UPDATED 3/25/2012
Talk Android, in the article below, mistakenly stated the update was for the X2 was live. Turns out not to be true.
http://www.talkandroid.com/99664-droid-x2-minor-update-1-3-418-is-now-live/#.T2HsKEGxFI4
I'm so avoiding this. Anyone else that decides to be brave and apply it, let us know the following:
Can you root with Zergrush
Can you SBF back to 2.3.4 without bricking your phone
Just for S and Gs, see if the bootloader is unlocked. I doubt it, but maybe a dev did something stupid? If so, save that update!
Thanks iBolski. (Or should I say Mr Ambassador )
If anyone has a phone info screen shot, that would be nice to see.
Also confirmation that VooDoo works?
Thats all the update brings? Why bother?
I am (just) thinking the kernel will be better for my Mx2 "Nandroid port".
jsgraphicart said:
Thats all the update brings? Why bother?
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Exactly. I've tweeted to both Verizon and Motorola that I'm done with both of them. I'm looking for a new carrier and a new phone.
Verizon is reaching out right now asking why I'm so unhappy. Do I really have to answer that question? Give me a break!
iBolski said:
Per Talk Android, the X2 minor update is available.
http://www.talkandroid.com/99664-droid-x2-minor-update-1-3-418-is-now-live/#.T2HsKEGxFI4
I'm so avoiding this. Anyone else that decides to be brave and apply it, let us know the following:
Can you root with Zergrush
Can you SBF back to 2.3.4 without bricking your phone
Just for S and Gs, see if the bootloader is unlocked. I doubt it, but maybe a dev did something stupid? If so, save that update!
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One question. DID ANYONE get the Soak???
If not, is this "really" what Moto was soak testing? What if it means... (gasp!)??
Edit: I don't think it is live yet, iBolski. Verizon's webpage still says "Coming Soon", like I'm supposed to be happy. I think the article is misguided... Did any brave soldier get the update and then apply it?
litetaker said:
One question. DID ANYONE get the Soak???
If not, is this "really" what Moto was soak testing? What if it means... (gasp!)??
Edit: I don't think it is live yet, iBolski. Verizon's webpage still says "Coming Soon", like I'm supposed to be happy. I think the article is misguided... Did any brave soldier get the update and then apply it?
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I am signed up for the soak and I have not received it yet. I also tried to force the update to my phone just now and it is not pushing it.
I am going to be brave on this one because I have a back up phone I can fall on if anything does go wrong, but I am pretty much ready to just drop my DX2 like our Ambassador and just use something else until my upgrade....
I will let everyone know as soon as I get the email for the soak or if I can update to this at some point today...
Security update! I do not trust those bastards. I hope someone tries it so we know but I don't wish anyone to get stuck without root or able to sbf. Need a normal user that does not care about these things. I will not get close to it before we find out what it does.
gaad0701 said:
I am signed up for the soak and I have not received it yet. I also tried to force the update to my phone just now and it is not pushing it.
I am going to be brave on this one because I have a back up phone I can fall on if anything does go wrong, but I am pretty much ready to just drop my DX2 like our Ambassador and just use something else until my upgrade....
I will let everyone know as soon as I get the email for the soak or if I can update to this at some point today...
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If/when you get it, check also just in case some dev made a "mistake" and left the kernel unlocked. Would be nice.
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If/when you get it, check also just in case some dev made a "mistake" and left the kernel unlocked. Would be nice.
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I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
gaad0701 said:
I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
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do you have the Android SDK on your computer? if you do just go into the folder where it's stored:
if windows C:/SDK (i believe)
if Linux /home/yourname/android-sdk-linux
it should have fastboot within there, but i'm bad at explanations, so iBolski'll walk you through it better than I can.
gaad0701 said:
I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
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From what I understand, you do the following, but back everything up to your external SD card first (do a nandroid) and you must have the Motorola USB drivers and Android SDK installed. Of course, since you've been flashing and SBFing, you definitely have those already installed:
Have your phone hooked up to your PC and type "ADB REBOOT BOOTLOADER"
The phone should reboot into the bootloader saying "Starting Fastboot Protocol Support"
When it's rebooted into the bootloader, type this in your DOS command window: "fastboot eom unlock"
Read the warnings. This WILL reformat your phone so be sure you've backed it up.
Tap Volume Down to switch to "Accept"
Now press Volume Up to actually "accept" the warning.
After that, you should be unlocked and formatted IF the bootloader and kernel were unlocked.
I could be wrong, but that's what I've read before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
the thread w/ 1/3 of a mil hits!
IT'S all about the last 2 pics in the op.
skwoodwiva said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
the thread w/ 1/3 of a mil hits!
IT'S all about the last 2 pics in the op.
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iBolski said:
From what I understand, you do the following, but back everything up to your external SD card first (do a nandroid) and you must have the Motorola USB drivers and Android SDK installed. Of course, since you've been flashing and SBFing, you definitely have those already installed:
Have your phone hooked up to your PC and type "ADB REBOOT BOOTLOADER"
The phone should reboot into the bootloader saying "Starting Fastboot Protocol Support"
When it's rebooted into the bootloader, type this in your DOS command window: "fastboot eom unlock"
Read the warnings. This WILL reformat your phone so be sure you've backed it up.
Tap Volume Down to switch to "Accept"
Now press Volume Up to actually "accept" the warning.
After that, you should be unlocked and formatted IF the bootloader and kernel were unlocked.
I could be wrong, but that's what I've read before.
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Good deal, I can do that for sure. I will make sure to update everyone as soon as anything comes through.
I won't be able to do any of the testing until I get home from work (roughly 6:30 central time) but I will keep trying to update throughout the day.
Thanks guys.
No updates have started to roll out yet....
Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
gaad0701 said:
Good deal, I can do that for sure. I will make sure to update everyone as soon as anything comes through.
I won't be able to do any of the testing until I get home from work (roughly 6:30 central time) but I will keep trying to update throughout the day.
Thanks guys.
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Still no update, nothing to report tonight probably. Hopefully I get something tomorrow so I have something to do at work...
Sent from my DROID X2
For those of you considering doing the update, you might want to take a look at these two threads on RootzWiki: rooted before update and important information regarding .621 update (I'm sure there are XDA equivalents of this by now, but these are two threads I'd been following previously for my brother's DX.)
Apparently using OTA rootkeeper (and ADB in some cases) it should be possible to keep root after the sbf *IF* you have SU backed up on /system/! SU cannot (CAN NOT) be restored from the SD card. Of course, any SBF/factory restore will lose SU and you'll be SOL until that gets sorted. Another problem (for us) is that we do not yet have an SBF file for this, so if anything goes awry, you could (potentially, not necessarily) be looking at a nice expensive paper weight until the SBF gets leaked.
This was also mentioned in the DX information thread, but if anyone is brave enough to update from rooted stock (using OTA Rootkeeper) and could get a nandroid, it could potentially be useful for anyone in the know (read: devs) to see what has changed in the update, so that we can examine alternative root methods. Unfortunately, most devs have moved onto newer/better phones so this may take a bit, but there is still a lot of dev for the DX (and the dx2 of course) so hopefully we can get something going (and presumably any exploit found on either phone should hopefully be useful for the other.)
Hey ibolski if VZW is reaching out it's a good thing.. Even if nothing is going to change in terms of their policy. Take the opportunity to reach out to them and let them know how we feel. Perhaps they can understand or at least listen to how HTC customers can feel better about unlocked bootloaders.
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coolpoete said:
Hey ibolski if VZW is reaching out it's a good thing.. Even if nothing is going to change in terms of their policy. Take the opportunity to reach out to them and let them know how we feel. Perhaps they can understand or at least listen to how HTC customers can feel better about unlocked bootloaders.
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I've tried. After I started doing that, the replies via twitter stopped. Figures.
listen I'm not saying anything, but just mentioning: I just tried to root my dad's Droid 2 Global and bricked it because the D2G got a "security update" around a week ago that kills root (Duh) and if you try to sbf back down it causes the phone to hard brick.
Now that may not be the case with this- who knows, that particular update went from 2.3.3 to to 2.3.4 and obv this one probably isn't going to update the kernel/bootloader/god knows but even still I find the closeness in time for these two OTAs suspicious, so be careful my flashaholic friends
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So here's my story, I am not entirely new to rooting as I have successfully rooted my Motorola Droid, My Droid X2, My Acer Iconia a500 (twice), My aunts Lg something, and my mothers Kindle Fire.
So a few days ago my Droid X2 started acting up, and would go hours on end sometimes without working.
I was very happy to find out that Verizon would replace it with no hassle as it was less than a year old. I got the replacement yesterday and it's working great... that is until I found out it came stock with 2.3.5 right out of the box.
Now I have always trusted XDA forums and have used them for a long time (although I finally just registered today to ask this)
The only root method I can find is to downgrade to 2.3.4 and then root, then install voodoo root protector, then upgrade.
Now I saw a few things about possibilities of bricking your phone when trying to read those tutorials (I have never had to downgrade before) and I was a bit concerned.
I was mainly wondering, I don't care about loosing data on the phone. I have a backup sd card I can use if I need to format that, and like I said, the phone is new and actually doesnt have a single app I have installed on it yet.
Is there any easy way to go back down to 2.3.4 for my situation? I just got the free phone and don't want to brick it a day later you know?
From what I gather, you can SBF back down to 2.3.4 with no problem. There may be a certain way you have to do it though. I have never been on stock 2.3.5 so I cant tell you from experience. But Everyone says it's possible.
That's my question in a nutshell
Yeah, I read a tutorial about how to do it using RSDlite, which I downloaded to my comp.
Now what I'm cautious about is white file to use. One of the tutorials had one, now while I know a tiny bit about rooting I know NOTHING about flashing it back, I wasn't sure if there was a way that this could screw up my phone, as it seems everything tested is with a phone that had already been rooted, or if there is anything phone specific in that file, or even if it actually is an OTA original (I'd rather not mess around with anything customized right now)
Whatever is the easiest method for getting be back down, I know how to take it from there as I've done it before.
Thanks for the response though!
Excolo said:
Yeah, I read a tutorial about how to do it using RSDlite, which I downloaded to my comp.
Now what I'm cautious about is white file to use. One of the tutorials had one, now while I know a tiny bit about rooting I know NOTHING about flashing it back, I wasn't sure if there was a way that this could screw up my phone, as it seems everything tested is with a phone that had already been rooted, or if there is anything phone specific in that file, or even if it actually is an OTA original (I'd rather not mess around with anything customized right now)
Whatever is the easiest method for getting be back down, I know how to take it from there as I've done it before.
Thanks for the response though!
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So you have never used an SBF file? If you would have used it on your broken Droid X2 when it wasnt acting right, it might have fixed your phone. An SBF file simply wipes everything of your phone (excluding your SD card) and flashes brand new software on it. The SBF files are provided by Motorola so its not like you are using something made by a dev and can break your phone easily. You should be able to use RSD lite to flash the 2.3.4 SBF file and you should be fine. But then again, I have never SBF'd from 2.3.5 to 2.3.4 personally so I would feel bad saying go ahead with no worries and something bad happen. So wait for someone else to respond first.
Thanks!
Thanks for that info!
Also, I doubt that would have fixed my old phone, it seems pretty much like a hardware issue. The screen will display static for hours on end (think like an old tv if you didnt have cable plugged in) I think it's a loose connection somewhere or something. I didn't bother to really troubleshoot it myself though because I was like "lets see if Verizon will give me a new one" and they did, and because they didnt have any "replacements" i got a brand new one, with a brand new battery, so I wasn't going to argue the fact
Anyway, if the file is from Motorola where can I get it? I saw on a verizon forum that they were not allowed to post it there (or is it "from motorola" in the sense it was leaked?)
Thanks for all your help so far, you've been great!
Excolo said:
Thanks for that info!
Also, I doubt that would have fixed my old phone, it seems pretty much like a hardware issue. The screen will display static for hours on end (think like an old tv if you didnt have cable plugged in) I think it's a loose connection somewhere or something. I didn't bother to really troubleshoot it myself though because I was like "lets see if Verizon will give me a new one" and they did, and because they didnt have any "replacements" i got a brand new one, with a brand new battery, so I wasn't going to argue the fact
Anyway, if the file is from Motorola where can I get it? I saw on a verizon forum that they were not allowed to post it there (or is it "from motorola" in the sense it was leaked?)
Thanks for all your help so far, you've been great!
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Yeah, it does sounds like it was a hardware problem. Actually, I never thought about if motorola had a list of sbf files somewhere or if they were just leaked or what. I always downloaded them from threads like these. I just know they are made by motorola. You got me curious now. hmmm...
Duh
forget about my question as to where to get them, just saw the sticky at the front of this forum.
Although, it would be interesting to know if they were officially given out by motorola or leaked
Excolo said:
forget about my question as to where to get them, just saw the sticky at the front of this forum.
Although, it would be interesting to know if they were officially given out by motorola or leaked
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What's An SBF File?
• SBF Is A File Leaked By Motorola That Is The System Image Flashed By RSDLite.
Taken from the Motorola Droid X2 FAQ page here
Excolo said:
So here's my story, I am not entirely new to rooting as I have successfully rooted my Motorola Droid, My Droid X2, My Acer Iconia a500 (twice), My aunts Lg something, and my mothers Kindle Fire.
So a few days ago my Droid X2 started acting up, and would go hours on end sometimes without working.
I was very happy to find out that Verizon would replace it with no hassle as it was less than a year old. I got the replacement yesterday and it's working great... that is until I found out it came stock with 2.3.5 right out of the box.
Now I have always trusted XDA forums and have used them for a long time (although I finally just registered today to ask this)
The only root method I can find is to downgrade to 2.3.4 and then root, then install voodoo root protector, then upgrade.
Now I saw a few things about possibilities of bricking your phone when trying to read those tutorials (I have never had to downgrade before) and I was a bit concerned.
I was mainly wondering, I don't care about loosing data on the phone. I have a backup sd card I can use if I need to format that, and like I said, the phone is new and actually doesnt have a single app I have installed on it yet.
Is there any easy way to go back down to 2.3.4 for my situation? I just got the free phone and don't want to brick it a day later you know?
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bro, you wont have any problems downgrading/sbfing back to 2.3.4, i did it without any problems
i used sbf_flash through linux though idk about RSDLite
Here is a conversation I had over at Motorola Live Chat. Looks like If you rooted your phone your not going to get the ICS update over the air
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
ME: Oh hi
ME: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
ME: Why havn't I recieved it?
Denz: We apologize for the inconvenience. Please allow me to assist you with that.
Denz: May I know your location?
ME: Phoenix
Denz: Please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the IMEI.
ME: serial number of my phone?
Denz: Yes.
ME: ***********
Denz: I will need to check some performance related information from your device will that be okay?
ME: what are you checking?
ME: Data speeds?
Denz: I will need to check the eligibility of your phone for ICS
ME: oh ok
Denz: Thanks. One moment.
Denz: Has the software been modified?
ME: Software?
Denz: The operating system. Have you "rooted" or downloaded a 3rd party OS/software/
ME: Im not very techie what do you mean?
ME: Oh I ley my brother root my phone
ME: So I can't get the OYA?
Denz: I see.
Denz: Hold on.
ME: OTA*
Denz: You still have the option the option of sending your device in and paying for a repair evaluation.The flat rate repair fee for rooted devices is currently the same as the Out Of Warranty fee That's $159 plus tax.
ME: Repair what?
ME: My phone works
Denz: Yes, the only way we could get it back to the original version so you can get the ICS update is to send the phone in.
ME: Lol how am i supposed to get phone calls from important ppl?
ME: you guys are funny
ME: Ill ask my bro what i need to do
ME: Thx for the help anyway
Denz: I understand where you're coming from. Prior to the update and since we released the phone, we had
Denz: advised phone users not to root the phone because they may not get future updates.
Denz: I'm sorry but you have the option to send it in.
ME: lol wish i got that advise. ive been getiing system updates
Denz: I mean specifically for ICS update.
ME: Thats fine no problem im sure my brother has a solutuion
Denz: Okay then. Is there anything else you need assistance with?
ME: No you have a nice day sir/ma'am
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Ignore this !!!!! I received the download and I am still rooted. Well don't ignore the fact that the Moto employee tried to sham me out of 159 bucks also ignore my bad grammer plox!
So if your phone is rooted you may or may not get the OTA ans WILL have to sideload.
It doesn't really matter if you've already side loaded now does it. Don't worry with silly moto. Just do with your phone what you wish and forget their silly nonsense. And I'm with the countless others that have stated in other threads. I believe they have some kind of tracking software that they aren't telling us about. I'm not saying its the same as carrier IQ but I'm sure its something similar.
That's crap I had my phone rooted prior to .181 and I got the ics OTA. Granted I lost root after .181 and I did a factory reset before getting .181. So that shouldn't be the problem.
My wife has a maxx and has never rooted or anything ans she still hasn't gotten ICS
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It is ofc bull****.
Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
Lol well know they have my serial number and the fact that im rooted so ill have to sideload later tonight when i have time. I also may wait a few days just to see how accurate this employees facts are.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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that is not true...i used razr utility to reverty back to stock .181 and had re-rooted it....then side loaded the official OTA .211 with razr utility 1.7 .....not a problem since !!!
just one thing i havent figured out is, how do i go back to stock .181 so i can recieve the OTA, like i said, i have had not one issue with sideloading it myself but i would still like to see the actual OTA...it would satisfy me lol
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I too was wondering. My folks got the OTA yesterday, on non-rooted MAXX's. My MAXX, rooted, has nothing.
Am I out of luck, and will I have to side-load the ICS?
I guess the question is anyone with root not in soak recieve OTA yet?
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Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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lucidvtec said:
Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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They didn't even ask....
George: Hi, my name is George. How may I help you?
Tim Timmons: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
Tim Timmons: I still haven't gotten it, but my folks with MAXX phones, have.
Tim Timmons: and we live in the same town
Tim Timmons: ??
George: Sorry for that wait
George: We do apologize for the inconvenience. Do not worry, we will do our best to assist you on this.
George: Let me check that for you
Tim Timmons: thanks
George: Now I need the system number of the phone just for a documentation purposes, May I have it please?
George: The system version will be Setting > About phone > System Version
Tim Timmons: XXXXXXXXXXX(IEMEI)
George: Thank you
George: I have tried to check this information in my end and I regret to say that we do not have the exact date about when will be release.however the Update is been going on at the moment. .the update will be pushed out by Motorola in batches to all users over a few week time period.So kindly wait for the notification to be send to your phone.
Tim Timmons: 6.12.181.xt912.verizon.en.us
Tim Timmons: But how is it sent - by locale, or what?
Tim Timmons: and how did you check? You asked for version info, and before I gave it to you, you had a canned response....Can you check again, please?
George: It's gonna be send randomly
George: Yes, I was able to check with my system. sorry, i only needed your system version for documentation purposes.
George: The update will randomly send by our Engineer. And it all users will receive the update batches to batches in over a few week time period.
Just went to Moto's website and did the chat with rep. They explained to me that they are still doing just the test users at this point with Verizon customers and that I will most likely be receiving it over the next couple of weeks.
The "Supervisor" I spoke with later was able to tell me that they can check via a application they have, if I am rooted, my IP, and a few other things.
And......those that are stock, rooted, will not get the OTA.
I don't know whether to wait impatiently, or attempt side-loading ICS.
I just talked to them to and the serial number some how tells them that the device has been rooted.
I even unrooted just to see.
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Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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Pretty sure I saw a few posts in the forum from people who got the update while rooted, just they lost root and rerooted.
Team420 said:
Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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I'm rooted and sideloaded ics.
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cheatthepocket said:
Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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On here mickievminnie has an on device way that i used and is very straight forward. It might hang up at one or two points but then you just redo it.
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so it sounds like they can tell if your rooted and even if you unroot with voodoo ota rootkeeper they can still see that your phone is root and maybe they will not be sending out the ota to us rooted folks so maybe it is wise to unroot for a couple of days or a week just to see what happens
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
nived09 said:
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I can almost guarantee you that the OTA will be installed on it and you will not be able to do anything with it until an exploit is found.
The root and S-off process is very easy if you are on the old firmware.
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Got a few -new in box cause I convinced a few retarded reps referbs were the issue- from Verizon n one from amazon. All 2.04
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Yea, I just got it an hour or so ago and booted right into the loader and asked in the IRC and I guess the OTA
was already accepted, so I'm sol for a bit.
Not even going to bother activating it, since I mainly use root for tethering.
I picked up the DNA in San Diego from BB for an upgrade on Verizon. It came with Software 1.15.605.4 710RD. I've s-off'd, root'd & TWRP'd with ease. Now I just need CM10.1 and I'll be happy.
I might fly to France and b-slap the CEO of the company who put the DCMA in.
using fat fingers. I have been avoiding update by hitting LATER since update 1st offered, to keep my options open. I saw a white box with the android guy standing by while it was either unpacking or downloading, so I pulled the battery. Every time I put battery in it goes back to the start of unpacking box.. I believe the phone is completely stock, no roms,mods, etc. I bought it used about a year ago, and am happy with stock so far. It was supposedly factory reset by previous owner. 1st question: Is there another failsafe point after the unpack where I can choose NOT to install update? (that would be so easy, right?) If not, what else can I do to avid update.I am a complete NEWB, but follow detailed directions well. THANK YOU ANYONE AND EVERYONE in advance for any assistance you can provide. Two other pieces of info. 1) Sprint Photon. 2) I have taken it offline so it is not active on network at this moment. Issue occurred last night.
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using fat fingers. I have been avoiding update by hitting LATER since update 1st offered, to keep my options open. I saw a white box with the android guy standing by while it was either unpacking or downloading, so I pulled the battery. Every time I put battery in it goes back to the start of unpacking box.. I believe the phone is completely stock, no roms,mods, etc. I bought it used about a year ago, and am happy with stock so far. It was supposedly factory reset by previous owner. 1st question: Is there another failsafe point after the unpack where I can choose NOT to install update? (that would be so easy, right?) If not, what else can I do to avid update.I am a complete NEWB, but follow detailed directions well. THANK YOU ANYONE AND EVERYONE in advance for any assistance you can provide. Two other pieces of info. 1) Sprint Photon. 2) I have taken it offline so it is not active on network at this moment. Issue occurred last night.
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I think youre stuck with the install
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It will boot to "Starting RSD protocol support" on top of screen w/no unpack or further change if I volume up/power button. Still screwed?
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It will boot to "Starting RSD protocol support" on top of screen w/no unpack or further change if I volume up/power button. Still screwed?
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Try flashing a sbf file that may help
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try rsd flashing the 2.3.4 sbf and hope that the bootloader hasn't been upgraded yet. that's all i can think of.
Thanks all for your replies. Being a complete noob at this, can someone point me at a file location and detailed flashing instuctions? I would be
MOST greatful.
I have been doing HOURS of reading here on XDA. Now find I can boot into FASTBOOT mode with all of the various sub menus.What if anything next to try? What is FASTBOOT? a service mode? Is there a recovery/restore built into this thing? If so, I may still have some data available that everyone seemed to be looking for some months ago.....2.3.4 stock and unlocked. TIA
Have you tried a factory reset in the menus.
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Have you tried a factory reset in the menus.
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Screwed by Google. Canceled ICS upgrade on my Moto Photon. No Wow for us.
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Confessions of a TRUE NOOBand a chuckle/or sob) from you all. Yesterday, in frustration, I called Sprint, asking for tech support level2. Didn't get there, but level one did check with lvl2, who said, "stores should have ALL versions of software for reinstall" Lvl 1 checks with a large trusted Sprint repair store directly, who says "YEAH we have software" I race over, a half hour before closing. They look at phone. Tried a bunch of things. NO JOY. We only have the software on the server to down load, that MOTO sends Sprint. Current only. 2.3.5 ONLY! SQUARE ONE.
To answer your question, yes, I and others have tried to run factory reset, but it appears to be unpacking the new software as described above, so it has been aborted by pulling battery.
I am ALMOST resigned to 2.3.5 so I can get my phone back. I don't have the time, mental energy, or maybe the smarts some of the you folks do, I live vicariously thru what I read about. Note my join date. Been here since Sprint MM-9000/original Touch/TP2. I'll hang out for a while to see if any miracle ideas appear, and thanks to all.:fingers-crossed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94VcWk-CJc
You are welcome, full youtube tutorial.
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Thank you for the link, I skimmed it, will watch a couple more times, take notes, assemble all the parts, and give it a try. It may be what I was looking for, I'll report back in a couple days
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dwegiel said:
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Thank you for the link, I skimmed it, will watch a couple more times, take notes, assemble all the parts, and give it a try. It may be what I was looking for, I'll report back in a couple days
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It should work, the bootloader does not lock until the installation is near complete (if I'm not mistaken).
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dwegiel said:
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Thank you for the link, I skimmed it, will watch a couple more times, take notes, assemble all the parts, and give it a try. It may be what I was looking for, I'll report back in a couple days
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Hey All, is there any program, or Motocast, that might be able to strip off my phone book from this Photon in its present state, or a way to find the file, or is it fotunately or unfortunately stored by big brother GOOG and could be restored if I get back to 2.3.4? TIA
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Does this means that, if you have a 2.3.5, you can take it back to 2.3.4 and then unlock the booter? Still trying to get JB on mine...
jjamesss said:
Does this means that, if you have a 2.3.5, you can take it back to 2.3.4 and then unlock the booter? Still trying to get JB on mine...
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Nope youre stuck like everyone else
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Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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whizinc said:
Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
ultimo123 said:
i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
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yeah i think the Skilled XDA guys just gave up on this phone and its a shame that these skilled guys couldnt figure out a way to unlock this MoPhon atleast we can start work on this again COME ON Guys! the thread is being inactive please show some humanity.
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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i am afraid to tell you brother but there is no development under process of photon 4g the people on 2.3.5 are locked for good and its a misery for the developers too that they couldnt unlock it.. A replacement of another new model will be the only way to use new android versions lol :good:
check out Motorolla Moto G it has official upgrade of kitkat its affordable too :good:
photon
.. I've photon 2.3.5 and locked for sure.. hoping on dev to get a way out there..
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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brother we are talking about the bootloader unlock of photon 4g devices on 2.3.5 please clear that did you unlocked the bootloader or just unlocked your phone?? and whats your the problem you are facing now? let me know. I can help
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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if you have your photon with you right now then take a look at its bootloader open it and it must say UNLOCKED if not then your bootloader is still locked..
so the modem error comes and the mobile doesn't works?? I think its a hardware problem as far as i know
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
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what really? it says unlocked that it means the bootloader is unlocked how the hell did you unlocked your bootloader on 2.3.5? you have to remember it brother?
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
A friend brought me a photon of his he is wanting to use with straight talk Sim , It is on 2.3.5 ota I believe but don't know . Have tried to unlock the boot loader but keep getting (FAILED (remote: (00180001))) when I try to get the unlock key. It has root but does not register the straight talk Sim and I felt unlocking the boot loader would help me fix this issue but am finding I can't .can anyone help am open to any suggestions. Pls know though I am still learning how to use the adb, fastboot, and know little about rsd (can't get it to even pick up the phone)
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
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woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
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Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
boxorandyos said:
woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
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Forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know, but here are a few random tidbits of info:
The OTA update blew a hardware fuse which somehow prevents bootloader unlock by any known methods
The only ROMs that can be flashed with the bootloader locked are ones using the stock kernel as-is, like peetr's ROM, so I think your guess about the kernel image becoming set in stone is correct.
Don't know anything else but I also have an OTA-locked one which I could run stuff on and get you output, if you want it, and an unlocked one (pre OTA update) running CM9. As long as it doesn't mess up my devices I could provide you with debug info.
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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I will try an remember to get back to you
there is one thing I was just thinking about that I do remember thinking about afterwards. whatever I did that made it work may have stemmed from what I later discovered was a corrupted file. I remember downloading file after file and trying to flash dozens of different files. every time I was getting all sorts of errors. suddenly tho I got a different error and after that when I would try throwing commands at the phone I would get completely different responses. my memory is very limited of it all but I thought I was completely screwed.
somehow tho I suddenly had a phone with the pre ota software on it.
whatever exactly it was that I messed up I have no clue without trying to re create the story.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
Hey guys. Nickman529 here. Sorry I haven't ever updated anything on that thread. I don't have the MoPho anymore but I'd be willing to start up development if someone would wanna send me one or donate the PayPal funds for such. I hear your cries.