cant find much info on the us version root process
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
butchieboy said:
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
Reator4 said:
That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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He probably didn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
Jed!Master said:
Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
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No US or Canadian version can be bootloader unlocked. Period. It has been the case for many years now. It will never change.
I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
Was about to say that
Reator4 said:
That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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they probably just focused on the word unlocked and said yes, your phone can be unlocked.
bresk said:
I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
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coming from an S22U myself, if you trade in your S22U I would say it's worth it. If you are just going to buy it out right with no trade in, I would say not worth it. S23U is a 20-30% upgraded S22U in my opinion. S23U is a great device but don't expect to be blown away. At the end of the day your S22U will do most of the same things that the S23U will do.
Thanks, the reason I've asked is because s22 ultra in the USA is not possible to gain root due to the bootloader not being able to unlock
butchieboy said:
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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chimera...
This applies to the s22 ultra USA version as well? I want to unlock the bootloader on my s22 ultra since it's not much difference on the s23 witch I was holding on without no modifications to avoid problems and ended up with a void warranty etc...
domperidane said:
chimera...
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I bought Chimera, and it did not work.
domperidane said:
chimera...
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they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
Jed!Master said:
they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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ADB AppControl is a working debloater tool. Used it to uninstall YouTube the other day so I could replace it with ReVanced.
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
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bresk said:
break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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thanks man
thanks a lot, im going to buy you a coffe when i wakeup ok? i cant barely keep my eyes open, not even Adderall is keeping me awake lol
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Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
Any major developers coming to the s9?
Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
peachpuff said:
Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
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I'd take it. Currently been on a LGv30 since it's release with no sign of root in sight for it.
lightninbug said:
Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
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I think ..... sadly not.... I just cannot get over the fact that it is sooooooooooo harrdddddd to root .. 80% battery is not for me by any means. I will do my best to curb my temptation to get this device but who knows. If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
vponomarev said:
Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
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Yeah it's all of them. Carriers, Qualcomm, and Samsung. Just to collect that 10 or 5 bucks hotspot as a monthly fee. Also so they can re-sell the phone after without having the knox tripped.
They're cheap.
I can't believe I am reading all this techie stuff..
But I cannot stand this S9+ with its unremoveable default apps that just keep popping up ..
I would settle for a solution that let get rid of the FKN Games and Game icon..
I finally got rid of Bixbie… painfully...
I HATE SAMSUNG for these forced apps getting the best real estate..
I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
storm68 said:
I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
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Nope it's not, and will be a loooooooong time before it is.
Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
Pashovski said:
Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
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I'm on Snapdragon directly from T-mobile in the US.
Very little bloatware installed. And what was there I was able to uninstall easily including Facebook.
This was the first device I've owned that I've been able to do this without root.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
Oyeve said:
With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Same over here iwant hotspot tether s9 plus iwas om iPhone 6s plus jailbroken I miss my hot spot :crying:
Thinking about picking up the V60 ThinQ. I don't have any experience with LG so I'm not sure how user friendly they are when it comes to root and unlocking bootloaders. I'm stubborn and refuse to buy a phone that doesn't have:
1) A headphone jack
2) A microSD card slot
3) Root access
Yes I realize that is just making life harder for myself but I have my principles.
I know this phone is fairly new and I seem to be having trouble finding much information about root. Does anyone know if there has been any progress with it?
I'm really not trying to be "that guy" I just haven't had much luck finding reliable info. I suppose that is probably a good indicator that the info just doesn't exist but I figured I'd take a shot at asking the pros.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
don't get me wrong I love this phone but I kind of regret trading my pixel 4 xl... LG blocked users access to the bootloader... you can access fastbootd and download mode and recovery and that's it. all commands are blocked in fastboot mode as well. although the OEM unlock switch can be toggled out of the box I think they allowed this because they know that you will not gain access. I may get the S20 Plus next week, at least it has root...
AceMasterHan said:
Thinking about picking up the V60 ThinQ. I don't have any experience with LG so I'm not sure how user friendly they are when it comes to root and unlocking bootloaders. I'm stubborn and refuse to buy a phone that doesn't have:
1) A headphone jack
2) A microSD card slot
3) Root access
Yes I realize that is just making life harder for myself but I have my principles.
I know this phone is fairly new and I seem to be having trouble finding much information about root. Does anyone know if there has been any progress with it?
I'm really not trying to be "that guy" I just haven't had much luck finding reliable info. I suppose that is probably a good indicator that the info just doesn't exist but I figured I'd take a shot at asking the pros.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Is root even a thing now?
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Some_Ghost said:
don't get me wrong I love this phone but I kind of regret trading my pixel 4 xl... LG blocked users access to the bootloader... you can access fastbootd and download mode and recovery and that's it. all commands are blocked in fastboot mode as well. although the OEM unlock switch can be toggled out of the box I think they allowed this because they know that you will not gain access. I may get the S20 Plus next week, at least it has root...
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Thanks I really appreciate the info. Looks like I'll be holding off for a bit to see how things progress. I really like the look of this phone but root access is one thing I won't bend on. Thanks again.
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Is root even a thing now?
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It is for me. I use a few apps that need root permissions. Also, being locked out of certain parts of a pocket computer "for my own good/safety/security" just doesn't sit well with me. If I decide to go into the file system and start hacking and slashing files until it's a brick, that's on me.
I can easily see how that could seem silly to some but at the end of the day if I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars or more on a device that I carry with me everywhere and use every day for the foreseeable future, it's damn sure going to have the features that I want. For me that's a 3.5mm headphone jack, a microSD slot, and root access. Of course, I have a bad habit of making my own life more difficult based on principle alone. I wouldn't recommend it. However we all have to pick and choose our own hills to die on. Don't even get me started on dongles...
Anyway, I'm very sleep deprived and rambling on about nonsense. Apologies.
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don't get me wrong I love this phone but I kind of regret trading my pixel 4 xl... LG blocked users access to the bootloader... you can access fastbootd and download mode and recovery and that's it. all commands are blocked in fastboot mode as well. although the OEM unlock switch can be toggled out of the box I think they allowed this because they know that you will not gain access. I may get the S20 Plus next week, at least it has root...
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For those who still want a 3.5mm audio jack on their cellphone, the S20 Plus isn't a viable option.
dbaldock9 said:
For those who still want a 3.5mm audio jack on their cellphone, the S20 Plus isn't a viable option.
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that may be true, but I was talking about myself because I could care less about the headphone jack. I got the V60 because of the battery life, the size, the price, and 5G... the dual screen was a bit intriguing yes but it did not fully influence my choice lol
I was thinking about getting the V60 too as I'm still on the V30, and just broke the screen over the weekend. Root is essential to me because I cannot use the portable hotspot to tether without it as my carrier blocks that by default, and forces you to change your plan if you want tethering. Root is the only way I know around that, but it sounds like the V60 has not yet been rooted.
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I was thinking about getting the V60 too as I'm still on the V30, and just broke the screen over the weekend. Root is essential to me because I cannot use the portable hotspot to tether without it as my carrier blocks that by default, and forces you to change your plan if you want tethering. Root is the only way I know around that, but it sounds like the V60 has not yet been rooted.
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it took over a year many variants of the V30 to be rooted iirc, this phone is far too new, and in limited markets (so fewer devs hacking on them). My guess is it will take a while for us, unless someone gets lucky.
Just to add to this, I seen that an octopus box can work on every device EXCEPT the T-Mobile version.
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I'm certainly no expert, but I would expect rooting this phone to take quite some time, and perhaps a small miracle.
I don't even think they're selling an open-market unlocked version in the U.S. as they did with my last phone, the V30+.
BROKEN1981 said:
Just to add to this, I seen that an octopus box can work on every device EXCEPT the T-Mobile version.
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Could you elaborate on this further please? I'm not familiar with want an octopus box is. Thank you!
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Also, I'm curious about articles like this https://myphoneupdate.com/root-lg-v60-thinq-5g/ where the guy claims he roots the V60 via SuperSU & Magisk, among a few other methods. Is it all BS?
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Could you elaborate on this further please? I'm not familiar with want an octopus box is. Thank you!
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Also, I'm curious about articles like this https://myphoneupdate.com/root-lg-v60-thinq-5g/ where the guy claims he roots the V60 via SuperSU & Magisk, among a few other methods. Is it all BS?
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That article is BS.
I suggest looking on eBay. There might be a fire hose.
https://gsmserver.com/octoplus-pro-...-tool-plus-unlimited-sony-ericsson-plus-sony/
I only see up to the V40
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easy solution...
V30ish said:
I was thinking about getting the V60 too as I'm still on the V30, and just broke the screen over the weekend. Root is essential to me because I cannot use the portable hotspot to tether without it as my carrier blocks that by default, and forces you to change your plan if you want tethering. Root is the only way I know around that, but it sounds like the V60 has not yet been rooted.
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Get the V60. Use an app called PDAnet+ from the play store. Costs $8 to permanently unlock unlimited tethering. Works on un-rooted phones and hides the data from the carrier. Hands down one the best apps I ever paid for. They have a trial mode to make sure it works. Hope this helps.
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Get the V60. Use an app called PDAnet+ from the play store. Costs $8 to permanently unlock unlimited tethering. Works on un-rooted phones and hides the data from the carrier. Hands down one the best apps I ever paid for. They have a trial mode to make sure it works. Hope this helps.
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PDAnet is great. Gets around the tether cap for me no sweat. What do you mean by it hides the data though? Are you saying it shows NO data use or it hides the fact you are tethering?
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PDAnet is great. Gets around the tether cap for me no sweat. What do you mean by it hides the data though? Are you saying it shows NO data use or it hides the fact you are tethering?
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Pdanet+ only gives you truely unlimited tethering/hotspot only with a rooted device? are will it work on my t-mobile LG V60 thin Q device regular not being rooted because there is no root process yet on the V60 device.Is there any special way that you need to set up the pdanet+ app in order to get unlimited hotspot on the V60 to work? Thanks In advance!!!
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Pdanet+ only gives you truely unlimited tethering/hotspot only with a rooted device? are will it work on my t-mobile LG V60 thin Q device regular not being rooted because there is no root process yet on the V60 device.Is there any special way that you need to set up the pdanet+ app in order to get unlimited hotspot on ootedthe V60 to work? Thanks In advance!!!
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I'm using it on my V60 now as a client but it's working as a host on my temporary unrooted revvlry and it worked just fine on my unrooted v40. You need to know how to set the proxy setting in advanced networking because you can connect any device to it using the proxy settings. Click help in pdanet and follow the instructions for other devices. But the best results are going to come if you have PdaNet on both devices and you connect them through the PdaNet application.
But no. I am getting truly unlimited tethering with no throttling on all of my unrooted devices that I've used it as a host. So if you -don't- have a rooted device try PdaNet. It works because it is operating as its own server, a proxy server. The data is going to your unrooted device then going through a server to the client device. The carrier doesn't see this as a tether.
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GenuineDickies99 said:
I'm using it on my V60 now as a client but it's working as a host on my temporary unrooted revvlry and it worked just fine on my unrooted v40. You need to know how to set the proxy setting in advanced networking because you can connect any device to it using the proxy settings. Click help in pdanet and follow the instructions for other devices. But the best results are going to come if you have PDA net on both devices and you connect them through the PdaNet application.
But no. I am getting truly unlimited tethering with no throttling on all of my unrooted devices that I've used it as a host. So if you have a rooted device try PdaNet. It works because it's operating as its own server, a proxy server so the data is going to your rooted device then going through a server to the client device so it looks like the data is just going to your rooted phone and then PdaNet reroutes it to the client.
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I second that. Completely worth paying for. The only thing I found is that Verizon sometimes seemed to catch on to what I was doing, because I would stop getting data. I would have to disconnect and then reconnect and then things worked fine. It was a minor inconvenience.
One reason I want root access is so I can run AdGuard and NordVPN together (without using their SOCKS5 server).
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I second that. Completely worth paying for. The only thing I found is that Verizon sometimes seemed to catch on to what I was doing, because I would stop getting data. I would have to disconnect and then reconnect and then things worked fine. It was a minor inconvenience.
One reason I want root access is so I can run AdGuard and NordVPN together (without using their SOCKS5 server).
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After what I have read about what they did to fastboot Im not holding my breath for root. Im returning the phone and getting the Galaxy S10.
Root has become less of a necessity for me over the years, though I do think that if I pay $1 for something, it should be mine to do with as I choose. $800 for a phone and I DAMN SURE should have that ability. If I brick it or make it so that any noob can get my info off wifi/bluetooth/whatever, then that's on me. No *****in' policy in full effect.
Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093​
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
[Index] Motorola Stock Firmware
[Guide] Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola devices
Guide: Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola Devices If your device has its own section please post in that section. You can ping me with @sd_shadow MediaTek or Qualcomm Chip? Do I have a MediaTek Device? see post #26 Info: If you have a MediaTek...
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This looks to be it:
lolinet mirrors - firmware, software, iso etc.
lolinet mirrors - powered by h5ai
mirrors.lolinet.com
Edit: I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
fddm said:
I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
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Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
Omizuke said:
Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
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Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
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Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
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Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
Omizuke said:
Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
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Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month. (My T-Mo plan is a grandfathered from 10+ years ago that's only $20, doesn't include high speed internet) And I saw a promo that if you buy in advance 3 months you can get the G Play or a E 2020. And figured, need only 1 but 3 months of unlimited internet is also good, specially if I get an okay phone. But if I can't root it. It could be a $1k flagship and I wouldn't care. And Moto's near stock looks very apealing. V40 has Lineage but as you said would lose VoLTE.
Moto looks like phones that would allow me to tinker, I miss my old HTCs. There was so much ROM variety and customization. Now it's either OEM optimized, or all the CFW look the same, aesthetically speaking, they look so bland. Man now that our phones are more powerfull I'd like to see a Sense 3-4. Loved that layout, as heavy as it was.
Sorry went on rant there. Anyway, I'd just like if the phone can be thinker with. And can handle some light gaming like FFBE and the text be readable.
Omizuke said:
Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month.
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Motorola phones are perfect for you then, I use them exclusively when tethering to a routers. Always easy to root. No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
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No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
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Damn I might end up setting for the E if I can't find the G play.
Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
tbirdguy said:
Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
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Sweet! Thanks for the info, got mine the 8. Gonna wait the week and then start thinkiering with it.
And all bands and VoLTE work well? For my V40 I am limited what to flash if I don't wanna lose B71.
Still gotta deal with Carrier Device Manager, MCM Client and Mobile Installer? I disabled as much as I could without root, remove all permisions from those and "Digital Wllbeing" and McAfee and they're still pestering me. Specially MCM on the ntifications. Can't wait to root and get rid of everything.
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
Omizuke said:
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
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It's generally fine to (entirely) cross flash Moto phones. Only difference between carrier and RETUS is the product partition afaik, so I don't bother personally. I just use a Magisk module to clear out the nondisable folder and I can then disable whatever I don't want.
How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
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How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
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Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
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Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
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Wow factory reset and oem worked ..now imma attempt to unlock bootloader and root
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Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093​
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
[Index] Motorola Stock Firmware
[Guide] Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola devices
Guide: Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola Devices If your device has its own section please post in that section. You can ping me with @sd_shadow MediaTek or Qualcomm Chip? Do I have a MediaTek Device? see post #26 Info: If you have a MediaTek...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
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Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
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No, it shipped with 10, there isn't any firmware to downgrade to.
I'm guessing 11 isn't very far away.
fddm said:
Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
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I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
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Oh the play does have swipe sensore for notifications. And although it doesn't have dt2w I just tap it to the side, any slide movement wake the screen and you can the swipe to unlock. It does wake up for the littlest for movements so it can get a bit annoying.
Hi everyone.
I've pre-ordered an S23 Ultra and have also purchased a 2 year Samsung Care + plan. I've been using a OnePlus 5 from 5+ years now and the last Samsung device I used was Galaxy S2.
Since Samsung's warranty becomes void if the Knox is tripped, my question is, in case there is a screen/ hardware damage to a rooted device, can it be claimed for repair/ replacement under Samsung Care+?
Because in case a rooted device will not be considered under Samsung Care+ plan too, I think I would prefer to cancel the plan. I'm looking for your suggestions on this. I am located in Canada.
P.s. I see the following exception point mentioned in the T&C's of Samsung Care+, "Device malfunction or damage due to improper installation on, or improper equipment modification to the device."
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
There currently is no way to unlock the bootloader in the US and Canada. Additionally there is no working root exploit for these phones. It should be near impossible to trip Knox in the locked state. So it's nothing to worry about.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the Knox efuse, loading an unauthorized bootloader does.
Apparently paid services have been able to unlock the N10+'s and maybe other Snaps. I'm not that interested so haven't followed this too closely. The remote service could potentially install malware and I refuse to risk bricking a valuable device.
blackhawk said:
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
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Hi what's abd edits?
It's up to the person checking. Some may take it in for warranty even if the knox is tripped but some won't. I've had that experience before.
marvi0 said:
Hi what's abd edits?
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Using ADB commands to remove bloatware is probably the most common example.
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on North American variants. Only European. So my point is this question is moot, not that Knox won't be tripped if you unlock bootloader.
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You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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Omg! I've recently shifted to Canada and was not aware about this.
Now I wonder, why did I order this 1900 CA$ device.
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units? I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
therealashish said:
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units?
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Not at this time.
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I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Might as well get used to it as this is the way the industry is going. For example OnePlus 11 allows unlocking the bootloader but there is no longer a free way to fix your device if you brick it since the 9RT came out. This has meant that the 10T and 10 Pro have had basically no development.
Pixels have unlockable bootloader still and plenty of custom ROMs are available but... well... you'll be dealing with a lot of other headaches like a battery that probably won't even make it 24 hours on wifi and much less than that on 5G thanks to an inferior Samsung modem. They also have random hardware problems like I've had my screen start flickering and eventually get green lines twice on my Pixel 7 Pro and there have been many others reporting similar issues and now there are reports of pieces straight up falling off the phone surfacing too and this thing has only been out since October...
Pick your poison I guess.
wow , this is nuts . Any reason why other than make sure they sell their own software?
5-8 years ago we were laughing about Apple, but now android are doing the same thing.
Those phone a solid 8 years phone power wise, and the only way to keep them updated is aftermarket ROM !
OP, Im coming also from a OnePLus 5, and also from canada.
I also paid 1900$.
And I'm starting to regret my choice, I have only few days to return it.
Should I get a Oneplus 11 ???
I have had Android Phones since the OG T-Mobile G1. Back then, I rooted EVERY phone I have had.
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting. I don't get it.
Maybe I am just getting old? LOL!
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Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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Thanks!! I get that some apps won't work without root, but it seems now that people want to root more to say they did than have a real reason for it.
I e given up on rooting mainly because of the inherent stability issue with Custom ROMs and the constant flashing.
Again, I just may be getting old. Lol!!!