Ok. So I have always just had 4G in my area until recently. I have the APN info to run unthrottled. I have an unlimited data plan and I use my phone for tethering my computer and my xboxs at home. Since it is now LTE now my UNTHROTTLED, APN switches on and off randomly and eventually knocks me back to the regular ATT PTA APN. I want to find a way to lock my phone to 4G only so I can stay on the unthrottled APN so I can at least have 2mbps instead of being throttled down to 500kbps a quarter of the way through the month. Which makes it practically impossible to play xbox games online or stream a movie, Download anything is a headache now. The worst part about it is even the LTE maxes out at 5mbps where I live anyways so it's not like I'm getting 21+ like I do in other LTE areas. Is there anyway around this or should I invest in an Android 4G only phone and just use it while at home? Thanks for any help that someone could give me.
Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
Actually.....
Actually. With the APN I had it never got throttled. I was doing 46gigs+ a month. Never ever got throttled until it knocked me up to LTE and made my phone skip the un throttled APN.
rangercaptain said:
Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
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46GBs? It's about time you did get throttled. 4G and LTE APN's should both be throttled APNs. Try the 3G APN.
I agree, save some bandwidth for the rest of us. I don't know how you haven't had your account closed down yet, or why you weren't throttled using a particular APN for so long. Must have just been network goofiness, because like rangercaptain said, that's not how AT&T tracks you for throttling anyway.
Edit: Moving to a 3G APN shouldn't matter either. Nor would being on a 2G or 3G-only tower. No matter what I'm connected to, I'm still limited to 5GB/month before getting throttled, because that's where grandfathered LTE plans are set. Doesn't matter if I'm actually using LTE or not, it's per-plan.
46+ Gb? Really???? Unbelievable! No, really. Unbelievable. You must mean 4.6 Gb because you'd be turned off, or at least you'd be getting communications from your carrier. I think either you are telling stories or you don't really know what you are talking about.
Johnus is 100% correct for AT&T. You get 5 Gb unthrottled per unlimited plan. Doesn't matter if you consume that 5 Gb using LTE, 4G, 3G, or string and soup cans.
I'm serious. I was getting months of 46 and more gigs without being throttled using one specific APN. The weird thing is now that yesterday I cut my phone on and all my APNs were gone except the default. They don't mess with me because the last time they tried to take me off unlimited for tethering I caused a big scene and kept on getting my call transfered up to a higher and higher management denying the fact that I did it and threatened them with a lawsuit. I already have a FCC complaint set up against them for throttling since it was never notified of agreed to a change in my plan. I was using a 4G APN that had what looked like corporate **** on it because I to this day can't find the info I had that I put in to get away with it. Now that it's LTE now it cuts 4G to completely off to 4G not allowing me to stay online longer than 15mins before it shuts down. That's all erased somehow now. My tethering file is deleted and I use wifitether app to do my tethering and have not been caught while tethering since I did that over 6months ago and for 6months I have been using about 50g a month
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I guess they won.
It's far from over. I'm over 6gigs now and not throttled. Since using the tweakker APN. And I have been told if you file an FCC complaint they will let you run wide open once it gets filed with them. Usually take a month or two. They have so many lawsuits pending right now they can not deal with another.
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..... And in my area, I assure you that my data usage is not effecting any of you. I live 30miles outside of Memphis TN. In the middle of nowhere. A year ago my phone only picked up in one spot in my entire house. The city is so small they banned any towers for going up because of the fear of radiation. I live around a bunch of ignorant rednecks that use Walmart prepaid phones and the only Internet they know of is Hughes Net and the local library.
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Where can I find a full ATT APN list?
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Really not sure I can take anything you say as serious. That said, if you get anywhere with you supposed FCC filing, you'd be the first. The issue has already been tested and AT&T is on firm ground.
This is how you can take me seriously. That shows my data usage.
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506322704/my-speeds-att-4g-lte-unthrottled
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
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My apologies. I gotta admit, the proof is in the pics. I know that ATT would normally go ballistic about this so I don't really understand why you're getting away with it. They really don't care what you use the data for. Normally, all they care about is how much data you've used in a month. You are getting away with murder, my man. Good for you!
It's because they have threatened me in the past. I threatened back and they backed off. But it was before I deleted the tether file and used wifi tether app. They busted me for tethering now they can't. Can't tell what I'm using it for. It's like they try to throttle me at certain times. Randomly now that I have LTE coming thru at my home. I was wondering how many others have figured this out. I guess it is just that I threatened to put a lawsuit on them.
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Another speed test. Just to rub it in a bit. Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you
By the way my Xbox GAMERTAG is junkheadINC for anyone interested in some multiplayer action.
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Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you.
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Can you give some more info on what you did? I'll give it a go and see if i can pull the wool over their eyes, too.
Nice speedtest results. The upload is incredible.
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I'm using a Vibrant on a tmobile network. For some reason today my 3g decided not to work. So i went on the Tmobile website and it told me that i needed a 4G plan for my vibrant. i chose the 30 dollars unlimited 3g but i also want texting. on the messing page they have:
Unlimited Domestic Messages More ways to share what\'s happening in your world, from unexpected moments to unexpected gossip. Send and receive any type of message you want, in any combination. $14.99
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What are the differences? lol.
Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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DEFINITIONOFREAL said:
Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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How is the tethering plan will boost your signal?
To the OP, did you go over 5GB of data in your billing cycle? Did you use your phone as a tether?
DEFINITIONOFREAL said:
Its not worth it right now chances of u even getting 4g in your area r slim. Besides the vibrabt isnt even set up for it. The tethering plan will boost your signal and think its only 15 a month
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Huh?
Anyways, the so-called 4g does make a dramatic difference even with the Vibrant. Where I live, I went from around 1mbps down to 3-5mbps down (speed based on speedtest.net app). My ripoff p.o.s. ISP limits my speed to only 3mbps because I don't pay an extra 15-30 dollars a month. Recently I was downloading a large file, and out of curiosity I switched in the middle of downloading from my local ISP to tethering my phone via wifi. The download speed was around 1.66 times faster, peaking at speeds almost twice as fast. In other words, the speedtest.net results, which suggest hspa+ on my Vibrant is significantly faster than my 3mbps ISP, were validated.
Secondly, data plans cost the same regardless if you have access to hspa+ or not.
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Huh?
Anyways, the so-called 4g does make a dramatic difference even with the Vibrant. Where I live, I went from around 1mbps down to 3-5mbps down (speed based on speedtest.net app). My ripoff p.o.s. ISP limits my speed to only 3mbps because I don't pay an extra 15-30 dollars a month. Recently I was downloading a large file, and out of curiosity I switched in the middle of downloading from my local ISP to tethering my phone via wifi. The download speed was around 1.66 times faster, peaking at speeds almost twice as fast. In other words, the speedtest.net results, which suggest hspa+ on my Vibrant is significantly faster than my 3mbps ISP, were validated.
Secondly, data plans cost the same regardless if you have access to hspa+ or not.
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Well the 4G plan and the older one is currently the same price. I got unlimited because I will tether. i dont think i need the tethering plan because i have the wifi tethering thing on my vibrant.
The tether plan also boost your 3g
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I think the $10 text plan is only applicable for those who also have the unlimited android plan. I asked my t-mobile dealer about my text plan (after my added an unlimited android plan) and he reduced my monthly text rate (unlimited at $15 to $10).
I'm not 100% sure though
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I'm using a Vibrant on a tmobile network. For some reason today my 3g decided not to work. So i went on the Tmobile website and it told me that i needed a 4G plan for my vibrant. i chose the 30 dollars unlimited 3g but i also want texting. on the messing page they have:
What are the differences? lol.
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Dude seriously? Did you try rebooting your phone? You don't need to upgrade to any plan to continue using 3g. There's no such thing as a "4g plan" that makes your vibrants data speeds any faster. The dude's posting here are blowing smoke up your ass. My vibrant is using the $24 grandfathered plan (4G didnt exist then) and I've been hitting 5Mb's down and 1.5 up. You will see increased data speeds if your local network has been upgraded but that's it. If you lost 3G signal is could be because of weather or service issues in your area or your phone just needs to be restarted. Call t-mo back and switch back to your previous plan if it worked better for you financially. Once again, you will not see a speed boost from any plans that t-mo offers.
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The tether plan also boost your 3g
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False. Stop spewing nonsense. Someone might actually believe it.
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The tether plan also boost your 3g
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I laughed.
So I received a call from Sprint Friday morning, which actually woke me up, and rep told me that I was using too much 4G data and my account would be monitored for the next 10 days and if I continued using so much 4G that my account would be canceled. My data usage isn't anything crazy either.
Has anyone else had this happen?
I was so grogy at the time I didn't really argue with him and hung up the phone. Later that day I thought more and more about it so I called Sprint back trying to find someone who knew about this, after about 5 reps, a dude got me a number for the department that called me. Curiously enough he couldn't even tell me what the department was called, just said it was a small department that only handles these things. Unfortunately they are only open 8-8 M-F so I haven't been able to contact them.
Wow.. that's weird man. Keep us posted.. I'm in phoenix and have access to some of the test 4g area's setup, but don't get to use them often. Hope that's not the case!
Do you mean maybe roaming data? Because I was under the impression that Sprint data was completely unlimited.
I know in General, someone else got calls too but that was about roaming data.
That's weird, keep us posted. But they do crack down on roaming data
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I got a letter saying I was violating my data tems.
I have an Overdrive with a line JUST FOR DATA and use it on 4G ONLY. I haven't used so much as a BYTE on 3G.
I have my EVO 3D with unlimited data and use it primarily on 4G.
If it's NOT unlimited data, don't sell me UNLIMITED DATA
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Do you mean maybe roaming data? Because I was under the impression that Sprint data was completely unlimited.
I know in General, someone else got calls too but that was about roaming data.
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Nope, he said specifically 4G data. Can you even roam on 4G?
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I got a letter saying I was violating my data tems.
I have an Overdrive with a line JUST FOR DATA and use it on 4G ONLY. I haven't used so much as a BYTE on 3G.
I have my EVO 3D with unlimited data and use it primarily on 4G.
If it's NOT unlimited data, don't sell me UNLIMITED DATA
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Exactly... Not to mention I'm being forced to pay extra for 4G, why shouldn't I use as much as I want on an unlimited plan?
I would have a huge problem with this since I left tmobile because of their 5gb limit on data. And had to give up my sweet my touch 4g which I honestly still miss.
That's really weird, considering that there isn't even a way to monitor how much 4G data is being used anyways. The info on the website only reflects 3g data use. I thought 4G was true unlimited.
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I bet the rep was new. Maybe you were roaming 3G. I think we are allowed like 250Mb 3G data while roaming. But you gotta go over that limit several months before they do anything typically. 4G/3G is unlimited on our phones. I don't know of any other Wimax 4G companies besides Sprint and Clear. I use Clear's network everyday for 4G since Sprint doesn't have 4G here. And never had a problem... Sprint does hold half their shares or something.
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That's really weird, considering that there isn't even a way to monitor how much 4G data is being used anyways. The info on the website only reflects 3g data use. I thought 4G was true unlimited.
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Well you may not be able to view how much 4G data your using but Sprint would certainly monitor it.
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I bet the rep was new. Maybe you were roaming 3G. I think we are allowed like 250Mb 3G data while roaming. But you gotta go over that limit several months before they do anything typically. 4G/3G is unlimited on our phones. I don't know of any other Wimax 4G companies besides Sprint and Clear. I use Clear's network everyday for 4G since Sprint doesn't have 4G here. And never had a problem... Sprint does hold half their shares or something.
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Well, he stated I was in violation of the terms of service of 4G and was using too much data, but when I asked him about what terms I was violating he wouldn't state it. The only way they would really know what I was actually using my 4G data for would be if they were doing deep packet inspection on my IP packets. The weird part is I've been using 4G and tether since the Evo 4G came out, and my usage patterns haven't changed much. That's what is really confusing.
interesting, especially seeing how all there commercials are bragging about unlimited data.
what do you normally do with your 4G on a daily basis?
maybe it was for roaming . not 4G , 4G . you must get sick ass signal of 4G whereever you're at on a daily basis haha
Any chance it was a fake call? I've used probably 30GB of 4G some months, no issues.
honestly... i would tell them to kiss my a**... if you happen to call them back or they call u back, tell them just that...
they are not gonna do anything..
y'all getting trolled, dude lying or had a nightmare. sprint 4g is unlimited as is the 3g, its true about roaming though.
sources: sprint documentation and my data usage, i would have been dropped back when i had my hero, my LOWEST data usage was 15gb and i will not quote my max
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y'all getting trolled, dude lying or had a nightmare. sprint 4g is unlimited as is the 3g, its true about roaming though.
sources: sprint documentation and my data usage, i would have been dropped back when i had my hero, my LOWEST data usage was 15gb and i will not quote my max
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I'm not trolling. Here's the number the guy gave me. 18552358851.
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I go along with a friend screwing with you and making the call.
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I go along with a friend screwing with you and making the call.
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Here is another XDA thread I just found. Besides, the call came from a Sprint service number.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137063
That post was about "rooting and tethering for free" and roaming.
Are YOU doing any of these things?
38kb a sec data.. i've seen it as low as 2kb/s
Service was full bars. One dropped as i was taking the screenshot..
Should have just kept T-MO. But the allure of 3D got me..
My parents use sprint, i use Verizon..
and Ive also noticed their speeds to be pathetically slow.
nice job sprint! lol
Funny thing is, the only time I EVER have issues with my 3G speeds are
1) At home when I can always use Wi-Fi
2) At school when I don't need 3G for much anyway
If the service in your area isn't enough for you, then you should switch to another carrier. I wish I could switch to Verizon, but they're more expensive and don't have unlimited data.
Here are my speeds, testing around in various places (school, my house, my girlfriend's house, etc.)
http://www.box.com/s/5eupf1yxfiu4a49ycueb
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Funny thing is, the only time I EVER have issues with my 3G speeds are
1) At home when I can always use Wi-Fi
2) At school when I don't need 3G for much anyway
If the service in your area isn't enough for you, then you should switch to another carrier. I wish I could switch to Verizon, but they're more expensive and don't have unlimited data.
Here are my speeds, testing around in various places (school, my house, my girlfriend's house, etc.)
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I would love to go to VZW.. but i'm stuck in the Sprint contract.
SH4YD33 said:
I would love to go to VZW.. but i'm stuck in the Sprint contract.
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Come Feb if u r getting a discount on a family line u'll be able too! Check this forum for the topic - sprint is nickel and Diming us and u'll see what I mean. I use to have ur speeds but I found the topic about getting ur msl and speeding up ur Internet and now I get around 1400 kps or so!
Flash the Verizon prl
Roam all the time
Profit ????????????
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You sure its not your phone ? I had the worst speed ever on my first EVO 3d did a few test and confirmed it was hardware took it to sprint they confirmed it. New one ran like a champ hauled ass.
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Flash the Verizon prl
Roam all the time
Profit ????????????
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Sprint has a 200meg roaming limit. They will contact u if your always on a VZW tower
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Sprint is that bad north of Detroit. Hopefully LTE gets goin soon
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also, to touch on my previous post..
Not only are the speeds of those i know with sprint phones pathetic..
But the coverage sucks!
4 people in my car...
2 with verizon phones, and 2 with sprint phones..
Drive 30 minutes away to some nice hiking trails...
Before we can even get there..
Both sprint phones have ZERO bars, and a phone call or text cannot be accomplished.
Yet, both verizon phones stay connected without an issue, and keep all bars. lol
Yeah,
"sprint rocks" my ass.
Kidney Poker said:
Sprint has a 200meg roaming limit. They will contact u if your always on a VZW tower
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and then if i continue to do it they cancel me with no etf and i go to a better provider like verizon
SH4YD33 said:
38kb a sec data.. i've seen it as low as 2kb/s
Service was full bars. One dropped as i was taking the screenshot..
Should have just kept T-MO. But the allure of 3D got me..
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Have you done the sprint proxy mod which changes the rtsp and http stuff I tried that recently and it gave me worse speeds than what I had before. Check those.
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38kb a sec data.. i've seen it as low as 2kb/s
Service was full bars. One dropped as i was taking the screenshot..
Should have just kept T-MO. But the allure of 3D got me..
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I feel your pain Bro. I get weak data all over. Except the most random places I get great signal. But work is meager and home is ok, but I use wifi all the time.
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Sorry attempt at a joke.. But do you notice i have full bars and get the speeds in the screen? Its obviously not my fault. And honestly.. if putting my phone inside a vagina would give me better service, I would gladly find a candidate to do the speed-test.
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LMAO, you got thanked for that.
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You sure its not your phone ? I had the worst speed ever on my first EVO 3d did a few test and confirmed it was hardware took it to sprint they confirmed it. New one ran like a champ hauled ass.
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I'm in the East bay Area and its just like that out here Bro. I stay mostly because of M2M minutes and the fact that I have 6 lines on my family plan. I just wish data was better. At my office I am all excited if I hit 300kb, usually in the 100 range. At home I hit like 600-700, but use wifi so it;s a moot point. In the middle of my kids soccer field....1.7mb...seriously...WTF? lol
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Have you done the sprint proxy mod which changes the rtsp and http stuff I tried that recently and it gave me worse speeds than what I had before. Check those.
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I always do this and notice no true difference.
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Have you done the sprint proxy mod which changes the rtsp and http stuff I tried that recently and it gave me worse speeds than what I had before. Check those.
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So the RTSP and HTTP changing them to 0 and 0.0.0.0 gave you worse speeds?
Sprint blows, i have the same issues in michigan with full bars. They are over congested in my area and don't seem to be in any rush to expand thier 3g network(or introduce 4g). At my other house i get low to average speeds though, also with full bars. IMO, you should never see speeds lower than 800 kbps with 3g coverage. Unfortunately, at my house on the east side of Michigan, the data is frequently between 400-800 kbps, though that is still much higher than the speeds i get when im at my apartment on the west side of Michigan.
keep in mind that the competition is almost always pulling 1500-2500 kbps in areas like mine.
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38kb a sec data.. i've seen it as low as 2kb/s
Service was full bars. One dropped as i was taking the screenshot..
Should have just kept T-MO. But the allure of 3D got me..
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Welcome to Sprint.
bloodrain954 said:
You're an idiot, and a troll.
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That's not even trolling.. He's just seeking attention.
Here's mine
Swyped from mah 3vo!
sprint is the only company where I can get the best service at my place. It all depends on locations you can have them but like a router for 4g 3g service in your house.
LOL at least you get "decent" speeds. On my old TP2 I was getting 600 kb now with the 3D I can't get past 32 kb on 3g. If it wasn't for Wimax near me I would be with big red.....sero plan helps. Seems like I got a fancy paper weight when I'm not in a WiMAX area...... Unlimited data so slow you can't use it.
Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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not possible. plus that's fraud.
Ik its fraud but wouldnt be fraud from them to lower my speeeds cause i sign a contract for unlimited meaning all i want to use if they drop it to E is like not having internet is useless..... And thank you anyways
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
Want to hide your data usage from AT&T? Use wifi.
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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You can't hide ANY data while using their network. All you can do is hide the fact that you ARE tethering, not that you're using extra data all of a sudden.
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
camaroz28 said:
Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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That's a good point. I'm sure that would work if someone wanted to take AT&T to small claims court. But then again as long as I've had "unlimited" through them, there was always a 5GB cap that was spelled out in the fine print of my contract. The only exception to that was for iPhone users. That's the only reason I switched to an iPhone a couple years back.
What contract? There is no contract for data, only for voice. There are Terms of Service but no contract.
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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Take them to small claims court. They've already lost once before recently for throttling. http://consumerist.com/2012/03/att-writes-check-to-victor-in-small-claims-court-suit.html
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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Switch to Sprint.
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
tri0xinn said:
down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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That's because sprint and Verizon's 3g blows. 3g on ATT is faster than Wimax 4g for sprint in most areas.
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jeanmauri90 said:
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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that really sucks that they're limiting you, I assume you're in a busy area and that's going to be expected. Like one of the other posters suggested, try using WiFi. If I recall you can cruise to any place that has AT&T wifi and get it free (like starbucks and McDonalds and sams club) and do your major downloading there. I know that isn't on the go, but if you want a coffee, it isn't the worst suggestion.
I have had the same question for awhile now. I am using Simple mobile 4G unlimited data (so they so boldly advertize until they shut you down). I really wanted to take advantage of the "Mobile on the go". In my vehicle I have Bluetooth that would allow me to stream music on the go (On my long commute through Houston everyday), or use Netflix on that long tripe with the family & tether to my Tablet to take care of business, stream, movies. You get the point.
As for down loading, I am not sure why you would want to do any major downloading through a phone anyway. Using your home network is much better for major downloading.
This is my experience with ATT Unlimited Data Plan:
I got grandfathered into the unlimited data plan through my old iphone original, if my memory serves me correct. I don't use data heavily like some of you do and I tether infrequently. Last summer, we were at a community swimming pool where we live and I let my daughter to tether to my Samsung android phone. My daughter at the time had an iphone 3gs. About two weeks later, I got a nasty message from att telling me that they noticed that I was tethering and that they will put me on an appropriate data plan if I don't call them back. So, I called and played dumb and they told me that if I ever tether again, they will go ahead and terminate my unlimited data plan.
I received a Samsung Note 10.1 (model #8013) for christmas, and guess what? I have tethered the tablet to my android phone, thinking they won't notice the android traffic coming from an android phone. I have been careful, not downloading tablet-specific apps from the play store and such. Also, I only tether when there's no wifi, it's the last resort. It's been over a month and I haven't heard from them. I am sure ATT is chomping at the bits to get me so they can get rid of one more unlimited data user.
Am I committing a fraud? Maybe. I'd like to think I am engaging in a civil disobedience against an unjust power.
Isn't AT&T also committing a fraud, when they are advertisizing "unlimited" when in fact there's a limit?
The amount of data is unlimited. And they do warn you if you go above a certain amount they will throttle you down. And they let you know the plan is for one phone only and offer you a tethering add-on. They offer thousands of free hotspots for heavy downloaders and give you an app to find them.
Its their superhighway - you just pay the tolls and follow the rules. You don't like them, but it's not fraud on their part.
So with Verizon now having the share plans to eliminate the unlimited plans, thus squeezing more money out of us, I agree with the many on here that say they can have my unlimited when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. So with that being said, I used to be big on swapping roms with my Incredible, but never really messed with my Rezound other than upgrading to the Global RUU, unlocking and rooting it so I can tether wirelessly. Now that an LTE tower was recently put near my house, I can get 4g speeds. I want to cancel my broadband in the house save a bundle and just tether through my phone. I know with my Dinc, there were many Roms with data throttling removed or zip files out there to flash that could remove it. So my question is does VZW still throttle, and if they do, is there a data throttle removal for the Rezound out there?
They don't throttle 4g connections. At least that's what the rep told me. Theres no way to remove throttling from the phone. Vzw does it on there end according to congestion on the tower your connected to using your esn. And as soon as the tower is not so congested you get bandwidth back. But the rep told me if you have a 4g phone you don't get throttled, even if your only connected to 3g. That's coming from a rep over the phone, so take it for what its worth.
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Texas is right.
VZW doesn't throttle 4g, and you have to be one of the top 10% of heavy users.
Also, throttling is done on their end, nothing to do with the phone.
Yeah I only get throttled in the day when I'm downloading massive files. I have downloaded 15gb torrents at night before and Verizon doesn't throttle me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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It's related to the terms of their FCC license. There's lots of restrictions placed on their ability to restrict use of the 700MHz band they use for LTE because of the terms of their license. They also can't restrict tethering on LTE, though they can still do so on 3G.
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One of the apps that's rumored to be related is an app called TetheringGuard.apk and its in system app I believe.
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