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They are censoring and pruning criticism. They deleted my post that outlined several disappointments. The post was not inflammatory or insulting at all. It just outlined issues I had with the device, and why I was disappointed with the purchase.
I touched on locked bootloader, 1GB restriction, and not being able to sideload apps via the SD card.
I know they are entitled to censor their page, but that's really disappointing.
No surprises there. It's all about corporate image and they are fighting against Amazon right now.
We could make our own Facebook page to voice our disappointments. They couldn't delete that. Just a thought.
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beatlesfan01 said:
We could make our own Facebook page to voice our disappointments. They couldn't delete that. Just a thought.
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I totally would if I still had a vested interest in this product. I decided to take mine back and grab the Galaxy Tab 7 plus, and not because of the locked boot loader or issues with it. TBH, I have total confidence that it will get rooted and there will be development, it just takes time. Personally it's been their support and attitude that turned me off. The BN support told me to take it to the store and I could get it partitioned, drove all the way there (which is about 30 min away), and everyone there had no idea what I was talking about. One semi-knowledgeable person said I could only repartition if it was a NC.
That kinda stuff really bothers me. I'd rather spend the extra $, at least I know what I'm getting with a Samsung product.
The Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus has already been rooted.
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The Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus has already been rooted.
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I know. I was talking about the NT getting rooted eventually.
One thing that annoys me is that after the Color was rooted, B&N marketing made a huge deal about it being a tablet. Not that they mentioned rooting, but they did ride the tablet buzz. And how did they thank the community that made that possible?
I've bought lots more Kindle books than Nook books, and I see that trend continuing in spite of it being so much less annoying to have put the Nook app on my Kindle Fire than the Kindle app on my Nook Tablet.
So, I just checked the B&N face book page and there are many posts including mine. Mine specifically got...a little spirited.(some one on the internet thinks i was wrong. REALLY felt the need to inform me of that.)
Where did buy your 7.0 Tab Plus if you don't mind me asking
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Where did buy your 7.0 Tab Plus if you don't mind me asking
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I got it today at Best Buy. I think it was worth the extra $. The good thing about buying it at BB right now is I have until Jan 24th 2012 to return it. So basically risk free for 2 months. I love their holiday return policy.
Does it seem like they will eventually figure out how to get custom roms and kernels, or is it still up in the air as to if its even possible. And I've read of the possibility of b&n doing an OTA update that would close the door on the current rooting method and side loading of apps, is there any reason to believe they would? Or is that just paranoid speculation.
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Does it seem like they will eventually figure out how to get custom roms and kernels, or is it still up in the air as to if its even possible. And I've read of the possibility of b&n doing an OTA update that would close the door on the current rooting method and side loading of apps, is there any reason to believe they would? Or is that just paranoid speculation.
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OTA updates to the BC broke rooting so I assume a OTA to the NT would do the same. Usually rooting was restored in a few days. Custom kernels are a different issue and currently is unknown.
Kindle has CM7 booting on it. may have to go for the kindle over the nook tablet. Custom roms and kernels are a big selling factor and the kindle seems much closer to that.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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True... Sadly, I doubt the higher ups of B&N really care about that small 1% for whom this is a concern. I'm still on the fence myself, but for me it's a NT or just save my money and wait; The lack of uSD kills the KF for me and I don't need/want a tablet enough to justify anything with a higher pricetag.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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I think its a little early to say its being written off. The awesome developers on this forum are still working on it, and probably others too. Even if the fully rooted device is as far as it goes, it is still a great device for the money.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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Sad but true. Stupid of B&N to lock the bootloader ... hopefully, bad sales will validate the point!
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Sad but true. Stupid of B&N to lock the bootloader ... hopefully, bad sales will validate the point!
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Not likely. Stopped by B&N on the way from class today and saw 3-4 people walk out with the NT during the time(30 min?) I was hanging around talking to the "tech". They're still selling quite well, but time will tell if they can keep it up.
B&N couldn't care less about losing sales to those who aren't buying their low cost eReader to use as intended. There is little to no margin for selling it as a general purpose tablet so they really don't care that those who can't load a custom ROM aren't happy with their device. Lot's of more expensive tablets out there for those who want to do custom development and a Nook app for those who want to buy their online products.
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I wonder if the Kindle Fire is actually helping NT sales. The KF sell people on the idea of getting a 7" tablet, but they shop around and finds that the NT has better specs for a little more. They read reviews like Engadget that say the NT plays videos smoother. The NT is suddenly on their radar.
The average person wouldn't care a bit about the bootloader, though they might be disappointed to find out about the 1GB limit for own content.
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I wonder if the Kindle Fire is actually helping NT sales. The KF sell people on the idea of getting a 7" tablet, but they shop around and finds that the NT has better specs for a little more. They read reviews like Engadget that say the NT plays videos smoother. The NT is suddenly on their radar.
The average person wouldn't care a bit about the bootloader, though they might be disappointed to find out about the 1GB limit for own content.
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If I understand correctly if the Nook is rooted apps install in the 15gb partition so rooted nooks have access to more than 1gb. Of course your average user isn't going to root their device.
GTOJim said:
If I understand correctly if the Nook is rooted apps install in the 15gb partition so rooted nooks have access to more than 1gb. Of course your average user isn't going to root their device.
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Sideloaded apps also. You wanna move files to the B&N partition, you use root file manager to move.
I wouldnt mind buying apps if b&n actually had any in thier market. They dont have crap.
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Atleast for me the NT led to a kindle sale. Custom roms and kernels are a big deal to me, and I'm guessing the kindle is a week or two away from CM7 and most likely CM9 as well. And maybe the devs figure out a way around NTs locked boot loader, but there also seems to be a good chance they don't. It was a simple decision.
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Atleast for me the NT led to a kindle sale. Custom roms and kernels are a big deal to me, and I'm guessing the kindle is a week or two away from CM7 and most likely CM9 as well. And maybe the devs figure out a way around NTs locked boot loader, but there also seems to be a good chance they don't. It was a simple decision.
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I keep reading on various forums that the locked bootloader is a Nook Tab killer. Why?????? Please educate an old man as to why this is such a big deal. Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale. Already there are people who have rooted the tablet. Please tell an ignorant old man WHY it is so important to unlock the bootloader. What would you do/have once you unlocked the bootloader that you can't do without? Is it just because the locked bootloader feels like a slap in the face to developers? I mean what more would you do to it that you can't already do with it locked down?
My Tab does everything and more than I'd ever do with a real tablet so I'm just very curious as to what all the fuss is about.
Custom ROMS and kernels allow you to really extend the life of your device (meaning the device won't seem outdated so quickly). The CPU can be overclocked, the voltage tweaked for better battery life, newer versions of the android OS can be uploaded, etc.
Back to the future
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... Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale.
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Question: What happens when B&N releases an automatic update (replacing your system and your downloaded apps) and it closes the hole that you used to install additional apps?
Answer: We don't know. Having a way around the bootloader (eg, booting SDcards) gives some assurance that we will be able to root future versions, allowing continued "unauthorized" apps.
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I keep reading on various forums that the locked bootloader is a Nook Tab killer. Why?????? Please educate an old man as to why this is such a big deal. Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale. Already there are people who have rooted the tablet. Please tell an ignorant old man WHY it is so important to unlock the bootloader. What would you do/have once you unlocked the bootloader that you can't do without? Is it just because the locked bootloader feels like a slap in the face to developers? I mean what more would you do to it that you can't already do with it locked down?
My Tab does everything and more than I'd ever do with a real tablet so I'm just very curious as to what all the fuss is about.
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Here's why:
- A regular build of Android is better than the dumbed down version used in the nook tablet line.
- Ice Cream Sandwich is 10x better than Gingerbread.
- A tablet version of Android is better than smartphone version used in the nook.
Thanks everyone for the quick education. I understand much better now. It does appear that with a locked bootloader the customer is at the mercy of the vendor. They control the software, they control the hardware you just bought and paid for. I get it now. Sounds like I just rented a Barnes & Noble portal to their content. They can close the back door to any other apps anytime they choose. Almost doesn't seem fair.
Because I've heard different answers to this question elsewhere, I wanted to post it here.
Will there be an opportunity for us to flash ROMS from Clockworkmods, etc. on the NT in the near future or not?
Thanks!
Tommy
Possibly, no ETA. No one knows at this point when but it is technically possible but it will take a lot of work from the devs to get around the bootloader.
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No idea when this would happen. The locked bootloader is big problem.
New here so excuse me if wrong: but I thought the Nook Color was unlocked, why would B&N do that? Wouldn't that kill their sales of the unit? Does anyone think there will be a leak to unlock the Tablet?
mario24601 said:
New here so excuse me if wrong: but I thought the Nook Color was unlocked, why would B&N do that? Wouldn't that kill their sales of the unit? Does anyone think there will be a leak to unlock the Tablet?
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The number of people who buy a device based on whether the bootloader is locked or not is a very small number.
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If you don't feel like waiting a year to maybe have custom Roms, get a kindle fire, it has cm7 already and cm9 right around the corner.
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If you don't feel like waiting a year to maybe have custom Roms, get a kindle fire, it has cm7 already and cm9 right around the corner.
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I was hoping that the devs would find a solution but this seems to be the way to go.
Pretty much all the great devs have or are planning to get Kindle Fires.
The forum over there is "on fire" (pardon the pun)
As someone that loved the Nook Color that is very disappointing.
Yeah, I was on the fence between the two, but the locked bootloader, and kinda goofy looking form factor of the nook tab made the decision for me, and yeah, the kindle forums are busy. I am very happy with my choice.
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Cm7 for the kindle has no sound at the moment, so yes, you can get a kindle and enjoy a buggy customization experience. You can already do a lot with rooting and side loading apps; you'll do this with a better screen and hardware specs on the NT.
That being said, the bootloader is a major clockblock for development of custom ROMs. While we can still root and sneak in apps here and there, we are as-of-yet powerless to remove Barns&Nobles pared down version of the android experience. This is a real tough nut to crack, as we're forced to either bypass or crack it, both of which are not fun to do. Remember, hackers are a minute portion of buyers, and B&N is subsidizing the cost of the tablet with their ecosystem.
The KF, on the other hand does not have the locked bootloader, which means its more likely that meaningful development will continue for it.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
I really don't get why anyone would get a kindle fire JUST because you can modify it more (right now). What's the point if it has no SD slot and choppy video playback?
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I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
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Source? No one from these forums has as of yet.
If it did happen though, it would mean the Kindle Fire would be a flaming pile of **** compared to the NT
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I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
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Nahh, not even close to unlocking the bootloader.
Shame I'm sure they'll get there though. Just a matter of when...
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Shame I'm sure they'll get there though. Just a matter of when...
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it´s gettin closer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20383778&postcount=104
Sounds like there is some hope. I have been long time user of the "other" tablet and ordered a Noon Tablet, should have it Monday. I hear there is a way to do "sidelaoder" to gain access to the whole android market without having to root it. Anyone have a guide I can reference to do it to mine? I see many instructions but want to be sure I pick a "safe" one.
Other than the market, I don't think there is much more I'd like it to do. Does android have a app for Synology NAS? I also like using XBMC on iPad, anyone know if adroid has it or something similar/better?
Anything thing else you recommend I do to the NT without having to root it? My mail functions for the tablet will be entertainment, internet, videos, pictures and music.
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Sounds like there is some hope. I have been long time user of the "other" tablet and ordered a Noon Tablet, should have it Monday. I hear there is a way to do "sidelaoder" to gain access to the whole android market without having to root it. Anyone have a guide I can reference to do it to mine? I see many instructions but want to be sure I pick a "safe" one.
Other than the market, I don't think there is much more I'd like it to do. Does android have a app for Synology NAS? I also like using XBMC on iPad, anyone know if adroid has it or something similar/better?
Anything thing else you recommend I do to the NT without having to root it? My mail functions for the tablet will be entertainment, internet, videos, pictures and music.
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To get market you have to root. I don't see why you wouldn't as there is the one click unroot app and the 8(or is it 10?) failed boot to factory restore if you have any issues and want to return to BN
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Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
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Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
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It's extremely simple to do. Enjoy!
Looks like I couldn’t post the link but Koopakid08 has below
mario24601 said:
Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
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Instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
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I am still deciding if I should buy a kindle fire hdx. It would be perfect for me if was not for amazon's os. I thought that a root would soon be available but for what I was able to find online, it seems that no one is actually looking at it. Has Amazon finally made an "unrootable" device or it is simply that the fire hdx does not awake much interest?
yes. actually no good dev has a real serious effort in hacking this device. maybe in 2-3months.
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yes. actually no good dev has a real serious effort in hacking this device. maybe in 2-3months.
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Unless HashCode has stopped tinkering with the Kindle line, your "no good Dev" comment is absurd.
The real reason is that there have been many other releases & none of the higher end HDX devices have released. My 64Gb just shipped early, get it Tuesday, but my LTE version is still a month away from release, maybe two from shipping. With the wonderful Snapdragon 800, I would almost guarantee that it will get root, even if I have to do it myself.
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Unless HashCode has stopped tinkering with the Kindle line, your "no good Dev" comment is absurd.
The real reason is that there have been many other releases & none of the higher end HDX devices have released. My 64Gb just shipped early, get it Tuesday, but my LTE version is still a month away from release, maybe two from shipping. With the wonderful Snapdragon 800, I would almost guarantee that it will get root, even if I have to do it myself.
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The first kindle fire has good Roms still releasing, already have kitkat on it. I'm hesitant to buy the hdx until it gets more active.
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Ace42 said:
The first kindle fire has good Roms still releasing, already have kitkat on it. I'm hesitant to buy the hdx until it gets more active.
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no need to rush..LTE versions of kindle fire not totally shipping as yet..
devs will get to root this device soon enough...
we'll all get to install google play store or maybe even a custom rom in time for Xmas.
no need to gripe, root will come soon enough..
please be patient.
kindle fire hardware specs look like nexus 5!!!
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Unless HashCode has stopped tinkering with the Kindle line, your "no good Dev" comment is absurd.
The real reason is that there have been many other releases & none of the higher end HDX devices have released. My 64Gb just shipped early, get it Tuesday, but my LTE version is still a month away from release, maybe two from shipping. With the wonderful Snapdragon 800, I would almost guarantee that it will get root, even if I have to do it myself.
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This is what hashcode said about the HDX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46919261&postcount=10
Montisaquadeis said:
This is what hashcode said about the HDX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46919261&postcount=10
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I will not be picking one up either, but I am working my hardest to get root on this thing. Nothing is working (Impactor, Framaroot, everything else) so I'm going to need to find my own exploit. May take some time but I think I might be on to something. I also have school and marching band, though.
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This is what hashcode said about the HDX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46919261&postcount=10
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I'll bet @Hashcode would be willing to add commentary to anyone with any valid idea, or anyone that gets to a point where they think they may have identified an exploit. It has been years, but I have worked with a few devs on testing possible s-off & root exploits numerous times in the past. & I will have some time during the December holiday season to play around a bit. Hash mentioned taking a look at Kingo & so far all anyone has done is tried to install & root using it. Nobody has looked at the exploit it uses & tried to see if it just needs to be pointed elsewhere, which is a real possibility. At any rate, I just got my 64Gb version & my LTE model just arrived in Phoenix, sitting on a pallet till December. (My brother works for Amazon). At any rate, I am pretty tied up with work right now, lot's of hospital being built in Texas keeping PE's busy right now. I'll take a look at some obvious routes this weekend, but any serious exploit hunts will have to wait till late December as far as I am concerned.
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I'll bet @Hashcode would be willing to add commentary to anyone with any valid idea, or anyone that gets to a point where they think they may have identified an exploit. It has been years, but I have worked with a few devs on testing possible s-off & root exploits numerous times in the past. & I will have some time during the December holiday season to play around a bit. Hash mentioned taking a look at Kingo & so far all anyone has done is tried to install & root using it. Nobody has looked at the exploit it uses & tried to see if it just needs to be pointed elsewhere, which is a real possibility. At any rate, I just got my 64Gb version & my LTE model just arrived in Phoenix, sitting on a pallet till December. (My brother works for Amazon). At any rate, I am pretty tied up with work right now, lot's of hospital being built in Texas keeping PE's busy right now. I'll take a look at some obvious routes this weekend, but any serious exploit hunts will have to wait till late December as far as I am concerned.
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I tried multiple exploits using the app here but all of them were patched. It could be a possibility that's the case. It seems that this is locked up tighter than a bank safe.
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I will not be picking one up either, but I am working my hardest to get root on this thing. Nothing is working (Impactor, Framaroot, everything else) so I'm going to need to find my own exploit. May take some time but I think I might be on to something. I also have school and marching band, though.
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:good: Good luck!
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I tried multiple exploits using the app here but all of them were patched. It could be a possibility that's the case. It seems that this is locked up tighter than a bank safe.
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Anyone know who is OEM'ing these for Amazon? I am thinking it is maybe Asus, but that is just based on my hour with the device.
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Anyone know who is OEM'ing these for Amazon? I am thinking it is maybe Asus, but that is just based on my hour with the device.
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I could check, just give me some time and I'll get back to you.
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Anyone know who is OEM'ing these for Amazon? I am thinking it is maybe Asus, but that is just based on my hour with the device.
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Strange as it may seem, there is a Nokia app is /system/app.
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It's Motorola. Good luck with the bootloader! :silly:
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Hey,
I've had my HDX 8.9 for quite a number of months now (virtually since release). I've been keeping an eye on this forum, waiting for an update on things. I'm really grateful for the work that's been done so far; some of you guys work hard to unlock these devices, so thanks, seriously.
I'm really looking forward to getting this thing to stock Android, since the device itself is a stunning piece of kit (both aesthetically and in regards to hardware specifications).
What are the odds of this device (and of course, the 7" model) being completely unlocked, and having stock Android?
If so, what kind of timescale are we looking at?
Thanks for the replies in advance guys.
Well it's not completely unlocked now but having a Rom slot with the AOSP rom is fairly good if not very good. I have nhad one problem so far and that auto rectified.
On a time frame I don't think anyone is sure yet. Just have to keep your fingers crossed.
(Would still like bluetooth tether to work thought on AOSP)
BRPW said:
Hey,
I've had my HDX 8.9 for quite a number of months now (virtually since release). I've been keeping an eye on this forum, waiting for an update on things. I'm really grateful for the work that's been done so far; some of you guys work hard to unlock these devices, so thanks, seriously.
I'm really looking forward to getting this thing to stock Android, since the device itself is a stunning piece of kit (both aesthetically and in regards to hardware specifications).
What are the odds of this device (and of course, the 7" model) being completely unlocked, and having stock Android?
If so, what kind of timescale are we looking at?
Thanks for the replies in advance guys.
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Honestly everyone in here is working on rooting when time from their real jobs allow. The first thing I learned in the android forums several years ago is not ask for a specific time frame. It could be tomorrow. It could be August. It could be never. I am very impatient myself and can't wait for working root. In due time the devs will come up with something. They are very good!!!
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Honestly everyone in here is working on rooting when time from their real jobs allow. The first thing I learned in the android forums several years ago is not ask for a specific time frame. It could be tomorrow. It could be August. It could be never. I am very impatient myself and can't wait for working root. In due time the devs will come up with something. They are very good!!!
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odds are slim im afraid, im resigned to having to use the google accounts in gmail that i managed to set up before losing root and some accounts using the email app
not ideal, actually pretty annoying because of some critical apps (and no bloody language selection in the keyboard, and etc) being missing, but i can live with it
no root means ads in browsers, so thats a big deal for me, as browsing is a killjoy much of the time
not a great reader either - you really need amoled to read well on dark screens (if youre like me)
so id gladly get rid of mine and buy the tab pro 8 incher tbh
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odds are slim im afraid, im resigned to having to use the google accounts in gmail that i managed to set up before losing root and some accounts using the email app
not ideal, actually pretty annoying because of some critical apps (and no bloody language selection in the keyboard, and etc) being missing, but i can live with it
no root means ads in browsers, so thats a big deal for me, as browsing is a killjoy much of the time
not a great reader either - you really need amoled to read well on dark screens (if youre like me)
so id gladly get rid of mine and buy the tab pro 8 incher tbh
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No root means ads everywhere on these horrible things. You buy the machine, then they advertise at you intrusively ad nauseum until you get sick of it, stomp on it or use it as discus? WTF is amazon thinking.
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No root means ads everywhere on these horrible things. You buy the machine, then they advertise at you intrusively ad nauseum until you get sick of it, stomp on it or use it as discus? WTF is amazon thinking.
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Um... dude how the hell do you think they have been able to sell it for such a low price + high end specs? Without the Amazon "offer" system, they would be making little to no profits whatsoever on the HDX. It's surprising they are making any profits on this at all on the HDX, considering their recent price drops.
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Um... dude how the hell do you think they have been able to sell it for such a low price + high end specs? Without the Amazon "offer" system, they would be making little to no profits whatsoever on the HDX. It's surprising they are making any profits on this at all on the HDX, considering their recent price drops.
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Without the constant barrage of unwanted ads it would be a million times better and the hardware is no better than any of the competitors, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 in all of them and arguably better build quality in the Nexus at least. IOW the ads are BS.
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Without the constant barrage of unwanted ads it would be a million times better and the hardware is no better than any of the competitors, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 in all of them and arguably better build quality in the Nexus at least. IOW the ads are BS.
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If it's ads are so hard to deal with, why didn't you just pay the extra 15$ to have them pre-removed? You talk like the ads are the worst thing to ever have to be dealt with, when it's just ambient noise.
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If it's ads are so hard to deal with, why didn't you just pay the extra 15$ to have them pre-removed? You talk like the ads are the worst thing to ever have to be dealt with, when it's just ambient noise.
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I agree. I paid an extra 1,500 pennies to get rid of the ads. A real no brainier for me.
Tomen8r said:
I agree. I paid an extra 1,500 pennies to get rid of the ads. A real no brainier for me.
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Outside of the US amazon has decreed ads for everyone, no option to remove. A real no brainer indeed.
Odds might go up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721505
CrashTestDroid said:
Outside of the US amazon has decreed ads for everyone, no option to remove. A real no brainer indeed.
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I'm in the UK and just phoned them up. They removed the ads for free. Result!
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