zenfone 4 snapdragon 660 or 630? project treble works? more clarity - Asus Zenfone 4 (2017) Questions & Answers

ok im going to buy a zenfone 4 with snap 660 due to higher performance and i want to know if the tpwr works on both sn 630 and 660 and also oreo 8.0
also any help to flash los 15 on this with project treble
and tpwr and root
any guide detailed would be appreciate

Asus has a bad off spec implementation of project treble. Don't buy this phone. It's not worth the greef that it is due to the fact it has no roms and no community support.

hope anyone build a lineage os... this is one best buy:
high quality stereo speakers, OIS and EIS cameras, good battery,best powerful mid range snapdragon 660 , 6gb ram lpddr4x, fast charge, very bright ips lcd 600 nits ( no BURN IN), 4k videos, 64gb and .... the headphone jack!!!!!
found on ebay only at 260$ new

Phone Spec and performance is good. I never seen worst support from Asus team . Too low support custom rom build this phone. Double think before going to buy.

prakashwaran said:
Phone Spec and performance is good. I never seen worst support from Asus team . Too low support custom rom build this phone. Double think before going to buy.
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probably i think to buy le eco le pro 3 6/64gb
better processor,gpu,stereo speakers,better battery
camera is the same of op 3t and very good, fastcharge 3.0, lineage os support and overall a good choice

Asus have plan enable to Create vendor partition on porting ZE554KL to installed GSI image. But timeline wont committed from development team.
Hope this will positive move from asus. Hope on will get soon with Oreo 8.1 update
Check : https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=213446&page=1#pid880625

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prakashwaran said:
Asus have plan enable to Create vendor partition on porting ZE554KL to installed GSI image. But timeline wont committed from development team.
Hope this will positive move from asus. Hope on will get soon with Oreo 8.1 update
Check : URL
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Do uoy have any news? Link is not avaliable for me

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Miui Le pro 3 elite x722, When????

Waiting for Miui for x722, I would be very happy. :crying::crying:
me 2, i have a wifi problem in my phone, it cant connect to wifi
I'm w8 for a new rom to try a soluction
The open source code wasn't released now for x722..
No MIUI but last few days and in the near future we get:
020s by Steve Mars
026s with 020s kernel by Steve Mars
026s by Steve Mars (026s kernel)
020s by Hellas Team
and, hopefully, vendor Android 7.1.1. (Banggood) from somebodys newly acquired 6GB x722
Maybe someone buy a 6gb version with android 7.1.1?
I think there is one from htcmania forum
miui
too I want miui on x722
ilya515 said:
too I want miui on x722
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Install ROM from : leeco.re
POST [tora33][X722] Multi Pro3 X722 stable 20s rom, Magisk+V4A+Xposed (from 26s to 20s)
Rom from Letv max 2. Fantastic.
"It's like MJU. You can also install the MJU launcher from the Play Store.
I had over a year of LetV X500 and MJU. I know what you want. I now have a ROM from Hellada. Its De BEST.
AND Warning; If you have Letv X722 Elite and EIU v.26 : FIRST DOWNGrade to ver: 20s ; unlock bootloader .
Thank you
forenti said:
Install ROM from : leeco.re
POST [tora33][X722] Multi Pro3 X722 stable 20s rom, Magisk+V4A+Xposed (from 26s to 20s)
Rom from Letv max 2. Fantastic.
"It's like MJU. You can also install the MJU launcher from the Play Store.
I had over a year of LetV X500 and MJU. I know what you want. I now have a ROM from Hellada. Its De BEST.
AND Warning; If you have Letv X722 Elite and EIU v.26 : FIRST DOWNGrade to ver: 20s ; unlock bootloader .
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Thank you
dakok said:
No MIUI but last few days and in the near future we get:
020s by Steve Mars
026s with 020s kernel by Steve Mars
026s by Steve Mars (026s kernel)
020s by Hellas Team
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Which one would you recommend?
The one closest to original EUI - Genesys 26s by Steve Mars
dakok said:
The one closest to original EUI - Genesys 26s by Steve Mars
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And which one would you recommend now with lineage 14 and paranoid 7 being out for a few weeks now, did you try both? What is your experience with them? Thanks a lot!
MIUI 9
Very very pleased!!! - i want miui on this phone(((((
IIt would be nice to see it in some time but i dont think it is compatible yet. Even the battery administration can be a really big problem, for example.
Port from x720
Please port from leeco x720 pro3 - miui 9 v2...
Please, port from multirom Xiaomi mi5
Why do you guys want MIUI so badly? Someone ported a working LOS ROM on Oreo for this phone and you guys still want MIUI... you guys should've just bought Xiaomi phones then.
sk8223 said:
Why do you guys want MIUI so badly? Someone ported a working LOS ROM on Oreo for this phone and you guys still want MIUI... you guys should've just bought Xiaomi phones then.
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Yeah people are strange Xiaomi phones are cheap as chip like $200 or less. I got Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 with Sd625, it's decent. Battery 2-3 days for moderate use. They make good phones Wifi signal and everything work excellent. The stock OS is well optimized and everything flying. I also have Redmi4 sd625 32gb rom/3Gb ram, some of the things it does it's faster than Le Pro3 that how good Xiaomi optimize the phone. If you never buy Xiaomi you missing out on some good phones, not rip off charging so much for a piece of plastic like Sammy, Huawei, Apple etc
Moon75 said:
Yeah people are strange Xiaomi phones are cheap as chip like $200 or less. I got Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 with Sd625, it's decent. Battery 2-3 days for moderate use. They make good phones Wifi signal and everything work excellent. The stock OS is well optimized and everything flying. I also have Redmi4 sd625 32gb rom/3Gb ram, some of the things it does it's faster than Le Pro3 that how good Xiaomi optimize the phone. If you never buy Xiaomi you missing out on some good phones, not rip off charging so much for a piece of plastic like Sammy, Huawei, Apple etc
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Whilst I agree with you about the virtues of Xiaomi devices ( Redmi note 2 here ) I don’t think even Xiaomi provides anything with this price/specs/hardware combination ( Don’t know how much it was at time of op , but now it’s $150 ) And I suppose if someone likes miui , and knows there’s a rom for x720 , it’s not such a stretch that they might ask for it on this device .
thewell said:
Whilst I agree with you about the virtues of Xiaomi devices ( Redmi note 2 here ) I don’t think even Xiaomi provides anything with this price/specs/hardware combination ( Don’t know how much it was at time of op , but now it’s $150 ) And I suppose if someone likes miui , and knows there’s a rom for x720 , it’s not such a stretch that they might ask for it on this device .
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Well, the Mi5 does, but with less RAM, unless you choose the "Pro" edition. It lacks support for North American bands, though (1700 AWS), unlike the Pro3 Elite. But it has a slightly better screen, Corning Gorilla Glass 4 and a headphone jack. Oh, and NFC and an IR port and a barometer, of all things. But it's battery is smaller (3000mAh). It also gets updates, unlike the Pro3 Elite, but still costs more even though it's a year older. Otherwise specs wise they're both pretty much the same.
The best bargain out there would be the Pro3 standard variant with the Snapdragon 821 and NFC for $230 or even $300, but you'd never catch me paying $300 for an LeEco phone... too risky since hardware defects seem to be widespread. With Xiaomi phones, you pay a bit more and you get more support. Hardware tends to be decent, but not perfect. You'll still hear about screen issues, camera issues, and so on. Just look at the Mi A1 and its screen issues and headphone jack issues... QC is still lacking in China.
But then again, look at LG's horrible record. Three bootlooping phones in 1 year: LG V10, LG Nexus 5X, LG G4. Good luck getting those RMA'd, lol. And even the Nexus 6P has so many battery and bootloop issues. Even the Pixel 2 and Galaxy S8 Snapdragon variant have problems! The issue is with all Android OEMs. They pump too many phones out without quality checking them. It's something that will only be fixed as smartphones mature.

BAD NEWS: Elephone S8 *Pro* in July with Android 8.1 and improved hardware

Looks a lot like our device but they've moved to a Snapdragon 660 chipset and will offer a 128Gb model. Also they've moved the fingerprint button to the side and replaced the rear camera with dual 13 Megapixel ones.
Details delivered with an *outrageous* Chinese accent at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U19reNEiE-c after the ugly A4 notch job. Really that design was braindead when Apple did it - no idea why anyone would copy it!
I say this is bad news because Elephone is unlikely to bother with an Oreo release for the non-pro when they've changed chipset already ...
Plowmanx said:
Looks a lot like our device but they've moved to a Snapdragon 660 chipset and will offer a 128Gb model. Also they've moved the fingerprint button to the side and replaced the rear camera with dual 13 Megapixel ones.
Details delivered with an *outrageous* Chinese accent at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U19reNEiE-c after the ugly A4 notch job. Really that design was braindead when Apple did it - no idea why anyone would copy it!
I say this is bad news because Elephone is unlikely to bother with an Oreo release for the non-pro when they've changed chipset already ...
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And how is that bad news?
It looks nice, sadly no 3,5mm jack connection, so it's a no go for me.
Update ist out
https://bbs.elephone.hk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=14242&extra=page=1&mobile=2
Actually, no, the update isn't out. It's an "alternative" 7.1.1 ROM that according to the reviews on the elephone site breaks more than it fixes.
I'm one of the lucky ones whose phone functions well as it is. I remain vulnerable to a host of security flaws because Elephone have refused to publish the source for this phone, which means the phone can't be supported by the open developer community. And that's a worse problem than the fact that Elephone won't release the updates they promised. Shame.

If you were to change...

Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
SpawnX1200 said:
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.

What makes a custom rom development possible?

Tittle says it all. Why pocophone as soon as september 2018 already had custom roms avaiable here on XDA and other phones such as Mi 9, S10, V20 almost 3 months since launch doesn't have any?
What makes it possible to develop custom OS and ported OS?
I really wanted to purchase a Mi 9 but MIUI is absolutely unbearable. Will miss so much OOS for Poco F1
Edit: Is it a long way to learn how to port ROMs, GSI to the point i can develop my own OOS for my desired phone?
It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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Sorry buddy i wasn't very clear. I am using OOS and if i move to another device such as Mi 9 i will miss it so much.
I really wish to know the best way to understand my android system so i could tweak it to my likings.
Buy a pixel/OnePlus and you will have countless roms to play

poco f1 or redmi note 8 pro?

im confused , plz answer.
is it worth buying poco f1 in September 2019? or should i wait for redmi note 8 pro?
Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
xjudexiii said:
Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
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My budget is 18000 - 19000 rs
Couple of Weeks back I replied to similar Question HERE and HERE so I am going to Extract my answers because they are still valid
1. the follwoing member had RN7 and was thinking to buy Poco so I replied ...
Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
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2. This user asked many questions (pasting here ) and I replied ....
Originally Posted by GopalKaul
Hola!
I am a zuk Z2 plus user(it has sd 820). I am looking to upgrade from this phone to a good phone with 20k INR budget. Please help me-
1) is it worth buying in 2019?
2) are custom roms good enough with no issues?
3) average sot on Pie custom roms?
4) any issues with the device?
5) is camera compatible with gcam?
6) any other things you think i should know?
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1. only if you are getting GOOD Discount!
2. CrDroid is Good for PubG, but Havoc2.8 on Optimus Drunk Kernel is NEXT to Miui! (you can youtube "poco f1 on Havoc" and see for yourself)
3. on Havoc I get 6+ hours 4g social media Time.
4. I am high maintenance "sheldon Cooper" type person so for me any device has many issue but the following problems are with poco f1 (according to me)
a. Mixer Path file cannot be tweaked for Volume boost, only on kernel level which is still unsatisfactory for me. ( this is due to modified vendor+firmare image of poco f1 by xiaomi)
b. 3g usb tethering gives process crashing issues due to modified vendor firmware on all custom roms!
c. notch takes 60% of status bar
d. viewing angels arent that good! and kcal setting is must! but still often leaves me tears in eyes if i watch 2hrs of netflix movies!
e. no stereo speakers!
f. even on custom rom! device do get warm and later heats up! the software doesnt starts freezing/lagging but still disturbs me!
5. yes
6. wait little longer! and go for 5g phone with better display!
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It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
Mafioso said:
It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
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Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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Poco is lot better than 5z. So unless you're getting a great deal on the 5z, its not worth considering
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.

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