Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
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This looks to be it:
lolinet mirrors - firmware, software, iso etc.
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Edit: I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
fddm said:
I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
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Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
Omizuke said:
Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
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Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
fddm said:
Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
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Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
Omizuke said:
Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
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Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
fddm said:
Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month. (My T-Mo plan is a grandfathered from 10+ years ago that's only $20, doesn't include high speed internet) And I saw a promo that if you buy in advance 3 months you can get the G Play or a E 2020. And figured, need only 1 but 3 months of unlimited internet is also good, specially if I get an okay phone. But if I can't root it. It could be a $1k flagship and I wouldn't care. And Moto's near stock looks very apealing. V40 has Lineage but as you said would lose VoLTE.
Moto looks like phones that would allow me to tinker, I miss my old HTCs. There was so much ROM variety and customization. Now it's either OEM optimized, or all the CFW look the same, aesthetically speaking, they look so bland. Man now that our phones are more powerfull I'd like to see a Sense 3-4. Loved that layout, as heavy as it was.
Sorry went on rant there. Anyway, I'd just like if the phone can be thinker with. And can handle some light gaming like FFBE and the text be readable.
Omizuke said:
Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month.
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Motorola phones are perfect for you then, I use them exclusively when tethering to a routers. Always easy to root. No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
fddm said:
No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
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Damn I might end up setting for the E if I can't find the G play.
Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
tbirdguy said:
Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
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Sweet! Thanks for the info, got mine the 8. Gonna wait the week and then start thinkiering with it.
And all bands and VoLTE work well? For my V40 I am limited what to flash if I don't wanna lose B71.
Still gotta deal with Carrier Device Manager, MCM Client and Mobile Installer? I disabled as much as I could without root, remove all permisions from those and "Digital Wllbeing" and McAfee and they're still pestering me. Specially MCM on the ntifications. Can't wait to root and get rid of everything.
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
Omizuke said:
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
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It's generally fine to (entirely) cross flash Moto phones. Only difference between carrier and RETUS is the product partition afaik, so I don't bother personally. I just use a Magisk module to clear out the nondisable folder and I can then disable whatever I don't want.
How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
kjjay said:
How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
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Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
sd_shadow said:
Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
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Wow factory reset and oem worked ..now imma attempt to unlock bootloader and root
sd_shadow said:
Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
[Index] Motorola Stock Firmware
[Guide] Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola devices
Guide: Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola Devices If your device has its own section please post in that section. You can ping me with @sd_shadow MediaTek or Qualcomm Chip? Do I have a MediaTek Device? see post #26 Info: If you have a MediaTek...
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Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
kjjay said:
Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
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No, it shipped with 10, there isn't any firmware to downgrade to.
I'm guessing 11 isn't very far away.
fddm said:
Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
tbirdguy said:
I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
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Oh the play does have swipe sensore for notifications. And although it doesn't have dt2w I just tap it to the side, any slide movement wake the screen and you can the swipe to unlock. It does wake up for the littlest for movements so it can get a bit annoying.
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Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to not have root or BL unlock.
EDIT: Wow, even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
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Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to
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It's unlikely. It takes finding an actual exploit to unlock the bootloader which comes with tradeoffs. You will trip Knox which will permanently void your warrenty, as well as make it so Samsung Pay never works again. In the S8 it also cripples the battery to never charge over 85% I believe.
It's possible that someone may find an exploit to achieve root / unlock bootloader. I wouldn't hold out hope though. If you really have to have root / custom roms, don't get the US Snapdragon device. Or get another phone altogether.
todd3835 said:
It's unlikely. It takes finding an actual exploit to unlock the bootloader which comes with tradeoffs. You will trip Knox which will permanently void your warrenty, as well as make it so Samsung Pay never works again. In the S8 it also cripples the battery to never charge over 85% I believe.
It's possible that someone may find an exploit to achieve root / unlock bootloader. I wouldn't hold out hope though. If you really have to have root / custom roms, don't get the US Snapdragon device. Or get another phone altogether.
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Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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it's a kind of "in the eye of the beholder" thing really.
Your not forced to upgrade phones. You don't have to actually root the phone to get use out of it once Samsung decides to stop issuing major OS updates, you can easily use the same OS for a long while. I know some brand new phones that are still being sold with older android OS's on them, and I know quite a few people who are getting a lot of use out of them.
Also it's not that they stopped it for the snapdragon phones as much as it is Samsung made the phone to be secure. If there is no exploit that can be found to install root on the phone then it means Samsung did what they were supposed to do when designing, creating and updating the phone. While I would also like the ability to root the phone at some point in time and customize it as I wish, I also do prefer to maintain the ability to keep my phone secure. Rooting the phone strips away some/most of that security by allowing full admin access to the phone's software (something that it was not originally intended to be sold with).
So like I said, it's an eye of the beholder thing....
fuzzybabybunny said:
Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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As the other person said, there's nothing wrong with running an older OS. I typically upgrade every year or two, so I'm not too worried.
I used to always root and usually run something custom. The S9 Plus is the 2nd phone I haven't rooted,the LG v20 being the other. Honestly, the only thing I was missing was Titanium Backup. Google has gotten better about backing up app data. It isn't perfect, but it's a lot better. Samsung also included a decent backup app for restoring.
As for OS updates, we are already seeing Treble pay off. Sure, being able to use a GSI image would be nice but the alpha builds are further along than in previous years at the time from what I've read.
If you truly care about root / custom roms, you should probably get a pixel. They are the easiest to unlock, have the fastest updates, and will play so nicely with GSI images.
I wish I had researched this aspect of the 9/S9+ more before buying one.
I came from the S5, and the Galaxy S before, and didn't realize that the phone hadn't had root for a while (and was looking so doubtful)
Titanium Backup *was* a favorite root-enabled program, as well as a few others, and I liked LineageOS.
But I will probably stay with this phone for a while, now that I own it. It has been a good phone -- I just liked the freedom of a rooted phone.
fuzzybabybunny said:
Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to not have root or BL unlock.
EDIT: Wow, even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
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Due to nobody trying to work on it actively I don't think more than likely not. We'd have to try to bring in somebody
Struggling a bit here, I cannot for the life of me get the device rooted via Fastboot. The command simply reboots the device, I have enabled the OEM unlock feature so should be all good to go from that perspective. The key combinations only get it into recovery.
Any suggestions?
invertgoat said:
Struggling a bit here, I cannot for the life of me get the device rooted via Fastboot. The command simply reboots the device, I have enabled the OEM unlock feature so should be all good to go from that perspective. The key combinations only get it into recovery.
Any suggestions?
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I spoke with Oppo UK some months ago and the bootloaders are apparently locked on the CPH1919.
So... unfortunately no is the short answer
There are softwares to supposedly do this, but I've not heard of fastboot being a method for this device.
The one I've heard of is Qfil (Qualcomm Flash Image loader Tool) which is available with a simple Google search. Latest version is 2.0.2.3...
...is the longer and more complicated route.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on bro.
moozer said:
I spoke with Oppo UK some months ago and the bootloaders are apparently locked on the CPH1919.
So... unfortunately no is the short answer
There are softwares to supposedly do this, but I've not heard of fastboot being a method for this device.
The one I've heard of is Qfil (Qualcomm Flash Image loader Tool) which is available with a simple Google search. Latest version is 2.0.2.3...
...is the longer and more complicated route.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on bro.
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That's too bad. I'm not too much of a techie so I won't risk it with QFIL. An Ad infested device is better than a bricked one. Playing with my old device, a rooted ad-free experience is simply a joy to behold....
invertgoat said:
That's too bad. I'm not too much of a techie so I won't risk it with QFIL. An Ad infested device is better than a bricked one. Playing with my old device, a rooted ad-free experience is simply a joy to behold....
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Ad infested? Is that normal for your country? Which country are you in?
moozer said:
Ad infested? Is that normal for your country? Which country are you in?
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Bojo land unfortunately much like yourself. I mean, it's not so much like I'm being bombarded by push notification heaven forbid. It's just most website have crappy ads that Android Chrome allows (this one included) which were previously beautiful hollow, white empty spaces. Most of it gets past Blockada but at least it's not tracked crap from my browsing history (the very pits)
invertgoat said:
Bojo land unfortunately much like yourself. I mean, it's not so much like I'm being bombarded by push notification heaven forbid. It's just most website have crappy ads that Android Chrome allows (this one included) which were previously beautiful hollow, white empty spaces. Most of it gets past Blockada but at least it's not tracked crap from my browsing history (the very pits)
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Okay.
Strange
I use YouTube Vanced - no adverts, Microsoft Edge with AdBlock plus and Chrome with Ad blockers enabled. I mainly used Edge as it's now Chromium based and fast af and can link nicely with all my Microsoft shizzle in one big, happy corporate mindFK
Never have an issue with ads though bud. Check through your settings on your browser's, etc
Unrooted Moto G Power 2020 North American variant. Considering buying this phone.
I currently have the previous version the Moto G7 Power 2019. Came with Android 9. After the Android 10 update Facebook was installed with it. There was then no way to uninstall or disable Facebook. The only reason I rooted the G7 Power was to get rid of Facebook.
So my question is on an unrooted Moto G Power 2020 North American variant can Facebook be permanently uninstalled or permanently disabled?
Thank you fellow XDAers!
Only disabled unless you root.
DeathToy said:
Only disabled unless you root.
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Does the disable survive a reboot?
It came preinstalled on mine, but I was able to completely uninstall it right out of the box on the stock ROM. I have model number xt2041-4.
Yeah so I think the Moto G Power XT 2041-4 is retail US retail device. So I should be good without FB without rooting. It just seems the older I get the harder rooting gets at least for me. I swear there was a time I could root my phone by just reading directions & not asking questions. Not anymore.
I wonder if FB will forced onto the G Power 2020 after the Android 11 update. Now I have to find one at a price I'll bite at. Somehow can't stomach the current $220 USD.
zapjb said:
Does the disable survive a reboot?
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My bad. Yeah, it's possible to uninstall Facebook without root. I jumped to the conclusion that you couldn't because I'm used to phones that come with it not allowing you to uninstall without root.
zapjb said:
Yeah so I think the Moto G Power XT 2041-4 is retail US retail device. So I should be good without FB without rooting. It just seems the older I get the harder rooting gets at least for me. I swear there was a time I could root my phone by just reading directions & not asking questions. Not anymore.
I wonder if FB will forced onto the G Power 2020 after the Android 11 update. Now I have to find one at a price I'll bite at. Somehow can't stomach the current $220 USD.
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Rooting is actually pretty simple on the G Power. Just copy the boot.img to your phone, patch it through magisk, copy the patched boot.img to your computer, and then install the kernel through fastboot as you usually would. I had this thing updated and rooted with magisk before I turned it on for the first time.
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My bad. Yeah, it's possible to uninstall Facebook without root. I jumped to the conclusion that you couldn't because I'm used to phones that come with it not allowing you to uninstall without root...
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Hope this holds true.
zapjb said:
Hope this holds true.
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I tested it out myself before switching to HavocOS. Able to uninstall Facebook from the G Power. I can't comment on the G8 Power.
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It came preinstalled on mine, but I was able to completely uninstall it right out of the box on the stock ROM. I have model number xt2041-4.
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Same here. And I also have the U.S. retail version xt2041-4.
Stock rom, unrooted.
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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I'm currently on my 6th rooted phone and I can assure you that typically it's never a relaxed process: You're always anxious because you don't want to turn your phone into a useless brick (unbootable and no possible fix).
However, just like you, all the knowledge we gain when rooting the phones it's totally worthy.
Now, since this is your first root, I want to share some useful root-required apps with you (most of them are not available on Google's play store, you can find them on F-Droid for example):
AdAway: System-wide free and open-source ad blocker. It has predefined ads lists. Some games where you get rewards for viewing ads either show an error when viewing the ad or give will simply reward you instantly without showing the ad.
AFWall+: System-wide firewall that blocks internet access for certain apps: Useful to avoid fishy apps to send your personal info to their servers. For example ATM I'm blocking Microsoft SwiftKey Keyboard, Google Messages and Google Phone.
Bouncer (paid): Gives temporary permissions to the apps and remembers your option: If you want to send an image through facebook go ahead, allow the external storage access, then later a notification shows up asking you to remove the pending temporary permissions.
OverrideDNS (paid): Probably the best DNS overrider you can find, it listens for new connections and automatically changes the DNS to your desired one.
Greenify: It's a huge helper on battery saving, allows you to select apps that you don't want to allow to run on background: Greenify kills these apps. Useful if you're like me and you have lots of apps that you use ONLY when needed, for instance, I don't want any of my games to run on background and I don't want to be bothered by game notifications.
Boot animations for superuser: Allows you to flash custom boot animations. Be careful with this app, I didn't try it yet on OP N10 (since I actually like Oxygen's boot animation).
Tasker (paid): Now this is where the fun begins... You can automate pretty much anything! Let me give you some examples that I have on my tasker:
Managing some custom profiles (technically speaking, custom tasks). I have 2 pre-defined profiles: Home and Outside (they change screen brightness, volumes, vibration, display timeout, wi-fi state, mobile data state, and so on, and these values depend if I'm connected to my smartwatch or not).
If my phone connects to my car's BT system, I forced tasker into changing to my Outside profile. If my phone is at my house's coordinates, it changes to home profile.
Whenever I connect my headset, it automatically opens Spotify.
When I received a text message, my torch flashes 3 times.
If my battery reaches 10%, it automatically sends my GF a message saying my battery is running low.
Whenever I open Google Maps, my GPS turns on.
Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
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Yes.
AdAway (or get it from F-Droid)
AFWall+ (you can also find it on Google Play or F-Droid)
Bouncer: You can either visit the author's website or get it on Google Play
OverrideDNS (you can find it on Google Play)
Greenify (you can find it on Google Play)
Boot animations for Super User (you can find it on Google Play)
Tasker (you can find it on Google Play)
You can also see some examples of tasker capabilities on the author's YouTube channel.
Oh man, wait until you get apps like V4A running.
It's a whole new ballpark, just gotta be careful not to hit too many foul balls.
So make sure to keep a backup whenever you start messing around.
CF Lumen (Play Store)
Titanium Backup (Play Store)
Solid Explorer (Play Store)
I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
stealth49rt said:
I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
stealth49rt said:
I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
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What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
SomeRandomGuy said:
AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
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There's a reason why AT&T is losing customers
stealth49rt said:
I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
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If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Deepest. I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Derpfest I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
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Spidermonkeyj75 said:
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
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Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
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No problem, if you have a T-Mobile carrier you will have to jump thru a few hoops to get your network (SIM) unlock , then you have to run a command via ADB to get the unlock code, :But WAIT ! There' s MORE" When that has al come to pass you have to get the unlock token from OnePlus and while in Fastboot Mode , you have to flash the cust-unlock.bin file to unlock the bootloader. Afterwards you can load whatever you want in there. Unfortunately, the Nord N10 5G doesn't get a lot of support or updates which sucks because it's not a bad device on the right platform. I'm looking to try the A/B GSI Flash method since the device is Treble worthy. Good luck! Hope you fare better than I did my first go-around.
thanks for the response. So i got an unlocked phone into which i put my existing SIM card. went into the developer settings and enabled "allow bootloader to be unlocked." you are saying that to now actually unlock the bootloader i need a code from oneplus?
Yep. A big pain in the ass.
cant find much info on the us version root process
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
Reator4 said:
That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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He probably didn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
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Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
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No US or Canadian version can be bootloader unlocked. Period. It has been the case for many years now. It will never change.
I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
Was about to say that
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That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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they probably just focused on the word unlocked and said yes, your phone can be unlocked.
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I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
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coming from an S22U myself, if you trade in your S22U I would say it's worth it. If you are just going to buy it out right with no trade in, I would say not worth it. S23U is a 20-30% upgraded S22U in my opinion. S23U is a great device but don't expect to be blown away. At the end of the day your S22U will do most of the same things that the S23U will do.
Thanks, the reason I've asked is because s22 ultra in the USA is not possible to gain root due to the bootloader not being able to unlock
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United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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chimera...
This applies to the s22 ultra USA version as well? I want to unlock the bootloader on my s22 ultra since it's not much difference on the s23 witch I was holding on without no modifications to avoid problems and ended up with a void warranty etc...
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chimera...
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I bought Chimera, and it did not work.
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chimera...
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they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
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they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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ADB AppControl is a working debloater tool. Used it to uninstall YouTube the other day so I could replace it with ReVanced.
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
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bresk said:
break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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thanks man
thanks a lot, im going to buy you a coffe when i wakeup ok? i cant barely keep my eyes open, not even Adderall is keeping me awake lol