As the RAZRs begin to reach their EOL (end of life) product cycle (warranty finished, no more firmware updates, etc) why can't Motorola release an upgrade to unlock the bootloader for everyone.
I can't imagine the carriers would care and surely it would be a simple thing for them to do. They don't have to force this update on any users but simply make it optional for those that want it.
I upgraded to jb with the ota update and unfortunately lost root and to be honest have now lost interest in this phone. I was running AOKP V7 SP's version and it was running so well.
If Motorola techs happen to be reading this, then please consider it because at this stage I sure ain't interested in getting another Motorola and not because they are no good, far from it, it's because you restrict your users freedom with this phone. I will vote with my wallet and atm it won't be Motorola/Google.
Cheers, Teiva
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well, think about it:
It is good that you lost interest in this phone, maybe now you will buy a new one from them
Yeah true. Maybe the new X serious
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They already said it won't be Motorola because of this policy and same applies from me as well
Be interesting to see how all the new phones being released are with their bootloaders. I guess if I could pick up a RAZR HD or RAZR MAXX HD at a reasonable price I would consider getting one (even though they only come with 1GB system ram). My XT910 seems to run quite well with the OTA JB update. I do miss flashing roms though.
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I doubt that they will change this policy
Bun for us who didn't update to EU JB and still have root Is still fun due to kexec
It's a shame considering these phones are no longer premium and flashing Roms makes the world of difference to the experience on them.
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Jumped ship a few months ago to an N4 and not looking back. I loved my xt910, beautiful piece of hardware, too bad that Motorola kills it. Never again Motorola.
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So true. Motorola is losing customers because of lock bootloaders. I have heard so many people say never again to Motorola(in person & on forums). So if a unlocked bootloader keeps people interested especially at the EOL. I think it would be good for business.
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They are going to lose me for that very reason. All we ask is for the option to unlock our bootloaders. It's not something that everyone wants to do nor even knows about but that choice should be there for those that choose too.
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This same situation like milestone and other smartphones with lock bl from M. Owners dream of unlock bl when new models came out. But thats was never happend. The policy has never change. Sry for bad eng.
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I agree, if moto would just open their eyes to what their customers are saying they would have a Hugh support of long term customers. Moto has such great phones. To bad to see they are losing their loyal supporters.
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My XT910 when I bought it was an awesome phone. Better then the galaxy S2s being sold at the time.
I'm not sure the reasoning behind Motorola's reluctance to unlock the bootloader on what can now be considered an old phone but it sure is going to impact my future decisions.
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I think that Motorola wants to cut off from the "older" models and concentrate on models developed jointly with Google. You could see for a while like google too did not know which way to go with M. From what I know this phone x (or whatever he's called) is already unlocked bl (! Sic)
But do not despair, we already have good ports based on kexec and the issue of time is full of functionality. Thank you for the great developers from xda
Greetings from Poland, third-world country (according to Motorola)
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We will see, but as far as I remember there was unlockable bootloaders on some Motorola phones. I hope somehow we will manage to use our RAZRs to the max For Milestone there is still active development (great @nadlabak) so I hope @dhacker and @Hashcode won't abandon us
Still nagging about the bootloader? We have kexec and imo that is enough. We should instead be grateful for devs like hashcode and dhacker who makes this phone awesome.
I disagree, Motorola should thank these dev's for keep their products still awesome and users should donate to the dev's for their hard work.
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Still nagging about the bootloader? We have kexec and imo that is enough. We should instead be grateful for devs like hashcode and dhacker who makes this phone awesome.
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Do you need a rooted phone to run kexec? If so then kexec doesn't help those with XT910, JB OTA, and no root.
Does an unlocked bootloader make it easier to root your phone?
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Do you need a rooted phone to run kexec? If so then kexec doesn't help those with XT910, JB OTA, and no root.
Does an unlocked bootloader make it easier to root your phone?
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yes, you need rooted phone for kexec due to necessity of having a custom recovery to install if from
unlocked BL is not related to the root
I feel it's more of a carrier issue than Motorola, they're a company, they want money, referring to at least the US models, the carriers want locked bootloaders, they'll get them.
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I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
ericdabbs said:
I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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As of now nobody knows
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I hope soon... if not, I believe Yay 4 Juggs knows how to fix it.
ericdabbs said:
I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
Yeah, HTC kind of bastardized "unlocking the bootloader."
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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you mean like this? http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/05/26/htc-thunderbolt-gingerbread-bricking-problem-froyo-revert/
or how about samsungs intercept bricks going to 2.2?
oems arent perfect
What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
Unlocking allows you to flash custom kernels and custom rom's. That's a pretty general statement seeing as I am new to the android scene, I'm sure someone else will elaborate.
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What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
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Unlocking the bootloader allows you to rewrite partitions on the device with out checking for security keys.
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motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
daniel129001 said:
motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
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A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
xTMFxOffshore said:
A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
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You'll love this! http://immigrate2us.net/forum/showthread.php?50024-Why-Punctuation-Matters
Lolol. Wow.
My favorite is:
http://cheezburger.com/View/3757654016
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
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100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
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Nexus s is samsung
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Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
halfdriven said:
Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
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They did unlock the atrix...
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They did unlock the atrix...
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Photon will be next
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Just take a look at this link, whatz the damn unlocked edition?
Seems our phones wouldn't be unlocked:
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/0...will-feature-unlocked-bootloader-in-europe-2/
WATTEFUK MOTO
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I just read that also. what the heck. this is cheating us completely.
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just saw it, i hope they will unlock our device aswell with ics...
If they don't unlock all the razr devices and have a "special" version of the razr in the U.S. that comes unlocked from the factory, Motorola is going to catch severe backlash. Im talking major uproar.
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Same I say here .. Very bad news and bad politic !!
This is VERY disappointing Moto! Why do you expect your customers to shell out another Euro 499 for an unlocked BL! Allow me to unlock my Razr's BL and keep your warranty!
I just saw this.... I can't believe they're not only release yet another razr already but they expect us to shell out even more money for something we should've had in the first place!
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Thdy did say they will provide tools on moto dev for locking and unlocking so they may br compatible fingers crossed!
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Cant we Just Extract the unlocked boootloader from the dev edition or something?? I am sure devs can do something .
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Thdy did say they will provide tools on moto dev for locking and unlocking so they may br compatible fingers crossed!
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They have said an awful lot but Motorola press releases are VERY carefully written.
I bet everyone is passed by their legal department.
Motorola Europe on Facebook, posted on 29/12/11:
"the team is continuing to work through plans on an unlockable version for Europe and hoping to have details in the next week or so on when that might actually come to market. That's all we have for the moment but looks like details may be forthcoming."
We all got excited about that thinking that it meant they would be unlocking OUR bootloaders, but no, it meant they would try and get more money out of us by releasing a new phone.
Many years ago I used to work for Computer Associates, they didn't give a **** about the customers it was revenue and how to screw the most out of people. Every contract was watertight and we even had company's paying for software they couldn't use!
Motorola reminds me so much of those days.
As an organisation they stink!
I'll continue to develop on the Motorola RAZR (actually mine is bricked anyway) but after it, I'll never develop anymore for any Motorola device.
I feel like joked, I didn't think a company like Moto could do something like this. It's simply unbelievable.
The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,
--kholk
Well for me too, this is the last moto phone i buy.
its a shame a company like motorola do this.
And the worst is google is behind this.
kholk said:
I'll continue to develop on the Motorola RAZR (actually mine is bricked anyway) but after it, I'll never develop anymore for any Motorola device.
I feel like joked, I didn't think a company like Moto could do something like this. It's simply unbelievable.
The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,
--kholk
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That's great to hear... Minus the bricked phone part lol. Just let us know what phone you're eyeing next so we know where to jump ship towards!
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Actually I'm waiting for the ASUS PadFone or alternatively the LG X3... Tegra3 seems to outperform everything
I think if Motorola not change this all our "hello moto" will become "see you never again moto".....
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Here are the people who lie to us:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/content/default.aspx?NewsAreaID=1
I suggest that we bombard the following people with email and calls demanding to know why they continue to ignore us:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=13321&NewsAreaID=26
Let them understand our anger at their decisions.
won't this just give us more opportunity's to maybe unlock the locked phones??
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won't this just give us more opportunity's to maybe unlock the locked phones??
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I dont think so, it means the moto is cheating us, and there is no way to unlock our current phones,
shame on u moto
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Probably not; my guess is it will be nearly identical hardware with a different signature for the bootloader. I can sort of see this approach had it been done at release time; but after the fact this is a total cop-out. Given that samsung and htc do not have lock bootloaders on us carriers I think the only thing moto will listen to is a vote with the wallet...
So yea I chose the razr over the alternatives with this upgrade; but to be honest this crap with micro-versions (bigger battery, unlock bootloader,...) AFTER the fact combined with moto change in policy after the fact suggest this is not a company I wish to deal with in the future.
(after all they did claim they would unlock the bootloader by end of 2011; and it was htc who did the unlocking int hat period).
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Cant we Just Extract the unlocked boootloader from the dev edition or something?? I am sure devs can do something .
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Yes, me also same Razr may be my last Moto phone.
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"He says that "most" Motorola devices released since 2011 will get upgraded to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean before the end of the year..."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294428/motorola-100-credit-jelly-bean-upgrade
What do you think?
Will that even apply to us in the uk and europe. And i don't like the term "very soon"
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Hard to believe it all.
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Lol let them release ics first
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After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
Jaocagomez said:
After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
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Why only maxxx?
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I will only believe this announcement if Jelly Bean for RAZR XT910 become real before the end of the year.
romdroid. said:
Lol let them release ics first
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ICS has been out for weeks..
WillKennerley said:
ICS has been out for weeks..
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It's not in our phones though so its the same as "it isn't out".That regarding Europe.
When I see the fastboot-files for JB emerge, then I will believe it...
expect a waiting period of now to infinity
It took them 6 months to release ICS in the states... in Canada only 9... some people still waiting... I'll believe JB when I see it not even gonna bother hoping this gets officially released
Very soon to the carriers.. Then expect the carriers in the USA to take 9 months more...
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ICS has been out for weeks..
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Not in Europe
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"Before the end of the year" but what year? 2014 would be adequate to their attitude
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I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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I partialy agree with you BUT:
"So they should release it in one month not three." - we will be happy if they release it in three months instead of 9....
"even maybe to unlock the bootloader" - I am affraid that they are to proud to do something like this...
"but nobody cares anymore" - in fact there are users who doesn't care about rooting, roms etc and from that point of view are the motorolas phones good choice as the hw is great...
"RIP Motorola." - right... Motorola lost nearly all their powerusers....
I think it will happen & you are going to see a complete swing shift now that the Google takeover is complete and they have started putting their personnel in charge, as well as the lay offs etc.
I know they originally said that they would let it run as a stand alone but I think the company is too big a worldwide name for them to let fail, they would lose too much face if they let that happen. You also have people that have now not lost their job, bricking it that it may still happen and looking to make names for themselves within the company and in that environment anything can happen.
Biggest thing for me is for another Operation Mosh should be ran right now and by everyone that possibly can, with the noises they are making about upgrades, changes that are being made in the company, new phones and bootloader unlock tools etc, I think the time for a push on this has never been better to try accomplish this goal.
Or worst case scenario, they will do what they did with 2.3.6 update to nonefigs when ics update was announced. They will dump it , because ICS was so close , just now they will do it with 4.0.4.
Just joking (hopefully )
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I just hope something leaks so the devs can get into it, because my wife was still running official 2.3.6 on her RAZR, nothing custom ever flashed on it and when the notification came through for the OTA ICS update Australia it just failed at instal everytime, i even took it out of cache folder and attempted manual installs all different ways and just kept failing... Upside was, my wife finally let me root and flash her phone so she now knows what she was missing out on lol.
So basically, going by past experience Moto would be better off sending there updates direct to the devs so it can be fixed and improved
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Motorola timeline was updated so the photon and atrix are now listed as "Further plans coming soon". Now I'm no longer on the photon any more, but this pisses me off.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...grade-timeline-updated-many-ics-otas-delayed/
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It's annoying effort sure. I was using joker's cm10 on my Electrify, but needed more stability and battery life so I'm back to cm7 for now.
Even if they would just release drivers to the public...I won't even ask for a full build.
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unlock our phones and get lost Moto
if Moto has no plans to update, let them unlock our phone and get lost.
I will think 100 times before planing to buy a MOTO phone in the future.
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if Moto has no plans to update, let them unlock our phone and get lost.
I will think 100 times before planing to buy a MOTO phone in the future.
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This
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this might mean jellybean is coming (;
kdog350 said:
this might mean jellybean is coming (;
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I'm thinking "Future Plans" means we are skipping ICS entirely for JB - I mean Development already started for The Photon back in the last update. They can't just announce right now that they are doing that for those 2 phones.
If my phone gets JB, I may just **** a house. However, I'm not concerned with wait time cause I'm not due for an upgrade till May.
Also, this will be my last Motorola unless we get a nexus device.
Even then, Motorola and Google are gonna hafta wow me
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If we do actually get an update now to anything i will be happy because we can use the drivers to make the roms on here run better but my hope is that they do not cancel everything and do not give us an update at all because i will also definitely think twice before buying another moto phone. I am already on the fence about wanting to get rid of my photon and trying to pick us a nexus because of the timely updates and good developer support. Just waiting to see if motorola really does push me to do it by getting rid of any update for our phone.
I'm hoping that "further plans" means they are doing JB, if they were going to cancel they would have put "Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3)"
I'm been using the AOKP JB Build on my photon and absolutely love it. So I'm not too concerned if there ends up being a JB update or not. Our devs rock. Screw motorola.
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I'm been using the AOKP JB Build on my photon and absolutely love it. So I'm not too concerned if there ends up being a JB update or not. Our devs rock. Screw motorola.
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Big props to the XDA devs for sure. Unfortunately I'm on a locked bootloader so I can only use a few good roms.
Are you not wanting to unlock the bootloader? I know you lose 4g. But I personally haven't missed it. I've enjoyed the freedom of an unlocked bl.
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Are you not wanting to unlock the bootloader? I know you lose 4g. But I personally haven't missed it. I've enjoyed the freedom of an unlocked bl.
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No I can't unlock it. My phone was on 2.3.5 OTA update when I bought it. So it's never getting unlocked as of right now.
Page updated. Atrix 4G and Photon 4G to remain on Gingerbread.
USA:
Atrix 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Photon 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Same for Asia pacific.
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Page updated. Atrix 4G and Photon 4G to remain on Gingerbread.
USA:
Atrix 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Photon 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Same for Asia pacific.
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This is so depressing
FU Motorola Never Again. :banghead:
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No more moto phones for me after this.
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I'm already done with moto, but they better release an sbf for gingerbread. I can't even sell my photon because the soak I'm on fails to update to the official release.
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Change the name of thread to "F***ing plan coming soon "... it suites this company...
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I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
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From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
TheBiles said:
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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Intub8 said:
I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.