So I finally cave in and installed Greenify, extremely surprised, I currently have Mobilicity in Toronto and the signal sometimes become spotty, this, from my observations, will cause the phone to get hot (as if u let it in direct sunlight during summer), but that is not the only issue when the signal becomes spotty, also some applications trying to use the cell signal and/or using the location service will cause the phone to overheat, yet is mainly the cell signal.
And so I found the main culprits in my phone are TuneIn, Flixter, Transit Now Toronto Lite, Amazon Appstore, Google Wallet, Google Play Music, Google Maps, Video Hub, Video, Gallery, and Favourite Apps.
Enabled Automated hibernation, added those applications + a few others and things are looking good, well, if not by the last 5 apps noted above, Google Maps, Google Music, Video Hub, Video, and Favourite Apps, these 5 can't be put on hibernation by Greenify, also the phone still warms a bit, not as hot like before but just a bit warm., and battery is much better.
So the question is, why is Greenify unable to stop or hibernate Google Maps, Google Music, Favourite Apps, Video, and Video Hub?
They are system apps. Do you have the donate version of Greenify and have you activated the experimental features? And in what mode are you using Greenify, Root, Boost or Non-root?
No-root, regular version.
fenrry said:
No-root, regular version.
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If you have only a free version and no root, you will not be able to greenify system apps.
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If you have only a free version and no root, you will not be able to greenify system apps.
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Yeah, that was my impression and I confirmed it on my S2X (rooted), still, doesn't make sense with the video applications but in any case now I know.
Thanks!
fenrry said:
Yeah, that was my impression and I confirmed it on my S2X (rooted), still, doesn't make sense with the video applications but in any case now I know.
Thanks!
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Your video app might have installed as a system app. Or it may be problematic like Facebook.
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Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
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Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
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with es task manager you can enable and disable start up apps or running apps. this helped me from time to time. good luck
Use Greenify and Autostarts
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
blizeH said:
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
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Free does not mean best but try it .
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Hi there,
I have facing issue in my Android 4.2.1 JB from alst 7 days. There are few apps which automatically getting installed without asking my permission. It hapeens when they detect i am connected to Wi-Fi or mobile data connection. i didn't rebooted my device. Everytime i have to uninstall these apps but after few hours they get automatically installed . Device rooted 2 months back
Apps are:
Baidu Browser
UC browser
Flapy Bird
Poker
Option like USB debugging and installed from unknown source are turned off. Even scanned by device through multiple anti-virus like Avast, AVG & CM Security. Below are the apps which are currently in my device:
Adobe reader, all-in-one toolbox, angry bird, avg, avast, axis bank app, B1 free archiver, backup& restore, barcode scanner, battery doctor, call control, cam-scanner, chrome, clean master, CM Security, Easy Video player, EN-HI dictonary, fusion (music player), goggles, hdfc app, iMedia share, kickass torrent, linkedin, FB messanger, My Tom, Next Launcher 3D, Outlook, Oaytm, Push mail, Quickoffice, Rails, Ringtone Editor Pro, root uninstaller, skype, speedtest subway surfer, superuser, temple run 2, tubemate, whatsapp, youtube.
Please help.
aadishivan said:
Hi there,
I have facing issue in my Android 4.2.1 JB from alst 7 days. There are few apps which automatically getting installed without asking my permission. It hapeens when they detect i am connected to Wi-Fi or mobile data connection. i didn't rebooted my device. Everytime i have to uninstall these apps but after few hours they get automatically installed . Device rooted 2 months back
Apps are:
Baidu Browser
UC browser
Flapy Bird
Poker
Option like USB debugging and installed from unknown source are turned off. Even scanned by device through multiple anti-virus like Avast, AVG & CM Security. Below are the apps which are currently in my device:
Adobe reader, all-in-one toolbox, angry bird, avg, avast, axis bank app, B1 free archiver, backup& restore, barcode scanner, battery doctor, call control, cam-scanner, chrome, clean master, CM Security, Easy Video player, EN-HI dictonary, fusion (music player), goggles, hdfc app, iMedia share, kickass torrent, linkedin, FB messanger, My Tom, Next Launcher 3D, Outlook, Oaytm, Push mail, Quickoffice, Rails, Ringtone Editor Pro, root uninstaller, skype, speedtest subway surfer, superuser, temple run 2, tubemate, whatsapp, youtube.
Please help.
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Is someone messing around with your Google Account?
If someone login from your google account from computer and install app from play store site, it is installed from internet.
When you say it happens when you are connected to Wi-Fi or data, so I am 99.99% sure, it is due to messing with Google Account.
ok. Let me try removing my all google account from device and some other account to see if this happen again.
Thanks
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Is someone messing around with your Google Account?
If someone login from your google account from computer and install app from play store site, it is installed from internet.
When you say it happens when you are connected to Wi-Fi or data, so I am 99.99% sure, it is due to messing with Google Account.
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Hi there,
I removed all my google account from mobile and added new gmail account. But issue is still same.
Maybe you could try to disable "Auto-update apps" in google play.
Even i have the same problem. I even removed the auto-update but still its happening.
Please help ?
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Maybe you could try to disable "Auto-update apps" in google play.
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"Auto-update apps" is disabled in google play. But same this is keep happening. Did hard reset of my phone but same issue.
i have that same problem with my tablet from ebay running 4.2.2 app DU Battery Saver & Widgets is installed without my permission and i don't even have google account on this device, but tablet is connected on wifi 24/7 and all apps are stock i have original firmware and i try to reflash device but this is happening again
Very odd... Have you tried disabling the Install from Unknown Sources option?
now it is, let's see if this will help
i have something the same problem
I bought on e-bay a Chinese 10.1" M10 type with MTK8127 chipset and Android 4.4.2 Kernel: 4.3.67 tablet.
It works great except that it is every day i get a new surprise "great" application that are installed on their own, do not ask for anything and ready to license to be posted.
The tablet was rooted with VRoot_1.7.3.4863_english_cid1005_7337ba1e_89.exe and with MtkDroidTools_v253 do full backups.
Telepütek follows so far:
27/10/2014 1:16:17 DU Battery Saver
28/10/2014. 1:07:51 Flappy Cow
10/29/2014. Happy Jump 1:39:45
30/10/2014. 1:39:13 Freaking Math
31/10/2014. 1:49:11 Amazing Candle
11/1/2014. 1:28:43 Monkey (/data/app/com.candh.game.monkey-1.apk)
In addition, after each start / restart after a few minutes received a message in the notification area:
Du Battery Saver -> The key to optimize, clean up backstage power applications, rapid power
What I have tried:
Factory reset, after of course, google restore disabled and manually put up everything again.
Note that this is after factory reset the same applications in the same order almost exactly in same time per day.
The version numbera are earlier or actual that you can download from play.
The applications that I use on that device are the same that i use on other (Samsung) device so it is sure that there is no problem with them but i think the system itself compromised.
I tried Avast, Avira, eset, AirPush Block, Network connections, OS Monitor, Addons Detector, Trust - Event Logger but not found anything and I could not figure out what was happening.
I put CatLog - Logcat Reader to get it know whats happening but could not really understand what was happening.
Please help to figure it out based on the log to see what happens and how it happens and how can I get rid of this.
The following is a brief log details, of course, I will send out more on request.
See attachment.
kisger13 said:
I bought on e-bay a Chinese 10.1" M10 type with MTK8127 chipset and Android 4.4.2 Kernel: 4.3.67 tablet.
It works great except that it is every day i get a new surprise "great" application that are installed on their own, do not ask for anything and ready to license to be posted.
The tablet was rooted with VRoot_1.7.3.4863_english_cid1005_7337ba1e_89.exe and with MtkDroidTools_v253 do full backups.
Telepütek follows so far:
27/10/2014 1:16:17 DU Battery Saver
28/10/2014. 1:07:51 Flappy Cow
10/29/2014. Happy Jump 1:39:45
30/10/2014. 1:39:13 Freaking Math
31/10/2014. 1:49:11 Amazing Candle
11/1/2014. 1:28:43 Monkey (/data/app/com.candh.game.monkey-1.apk)
In addition, after each start / restart after a few minutes received a message in the notification area:
Du Battery Saver -> The key to optimize, clean up backstage power applications, rapid power
What I have tried:
Factory reset, after of course, google restore disabled and manually put up everything again.
Note that this is after factory reset the same applications in the same order almost exactly in same time per day.
The version numbera are earlier or actual that you can download from play.
The applications that I use on that device are the same that i use on other (Samsung) device so it is sure that there is no problem with them but i think the system itself compromised.
I tried Avast, Avira, eset, AirPush Block, Network connections, OS Monitor, Addons Detector, Trust - Event Logger but not found anything and I could not figure out what was happening.
I put CatLog - Logcat Reader to get it know whats happening but could not really understand what was happening.
Please help to figure it out based on the log to see what happens and how it happens and how can I get rid of this.
The following is a brief log details, of course, I will send out more on request.
See attachment.
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Did you disable the option to install from unknown sources?
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Did you disable the option to install from unknown sources?
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Yes, sorry i forget to write it.
I just. This morning also am getting random apps installed. Dominos pizza, panda pop and cookie jam the newest app i have installed is brave frontier can it be malware or something else.
4218kris said:
I just. This morning also am getting random apps installed. Dominos pizza, panda pop and cookie jam the newest app i have installed is brave frontier can it be malware or something else.
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It could be if you got it from anywhere but the official play store. Never install apps not from a trusted source.
4218kris said:
I just. This morning also am getting random apps installed. Dominos pizza, panda pop and cookie jam the newest app i have installed is brave frontier can it be malware or something else.
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I got the same apps today - Domino's PandaPop, and Cookie Jam plus Drippler. I did not install Brave Frontier, so that isn't the source.
The only things done recently for me are:
- Connected up to my work Office 365 service, which requires admin access (for wipe, etc)
- Updated su binaries a few days ago - at prompt from SuperSU
Oh lovely...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2853...aller-spotted-on-t-mobile-verizon-phones.html
yep thats it i bet, its on my tablet. thanks carrier...
Doktor-X said:
i have that same problem with my tablet from ebay running 4.2.2 app DU Battery Saver & Widgets is installed without my permission and i don't even have google account on this device, but tablet is connected on wifi 24/7 and all apps are stock i have original firmware and i try to reflash device but this is happening again
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I just got DU Battery Saver installed on my Onix tablet. You read stuff on the internet about cheap Chinese tablets coming loaded with spyware and other sorts of stuff and I wonder whether apps can be freely installed via some hidden app on the device.
You all suck dumb asses
Thats why i hate these blog sites they call themselves experts but cant solve any damn thing untick auto updates, really you think we didn't knew that much really man,my problem never got solved in online sites infact you will get more confused why would some hack someone's google account and download du app make some sense guys you all suck
Hi
First of all thank you Oasis for creating a tool to fix things that shouldn't be broken to begin with! You are an example for a lot of developers :good:
I've read the first couple of posts on the original thread but I still have a few things that are not clear..
The advice of Oasis himself is too hibernate only those apps that misbehave. He states that hibernating apps will also remove them from the memory, which will come with a performance/cpu usage penalty when you want to use them again.
In the video tutorial however Josh greenifies almost every application that doesn't need push notifications.
So this would mean that when I use an application that doesn't have notifications but I open frequently, for example Nu.nl, a dutch newsapp, it will always have to reload the app from scratch instead of loading it from memory?
So baically the best way to use Greenify would be to NOT just greenify most apps, but to use the analyzer frequently and see what's running in the background and greenify those that don't depend on notifications?
Then newsapps that don't push news, image viewers, file managers, system tools like SD Maid and simple games that don't use internet should be ok not being greenified?
Is there no big list available of apps that misbehave or are safe to keep de-greenified?
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
marchrius said:
Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
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Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
latino147 said:
Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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Ah, I believed those were two functions withing Greenify I couldn't find
wtf, FB has 62! services! None of them where active though, until you open the app, then it was 3.
So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
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Exactly. Take google play services for example. If you greenify it, you'll lose gcm and other functions and that's not advisable at all (in fact greenify hides it). But with disable service (and autostarts/system tuner)you can choose what to disable while still mantaining gcm, location services (when needed), sync etc. I can' remember what I did in system tuner regarding gplay services (I followed some tutorial), but with disable service I disabled analyticsservice (this one will reactivate itself unless you do some tweak with system tuner), refreshenabledstateservice, playlogreportingservice, googlehttpservice, playlogbrokerservice, adrequestbrokerservice, gcmschedulerwakeupservice, advertisingidservice, adsmeasurementservice, locationwearablelistenerservice, nlplocationreceiverservice, geocodeservice, dispatchingservice and playlogservice. A reboot is needed. Haven't lost a single function since weeks (gcm, location, autosync and every google app in general are working 100% fine).
Same story with play store. Apps wake it very often, so greenify it does more harm than good. Instead, you can disable pendingnotificationsservice, contentsyncservice and dailyhygiene (and will still be fully functional).
Of course these are little tips to increase performance and battery life even more. I use greenify for 90% and more of apps that "misbehave" and disable service/autostarts/system tuner for the remaining 10% "misbehaving" apps. However, an app "fixed" with such methods will stay cached while with greenify is completely closed (resulting in more cpu/time/battery consumption when loaded again).
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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Like I already said, for general purposes you'd better simply greenify the "misbehaving" apps. If you use it/it is woken very often, you can consider these methods.
Yes, it's a "trial and error" thing. Unless you're disabling services with self-explainatory names such as "pushservice".
Never installed Facebook official app but I heard many times that is a notorious hogger and takes many personal datas too, for which you can look for xprivacy xposed module as well.
I'll start experimenting with it today :good:
Hi there!
First of all I'm not a really big ROM magician nor a programmer/ developer, and I know for some people I wont tell any new thing with this thread/ post.
As everyone knows, our phones (U,Sola,GO) have 512 RAM. This is a problem, if there are bloatwares on our phone thus slowing it down. But what if there is no BW?? The answer: Yes, there is... three words: Google Play Services.
We can (finally) take advantage of Android app collection! Every application that needs Google Play Services has an alternative. Google Play Services is eating up our phone, especially the fresh versions. Just try to uninstall it from your phone, delete dalvik and cache then reboot, use the phone for some minutes, reboot again. Then you will see that it's much faster because there are more free RAM for the apps that are important in everyday usage, because Play Services is not sitting in the RAM.
BTW Google Play will still work without Google Play Services (but I think Google Services will be needed, but it's light).
OK, So that's all I just wanted you to know. I don't wanted to write this into any ROM's thread because it's generally usable info.
Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
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Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
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I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
Asycid said:
I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
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Push on Android devices are only desserved by Google Play Services
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
Asycid said:
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
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When I say Push notifications I talk about Internet applications who send live notifications without open apps like Twitter, Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Tumblr, Tapatalk, Snapchat, PayPal, Foursquare and many more
Ahhh, okay, then this is why I haven't seen the missing notifications... because I never used any internet apps that uses push
Ok, so thanks for the information, it's good to know. I'll don't miss this feature, but someone may. So thanks again.
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
Vtrendzzy said:
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
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This.
Yes, remove Play Services from your phone will make your phone faster. Play Services is kinda useful for some apps. Without Play Services they may even cannot launch. Well, it is a paradox.
Just froze those unnecessary apps, and unfreeze when needed , that is what I do.
Many apps won't work without Google Play Services.
So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
noddledizzy said:
So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
ChazzMatt said:
Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
noddledizzy said:
I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
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No cleaners, optimizers, etc?
I'm just asking because I had installed paid CC cleaner app upon a good review on technical website. But after running for a few days I noticed it was killing tasks in the background, like Waze when I would look at an incoming email. Waze was running just fine until it temporarily became a background task. Then it got killed, even though I was still using it!
Also my phone started running hot and had become sluggish in spite of the fact this app was supposed to be "optimizing" my phone. So I uninstalled it.
I'm just curious if there's some app you've have for a while that you forgotten about, that is doing something like that... That would also explain why you see it on stock as well as custom ROMs, because it would be an app you installed yourself.
Least likely is you have the nuclear setting in Developer Options to limit how many apps can run at one time. Most people don't even know about that.
Otherwise I have no other answers.
Thanks for the insight. But the thing is, 90% of apps I have in both my US998 and H918 are open-source from F-droid. None of them really messes up with my battery. The only proprietary apps I have are first party apps from Google like Youtube, Google maps and Play services and some stock LG apps. Yeah, I never touch the app background limit in the developer options. Anyway, I appreciate you trying to help me and you already helped me a lot before.