Hallo
I have a HD2 (T8585) which accidentally was dropped into water. (There goes
the warranty into the water too). The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time. Now, when I switch on
the HD2, I am unable to swich ON the mobile. The battery measures 3.8v.
I tried to switch ON the HD2 with the charger, but unsuccessful.
Can u share your experience / tips on repairing the same please.
The charging LED doesnt light on or the pressing the switch on button also
doesnt help.
This is a 3 month old HD2 in very good physical state ( but for water damage).
I really dont want to throw away such a nice phone or dismantle to parts
for spareparts price.
Please provide tips on what to check / measure after opening the
back cover > battery > 4 screws > ?
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
Thanks
Alertme
alertme said:
The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time.
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Depending on the length of time it was submerged and how it was "opened" to let dry, it is often possible to save a phone from contact with liquid.
Obviously absolute MINIMAL time in water or any other liquid will improve your chances, as well as immediate removal of the battery.
The phone should be disassembled as much as possible and excess liquid should be removed. The parts should then be placed in a warm (not hot!) location with low humidity such as in a bag with rice or silica packets (if handy) to absorb moisture. It should then be allowed to dry for at least 48 hours (the longer the better).
Since you did not state how long your phone was exposed to the liquid and exactly what steps you took to dry it, I cannot say whether or not it is possible to salvage it. The fact that it is not powering on or charging is definately not a good sign.
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
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Unfortunately it may require a bit more than 2 cents of electronic knowledge to repair severe water damage. Assuming it can be repaired at all...
If you want to try you need to remove the circuit boards and carefully clean any corrosion around all the contacts.
Use a q-tip and very soft toothbrush to remove corrosion. Distilled water or a pure alchohol or solvent that contains no oil or other ingredients and will evaporate compeltly can be used. This is a tedious process and every electrical component must be cleaned.
Once the componets are clean, carfully wash (if nessecary) and dry the circuit board and all electrical contacts. Place it in a warm dry bag (with rice or silica packets) and let it dry for at least 12hrs (longer is better). Do not use heat or direct sunlight to speed up the drying process. Once the compenents are dry again, reassemble your device. Make sure the battery is cleaned and dry as well. (If possible use an alternate battery.)
Power on the device. If you still get no power/charging/boot then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
Faelok said:
...... then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
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Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
Wilco said:
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
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Ouch...
You know what I was thinking might be funny though? Take it out to a public place somewhere and pretend to have an angry conversation on it, then yell "OH YEA!?!? WELL $^%# YOU TOO!!" then smash it on the ground.
Then enjoy the reactions on the faces of the unsuspecting public.
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Hi guys. Today my future sister in law, bumped a table & my Flyer fell in a bucket of soapy water. I pulled it out in seconds, but it was fully submerged.
I'm saying all this because, 5 hours later it's still working like normal. Switched it off & on. I'm busy charging as I type this. Camera & SD card seem okay. Only thing is I had to remove my screen cover.
I will update you if my Flyer dies any thime soon
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
It sounds stupid but the best thing to do now is to screw it open and wash it with pure water. Though everything is working now I assume the detergent in the soap will affect the electronic parts very soon.
Looks like HTC is making waterproof phones. My HTC TyTNII was in the washing machine, then the dryer and afterwarts washed it with pure water and dried it in the oven @ 50 degrees. It worked perfectly after that for 3 more years when I retired the phone!
swiftgs said:
It sounds stupid but the best thing to do now is to screw it open and wash it with pure water. Though everything is working now I assume the detergent in the soap will affect the electronic parts very soon.
Looks like HTC is making waterproof phones. My HTC TyTNII was in the washing machine, then the dryer and afterwarts washed it with pure water and dried it in the oven @ 50 degrees. It worked perfectly after that for 3 more years when I retired the phone!
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Wouldn't recommend more water ! If possible open unit and remove power, place in airing cupboard (i.e. a warm very dry place) for a week. Brought a Nokia phone back to life that had been through the washing machine by doing this - good as new and a lot cleaner afterwards !
Put it in a bag of rice. The rice will help draw out excess moisture.
Submerge it in alcohol. Then put it in the bag of rice just to be on the safe side. Atleast for 3 days
One question though. If I unscrew & open, won't I void my warranty? Or is it void already because of the water?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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Wouldn't recommend more water ! If possible open unit and remove power, place in airing cupboard (i.e. a warm very dry place) for a week. Brought a Nokia phone back to life that had been through the washing machine by doing this - good as new and a lot cleaner afterwards !
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Usually you never want to use more water. But if it is soapy water like the TS mentioned all the soap leftovers will stick on the internal circuit and WILL cause harm and corrosion. Therefore my advice still is to clean it with pure water (or mineral water, dont know the correcty word, it is also used in car batteries).
With the battery removed this will not cause harm to the circuits and will remove the soap. Off course you need to dry it afterwards and put the parts in a bag of rice or in the oven at low temperature.
maybe your tablet will function perfectly for the rest of its life, but is the soap generates some corrosion on the circuit board the damage will 100 percent be permanent and not repairable.
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Hi guys. Today my future sister in law, bumped a table & my Flyer fell in a bucket of soapy water. I pulled it out in seconds, but it was fully submerged.
I'm saying all this because, 5 hours later it's still working like normal. Switched it off & on. I'm busy charging as I type this. Camera & SD card seem okay. Only thing is I had to remove my screen cover.
I will update you if my Flyer dies any thime soon
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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Buy yourself a new one, as her wedding present ?
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One question though. If I unscrew & open, won't I void my warranty? Or is it void already because of the water?
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Your warranty is void. HTC puts moisture sensing stickers inside their devices. If any of the stickers are red (meaning they were exposed to moisture) they will not honor the warranty. They are very strict on this.
Rule of thumb for any phone or similar device, if it gets wet/immersed is to power down (remove the battery if possible) and don't power back on until you dry it out. Rice, desiccant packs, and other methods are recommended to insure proper drying. You just got lucky so far, and all it takes is some water to get in the wrong place and cause a short circuit.
My guess is that the seams on the Flyer are tight enough, that the few seconds of immersion were not enough for water (or enough water) to get inside. Be sure by powering down and drying it out (possibly disassembling as others have recommended).
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Usually you never want to use more water. But if it is soapy water like the TS mentioned all the soap leftovers will stick on the internal circuit and WILL cause harm and corrosion. Therefore my advice still is to clean it with pure water (or mineral water, dont know the correcty word, it is also used in car batteries).
With the battery removed this will not cause harm to the circuits and will remove the soap. Off course you need to dry it afterwards and put the parts in a bag of rice or in the oven at low temperature.
maybe your tablet will function perfectly for the rest of its life, but is the soap generates some corrosion on the circuit board the damage will 100 percent be permanent and not repairable.
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What you need to use to remove any dried soap (white spots).. is Isopropyl Alcohol (90-91%), available at almost any pharmacy or electronics supply. Only this. Absolutely no more water of any kind. Apply with a paper towel, no need to dry... it will evaporate quickly.
Edit: forgot to add, IMHO... redpoint73 (above), gave you the best advice, fwiw.
Just an update. Flyer still working perfectly. Have switched it on & off a few times. Just seems to charge a bit slower than normal, or I could be using it a lot during charging...
But I've decided to back up my data, & when/if it packs up I'll get a new one.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
Another update.
Today Flyer stopped vibrating. Have already backed up data, though.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
A slow death
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A slow death
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LOL. That it is. But I want to see how slow this death is. To warn other people at least.
Having my data backed up is one thing though. Thinking of switching to Samsung, because I want ICS.
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For reasons which may or may not be related excessive alcohol intake, my phone went through the wash.
I took it apart as much as I could (without actually dismantling it) and put it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. It powers up and I can use the phone normally apart from the camera (which buzzes and displays water droplets on the screen), the external speaker which is a bit scratchy/buzzy and the microphone (which doesn't work).
It's out of warranty so I'll have to pay for repairs myself. With that in mind can anyone recommend somewhere (ideally in Liverpool, UK) that will likely have the parts in stock (to save time)? if not, can people recommend any places where they've had good repair experiences?
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For reasons which may or may not be related excessive alcohol intake, my phone went through the wash.
I took it apart as much as I could (without actually dismantling it) and put it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. It powers up and I can use the phone normally apart from the camera (which buzzes and displays water droplets on the screen), the external speaker which is a bit scratchy/buzzy and the microphone (which doesn't work).
It's out of warranty so I'll have to pay for repairs myself. With that in mind can anyone recommend somewhere (ideally in Liverpool, UK) that will likely have the parts in stock (to save time)? if not, can people recommend any places where they've had good repair experiences?
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I had a similar accident, but the phone was soaked with sea-water.
I solved the problem by opening it and cleaning it with distilled water + tampon.
If you are out of warranty, try to open it yourself.
Make sure the battery is removed, unscrew around the chassis and disconnect the male/female connectors.
There are male/female connectors a bit here and there.
Use the tampon with distilled water to clean the PCB and the connectors.
Let it dry, cross the fingers ...and good luck
today i experienced any phone holders worst nightmare... dropping your pride and joy in water!
but after this i quickly turned the phone off, used an hairdryer xD and put everything back in, and as if by magic, it was alive!!
although the screen did shatter :/
so is this amazing piece of technology really water proof?
No it is NOT.
You`re lucky this time, but if you ever send it in for any repair they may deny warranty because of the moisture indicators.
Most phones or any electronic devices for that matter survive a (short) drop in water due to multiple reasons:
- the case is relatively airtight. Water cannot immediately "flood" the device
- Water is a very bad electrical conductor (except if you drop it into saltwater or the unflushed toiled)
As far as conductivity is conserned, it's possible to run naked computers (no case, ...) in purified water.
However there an other issue kicks in: corrosin. Water is a very agressive substance (mainly due to oxygen) and will "eat" away electrical conductors very quickly and cause irreparable damages.
Drying off your phone may not be enough, it's recommended to:
- immediately pull the battery (that's one of the reasons I wouldn't want to get one with built-in battery)
- put it into a bag with dry rice and/or grounded herbs (whatever you have at hand) so that it's completely covered
- put it in a somewhat warm (or sunny) location so that the water vaporates and is taken up by the rice (You may want to stir once a day)
- keep fingers crossed and boot
Note that water-caused damage must not always be visible from the beginning. It's sufficient for a small component to die (e.g. a capacitor) so that in the following days/weeks/months the other parts overload too and the components start failing one after another.
Usually you're fine though.
dazlehd said:
today i experienced any phone holders worst nightmare... dropping your pride and joy in water!
but after this i quickly turned the phone off, used an hairdryer xD and put everything back in, and as if by magic, it was alive!!
although the screen did shatter :/
so is this amazing piece of technology really water proof?
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good move on the hairdryer , just dont microwave it
Not waterproof
Defo lucky. Mine was simply rained upon whilst I was abroad and it is now not working - I didn't think of the hairdryer at the time. The company I sent it into for repairs said that the motherboard has corroded and that it needs replacing. Naturally, it will not turn on and I still want the data off of it though - any suggestions?
Lucky this time. Be careful... huh.
but some people have reported the same other forums. "Blumps, drying, works!"
No it isn't but in many cases a phone can be resurrected. Most important is to not turn it on until it is fully dry.
My friend dropped his S2 in about 50cm of salt / seawater while we were fishing. Took us a minute to find it. I used a knife to remove the screws and opened it up. Before that I rinsed it in fresh water. Let it dry for about an hour, put it back together and it worked just like before. That was 6 months ago and its still running fine.
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Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
Turn it off and open all covers then put it in a jar with rice and let it be for a couple of hours.
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Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
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check the humidity paper behind the SD cover. should be white.
If its anything other than pure white then... ouch!
Like the other member suggests... Place in a air tight jar with rice and or salt. Then place in a warm cupboard
Make sure the device is off. This will absorb moisture.
You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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Only problem with having the device on and hot, is that evaporating the water will leave hard material behind. Like calcium and lime (what ever trace elements were in the water) This can cause issues later on.
it doesn't matter if it is evaporating fast or slow, it will still leave any solubles behind. You might be lucky in that the water that got there may have been vapour to start with
This may be wrong forum, sorry for that if so..
An hour ago i spilled beer on my phone (Xperia U) and tablet (WonderMedia/Vivax TPC 7152).
I didn't noticed it because beer was in my purse with phone and tablet, i tried to boot my phone,it is dead.
Tablet got corrupted (software wise), text got verticaly inverted and started flickering and it died. (I Could not take battery out,case is made like that).
I covered tablet and phone with rice,and i am hoping for best.
Can someone tell me what to do if it won't work after 3 days in rice?
I am trying to bypass service guy because i am living in small town and almost everyone knows who i am and who is my dad...
If dad find this out it will be bad...
Also grandma bough tablet recently so she is gonna be mad for sure...
Any help is appreciated
Dry it in the sun
Open the phone take out battery SIM and sd card and dry out in the sun
For tab put it in the sun
Once I also poor my phone in to a basket full of water
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There are A LOT of tutorials about what to do if your phone gets wet, a google search will find you dozens, if not hundreds.
However, one thing that not all of them cover, but I would recommend for YOUR phone is to soak it again in alcohol (NOT BEER haha). Since yours was beer spilled, not just water, there is an added chance of it leaving behind a residue EVEN AFTER it is dry (think beer spilled on kitchen floor = sticky spot long after it's dry). That residue could block or short out connections inside the phone. For that reason you may want to actually soak the phone in isopropyl alcohol. I know it seems counter-intuitive to solve a wet phone by soaking it, but it isn't. The isopropyl doesn't conduct electricity and will effectively 'rinse' away the beer inside of your phone. Again, you can google the fine details but be sure to use 99% isopropyl (or as close as you can get). After it is rinsed out... THEN put it in rice to speed up the drying (but the alcohol will evaporate quicker than water would anyways)
The only other, fairly easy, step that most people take is to open up the phone and try to scrape away corrosion. Basically getting the metal inside the phone wet can cause rust spots and those spots won't conduct electricity well and could block power or signals from one part of a phone to another. By scraping away the little rust spots you can sometimes improve the connections. You could also google more details on that process, but if you can't even open your device enough to take out the battery, then this may not be an option FOR YOU.
If all else fails and the phone doesn't recover then you have to either come clean about the beer or "accidentally" drop your phone in a more acceptable liquid. NOT that I recommend lying to your dad... but if you've already decided not to tell him about the beer, then that ship may have already sailed. If that is the case then damage from the sink or washing machine might be your simplest explanation.
GOOD LUCK!
Remember to remove battery SIM and sd card before anything u do
duckdodger24th said:
There are A LOT of tutorials about what to do if your phone gets wet, a google search will find you dozens, if not hundreds.
However, one thing that not all of them cover, but I would recommend for YOUR phone is to soak it again in alcohol (NOT BEER haha). Since yours was beer spilled, not just water, there is an added chance of it leaving behind a residue EVEN AFTER it is dry (think beer spilled on kitchen floor = sticky spot long after it's dry). That residue could block or short out connections inside the phone. For that reason you may want to actually soak the phone in isopropyl alcohol. I know it seems counter-intuitive to solve a wet phone by soaking it, but it isn't. The isopropyl doesn't conduct electricity and will effectively 'rinse' away the beer inside of your phone. Again, you can google the fine details but be sure to use 99% isopropyl (or as close as you can get). After it is rinsed out... THEN put it in rice to speed up the drying (but the alcohol will evaporate quicker than water would anyways)
The only other, fairly easy, step that most people take is to open up the phone and try to scrape away corrosion. Basically getting the metal inside the phone wet can cause rust spots and those spots won't conduct electricity well and could block power or signals from one part of a phone to another. By scraping away the little rust spots you can sometimes improve the connections. You could also google more details on that process, but if you can't even open your device enough to take out the battery, then this may not be an option FOR YOU.
If all else fails and the phone doesn't recover then you have to either come clean about the beer or "accidentally" drop your phone in a more acceptable liquid. NOT that I recommend lying to your dad... but if you've already decided not to tell him about the beer, then that ship may have already sailed. If that is the case then damage from the sink or washing machine might be your simplest explanation.
GOOD LUCK!
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My phone and tablet is in rice for about 13h, i will now put it on sun and wait for few hours, i will ask my mother to buy me that isopropyl alcohol,and i will try to disassemble both phone and tablet (found out that you actually can disassemble tablet) and remove corrosion.
Thank you very much, i am hoping for best!
duxishere said:
My phone and tablet is in rice for about 13h, i will now put it on sun and wait for few hours, i will ask my mother to buy me that isopropyl alcohol,and i will try to disassemble both phone and tablet (found out that you actually can disassemble tablet) and remove corrosion.
Thank you very much, i am hoping for best!
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Did it work bro
OMG!
OMG!
datphu2811 said:
OMG!
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Did it work bro
Edit i thought u were the one who posted this