I know there are many BT/Wifi problem threads but even with wifi disabled and running a sync test file from the internal storage I have a 400ms delay when using Bluetooth headphones. Is this a sign of a defective unit or is there fix or a possible future OTA patch?
The delay does seem to get a little worse when there is heavy wifi usage. I love my prime despite other minor glitches, but this one is really bugging me.
robtheslob said:
I know there are many BT/Wifi problem threads but even with wifi disabled and running a sync test file from the internal storage I have a 400ms delay when using Bluetooth headphones. Is this a sign of a defective unit or is there fix or a possible future OTA patch?
The delay does seem to get a little worse when there is heavy wifi usage. I love my prime despite other minor glitches, but this one is really bugging me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I have had many a bluetooth audio device and it is more the exception than the rule for there to not be any streaming "lag".
Your issue is likely caused by the headphones and not the TP. Try another BT receiver (i.e. BT Speakers, or your computer, etc) and try another BT Source (i.e. phone or ipod touch).
I've used the headphones with several other BT devices with no lag. I can try to whip together another receiver to test.
I've always had a slight lag with Bluetooth audio. My Prime, Nexus One, and my Cowon S9 all have it, so it's not exclusive to the Prime or Android. Kinda lame, but it is what it is.
Every phone/BT device I've had that streams audio via A2DP generally always has a lag. I know this because I have movies playing in my car sometimes and to make things work, I have to offset the audio by x amount of seconds to ensure everything is synced.
Basically, it's perfectly normal.
My evo 4g & evo 3d never seemed to have any lag, but I know BT is not perfect. I use MX player because I like the UI on tablets, but video player would you recommend to be able to set the audio delay?
I plan on trying one of my plantronics headset with the prime soon , the speaker is definitely not that loud.
If anyone could suggest a media player that allows you to set the audio delay/offset, it would be greatly appreciated. I've tried a few different players and can't find one that has this feature... anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Dice player . I have no lag with my bt headphones with this player
aahz123 said:
Dice player . I have no lag with my bt headphones with this player
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you running Honeycomb, or Ice Cream Sandwich.
Also, any idea if this is for s/w decoding or h/w? (does it make a difference for you?)
I tried Dice Player, like the program, but it still lags on BT audio.
Funnily enough, I've seen audio streaming lag in every scenario including external bluetooth speakers, bluetooth in car, prime, phone, but there is absolutely no lag when pairing my bluetooth headset to my prime or phone.
I guess it really varies, but audio lag via bluetooth is nothing new.
This was asked earlier in this thread but with no answer. Does anyone know of a video player that has an adjustable video/audio delay to compensate for bt delay? Or can anyone who has not got a delay when playing through bt headphones say what make of headphones they use? Thanks.
jdudb said:
This was asked earlier in this thread but with no answer. Does anyone know of a video player that has an adjustable video/audio delay to compensate for bt delay? Or can anyone who has not got a delay when playing through bt headphones say what make of headphones they use? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use Jabra Halo's paired with dice player. I am streaming both avi and mkv from my NAS from esfileexplorer. It has also been fine using buble upnp to do the streaming. In all cases it says it is hardware decoding. I have another set of bluetooth headphones. I'll check these soon.
aahz123 said:
I use Jabra Halo's paired with dice player. I am streaming both avi and mkv from my NAS from esfileexplorer. It has also been fine using buble upnp to do the streaming. In all cases it says it is hardware decoding. I have another set of bluetooth headphones. I'll check these soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I am sure in my case it is the heaphones because it does it with other computers as well.
BUYMECAR said:
Funnily enough, I've seen audio streaming lag in every scenario including external bluetooth speakers, bluetooth in car, prime, phone, but there is absolutely no lag when pairing my bluetooth headset to my prime or phone.
I guess it really varies, but audio lag via bluetooth is nothing new.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What headset do you use?
BT lag
I have two bluetooth headphones, from nokia, the BH-505 (2.1) and a BH-501 (2.0). With my phone a LG Optimus 2x i have no lag at all. With the previous transformer (the first) i had no lag, Dice player included. On Transformer prime, with honeycomb i had no lag either, but since i upgraded to the ICS there's a lag with both BT headphones...
i've tried MX player and Dice player and both lag
Did anyone manage to sort this?
It's frustrating that I can switch immediately from my Prime to my Razr Maxx, with the same source video and the same BT Audio device (Jambox) and have nearly-imperceptible lag on the phone, but the supposedly more powerful Prime lags behind almost a half second.
What's Motorola doing correctly that Asus isn't/can't?
It depends on BT profile in use
I've been researching BT audio lag quite a bit, because I game a lot. Latency for playing music means nothing. For watching video, well you can compensate (like with suggested with Dice player). But for gaming, lag is a big deal.
I've tried a ton of device combos. Everything, *EVERYTHING* I've tried has >400ms lag. $400 BT headphones (Zik, mm500x), with computers, laptops, running different OSes (win/linux), BT audio gateways/dongles, PS Vita, Samsung, HTC and Motorola smartphones; you name it. Lag is there every stinkin' time.
From what I can tell, it has to do with the default compression scheme used by A2DP (SBC something). The delay is the encoding and transmitting of that encoded audio to your headphones.
When reading posts about this, for those who report no lag, when I dig deep I find one of two things: Either they were just using music or video as their test case, or they /are/ playing a game, but with the /headset/ protocol. The headset protocol (not A2DP) is for when you're making calls. A call being a two-way interactive thing, you need minimal lag. The problem is that the audio quality for the headset protocol is horrible. It's optimized for human voice. Sure you can play game using it, with no lag, but it'll sound like hell.
Some have mentioned that BT 4.0 can help. First, I can't find any true BT 4.0 headphones. But, in researching this, it seems the main thing that BT 4.0 brings to the table is low-power consumption. BT itself is a lower-level communication protocol. What we're after here is a level or so up, in the BT profiles.
Finally, I found mention of a proprietary audio compression codec, by CSR, called aptX. It can compress high-quality audio more, will less loss, and does it fast. This appeared to be the answer. I now have a pair of Sennheiser MM500x BT headphones, which support this, and a phone that supports it too (Evo 4g LTE/HTC One X). No dice.
The problem I'm finding now is that there is two ways to utilize such a codec: a) you can compress that same quality audio down into almost nothing, so there's less to transmit to your headphones, which can minimize lag. Sounds like a winner, but...you can also b) use even higher-quality audio, which is a lot more data, and compress that down to about what you had before, then transmit it. So, the transmission takes the same amount of time (>400ms) but you end up with audiophile quality sound over BT.
Unfortunately, it seems that aptX was made for the latter. Audio professionals wanted BT to be able to be used for super quality audio, beyond what we typically see with A2DP's SBC.
And, that's where I'm at now. Googling for "low latency bluetooth audio for gaming" has yielded very little relevant information.
Apparently I'm alone in wanting to use BT headphones for gaming.
Just updated to V9.2.4.0.MHOMIEK, now there's audio stuttering using variable playback speed apps. i.e. podcast apps (pocketcasts) or audiobook (audible) apps stutter noticeably when playback speed is over 1.5x. Higher playback speed, more stutter. Should work to 3x without problem. Affects sound output on sound hardware (internal speaker, 3.5mm, bluetooth). Turning off battery optimization of these apps, MIUI optimization, Ram management doesn't affect anything. I remember experience this on Nexus 5 / 6.0 and fixed it by switching media codec in Developer options, but no idea what to do for MIUI. Anyone have ideas?