Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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not possible. plus that's fraud.
Ik its fraud but wouldnt be fraud from them to lower my speeeds cause i sign a contract for unlimited meaning all i want to use if they drop it to E is like not having internet is useless..... And thank you anyways
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
Want to hide your data usage from AT&T? Use wifi.
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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You can't hide ANY data while using their network. All you can do is hide the fact that you ARE tethering, not that you're using extra data all of a sudden.
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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That's a good point. I'm sure that would work if someone wanted to take AT&T to small claims court. But then again as long as I've had "unlimited" through them, there was always a 5GB cap that was spelled out in the fine print of my contract. The only exception to that was for iPhone users. That's the only reason I switched to an iPhone a couple years back.
What contract? There is no contract for data, only for voice. There are Terms of Service but no contract.
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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Take them to small claims court. They've already lost once before recently for throttling. http://consumerist.com/2012/03/att-writes-check-to-victor-in-small-claims-court-suit.html
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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Switch to Sprint.
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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That's because sprint and Verizon's 3g blows. 3g on ATT is faster than Wimax 4g for sprint in most areas.
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I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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that really sucks that they're limiting you, I assume you're in a busy area and that's going to be expected. Like one of the other posters suggested, try using WiFi. If I recall you can cruise to any place that has AT&T wifi and get it free (like starbucks and McDonalds and sams club) and do your major downloading there. I know that isn't on the go, but if you want a coffee, it isn't the worst suggestion.
I have had the same question for awhile now. I am using Simple mobile 4G unlimited data (so they so boldly advertize until they shut you down). I really wanted to take advantage of the "Mobile on the go". In my vehicle I have Bluetooth that would allow me to stream music on the go (On my long commute through Houston everyday), or use Netflix on that long tripe with the family & tether to my Tablet to take care of business, stream, movies. You get the point.
As for down loading, I am not sure why you would want to do any major downloading through a phone anyway. Using your home network is much better for major downloading.
This is my experience with ATT Unlimited Data Plan:
I got grandfathered into the unlimited data plan through my old iphone original, if my memory serves me correct. I don't use data heavily like some of you do and I tether infrequently. Last summer, we were at a community swimming pool where we live and I let my daughter to tether to my Samsung android phone. My daughter at the time had an iphone 3gs. About two weeks later, I got a nasty message from att telling me that they noticed that I was tethering and that they will put me on an appropriate data plan if I don't call them back. So, I called and played dumb and they told me that if I ever tether again, they will go ahead and terminate my unlimited data plan.
I received a Samsung Note 10.1 (model #8013) for christmas, and guess what? I have tethered the tablet to my android phone, thinking they won't notice the android traffic coming from an android phone. I have been careful, not downloading tablet-specific apps from the play store and such. Also, I only tether when there's no wifi, it's the last resort. It's been over a month and I haven't heard from them. I am sure ATT is chomping at the bits to get me so they can get rid of one more unlimited data user.
Am I committing a fraud? Maybe. I'd like to think I am engaging in a civil disobedience against an unjust power.
Isn't AT&T also committing a fraud, when they are advertisizing "unlimited" when in fact there's a limit?
The amount of data is unlimited. And they do warn you if you go above a certain amount they will throttle you down. And they let you know the plan is for one phone only and offer you a tethering add-on. They offer thousands of free hotspots for heavy downloaders and give you an app to find them.
Its their superhighway - you just pay the tolls and follow the rules. You don't like them, but it's not fraud on their part.
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I have the samsung vibrant and recently downloaded pda net so I can tether my phone. then this morning I wake to a discouraging text message that says my data has been slowed for the billing cycle. definitely a problem for me. because according to my contract I have unlimited 3g data not capped 3g. is there any way around this.
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Yea I got that too but I still got 3g connection
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Wrong, the contract says unlimited data. It doesn't specify a speed.
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Wrong, the contract says unlimited data. It doesn't specify a speed.
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And being that that contract actually says unlimited I should the able to call them and have them give me back my full speed
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And being that that contract actually says unlimited I should the able to call them and have them give me back my full speed
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u dont get it right?
unlimited data doesnt mean unlimited full speed
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I don't think they're capping your data. They're capping your speed, slowing down your data connection. So when they say unlimited data, it still is unlimited data. I'm no longer a T-Mo customer, but from what I remember, they don't guarantee speeds.
Just so it is clear. Read your T&C for more details.
T-MobileUSA recently started enforcing data throttling. This is different from a data cap. Specifically, if you use more than 5gb of data in your billing cycle, T-mo may throttle your speed down to a slower speed. This is to discourage people from tethering their phones to their computers for internet, and push the use of their usb data rockets.
A simple google search for "tmobile data throttling" will provide you with even more information.
Yea thats right. After hitting the 5gb data usage you get that txt msg and supposedly they will throttle to a lower speed. But like I mentioned before. They didnt do that to me. So OP. Check first before you want to complain. And yes its unlimited data. Just be glad tmo doesnt charge us more for hitting past 5gb. Other carriers throttle past 2gb. I know before our cap was 10gb.
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Yea thats right. After hitting the 5gb data usage you get that txt msg and supposedly they will throttle to a lower speed. But like I mentioned before. They didnt do that to me. So OP. Check first before you want to complain. And yes its unlimited data. Just be glad tmo doesnt charge us more for hitting past 5gb. Other carriers throttle past 2gb. I know before our cap was 10gb.
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Yeah definetly must have over looked that part in a fit of I just got throttled rage
Well I think in turn all t-mobile users should tether their phones and attack data intensive sites and devour the limitless data
Hopefully they add a solution for tethering because the vibrant is due to get froyo and the ability too tether is included without apps even a 5 dollar fee to prevent throttled data would be nice
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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that's not true, I have used well over 5 gb and have never tethered my phone. downloading roms takes a lot of usage. I am on verizon though and never been throttled
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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I don't tether or download torrents or anything like that with my data plan. I dont even download ROMs. What I do use it for is to use applications on my phone like the MediaHUB, beyondPOD and amazonMP3 and i watch tv shows, movies and pod casts and buy music. you know, like the Avatar movie that came with my phone so they could show off how great it is for doing that sort of thing.
To then throttle my speed because I use the phone to download content from apps that come installed on my phone when I bought it is bull. They claim that only 1% use over 5GB a month, but that is the same thing they said when it was at 10GB throttle point. Is that 1% counted from only the people that have unlimited data plans? do they include phones that don't have really have many apps that are data centric, like the sidekicks, blackberrys and even winmo... Are they going to throttle everyone that exceeds 5GB a month on the Galaxy S Tab too?
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I don't tether or download torrents or anything like that with my data plan. I dont even download ROMs. What I do use it for is to use applications on my phone like the MediaHUB, beyondPOD and amazonMP3 and i watch tv shows, movies and pod casts and buy music. you know, like the Avatar movie that came with my phone so they could show off how great it is for doing that sort of thing.
To then throttle my speed because I use the phone to download content from apps that come installed on my phone when I bought it is bull. They claim that only 1% use over 5GB a month, but that is the same thing they said when it was at 10GB throttle point. Is that 1% counted from only the people that have unlimited data plans? do they include phones that don't have really have many apps that are data centric, like the sidekicks, blackberrys and even winmo... Are they going to throttle everyone that exceeds 5GB a month on the Galaxy S Tab too?
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I don't download torrents I tether my phone to my home computer because its easier to work with a full keyboard (not too mention streaming netflix).
The fact that they cripple or cap the functionality of the data is unfair. I understand that they have a data modem that they try to promote but they shouldn't force you into its arm's.
I still ask what they will do when FroYo introduces tethering ... Will they cap everyone who exceeds the 5 gb limit
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You did agree to the terms and conditions of their service, right?
It may have changed since you signed up, but here is the current one:
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...&PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
Some of the highlights that I believe have not changed for a few years now are:
Number 1. Acceptance.
Number 5. Our Rights to Make Changes.
Unfortunately those two topics are seen with almost any provider. You can continue with T-mobile and pay less per month, or you can always go to Verizon where they (so far) haven't put a throttle in place and pay more per month.
I thought they already announced a tethering plan for an additional 15$ with the unlimited data so 40$ a month is what it still cost .well in my neck of the woods
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T-mobile is planning on charging for tethering just like every other company is already doing..You should be happy your able to get more than 2gb unlike at&t..The cap was 10gb before they introduced Hspa+ I'm not complaining..Like i said be happy you actually have unlimited data
Wow I don't think you realise how lucky you are being capped at 5gb.... here in the UK most networks cap "unlimited" at 500mb! I'm with vodafone and I get 1gb, if I exceed that then I instantly get charged £5 per 500mb (even 1kb over and I'm charged!)
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Im on vodafone uk and theu told me i had unlimited data but its only one gb cap ****ing lying scum bags
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I don't download torrents I tether my phone to my home computer because its easier to work with a full keyboard (not too mention streaming netflix).
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Wait...so you use your phone as your home internet connection?
Edit: Also, saying you want everyone to start tethering their phones and basically flood their network, to punish them? More than likely that would just cause them to put a data cap on their plans, like every other provider is doing. I'm on Verizon, so I don't care, but shooting yourself in the foot isn't exactly smart.
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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it is SOOOOO EASY to get that much data usage ON a phone. Simply just keep pandora or other internet radio constantly running along with the fact that you can multi-task and use data for other **** too and before you know it you're over 5gb
I'm using a Vibrant on a tmobile network. For some reason today my 3g decided not to work. So i went on the Tmobile website and it told me that i needed a 4G plan for my vibrant. i chose the 30 dollars unlimited 3g but i also want texting. on the messing page they have:
Unlimited Domestic Messages More ways to share what\'s happening in your world, from unexpected moments to unexpected gossip. Send and receive any type of message you want, in any combination. $14.99
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Unlimited Domestic Messages Unlimited domestic text, pic, and video messages. $10.00
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What are the differences? lol.
Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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How is the tethering plan will boost your signal?
To the OP, did you go over 5GB of data in your billing cycle? Did you use your phone as a tether?
DEFINITIONOFREAL said:
Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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Huh?
Anyways, the so-called 4g does make a dramatic difference even with the Vibrant. Where I live, I went from around 1mbps down to 3-5mbps down (speed based on speedtest.net app). My ripoff p.o.s. ISP limits my speed to only 3mbps because I don't pay an extra 15-30 dollars a month. Recently I was downloading a large file, and out of curiosity I switched in the middle of downloading from my local ISP to tethering my phone via wifi. The download speed was around 1.66 times faster, peaking at speeds almost twice as fast. In other words, the speedtest.net results, which suggest hspa+ on my Vibrant is significantly faster than my 3mbps ISP, were validated.
Secondly, data plans cost the same regardless if you have access to hspa+ or not.
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Huh?
Anyways, the so-called 4g does make a dramatic difference even with the Vibrant. Where I live, I went from around 1mbps down to 3-5mbps down (speed based on speedtest.net app). My ripoff p.o.s. ISP limits my speed to only 3mbps because I don't pay an extra 15-30 dollars a month. Recently I was downloading a large file, and out of curiosity I switched in the middle of downloading from my local ISP to tethering my phone via wifi. The download speed was around 1.66 times faster, peaking at speeds almost twice as fast. In other words, the speedtest.net results, which suggest hspa+ on my Vibrant is significantly faster than my 3mbps ISP, were validated.
Secondly, data plans cost the same regardless if you have access to hspa+ or not.
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Well the 4G plan and the older one is currently the same price. I got unlimited because I will tether. i dont think i need the tethering plan because i have the wifi tethering thing on my vibrant.
The tether plan also boost your 3g
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I think the $10 text plan is only applicable for those who also have the unlimited android plan. I asked my t-mobile dealer about my text plan (after my added an unlimited android plan) and he reduced my monthly text rate (unlimited at $15 to $10).
I'm not 100% sure though
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I'm using a Vibrant on a tmobile network. For some reason today my 3g decided not to work. So i went on the Tmobile website and it told me that i needed a 4G plan for my vibrant. i chose the 30 dollars unlimited 3g but i also want texting. on the messing page they have:
What are the differences? lol.
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Dude seriously? Did you try rebooting your phone? You don't need to upgrade to any plan to continue using 3g. There's no such thing as a "4g plan" that makes your vibrants data speeds any faster. The dude's posting here are blowing smoke up your ass. My vibrant is using the $24 grandfathered plan (4G didnt exist then) and I've been hitting 5Mb's down and 1.5 up. You will see increased data speeds if your local network has been upgraded but that's it. If you lost 3G signal is could be because of weather or service issues in your area or your phone just needs to be restarted. Call t-mo back and switch back to your previous plan if it worked better for you financially. Once again, you will not see a speed boost from any plans that t-mo offers.
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The tether plan also boost your 3g
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False. Stop spewing nonsense. Someone might actually believe it.
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The tether plan also boost your 3g
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I laughed.
so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
Ok. So I have always just had 4G in my area until recently. I have the APN info to run unthrottled. I have an unlimited data plan and I use my phone for tethering my computer and my xboxs at home. Since it is now LTE now my UNTHROTTLED, APN switches on and off randomly and eventually knocks me back to the regular ATT PTA APN. I want to find a way to lock my phone to 4G only so I can stay on the unthrottled APN so I can at least have 2mbps instead of being throttled down to 500kbps a quarter of the way through the month. Which makes it practically impossible to play xbox games online or stream a movie, Download anything is a headache now. The worst part about it is even the LTE maxes out at 5mbps where I live anyways so it's not like I'm getting 21+ like I do in other LTE areas. Is there anyway around this or should I invest in an Android 4G only phone and just use it while at home? Thanks for any help that someone could give me.
Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
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Actually. With the APN I had it never got throttled. I was doing 46gigs+ a month. Never ever got throttled until it knocked me up to LTE and made my phone skip the un throttled APN.
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Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
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46GBs? It's about time you did get throttled. 4G and LTE APN's should both be throttled APNs. Try the 3G APN.
I agree, save some bandwidth for the rest of us. I don't know how you haven't had your account closed down yet, or why you weren't throttled using a particular APN for so long. Must have just been network goofiness, because like rangercaptain said, that's not how AT&T tracks you for throttling anyway.
Edit: Moving to a 3G APN shouldn't matter either. Nor would being on a 2G or 3G-only tower. No matter what I'm connected to, I'm still limited to 5GB/month before getting throttled, because that's where grandfathered LTE plans are set. Doesn't matter if I'm actually using LTE or not, it's per-plan.
46+ Gb? Really???? Unbelievable! No, really. Unbelievable. You must mean 4.6 Gb because you'd be turned off, or at least you'd be getting communications from your carrier. I think either you are telling stories or you don't really know what you are talking about.
Johnus is 100% correct for AT&T. You get 5 Gb unthrottled per unlimited plan. Doesn't matter if you consume that 5 Gb using LTE, 4G, 3G, or string and soup cans.
I'm serious. I was getting months of 46 and more gigs without being throttled using one specific APN. The weird thing is now that yesterday I cut my phone on and all my APNs were gone except the default. They don't mess with me because the last time they tried to take me off unlimited for tethering I caused a big scene and kept on getting my call transfered up to a higher and higher management denying the fact that I did it and threatened them with a lawsuit. I already have a FCC complaint set up against them for throttling since it was never notified of agreed to a change in my plan. I was using a 4G APN that had what looked like corporate **** on it because I to this day can't find the info I had that I put in to get away with it. Now that it's LTE now it cuts 4G to completely off to 4G not allowing me to stay online longer than 15mins before it shuts down. That's all erased somehow now. My tethering file is deleted and I use wifitether app to do my tethering and have not been caught while tethering since I did that over 6months ago and for 6months I have been using about 50g a month
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I guess they won.
It's far from over. I'm over 6gigs now and not throttled. Since using the tweakker APN. And I have been told if you file an FCC complaint they will let you run wide open once it gets filed with them. Usually take a month or two. They have so many lawsuits pending right now they can not deal with another.
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..... And in my area, I assure you that my data usage is not effecting any of you. I live 30miles outside of Memphis TN. In the middle of nowhere. A year ago my phone only picked up in one spot in my entire house. The city is so small they banned any towers for going up because of the fear of radiation. I live around a bunch of ignorant rednecks that use Walmart prepaid phones and the only Internet they know of is Hughes Net and the local library.
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Where can I find a full ATT APN list?
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Really not sure I can take anything you say as serious. That said, if you get anywhere with you supposed FCC filing, you'd be the first. The issue has already been tested and AT&T is on firm ground.
This is how you can take me seriously. That shows my data usage.
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506322704/my-speeds-att-4g-lte-unthrottled
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506322704/my-speeds-att-4g-lte-unthrottled
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My apologies. I gotta admit, the proof is in the pics. I know that ATT would normally go ballistic about this so I don't really understand why you're getting away with it. They really don't care what you use the data for. Normally, all they care about is how much data you've used in a month. You are getting away with murder, my man. Good for you!
It's because they have threatened me in the past. I threatened back and they backed off. But it was before I deleted the tether file and used wifi tether app. They busted me for tethering now they can't. Can't tell what I'm using it for. It's like they try to throttle me at certain times. Randomly now that I have LTE coming thru at my home. I was wondering how many others have figured this out. I guess it is just that I threatened to put a lawsuit on them.
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Another speed test. Just to rub it in a bit. Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you
By the way my Xbox GAMERTAG is junkheadINC for anyone interested in some multiplayer action.
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Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you.
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Can you give some more info on what you did? I'll give it a go and see if i can pull the wool over their eyes, too.
Nice speedtest results. The upload is incredible.
I've been consistently getting 30 mbps easily and I've gone 11 GB into my cycle in 10 days. And my connection has been slow like this for this last 2 days. Network optimization my ass. This is complete crap (MOD edit: profanity removed).
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Sorry, forgot to add the picture and it won't let me edit it on the xda app.
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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Just an FYI, when you select your picture to upload, hit full size and this forum. Tapatalk hosted won't work.
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I'm sure it's already started. I live out in the boondocks (with a tower not far from me that doesn't server any large towns, but DOES service a semi-major highway), and I went over 4.7GB last week and, sure enough, as soon as I went over, BAM! My 12-15mbps speed went down to .5-1.5mbps.
I was tethering, but I don't pull a TON of data each month (I hover around 10-11GB for the month, at the most); I mainly use it as low-latency connections for online games.
there's no way that tower was 'crowded' at that time of night (9PM). Speeds weren't restored until morning.
If they throttle us down to 3mbps its still a lot better that att and tmob throttling down to 56kbps from what I've read previously lol
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Yeah I've heard that the throttling was supposed to be in October but it seems they got the months mixed up. I've been unlimited for years and up to today I haven't experienced any slow down. Where I live is not a congested stress I wouldn't think but that doesn't mean they won't start on me as well. My speed is only around 10 down at anytime with any phone but i wouldn't want to show down much more. I knew sooner or later they would get us. Jesse
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I don't see how is legal to throttle unlimited at 5 gig and not throttle a 10 gig plan at 5 gig.
It seems like it would be but that don't mean they won't do it anyway. Jesse
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Seems like a class action suite may be in order.
What I would like to see is how the "average" of 4.7 GB was calculated.
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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I could use 10 GB in a day, easily. Downloaded a couple 3GB 1080p movies in that time period. I use it for my girlfriend's house as a wifi hotspot constantly. I use it for streaming Netflix. Once my 2 TB portable hard drive comes in. I'm going to start my quest for using 1 TB of data in a month as one final screw you to Verizon
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Heck I can easily use 10GB in one day downloading ROMs. Certainly can use 10GB in 10 days using my Slingbox as well. Not that hard at all to do.
Thankfully I haven't seen the optimization happen yet and I am running at about 10gB per month. What will be interesting is how bad it gets when verizon starts turning on all the VoLTE cities and seeing how quickly the unlimited data customers get optimized into hell because they need the bandwidth for the voice data.
Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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still haven't seen any slowdown, but i live in a rural area. As long as they stick to their statement about when they will throttle, i should be fine. Averaging 13gbs a month mostly streaming music and flashing roms.