarify that a bit for me? I'm not even sure what that means - crossing the axis?
To be fair, I don't really use many gestures other than pinch-zoom, does it affect that?
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No it doesn't affect pinch-to-zoom but there are games or apps where you need to cross your fingers and it is affected by this issue. Here's a video that kind of shows what I'm talking about. Same problem came with the Desire with Amoled screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsSUqkh8pcI
Ahh, I see. THANKS for the video post, that really clearly illustrates the issue. Is this a problem on the super LCD screen or just the AMOLED and was was it addressed at all via firmware updates?
Bottom line, I'm really on the fence about getting a Nexus One as I am happy with my Aria. The main points in favor for me I think is coming down to Nexus having bigger screen and being able to use the trackball as my notifier - the LED on the Aria SUCKS!!
as from what i seen on the multi-touch test in dev tools our aria suffers the similar problems
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as from what i seen on the multi-touch test in dev tools our aria suffers the similar problems
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Really? Care to post a link or video to back that up? I'm looking to collate as much info as I can before making a decision.
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Ahh, I see. THANKS for the video post, that really clearly illustrates the issue. Is this a problem on the super LCD screen or just the AMOLED and was was it addressed at all via firmware updates?
Bottom line, I'm really on the fence about getting a Nexus One as I am happy with my Aria. The main points in favor for me I think is coming down to Nexus having bigger screen and being able to use the trackball as my notifier - the LED on the Aria SUCKS!!
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Just Amoled, it dissaperead as soon as HTC started releasing the Desire with S-LCD screen. It was a hardware problem, that's what I read, at least. I don't think it was ever fixed. At least I never read anything about it.
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Really? Care to post a link or video to back that up? I'm looking to collate as much info as I can before making a decision.
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Download dev tools from the market or any multi touch test and you'll see what he's talking about. It's because the aria has a capacitive touch screen like the nexus one. Capacitive screens can only register two touch points. And really only good enough to recognize a "pinching" gesture.
I believe most of that info is correct.
Thanks, you know what, I already tried it and it's true! It causes some very weird behaviors....who knew??!!
To be honest it really doens't affect much in terms of real world usage and I'm still pondering the idea of getting a N1 as I'm actually pretty happy with my Aria. We'll see.
This is just sad!!!
LG makes awesome devices, the G2 is one of the best devices available now, great hardware, great screen yet no devs or users buy it. I know its like the chicken and the egg, but still, its wired not a lot of people buy it.
HTC has S-OFF and locked bootloader, Samsung also has now that stup!d KNOX, Sony and Moto makes pretty bad devices, why devs don't develop for LG devices?!?! Why?!?!
Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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I'm talking about LG in general. The Optimus G doesn't have a lot of roms.
Their phones are not popular, but they are awesome phones!
This thread was with rhetorical questions, I know this is the situation and all that, I wanted to create a discussion about this subject
Is there anyone actively looking for exploits in our bootloader?
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I do think I heard some people on the G2 IRC (freenode #lg-g2) are attempting, but I am not certain if this is true.
Anyhoo, no progress has been made currently.
Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
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Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
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Go Bucks!!!!
Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
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Go Bucks!!!!
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diagf from a UM fan
I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
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diagf from a UM fan
I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
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+1. If nobody knew any better they would believe it was a Nexus 5 just from looking at screen, and the LG emblem. Oh yeah, the N5 is shipping with the same hardware...hmm um Verizon LG N5 *cough cough G2*. Development will come and when it does just root. CM. And Verizon N5 . Clearly LG is learning from their Google Nexus 4 and thats what we see in the G2, lets see the difference when the N5 comes out i bet they will be virtually identical, aesthetics and hardware wise, obviously not the software.
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Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
There mere fact that we have root (AND got rid of carrier ID) is indicative that development is happening.
Be patient folks
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
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Yeah that's all I've found so far too. Well that and I did stumble on our hidden diagnostics screen. (##228378 in dialer). There is a field test mode there. Doubt it'll come into play for anything but never know I guess.
You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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I don't think he was 'rushing' the devs.. Just asking why there's not much development on LG devices. But yeah, its only been out for a week, and it does seem like an awesome phone. It already has root, just give it time.
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You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
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You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
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At least some ppl are keeping him honest :good:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1mkkho/review_lgs_g2_smartphone_gets_caught_living_in/
I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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John Snow, I didnt know you had a computer in the North? There are several developers who are trying/finding the best way to unlock the bootloader, what exactly did you expect the developers to do within a week without an unlocked bootloader? Yes, some developers go for only the big devices, and guess what, this is one. You seem to know nothing about anything around here, so dont go spreading lies.
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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I don't know.. Last time i used the camera was in september.. and before that when i used my Note i would maybe take 20 photos a year. People who bought the ZU and thought that the camera would be great, didn't do enough research. BUT still, the camera is fantastically bad, and Sony should correct this so it's possible to use it without being shocked every time we use it. It's currently on the same level as my old Game Boy camera. Fine, it's not but it's close.
And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
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I like where your heads at... however Lord is right. Partitions don't do anything.
- What is it now 700,000 about not getting GTA5 on PC? LOL... I'm sure the 500,000,000 dollars they would lose not releasing it for PC would be worth a smile on 700,000 faces.
email/ messages/ written can be look and moved on.
Voice and calling is more personal and will get more attention. I don't mind the camera for quick snaps. My DSLR will always win in a shoot off..
* Random info *
When I first got my device, I called my mobile provider to enable 3G connectivity, and had to quote my IMEI number. The guy at the end of the phone didn't have a clue what device it was. He did a google, and almost sh*t himself. How did you get that? I've never seen it before... I want it!..
Suffice to say I had to do it myself.
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When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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Precisely. The camera I knew was average having done my due diligence before purchase. The rest of the phone is by far the best I've ever had for screen size, light weight and battery life among the other features. If you buy phones to take pictures then this isn't meant for you.
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
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And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
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Pal, we aren't getting any Software improvements. Chromatic aberrations shows clearly the use of a very simple and compact.camera module with reduced optical compounds to fit into less-than-six millimeter space (6.4mm less the fit case support) but we didnt get the xzu expecting stunning camera performance, as long as Sony never promised onit. Right? There is much far other cool stuff on the device..
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
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Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask Sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of Sony
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I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g3i3i9skdh8s6xl/GoogleCamera.apk
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To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
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Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
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I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
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better stick with the stock 4.3 camera, same quality but can do photosphere ( 4.4 crash when combine photosphere)
Its a hardware issue. Period.
3rd party app helps but marginal. If camera is really a big issue, I would suggest getting a Z1 or wait out for XZU2.
The XZU is marketed as having a good camera.
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Stunning shots in any light — 8 MP camera with Exmor RS™ for mobile
The 8 megapixel camera is built with the same modules as leading Sony cameras. Exmor RS™ for mobile is an evolution of our Sony image sensor technology, with a next-generation BSI light sensor. By adopting the technology of luminance and colour noise reduction, we’ve created a camera that snaps highly detailed shots with low noise – even in challenging lighting conditions. You’re now also able to reproduce objects in more vivid colours and capture night images and faces in stunning clarity.
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source: sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z-ultra/features/#camera
I bought this XZU because I thought that aside from it being big and fast, it has a good "stunning" camera. The image quality is crap!
Sony should resolve the camera issue, otherwise, it is DECEPTIVE advertising.
hykhleif said:
guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
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Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
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Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
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what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
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what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
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comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
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No.
I'm trying to understand but I'm just thinking you're rather pathetic.
I don't even give a crap about the camera, I just think this is interesting.
Soooo, why do you still have your Ultra? Why aren't you complaining about the lack of flash as well? You could always glue one on.
This is the first device that I've owned the has taken so long with not much sign or interest on the custom development side of things, not even much chatter about it.
Why is there such a lack of interest in the G5? Is it more complicated than other devices or have LG not released the source or something (I'm no developer at all, just a severe flashaholic and am having severe withdrawals since buying this device. Not a single ROM flashed in months lol).
Thanks guys
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Beacuse LG locked all the bootloaders except h850 which is only for some parts of Europe ..Hope that lg will change their minds about this
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The H850 is not the only one with unlocked bootloader. H830 also has unlocked bootloader. Also, i wouldnt go making a lot of demands since moderators are watching. And "Beggers " get the worst out of them (with reason) (just suggesting). Also, since Im not a developer (yet), I decided to hold back and not buy the phone until there is at least 2 builds released. (if another phone dont catch my eye first, which it has already happened, S**t lol) but yeah, also patience is something you will have to endure. There is currently a handful of devs working on CM during their free time. As for now, people will have to use the "Fluence HD" patch if they want to flash something to mod their phones. In addition to that, there are some other developers that claims they have started to built their own roms and are currently testing them in their phones. But there are some files they still missing to compile. ( i have to find the post for each one again)
In conclusion.... yeah, you will definitely have to wait, and begging/requesting/or anything you do with the purpose to make it go faster won't help at all. After all, Developers also have a life, and they are doing this with their free time.
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Roshi69 said:
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Very well. This are the links i have been looking for:
Comment by "Nathan Chance (in addition read post 1 and 2 posted in the same comment) ": http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page18
Comment by "greysonofusa" (claiming that he is building a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
Comment by "1619415" (claiming that he want to build his own rom but he need some files yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
I think i saw a couple of others in another threads but you get the ideas. Its not that there is not interest on building roms for the G5, but that there are missing things to copile. But it is better that they take their time building a rom than to release a heavily buggy/unstable rom that might hard brick your device for good. At least that's what i think. (even though i dont currently own the G5 lol)
yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the galaxy s7. And hell, why not htc 10 too lol. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the HTC 10. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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There cannot be a battle between opinions because in the end everybody will choose their own sides. All that i have said is based on experiences, and base of what i have read too, not only in XDA but digging around google which means thousands and thousands of different post on different websites, in addition to video in youtube, and more. So, let me skip the whole stuff to the last part of your last post, Aesthetics is not more important than functionality to me, which is why i'm strongly siding to Moto Z Force more than S7, HTC 10, LG G5 or even the Oneplus 3 (which have proven to be a good phone with some minor exceptions). After all, I always put a cover on my phone anyways, so, the so called "premium quality feeling" that people often are looking for, to me is useless since i use a cover. I use a phone to call, to use its functionality, not to rub its body against my skin to see how nice it feels every 5 seconds/minutes/hours in a given day. But i also like phones which try to be as limitless as possible. Which significantly reduces my list... Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
It will probably be a while yet before we get any usable CM roms, customised stock is great so far. We should get some soon though as I believe some devs like Xpirt are getting the device
Making a rom is not as easy as you might think . But otherwise, the phone is really good and the Stock Rom is perfect. Would like to root without unlocking the bootloader but you can not have everything
Well, i as Dev and ROM Cooker have to say that I'm really sad about the fact that there's almost no Development on the G5.
We have almost all needed source to compile a booting CM13 Build, but no one is creating a Thread for Public Testing. In my Eyes that would help alot...
Custom ROMs based on Stock are another Story. It looks like that no one is able to get a working Updater Script/Meta-inf.
Shouldn't be that hard for a skilled LG Device Dev to make one. But where are all the G2/3/4 Owners? Are they still on a old G Device? No interests on a G5? I dont know! But it's a really sad Story ...
I've found so much nice stuff in the H850 Firmware but some things need to be fixed and I've no clue how. So I can just hope that there comes soon some Development on this Device, which means more Developers and more success with creating ROMs and Modifications.
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development...
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Miustone said:
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development.
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Same here. But right now I like the device with your Fluence HD and the Aosp mod. It runs very well!
Of course I am eagerly waiting for Alucard's kernel (loved his SGS4 kernels!) and AOSP or cm.
But patience is a virtue and I can wait.
Also, as the price of the g5 is dropping I hope that more developers get on board.
I would gladly contribute. Unfortunately, I'm on vzw.
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Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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Youtube is barely another small percentage of internet's population. Doing that would mean only to stick in one side out of millions. And arguing as in "argument " is exactly whwt we do on XDA. It doesnt necessary has to be bad argument. However, an argument is only worth it if you can feel that you have a chance to persuade or proof your point. But neither of us can do. To start looking for all thr comments, post, videos, blogs, etc..... It would be a suicide to do that. That, and that brains can only retain so much before it throws the information to a deeper part of the brain.
That's it, not much else to add...anyone knows/heard anything on this, an update would be grand. I've not been able to dig up
nor waterboard anyone on this topic! Lol (ty)
p.s. I'm aware that many patrons of our Pixel 6 series are still plagued with ongoing issues, but a friend inside said that's not necessarily it (the cause for delay)?
No idea. Sadly no communication from Google as well apart from "coming soon" since beta 1.
GSI is showing in "DSU Loader" but we are not able to boot into that.
I am pretty disappointed with how the updates are being handled for p6 series.
I am having a Samsung kind of experience, w.r.t. software updates, after buying p6
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No idea. Sadly no communication from Google as well apart from "coming soon" since beta 1.
GSI is showing in "DSU Loader" but we are not able to boot into that.
I am pretty disappointed with how the updates are being handled for p6 series.
I am having a Samsung kind of experience, w.r.t. software updates, after buying p6
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Me too, and I'm one of the lucky ones that's not having any issues other than G-teams lack of information & timing on their updates!
evnStevn said:
Me too, and I'm one of the lucky ones that's not having any issues other than G-teams lack of information & timing on their updates!
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Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?
HtcDesire2 said:
Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?
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Nope, had to ck on your specifics, but negative.
I haven't found ANYTHING, that's odd in this case & I know it?
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Nope, had to ck on your specifics, but negative.
I haven't found ANYTHING, that's odd in this case & I know it?
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Impossible.
All pixel 6 have the same screens and all suffer from rainbow effects and green tints on gray backgrounds.
flyl0 said:
Impossible.
All pixel 6 have the same screens and all suffer from rainbow effects and green tints on gray backgrounds.
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makes sense, & I'm very colorblind so not something that's been catching my attention.
It depends on your ability to spot or ignore these details but it gets on my nerves tbh
This is probably the worst amoled panel I've had in my entire life..
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Lucky you.
Not even rainbow effect on screen (if viewed at an angle) and green tint when viewing the screen in a dark room with dark mode enabled?
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Every OLED panel I've ever had has had green tint in a dark room with dark mode.
People really need to stop going and looking for issues. If you have to tell someone how to look for it, it's not an issue.
What is the purpose of starting this thread when there is already a thread on this subject?
Just curious, because I try to read all threads in the Pixel 6. And it gets annoying with this type of nonsense.
Seaching and reading benefits everyone.
Would you be signing up for android 12L beta? Why?
Given android 12L beta 1 is due in few days would you be giving it a try on your P6? What would be your main reason for this? For me: Dynamic color on boot animation :P May be better dynamic color on UI. Just like to stay on top of updates :D
forum.xda-developers.com
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It depends on your ability to spot or ignore these details but it gets on my nerves tbh
This is probably the worst amoled panel I've had in my entire life..
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Absolutely worst screen I've ever had on a device. They almost have to try to f it up this bad
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Every OLED panel I've ever had has had green tint in a dark room with dark mode.
People really need to stop going and looking for issues. If you have to tell someone how to look for it, it's not an issue.
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That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?
opz187 said:
That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?
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Can you post a screen shot or a link of the issues that you are having. That way someone can help you sort it out.
And I thought I was Nutz.
There are people in this thread causing trouble and do not even have a pixel 6.
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That's complete bs dude.. Don't try and justify your purchase.. I've NEVER had the green tint on any amoled device. Period. Maybe some light bleed on back lit devices. But nothing like this. I'm sick of everyone's bias at trying to defend this bs. "Well other phones have had this n that problem before too", like how low are you gonna lower the bar for Google?
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My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
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And I thought I was Nutz.
There are people in this thread causing trouble and do not even have a pixel 6.
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It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.
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Can you post a screen shot or a link of the issues that you are having. That way someone can help you sort it out.
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Absolutely not. Don't act like I'm the exception here. Just go to both the pixel 6 and p6pro forums right here on XDA and you'll see endless threads with the same problems over and over again. How am I supposed to show you a screenshot of my awful signal, color banding, green tint & other defects etc? Don't be ignorant
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My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.
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Insignificant issues? These are MAJOR issues. All our problems are VALID, who the f are you to say otherwise.
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My $1099 12 Pro Max has a green tint if I put in the exact conditions you describe. So does my Pixel 3 XL. The only *OLED device I've ever had that I'm certain didn't have it was my Samsung Captivate.
My point is that I'm sick and tired of seeing people tell people to go look for issues. If they didn't see it before, it wasn't an issue until you made it one.
It doesn't matter if I have one or not, I'm going to call out stupid BS when I see it. Having people check for insignificant issues they didn't even know about just makes people who were previously happy with their purchase unhappy because once you see something, you can never unsee it. People need to stop spoiling other people's happiness. Like this thread wasn't even started about the "defects" of the device, they were brought up to someone who just finished saying they were happy with their device! It's ridiculous.
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I'm sick of people like you who can't be objective and see the issues for what they are and have to push your little self conscious bias on us who ARE having issues. Just because some may not be having issues doesn't mean the rest aren't. And who's to say those that "aren't having issues" really aren't, or maybe they just haven't noticed OR just prefer to ignore it. Of course there's people like you and vandy who completely deny that there are issues. "Uh the green tint is a sweet feature, what you mean"
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I'm sick of people like you who can't be objective and see the issues for what they are and have to push your little self conscious bias on us who ARE having issues. Just because some may not be having issues doesn't mean the rest aren't. And who's to say those that "aren't having issues" really aren't, or maybe they just haven't noticed OR just prefer to ignore it. Of course there's people like you and vandy who completely deny that there are issues. "Uh the green tint is a sweet feature, what you mean"
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I'm not denying that there are issues. My problem is people like you who think it's your job to tell someone who's happy with their phone about the issues it likely has. Stop ruining people's enjoyment of the device just because you demand perfection. You came into a thread that wasn't about device issues and told someone who just finished saying they were happy with the device that it's likely defective. Just knock it off. Keep your misery to yourself and threads designated for it. I'm not going to reply to this any further because I don't want to make work for the mods but it's just not cool to ruin other people's experience with their devices.
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I'm not denying that there are issues. My problem is people like you who think it's your job to tell someone who's happy with their phone about the issues it likely has. Stop ruining people's enjoyment of the device just because you demand perfection. You came into a thread that wasn't about device issues and told someone who just finished saying they were happy with the device that it's likely defective. Just knock it off. Keep your misery to yourself and threads designated for it. I'm not going to reply to this any further because I don't want to make work for the mods but it's just not cool to ruin other people's experience with their devices.
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Ruining people's happiness lol. Grow up dude. If there's an issue with my device I didn't know about, I sure as hell would like to know about it, whether it affects me or not. If the problems don't bother you that's great, kick rocks. But people should and have the right to know that these issues are prevalent and widespread. If they aren't affected or choose not to care, that's great. But at least they have the information. Your argument is weak sauce