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The thread that Adam and others are using for development level conversations about the unlocking of the bootloader is awesome, but it goes over the head of many of us enthusiastic noobs.
This thread is so that we can try and move our questions and confusion to here so as to un-clog the other thread.
It looks like the only way to bypass the bootloader we have seen so far, is to perform a hardware mod. After the hardware mod, we should be able to boot from SD or reinstall the ROM.
Discuss!
If i first get to have the chip from outside USA i surely will go for it, if its totally worthy.
Really, for me, it depends on just how involved the hardware mod is---whether it requires soldering and such.
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I wouldn't mind doing it myself, no matter the level of difficulty. Also a send-in service by some 3rd party company (N2A comes to mind). We'll see what the success rate is, and what can be done.
I already opted for $50 more than the KF, then another $40 for a 32gb sd card... i cant see spending even mor eto buy the mod chip. At that point, i shouldve bought a better tablet.
I'll wait on a software bypass, it'll get here eventually.
Plus, i have no interest in linux. I doubt i even need ICS, but if it comes and its free... why not?
From what I have read so far the hardware mod would not be challenging or expensive. Two screws and 4 solder points. According to Adam the chip is only $3 USD, and I would assume that it could be programed with a printer port.
I already opted for $50 more than the KF, then another $40 for a 32gb sd card... i cant see spending even mor eto buy the mod chip. At that point, i shouldve bought a better tablet.
I'll wait on a software bypass, it'll get here eventually.
Plus, i have no interest in linux. I doubt i even need ICS, but if it comes and its free... why not?
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I think the cost of the SD is irrelevant. You would have to do this with any tablet, and if your comparing to the KF then this one section of your argument is even more so invalid.
The mod chip also looks like it will be very inexpensive.
EDIT: I highly doubt ICS will be released for our tablets by B&N ever... So we will be waiting for someone like the CM team to get it working for us.
The hardware mod interests me even if solely as a way to learn a bit about embedded security. I do find it unsettling that I can't install linux on my linux computer.
I don't want to be dependent on having a boot sdcard installed at all times. A hardware modification is good ONLY if it leads to PERMANENTLY disabling the anti-hack mechanism so that the hardware modification doesn't have to be performed again every time the device is booted up.
I would accept precisely this;
Plug in some device,
Boot on sdcard,
Modify the secure boot process WITHIN DEVICE STORAGE (not within RAM),
Remove device,
Store on shelf until it is needed for another hacking project.
There are multiple options for modification of the secure boot process, in particular, replacing the signing keys stored on the device allowing us to use OUR OWN signing key to satisfy the secure boot process. Another option is to eliminate the signature check. I believe that the former will be simpler since it is just a DATA modification rather than reverse engineering.
I wonder if the hardware has an equivalent of "S-OFF" that HTC phones have? As I recall, on most HTC phones, there is a ONE BYTE EDIT that has to be made within one partition of the eMMC to TOTALLY disable all of the device's bootloader sig checks and hardware write protect. The issue was that the partition in question would be hardware write protected. Presumably, with the hardware modification for NT, a similar state *should* be achievable.
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Would you hardware mod your NT?
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Absolutely not!
I also wouldn't because you never will get your in the same condition as it was before you opened it and everybody can see that you did something to the device. You also don't have warranty anymore after that process.
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I also wouldn't because you never will get your in the same condition as it was before you opened it and everybody can see that you did something to the device. You also don't have warranty anymore after that process.
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Whaaaaa???
Unlike you, most intelligent people will select jeweler's tools to open something like this rather than a crowbar and a sledgehammer.
Further, most people would actually perform the modification using a temperature controlled and grounded soldering iron, rather than an acetylene torch, thus no damage caused even internally.
As far as warranty goes, it is EASY to restore it to factory condition, unless you use the Neanderthal approach to hardware modification, in which case warranty provision is determined by YOUR HONESTY to only warranty it for something that YOU DID NOT CAUSE (in which case there is no morality issue to be worried over).
I also wouldn't because you never will get your in the same condition as it was before you opened it and everybody can see that you did something to the device. You also don't have warranty anymore after that process.
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Soldering is not that big a deal once you have developed the touch. I am fairly certain that I could solder the four wires required for this chip and then later un-solder them and no one would be able to tell.
It's a great device regardless of installing a ROM. I just rooted it and installed the gapps and OTA block. I still have all the B&N stuff and everything work fine. I have all the apps loaded I want (that make sense without gps and 3g) and I WOULD hardware modify this puppy in a heartbeat to get back what I have if B&N happens to force an OTA through that took away root.
I have been having a lot of fun trying lots of different apps and schemes. The hardware mod is easy and I have already taken it apart and looked at where the soldering goes and it is back together without a hitch.
Big hand to the devs who are doing their thing so we can do ours.
Bill
Oh yes, I'm sure he had a rock and mallet in mind for the modification. How neanderthal of him to suggest that hardware modification is well out of his, and many other's, reach.
It's easy to unroot. I doubt physically messing around with the internals using any manner of ultra sophisticated museum art thief tools will leave behind changes that are unnoticeable.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
I would do it just to do it. I am one of those guys that just like to mod stuff for the hell of it. No, I'm not very good at creating any of the mods, but if it will make my experience better and it's not rocket surgery, I'm game.
As for the warranty issue and opening up the case, it really doesn't look like its that big of a deal. I am guessing that with a set of precision screwdrivers and a guitar pick it can be opened simply and be very nearly undetectable. Besides, if I am going to open it and solder it, I am not worried about the warranty anyway. If someone IS worried about it, then they shouldn't be doing anything that will void it.
JM2C
Hi xda-hackers!
<skipable preamble to question>
My 12yo son flashed an uncompatible image onto his SG-SII GT-i9100, which quite effectively turned it into a brick. It responds to none of the startup keycombos.
It is utterly unimpressed with the 301Kohm USB jig, that I learned about in another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746879 - Thanks a lot for the great information!).
It doesn't even show that a charger is connected (however I can measure a charging voltage, and the battery does get charged).
From what I've gathered, jtag-flashing is my only option. A riff box is a really nice and userfriendly device, that could help me just fine, but it's about 200 bucks, and I'm (hopefully) going to use it only once.
But I DO have a ($30) Bus Pirate (http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate) lying around in my lab and some nice electronic tools (stereo microscope, cool soldering stations, etc.), so I am game to do some serious hacking and upon success, even documenting/sharing my adventure here.
I am a seasoned software developer and I do smaller electronics projects as a hobby.
</skipable preamble to question>
<question>
My question is:
- Since I am not a ninja in this area, I would like some pointers to where I can find a binary worthy of jtag flashing onto the device (I am guessing that I can use the stock kernel (fx. using the tool suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110160)
- I know quite little of jtag. Is there anywhere I can read about the binary padding/enveloping of the binary image I need to flash? Just a pointer would be really nice.
- Have anyone else done something similar? How did you go about it? Where can I learn how you did?
</question>
Thanks a lot for a great forum!
I humbly and respectfully try to maintaing the high level of useful information, and I better stop now before I disrespect the "keep it short" rule even more!
Cheers,
soenderg
soenderg said:
Hi xda-hackers!
<skipable preamble to question>
My 12yo son flashed an uncompatible image onto his SG-SII GT-i9100, which quite effectively turned it into a brick. It responds to none of the startup keycombos.
It is utterly unimpressed with the 301Kohm USB jig, that I learned about in another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746879 - Thanks a lot for the great information!).
It doesn't even show that a charger is connected (however I can measure a charging voltage, and the battery does get charged).
From what I've gathered, jtag-flashing is my only option. A riff box is a really nice and userfriendly device, that could help me just fine, but it's about 200 bucks, and I'm (hopefully) going to use it only once.
But I DO have a ($30) Bus Pirate (http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate) lying around in my lab and some nice electronic tools (stereo microscope, cool soldering stations, etc.), so I am game to do some serious hacking and upon success, even documenting/sharing my adventure here.
I am a seasoned software developer and I do smaller electronics projects as a hobby.
</skipable preamble to question>
<question>
My question is:
- Since I am not a ninja in this area, I would like some pointers to where I can find a binary worthy of jtag flashing onto the device (I am guessing that I can use the stock kernel (fx. using the tool suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110160)
- I know quite little of jtag. Is there anywhere I can read about the binary padding/enveloping of the binary image I need to flash? Just a pointer would be really nice.
- Have anyone else done something similar? How did you go about it? Where can I learn how you did?
</question>
Thanks a lot for a great forum!
I humbly and respectfully try to maintaing the high level of useful information, and I better stop now before I disrespect the "keep it short" rule even more!
Cheers,
soenderg
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Im in the same board as you, hard bricked/dead I9100, JTAG is my only option... Looking for information about this as well...
Look here, Google search, these guys & ask local mobile repair shops (you might find someone who does JTAG's close to you).
Unless you know what you're doing, forking out for the equipment to do it yourself will more than likely end with you being the owner of a 116 gram plastic paperweight (the phone) and a several hundred dollar box you'll never use again (the RIFF box). Do the smart thing & pay someone else a fraction of the cost to do it for you with their gear.
Intrepidx said:
Im in the same board as you, hard bricked/dead I9100, JTAG is my only option... Looking for information about this as well...
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soenderg said:
Hi xda-hackers!
<skipable preamble to question>
My 12yo son flashed an uncompatible image onto his SG-SII GT-i9100, which quite effectively turned it into a brick. It responds to none of the startup keycombos.
It is utterly unimpressed with the 301Kohm USB jig, that I learned about in another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746879 - Thanks a lot for the great information!).
It doesn't even show that a charger is connected (however I can measure a charging voltage, and the battery does get charged).
From what I've gathered, jtag-flashing is my only option. A riff box is a really nice and userfriendly device, that could help me just fine, but it's about 200 bucks, and I'm (hopefully) going to use it only once.
But I DO have a ($30) Bus Pirate (http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate) lying around in my lab and some nice electronic tools (stereo microscope, cool soldering stations, etc.), so I am game to do some serious hacking and upon success, even documenting/sharing my adventure here.
I am a seasoned software developer and I do smaller electronics projects as a hobby.
</skipable preamble to question>
<question>
My question is:
- Since I am not a ninja in this area, I would like some pointers to where I can find a binary worthy of jtag flashing onto the device (I am guessing that I can use the stock kernel (fx. using the tool suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110160)
- I know quite little of jtag. Is there anywhere I can read about the binary padding/enveloping of the binary image I need to flash? Just a pointer would be really nice.
- Have anyone else done something similar? How did you go about it? Where can I learn how you did?
</question>
Thanks a lot for a great forum!
I humbly and respectfully try to maintaing the high level of useful information, and I better stop now before I disrespect the "keep it short" rule even more!
Cheers,
soenderg
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i got a buspirate too 3.5b and it helped me unbrick many devices and i got myself a smd work station and exactly well almost exact setup.and my knowledge is limited in electronics. my friend comes over to my place to do the work, smd and all other stuffs. did you unbrick it with a buspirate? or you use other tools.
time to ressurect this thread.
/me jtags this thread
thanks
-paul
BANG HEAD!!
I have been flashing ROMs/Kernels etc for about a year so no a little. After testing Doris new 9.43v15 kernel I lost root, nothing unusual there, could get it back simply by dirty flashing PAC ROM again. Decided I wanted to go back to an earlier back up of Carbon ROM when I had Doris 9.43 earlier version running fine with no unroot issues. Used Hawkerpauls GS2 ROMnuke to clean my ROM then discovered nothing worked in CWM (just click and back to CWM first menu screen). So I powered off to which I got this message: root maybe lost - re root now yes/no - I clicked yes and then boot loop on Samsung logo. Tried to go back to CWM, CWM screen appears briefly with logo in bottom right, however blank screen and no menu for recovery.
Unfortunately my mini usb post is knackered on my phone, will charge but will not connect to pc. I have been using ADB wireless to connect with my phone but don't know how/if I can find this without phone switched on and running a ROM. Remember the ROM wipe I mentioned earlier - problem - NO ROM TO BOOT INTO! - Phone enters download mode fine though.
Only thing I can think off is sending my phone off and paying £50 excess on my insurance to get them to fix it, I have checked with a couple a local phones shop but they will charge £30 to fix it but say it could take 5 days! These are both last ditch solutions as I'm sure you can all appreciate I really don't want to be without my phone
I have searched XDA but can't find any solutions to this specific problem, if anyone has any ideas or knows where I meant find info that could help I would be very very grateful
SOLUTION:
Finally - it is done, my phone is resurrected and able to flash with pc odin once more. The solution - pay a guy £25 to fit new usb port!
What I have learnt:
If root is lost it is best to flash a new kernel with root before using gs2romnuke
That usb connection is really important so as to have access to odin via pc if all else fails
That some people are very good at laughing at others but seemingly struggle to laugh at themselves lol
Oh - and that M.O.P. = Mobile Odin Pro - I just worked it out all on my own haha
Thank you to those who have tried to help.
1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
theunderling said:
1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
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Thanks 'theunderling'
I thought Q&A was supposed to be friendly? Having looked at your profile and reading the posts that others have 'thanked' you for I can see you are consistently rude. I wonder - how do you think this could possibly help anyone? It's people like you that make XDA extremely off putting to new people who are trying to learn. I thought XDA was supposed to be a community based on being helpful? Were you never new once? Or maybe when you were you were bullied yourself and that's why you have now become one!
As stated in my post, I have come to the conclusion that I would need to replace my USB port, I really can't see for the life of me how using mobile odin pro could have helped when I had already lost root from within my ROM?
If anyone does have any suggestions for regaining use of my phone without replacing the usb I would be very grateful
Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
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king_below_my_lord said:
Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app
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Thank you, I'm being oversensitive due to being ill as hell due to a chest infection that just wont shift, and then this with my phone, just having one of those days. Yes, forgive and forget is a much better option.
That's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for from you and I will certainly check out keithross guide.
I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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1. My phone was rooted long long before my USB got effed. - I didn't realize your advice could lead to psychic abilities!
2. LOL - I have a back up phone, but its sh#t!! Its an old council work phone, horrible - really horrible.
3. I was never after your's, nor anyone else's sympathy come to that.
4. I found a local dealer who has the part in stock and can fix my phone tomorrow for £25 which I agree is 'chicken feed' in the scheme of things.
5. What is M.O.P. app ?
Our international friends may not know what NHS is so I will explain - NHS = National Health Service, I don't think USA and other regions of the world are as fortunate to have these services. Perhaps you struggle to understand the nuances of convivial conversation, are you apergic? If so please accept my apologies, my step son is aspergic and he has know idea of social norms. If not, are you narcissistic? That I would say is true !!!
P.S. - if you can't take it don't give it out, I could go on like this all week long as I really have nothing better to do because I am off work and ill!! I'd much rather just be friends as I'm sure you have a lot to give and I could learn much, just play nice after all this is all in a forum that states:
"Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 > Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting ... [ Newbies][Experienced Users][RCs] New members friendly Q&A thread."
- which part of that was it that you didn't understand?
How are you aggrieved exactly, what is it that you think I have done - stated the truth about your behavior?
I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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LOL - for you:
Asperger's syndrome
1. a developmental disorder related to autism and characterized by awkwardness in social interaction, pedantry in speech, and preoccupation with very narrow interests.
I get your point, but really, there was very little I could do other than what I am doing now, which is to get it fixed! I reiterate - the phone was rooted prior to the usb getting broken, so, in affect what you are saying is that people should not root their phones if there is risk of not being able to connect to a pc, which means no one should ever risk rooting.
I think there is a place for your 'flaming' approach to people who don't know as much as you, but it certainly not here in a 'friendly, new peoples' forum. Fire away all you like in developers forums, I think you should stick to the rules here though and I suspect you would be the first to point out when others don't follow forum rules.
Your point about me saying 'I couldn't live without my phone' is ridiculous, it was just a figure of speech, if your car broke, would you not want it fixed asap? Not a lot of difference. I think you are making a big fuss over nothing, simply semantics.
I just think it's a shame that you feel the need to try to embarrass new people who are simply asking for help in a forum that is set up for just that Are you really that insecure? Is your self esteem so low?? LOL :laugh:
Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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theunderling said:
Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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Ooooo - did I get under your skin or something? Getting a bit close to the mark?? Just as you enjoy making your opinions public and having your say, so I am doing the same. Remember it was your choice to join in on this thread and start being insulting. If you don't like what you have got back maybe you will think twice about the way you communicate on a registered new peoples Q&A. You never know when that seemingly young little dog might bite back. If you don't want people to look at your profile then I suggest you keep it 'private' - there is a button for it, have a look. Isn't that line "I here the iphone5 is pretty good" getting a bit old now? I have seen you use it in quite a few of your recent posts, maybe you could think of a new one lol!
As I said to you previously, if you don't like getting it back maybe you shouldn't start in the first place.
BTW - your opening comments are ridiculous, what you say makes no sense - what point exactly were you trying to make anyway? Of course people come on here because they end up having problems, and they come to learn and try and find solutions.
Like I said, I have all week to continue this, although I agree with you that our time could be better served in actually helping others than bickering.
I have asked you some questions in this post, they really don't require a response as they are rhetorical (that means for you to think about) Now I suggest we agree to disagree, stop squabbling like school children and end this now. I am quite secure in myself, although I suspect your pride could take much more of a battering else you wouldn't have reacted so badly to my response's to you. And yes, I do indeed have the training and skills to 'psychoanalyze' as you say.
Maybe we can both stop taking our selves so damned seriously, as for reporting you, why would I want to do that, maybe just to give a moderator a good laugh? Now, shall we agree to move on?
That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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theunderling said:
That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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LOL! seems to me like it is actually you that is struggling with 'rising above criticism' and yes, you are right you have wasted a lot of time commenting in my thread, I'm sure it will give others a good chuckle though. You see, what you fail to understand is that I simply don't care about what you say about or think off me, I do however care about the next new guy that wants a bit of help and that's exactly why I'm prepared to stand up to your bullying nonsense.
Now maybe after all you do possess psychic abilities as you clearly seem to know what I think and would do in other circumstances than I have even considered, the thing is though, that no one else did say any of those things, it was only you!
And contrary to what you say the only other senior member that has commented was indeed extremely helpful and fill of useful suggestions rather than sarcastic criticism. I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Tried cleaning USB and there was a shed load of fluff and goodness knows what in there, also tried cleaning with a tooth brush and surgical spirit, still get failed to recognize USB error on pc though. I will look at the thread you suggested now. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Edit: I know the lead and ports on my pc are fine because they work perfectly on my wife's i9100.
Edit: Thanks, excellent thread by hopper8, I will be referring others to that thread, unfortunately nothing there that helps in my particular situation, just going to have to pay £25 to get new USB out in tomorrow as I don't fancy attempting it myself, looks kind of tricky!
This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
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This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I disagree, XDA is big and Google huge and after searching extensively I could find no conclusive answer to my specific query. That doesn't mean to say it's not there, just that I couldn't find it. I see on this forum time and time again new people struggling to navigate their way around these forums, perhaps if people were given a little more help to learn to 'search' maybe people would learn quicker saving the less tolerant purple on xda their precious time and effort to read what they consider to be tiresome threads.
Which leads me to my next thoughts, if your time is so precious and this specific subject has been covered so many times and is so boring, why would you 3 read it let alone comment??
Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have to say, no way you're getting it going again unless you can PC flash using Odin/Heimdall after running that ROMNuke script (I use the same script & have had similar issue once.) However, that brings me to my next point.. I was able to flash stock via Odin no problem in download mode. My USB port was working fine, because I'd recently replaced it. I know you rooted your phone before the USB port stuffed up, but moral of the story is, fix hardware defects immediately (volume keys, power keys, USB ports, whatever it is). You never know when you'll need them functioning correctly, as you unfortunately found out.
Not trying to have a dig, that's a friendly word of advice from my own experience.
Well, this is an attempt to possibly access more information. I may have read somewhere that stated in so many words, a little participation, or, even just an introduction, may get you a long way here on XDA. Now, whether or not there's any truth to this, isn't really of any importance. What's of importance, is how unimportant one may consider what someone else views as important. Setting that aside for a moment, what about the the truth that's actually quite commonly found leaving the liars mouth? I'll give examples in a moment but before I do, ask yourself if one were to actually tell the truth but believing it to be a lie, would what was said be considered by you, to be honest? I mean it is the truth, just delivered with dishonest intent, right? I am a newb, on an iphone 6+...iOS 11.2.5 just until I can put together the $100 deductible for the MOTO Z I dropped. I haven't been very active in these past years being with Verizon, but I wasn't very active before i made the switch. I was a DROID X2 bricker and I will always be. Just recently found a junkyard of old phones, that I or friends bricked, or dropped without insurance, cracked screen, no battery, etc.
What I am and have been working on, with no success is an On5 SM-G550T (A.R. MMB29K.G550TUVU2AQC4 samsung/on5ltetmo/on51tetmo) updated to 6.0.1/MMB29K/G550TUVU2AQC4
FRP and can't enable debugging with anything I have found thus far...I have used the enabler but may be flashing the wrong files as I have come across plenty G550TUVU1?????? but nothing found for G550TUVU2??????? I'm sure my recovery (TWRP) file is correct but until I can enable USB it's really not doing me any good. Any chance of someone(anyone that made it this far is respected!) possibly shootin me instructions or even just pointing me in the right direction. I have attempted flashing with odin and even OTG with other suggested files. Objective is to bypass frp by enabling debugging and flashing stock 5.0 firm so I may then install twrp and depending on my mood and position of the moon, maybe a super user and some ROM tryouts. You guys are awesome, even if you decide not to help. Developers, my thanks only goes so far and so do the rest of these words, so Ill be about it soon and wont talk about it now. But seriously, hat's off and I appreciate the countless hours, painful blinks and most importantly, the late arrivals and drop offs associated with such sacrifice. Thank you!!!
Hello guys
some of us are facing some battery issues (sudden shutdowns,abnormal drain,abnormal charging etc) like me.
i never believed it was a hardware issue,and i still dont.
my axon 7G had b23 stock firmware + latest gpu drivers from raysteff.
i was thinking to try gsi again so i went to twrp and connect it with usb to make some backup transfers.My battery was 48%,after the backup i opend the display and battery shows 62%.
I flashed twrp treble from nfound,wiped everything and rebooted in edl and flashed nfound vendor partition trough miflash.Boot in twrp,Now my data was somehow encrypted and i decied to cancel the unlock and flash o b12 bootstack from nfound.Reboot to twrp again and data still encrypted,again i canceled the operation.I went to look at data partition and it shows the partition is emmc (yes finally again).I am thinkin a long time the battery issues are related to wrong emmc readings.(because the emmc never showd up anymore in that time i complained about battery % issues,even when i went to stock etc)
i continue flashing gsi+treble and will report how the battery act now.
booted my treble gsi system on 57%...when booted the system shows 49%....dropped to 47% in 1 minute and now its already like 10minutes on 47%. I know a first boot dont need 8% of the battery.Im 99% sure our phone are reading bad emmc stats but how can we find proof
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers! It always did before (before los15 etc)i even changed battery.
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MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers! It always did before (before los15 etc)i even changed battery.
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Every, and i mean every, dev thread begins with a warning. No one is going to agree with you.
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So quick to blame others for your problems. How about thank us devs for what we brough to you guys. Without us you'd have nothing.
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So quick to blame others for your problems. How about thank us devs for what we brough to you guys. Without us you'd have nothing.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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Seems like to me if you don't like these ROM's or appreciate what is freely given with no guarantees you should go back to stock. That is unless you really enjoy complaining, even though, no else cares to hear it.
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I just read through your first post twice, and you are terribly confused. I don't understand if you are trying to work out battery issues or encryption issues, and I don't think you know what the term emmc means. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this thread?
You've been given proper help and were taken seriously already, but you never gave any piece of advice a proper chance, and you certainly never received any help without immediately insulting the person helping you. If you think everyone you've grouped under the word "devs" are conspiring to only give you buggy software, maybe don't flash literally everything you come across without understanding how it works.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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well, you said it. I'll tell you what you should do.
First of all, you should have checked whether the new battery was actually good before deciding it was fine. Since you're on a pretty bad situation already, I say you bite the bullet and buy a charge meter from Amazon or ebay. should cost less than $5, i'll leave a link down below for you to find one similar wherever you are. Just be sure that it displays mAh as there are some that only display V and mA. With this and offline charging you will have a much more precise way of knowing the state of your battery. This will be decisive and you'll be able to brag around that your problems are not caused by battery degradation ONCE YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE. If that's the case, of course.
(Btw, you might still be in warranty, in that case you can send the battery back and they'll send you another. If your battery was stowed at very low voltage, it could have lost its capacity even before you got it).
That's on the hardware side of things. Even though i (and almost everybody else) don't believe that you have a software problem, if you want to be sure that it's not something that the BAD EVIL DEVS11!!1! did you can just brush up on which partitions are supposed to not be changed (like the persist), which partitions are flashed by an EDL package, and investigate on whichever lie in the middle (i.e. since you said an EDL flash didn't fix your supposed software problem, the two options are a. your battery is bad or b. the partition that has the bad, evil files is not rewritten by EDL).
Then ask for someone that's never went to custom ROMs for their whatever partition backup and flash it.
I don't think anybody is going to disagree with me that this is the most obvious way to clear this up. Also, if you simply ignore this and not do anything like you usually do, you'll lose even more credibility here even though you already have none. You asked for help, now use it and report back in a non-inflammatory way if possible.
btw, link to a battery meter
https://www.amazon.com/Minzhi-Curre...pacity+meter&qid=1551327256&s=gateway&sr=8-14
@Choose an username...: You are obviously clueless, by stating that persist is not supposed to be changed. You shouldn't format it, because it will remain empty and not repopulate, and caution should be taken when modifying its' contents. An empty persist will result in things like autorotate not working, sensors (GPS, etc), not working, perhaps an an inability to boot.
Unlike the system partition, persist is mounted as writable by default and isn't subject to dm-verity or system write restrictions, any file manager running with root authority can change its' contents. This applies not just to the A7, but by pretty much all phones that have a persist partition (nearly all). It is very much like data/cache except it is mainly used and written to by the Android OS behind the scenes, and isn't accessible to unrooted users.
I am of the opinion that @Predatorhaze's issues are mostly due to misinformation given to him by others, bad practices by him, and maybe a failing battery. The EMMC chip inside the device (it is a block storage device containing partitions, metadata, bootloader, etc) is mist likely fine. When it begins to fail that means your phone is on the way out and can only be fixed by installing a new motherboard. You will experiences symptoms like crashes, failure to boot, loss of data, seemingly random issues and other misbehavior.
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
You really don't know as much as you think you do. I wonder how many people have been tricked by your advice regarding battery calibration.
You call me clueless but wiping persist partition and then reboot,its all fine.files are back.I tried this because I have a persist backup to restore,but I didn't had to.
But thanks for answers
,you already told this.I even replaced battery. Voltages look weird too before and after.
It goes to warranty and never zte again
@Predatorhaze: Sure.....and I'm the one who provided you with that backup copy. Did @Choose an username... and others from Schwifty Telegram recommend you delete/format persist contents? Probably they did, but as a joke. I don't call that helping someone. When I was there they did mention that they told you to do a "deep wipe" (low level format of the EMMC chip and all its' partitions and their contents). And they said that you did so.
They clown you behind your back like you're nothing, if I were you I'd stop listening to them or taking any advice they offer. Admittedly, you brought some of it on yourself, though.
If I post in any thread then I'm just trying to help, I don't get kicks by trying to help someone do something that will wreck their phones. You can take my posts as constructive criticism.
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@Predatorhaze: Sure.....and I'm the one who provided you with that backup copy. Did @Choose an username... and others from Schwifty Telegram recommend you delete/format persist contents? Probably they did, but as a joke. I don't call that helping someone. When I was there they did mention that they told you to do a "deep wipe" (low level format of the EMMC chip and all its' partitions and their contents). And they said that you did so.
They clown you behind your back like you're nothing, if I were you I'd stop listening to them or taking any advice they offer. Admittedly, you brought some of it on yourself, though.
If I post in any thread then I'm just trying to help, I don't get kicks by trying to help someone do something that will wreck their phones. You can take my posts as constructive criticism.
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Nope not once did anyone recommend him to wipe his persist and no one would ever recommend a deep wipe. Know your facts before pointing fingers. You are just as low as him. He came into the group asking for help, we gave him all the advice then he started bashing. He went ahead and did his own thing came back and said he did a "deep wipe" which is probably why he has all these issues now. We stopped supplying him help because he just runs his mouth just like you. Im glad I moved on from this phone. People like you and him ruin the dev community for phones.
@SaintZ93: Yeah sure I ruin dev communities...by donating money to devs that deserve it, providing constructive criticism and feedback in their threads, encouraging them to keep up the good work instead of constantly complaining, posting issues/bug reports on GitHub etc. I totally respect your work as a dev, Schwifty is solid. But with that said, I do remember with 110% certainty that @Choose an username... said that you guys jokingly recommended he do a deep wipe, he took it seriously. Too bad I didn't keep screenshots of the chat, then there would be proof.
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@Choose an username...: You are obviously clueless, by stating that persist is not supposed to be changed. You shouldn't format it, because it will remain empty and not repopulate, and caution should be taken when modifying its' contents. An empty persist will result in things like autorotate not working, sensors (GPS, etc), not working, perhaps an an inability to boot.
Unlike the system partition, persist is mounted as writable by default and isn't subject to dm-verity or system write restrictions, any file manager running with root authority can change its' contents. This applies not just to the A7, but by pretty much all phones that have a persist partition (nearly all). It is very much like data/cache except it is mainly used and written to by the Android OS behind the scenes, and isn't accessible to unrooted users.
I am of the opinion that @Predatorhaze's issues are mostly due to misinformation given to him by others, bad practices by him, and maybe a failing battery. The EMMC chip inside the device (it is a block storage device containing partitions, metadata, bootloader, etc) is mist likely fine. When it begins to fail that means your phone is on the way out and can only be fixed by installing a new motherboard. You will experiences symptoms like crashes, failure to boot, loss of data, seemingly random issues and other misbehavior.
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
You really don't know as much as you think you do. I wonder how many people have been tricked by your advice regarding battery calibration.
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Lol. you're just grasping at how little there is...
Persist shouldn't be changed after the phone comes out of the factory, because it contains some sensor calibration files. i'm not saying it doesn't ever get written, and i literally said below that line that he could even try getting a brand new persist backup from another phone because that's probably the best he can do (assuming he hasn't got one from his own phone)
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
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and about this? Don't even try.
I've seen the PMs that you sent to other people here, and i'm not gonna bite to your BS bait
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@SaintZ93: Yeah sure I ruin dev communities...by donating money to devs that deserve it, providing constructive criticism and feedback in their threads, encouraging them to keep up the good work instead of constantly complaining, posting issues/bug reports on GitHub etc. I totally respect your work as a dev, Schwifty is solid. But with that said, I do remember with 110% certainty that @Choose an username... said that you guys jokingly recommended he do a deep wipe, he took it seriously. Too bad I didn't keep screenshots of the chat, then there would be proof.
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Mike's right, it's an inside joke because he deep wiped the phone and said it made his phone detect two batteries. guess you remember wrong
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,you already told this.I even replaced battery. Voltages look weird too before and after.
It goes to warranty and never zte again
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so, you ignored me completely. Your battery being new doesn't mean that it didn't arrive trashed to your door.
Good, though. Swap the axon for something else, and call it a day
@AnonVendetta here are your screenshots. have fun
Straight from source
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@AnonVendetta here are your screenshots. have fun
Straight from source
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This is why people need to know their facts like I said before pointing fingers and blaming us for stuff we didn't say or do, preferably you Anon. Hope you stand corrected now.
@Choose an username...: You win there. But your logic is still screwed, because I wasnt even present during that convo. Those screens are from way before I ever showed up. When I said I recall, that logically means I would have had to be there, regardless of whether the memory is incorrect or not. And since you admit that it was an inside joke, that basically means you were trying to help him screw over his phone.
I really couldnt help busting out laughing after looking at the pics, @Predatorhaze dug his own grave. I mean, he mentioned deep wipe so many times, it's as if something was compelling him to do it. Clearly his own idea.
@Predatorhaze: Do yourself a favor, go smash your phone repeatedly with a hammer, at least then you can save yourself from listening to the advice of members that don't care to help anyway. There are newer phones out there, move on.
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@Choose an username...: You win there. But your logic is still screwed, because I wasnt even present during that convo. Those screens are from way before I ever showed up. When I said I recall, that logically means I would have had to be there, regardless of whether the memory is incorrect or not. And since you admit that it was an inside joke, that basically means you were trying to help him screw over his phone.
I really couldnt help busting out laughing after looking at the pics, @Predatorhaze dug his own grave. I mean, he mentioned deep wipe so many times, it's as if something was compelling him to do it. Clearly his own idea.
@Predatorhaze: Do yourself a favor, go smash your phone repeatedly with a hammer, at least then you can save yourself from listening to the advice of members that don't care to help anyway. There are newer phones out there, move on.
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may I ask, what logic is screwed now? You said I told Ter that, then a) we told you you were wrong, nothing more than that, and b) i sent screenshots proving that Ter was the one to jump on the deep wipe train. i never told you you should have known, which is what i assume you are peddling around here
@Choose an username...Are you *THAT* dumb? Since I wasn't there at the point during your screens, then I couldnt possibly know what was said then. I was recalling from the time I was there (and he wasn't), what was said. So if you want to also dig up screens of that too...