Gtalk never stays connected - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

So I've had my Note for 2 days now and I've noticed that Google talk never stays connected. When I wake the phone up and open Gtalk it always shows that it had lost the connection and then starts reconnecting. I'm in the middle of Atlanta and I have never once left LTE coverage, so I know its not a handoff issue.
Has anyone else had trouble with this? Think I'm gonna get the phone switched out for a new one today if this turns out to be just me.
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I currently have the same issue, but it's been happening on my last couple of devices before I got my note. Last time I checked / googled (about a month ago) there were a lot of people having this issue with various devices and no solid solution yet so you probably won't need to switch out your note as it may not help.
I've tried a number of things with no success but if anyone else has ideas that would be great.

Wow that is very dissapointing. My Captivate I had before this had no problems what-so-ever with google talk. I really don't want to have to switch back to that, but I use Google talk a lot and it might be a deal killer for me.
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camaroz28 said:
Wow that is very dissapointing. My Captivate I had before this had no problems what-so-ever with google talk. I really don't want to have to switch back to that, but I use Google talk a lot and it might be a deal killer for me.
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Have you tried a 3rd party app?
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No, and to be honest I wouldn't consider that a solution. If my apticate running stock gingerbread was able to work fine with the stock app, then this should too.
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I had the Skyrocket, Note and Their LTE elevated 4g. with ALL the at&t LTE devices gtalk will not stay signed in. In fact you are getting disconnected from the Google servers when this happens wo you won't be getting gmails either.
This has been going on for months and mostly happens in LTE markets.
If anyone found a solution to this problem please share.

clubtech said:
I had the Skyrocket, Note and Their LTE elevated 4g. with ALL the at&t LTE devices gtalk will not stay signed in. In fact you are getting disconnected from the Google servers when this happens wo you won't be getting gmails either.
This has been going on for months and mostly happens in LTE markets.
If anyone found a solution to this problem please share.
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I actually ended up exchanging mine for a new one, and the new one has never lost the connection whether it be gtalk or google servers in general. I've stayed in the exact same LTE market as well.

When did you exchange it and what market are you in? Maybe they fixed the problem.I last checked early march and it was still happening in San Francisco

clubtech said:
When did you exchange it and what market are you in? Maybe they fixed the problem.I last checked early march and it was still happening in San Francisco
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I exchanged it last Monday the 12th, the new one never had the problem from the very beginning. I am in the Atlanta area, it seems like it is a problem of individual phones if exchanging for a new one fixed it for me, also not everyone is experiencing the problem from what I can tell.

I have the same issue. Seems like my Atrix doesn't have that problem.
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camaroz28 said:
I exchanged it last Monday the 12th, the new one never had the problem from the very beginning. I am in the Atlanta area, it seems like it is a problem of individual phones if exchanging for a new one fixed it for me, also not everyone is experiencing the problem from what I can tell.
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This is not related to a device as I tested with 3 different lte devices and they all had the same issue. I then placed the same sim card in my none lte galaxy note and the problem went away. I haven't checked since early March as I am out of the country but who knows...maybe they finally fixed the issue.

clubtech said:
This is not related to a device as I tested with 3 different lte devices and they all had the same issue. I then placed the same sim card in my none lte galaxy note and the problem went away. I haven't checked since early March as I am out of the country but who knows...maybe they finally fixed the issue.
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There have been no software updates to this phone at all, I'm using the stock ROM too. If my first phone had the problem and my second one doesn't, that means its an issue with individual devices (maybe a lot if you had the problem on 3 different ones). The chances of there being any changes on AT&T's side at the exact moment I exchanged my phone are absurdly small.

camaroz28 said:
There have been no software updates to this phone at all, I'm using the stock ROM too. If my first phone had the problem and my second one doesn't, that means its an issue with individual devices (maybe a lot if you had the problem on 3 different ones). The chances of there being any changes on AT&T's side at the exact moment I exchanged my phone are absurdly small.
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I understand that but i had 4 different devices (LTE note, Galaxy II Skyrocket, One of their new LTE LG phone - forgot the name and their Elevate 4G LTE mifi). They were all on different lines with different simcards and they ALL had the google talk issue.
The only time this was not happening with an LTE device is when i traveled outside of an LTE coverage zone. This is the only time the connection was stable.
You must agree that it is impossible that all of these devices were defected right?
I also have a none LTE galaxy note and a galaxy nexus and this is not happening on those devices (as they are not LTE).
It is something with their LTE network setup that is killing the connection to the Google servers after a certain time of idle.

Just thought I'd add that I'm in an area where I'm on the very edge of the nearest LTE tower, so I'm constantly switching between that and HSPA+ (and WiFi while at home) and I haven't noticed any issues with staying connected with GTalk. None of my friends have noticed me getting disconnected either. The only issue I've had is it doesn't always set me to away when the screen is locked, although it does seem to always set me as Online when I unlock the screen.

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[Q] 4G cutting out since 6/4

Ever since around the 4th my 4g has been acting up like crazy. I live in Hollywood so I don't think it's a verizon issue. Has anyone else been having problems? I'm thinking maybe it was from an app update with a glitch in it? My phone is totally stock but I have around 400 apps (I know, too many, I can't help it...) I've gone through all of the app permissions looking for an app that can change my network connections but no luck so far. I know this is kind of a shot in the dark but if anyone else had this happen and figured it out that would be great. I'm open to suggestions.
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The My Verizon App was recently updated (and removed the homescreen widget, so I didn't update mine), so that might have something to do with the problem.
Does 3G work fine?
I have been having this same problem, so is a friend on another device. When we switch to 3g, 4g never returns unless airplane mode is cycled.
My my verizon app is up to date but I still have the data widget. I haven't updated the "location agent" one though. I'm not sure about the 3g working...the 4g symbol just comes and goes so fast I don't think the phone has time to switch onto 3g. It doesn't happen 24/7 but when it does it's like a non stop cycle of on and off (like an app struggling to do something)..
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So my daughter just recorded a 10 min video on its a small world. Next time I check my phone I have no 3 or 4 g just bars. I don't think anything of it until I'm elsewhere and my wife has 4g and I don't. I cycle my 4g widgetsoid and get service. Screen off and on and no Vs again. Airplane mode, same problem. Finally I put it in airplane, powered it off and did a battery pull. It's fine now.
I've tried turning the phone off, fully restarting it, pulling the battery, and cycling through airplane mode but I haven't tried pulling the battery off after powering down while in airplane mode though (that was a mouthful). Maybe that's the magic combination... I'll give it a shot and see what happens, thanks. I'll post if it helps out or not.
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Had the same issue sporadically. Only app I've added since then is Firefox beta but seriously doubt that is to blame.
Actually had this issue this morning for a bit, then resolved on its own.
I have been having the issue of my 4g randomly dropping, 3g not kicking on (just signal bars), and the 4g coming back when it feels like it.
I did a battery pull, cycling the 4g, airplane mode, etc. and still having the same issue.
This started around Verizon's useless upgrade.
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So far so good since I did a battery pull and let my phone fully boot while in airplane mode... Only time will tell..
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I haven't had 4g since I rooted....so I am a little worried...
I also have had the worst 4g service the past week or so. I have a htc rezound and live in the suburbs of Detroit, MI. I have tried everything under the sun but cannot get it working. This is obviously a Verizon issue, because it started happening out of nowhere. I didn't download any nee apps or change any system settings. I don't understand why this is happening. I do not want a refurbed phone so I will not send mine in for a replacement. I'm sure that wouldn't even fix the issue. Verizon needs to get to work and figure this out.
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I also have had the worst 4g service the past week or so. I have a htc rezound and live in the suburbs of Detroit, MI. I have tried everything under the sun but cannot get it working. This is obviously a Verizon issue, because it started happening out of nowhere. I didn't download any nee apps or change any system settings. I don't understand why this is happening. I do not want a refurbed phone so I will not send mine in for a replacement. I'm sure that wouldn't even fix the issue. Verizon needs to get to work and figure this out.
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try preforming a factory reset in bootloader. It has fixed my 4g issues
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I haven't had 4g since I rooted....so I am a little worried...
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My 4G is fine and I'm rooted and running a custom ROM (Ineffabilis 1.4).
Have you checked if 4G is enabled in your settings?
(Search for 4G toggle in the Play Store)
Some people reported that their phone disabled 4G in the settings for no reason.
Everything was fine for a couple days then all of a sudden it started acting up again...I have a feeling it's the new draw something free app...maybe..
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Lol apps do NOT cause data to cease or "hang". It appears to be Verizon as I have been having 4g issues on stock gb and ics.
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Same issues here (multiple ROMs). 4G has been sporadic or non-responsive and 3G is about as bad. Started a couple weeks ago. I have tried hard resets, ROMs, firmware updates, etc and nothing.
Good to see I'm not the only one.
Any other Verizon devices that can confirm this?
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Lol apps do NOT cause data to cease or "hang". It appears to be Verizon as I have been having 4g issues on stock gb and ics.
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oh, right, I knew that (not really ), thanks.
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Ok, so I've had the issue that the OP is talking about since I got the phone like 5 days ago. Since I wasn't rooted (and still aren't) I decided to call Verizon about the issue. I've talked to multiple Verizon techs and after they had me do basic steps, like checking wireless networks settings. Nothing they told me I hadn't tried myself already prior to calling them. I even got a replacement BRAND NEW rezound and sim card and am still having the same issue. I have decided to try and figure it out myself and have been running various logcats to try and narrow the issue down. Problem is I don't really know how to read these logs too well. If there was someone who has more knowledge in reading logcat logs id be happy to upload or send them to you if you think you can help. Any help in resolving this issue would be awesome as Verizon seems to be unaware of the issue up until now and I would like to resolve it before I root. I'm going to give them a call tonight and explain some of my findings to see if they can give anymore input or get me to a higher lvl tech.
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richii0207 said:
Lol apps do NOT cause data to cease or "hang". It appears to be Verizon as I have been having 4g issues on stock gb and ics.
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According to my findings, it very well could be. I'm thinking it may have something to do with vznavigator. But don't quote me on that as from what I said before, I don't know how to read logcats too well.
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Yeah I'm still having issues. There must be something going on with verizon? I haven't dealt with logging yet but I'll look into it and see what happens.
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VZW Support Question(s)

Can someone explain to me the customer service levels at Verizon? I've been dealing with 4G data connection problems since the beginning of June. I decide to finally create a support ticket on July 3rd and again on July 11th (the first ticket was marked completed).
Every time I contact support for an update, they proceed to go through the same basic troubleshooting steps even though I gave them my case number already. Then they go through the "We're sorry for your ...." script and politely tell me that the network team is looking into it and it will be 3 to 5 days.
So, where to I go from here? I've contacted 6 different CS reps because no one previously followed up with me. Who or what is higher up than the network team?
The short term solution today was activate my old Incredible....aarrgh! My frustration level is at it's peak. Do I have any other choices besides wait and cross my fingers?
BSquaredB2 said:
Can someone explain to me the customer service levels at Verizon? I've been dealing with 4G data connection problems since the beginning of June. I decide to finally create a support ticket on July 3rd and again on July 11th (the first ticket was marked completed).
Every time I contact support for an update, they proceed to go through the same basic troubleshooting steps even though I gave them my case number already. Then they go through the "We're sorry for your ...." script and politely tell me that the network team is looking into it and it will be 3 to 5 days.
So, where to I go from here? I've contacted 6 different CS reps because no one previously followed up with me. Who or what is higher up than the network team?
The short term solution today was activate my old Incredible....aarrgh! My frustration level is at it's peak. Do I have any other choices besides wait and cross my fingers?
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Why can't you just use CDMA (3g) only on your Rezound? I have 4g turned off on my Rezound to save battery. Or are you having issues with both 3g and 4g?
kzoodroid said:
Why can't you just use CDMA (3g) only on your Rezound? I have 4g turned off on my Rezound to save battery. Or are you having issues with both 3g and 4g?
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I can use 3g, but that isn't why I bought the Rezound. My specific issue with 4g is that it drops completely and randomly when using various apps that have GPS enabled (Facebook, G+, Foursquare, etc...). Shouldn't 4g drop to 3g or 1x if 4g isn't available? Since I'm waiting for Verizon anyway, I'll change it to see if it helps.
The messed up part is that the exact same thing is happening to my wife's Rezound too. We bought them together a few months ago and for the 1st month everything worked great! Verizon confirmed that we live in a 4g area so that isn't the problem.
it is the software radio on the phone. You probably live in a low signal level area. The phone is constantly trying to decide if it should be in 3g or 4g. You should root and try different radios. Calling CS is about useless in my opinion
Mine does the same exact thing, it's definitely frustrating. It used to switch to 3g just fine, but it doesn't anymore. How is it a software issue if it worked fine before? I didn't change anything, I even did a factory reset.
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My thunderbolt did this, my girlfriends rezound does it, and my rezound does it but not as often or I don't notice. I'm on viperRez s-on and 2.11 boot and I haven't noticed it however when my rezound was stock I noticed it.
I think it's an issue with Verizon. They sent me a new thunderbolt and sim card and I still had the same issue.
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I can use 3g, but that isn't why I bought the Rezound. My specific issue with 4g is that it drops completely and randomly when using various apps that have GPS enabled (Facebook, G+, Foursquare, etc...). Shouldn't 4g drop to 3g or 1x if 4g isn't available? Since I'm waiting for Verizon anyway, I'll change it to see if it helps.
The messed up part is that the exact same thing is happening to my wife's Rezound too. We bought them together a few months ago and for the 1st month everything worked great! Verizon confirmed that we live in a 4g area so that isn't the problem.
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Its supposed to go from 4g to 3g if there is no 4g signal. I have no use for 4g as I'm on wifi 90% of the time so I turned it off. Since both your phones do it I would say its a signal issue from the tower and not a phone issue. Verizon's LTE network has had some issues and all the bugs aren't worked out yet. Personally I would rather use the Rezound in CDMA only mode than the Incredible, its just an all around better phone.
This happens to me too (I'm completely stock) and it's really bothering me now. I went in to Verizon and they have me a new SIM last weekend but that didn't fix it. I know it's the phone cuz I'll be at work, home, wherever i know for a fact i have 4g. Doesn't drop to 3g, just cuts in and out. and it happens randomly (or so I thought ) but GPS activity does likely because I JUST did a hard reset after calling VZW yesterday and had no problems until I opened up Google maps.
I keep holding out for ICS hoping that'll fix it.
Side note: when I asked the rep about a release date, she said she couldn't find anything on the rezound!
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Thanks for all the support and suggestions! For what it's worth, I'm completely stock and have done a factory reset twice. The thing that I haven't tried is to replace the SIM. I know that is a hit-or-miss solution, but at least I'll be able to cross that off my list when the CS rep calls back.....
The only other thing (I think) I can do is unlock/root/load an ICS ROM and hope that it fixes the 4g issue. I'm assuming a different radio is included with the ROM.
Thanks again...
I have a similar issue. My rezound is completely stock and worked fantastic when I first got it. I live in a high signal 4G area, and get 4-5 bars at all times. Since the beginning of June, my 4G just goes off randomly. Sometimes repeatedly to where its annoying and I put my phone back in my pocket. My phone has never switched from 4G to 3G, its just 4G 4-5 bars to nothing with 4-5 bars. I'd say if i'm using my phone, it happens 30+ times or more a day. Doesn't matter where in town I am. I've contacted verizon on several occasions (I know, a dead end road) and they told me there are no service interruptions in my area and they would call me back (of course, they didn't call me back). I consistently get 30-40Mbps on speedtest wherever I am. If i'm in the basement of my home in a certain spot, it drops to maybe 12-15Mbps.
Its been rather frustrating since I can barely use my phone when it acts up like this. Hoping the new OTA fixes the radios - then I'll probably dabble with CM9 (or 10 if its out by then). But until then, i'll just stay frustrated.
To answer you question, ask to speak with tier 2 support. These folk a lot more tech savvy than the average CS Rep.
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To answer you question, ask to speak with tier 2 support. These folk a lot more tech savvy than the average CS Rep.
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Thanks, but I'm currently speaking to tier 2. In the realm of support, I'm not doubting they have skills, but I'm curious as to where my problem goes next. The 5 tier 2 reps have gone through the basics each time I called. The key words are, " I called". I would assume that notes would be made so everyone was on the same page for support.
So they all have told me that they were waiting for the network guys to give them an update. I think that means I got put into a large queue and they will get to me when they get to me.
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Update: This morning my Tier 2 rep said that the network team updated the trouble ticket. They have tested all of the towers in my area and everything looks good (of course). They also have added my ticket to a parent ticket that is being sent to HTC, because this is a known problem with some Rezound phones. Being pessimistic, I really think smoke is being blown up my **** but what am I going to do?! Pointing fingers usually goes nowhere.....
Per my Rep., my options are to wait for an HTC software update or they will replace the phones with another "like new" Rezound. The like new part freaks me out after reading all the messed-up-phones-sent-back posts from our forums, but there might be a chance that a replacement fixes the problem. Should I wait it out or get the replacement?
Press 0 and it will direct you to talk with a person. Learned that trick a while ago and works almost everywhere.
sshaar said:
I have a similar issue. My rezound is completely stock and worked fantastic when I first got it. I live in a high signal 4G area, and get 4-5 bars at all times. Since the beginning of June, my 4G just goes off randomly. Sometimes repeatedly to where its annoying and I put my phone back in my pocket. My phone has never switched from 4G to 3G, its just 4G 4-5 bars to nothing with 4-5 bars. I'd say if i'm using my phone, it happens 30+ times or more a day. Doesn't matter where in town I am. I've contacted verizon on several occasions (I know, a dead end road) and they told me there are no service interruptions in my area and they would call me back (of course, they didn't call me back). I consistently get 30-40Mbps on speedtest wherever I am. If i'm in the basement of my home in a certain spot, it drops to maybe 12-15Mbps.
Its been rather frustrating since I can barely use my phone when it acts up like this. Hoping the new OTA fixes the radios - then I'll probably dabble with CM9 (or 10 if its out by then). But until then, i'll just stay frustrated.
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they should really implement fastdormancy for 4G LTE because on 3G, theres a power state called CELL&URA_pch which doesn't use any data but it is able to keep a connection to the network.
I was also told there will be a software update to fix the 4G dropping issues and I was told that verizon is aware of the problem, and so is HTC. If its the same thing that was on the ICS leak, are the people running ICS leaks or roms based on these leaks having the same reception issues? I've been curious about this but rarely get on to post, i'm guilty of lurking.
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I was also told there will be a software update to fix the 4G dropping issues and I was told that verizon is aware of the problem, and so is HTC. If its the same thing that was on the ICS leak, are the people running ICS leaks or roms based on these leaks having the same reception issues? I've been curious about this but rarely get on to post, i'm guilty of lurking.
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I just flashed a co-worker's phone today with the latest ICS RUU that leaked and his data dropping issues are gone completely, for what it's worth.
PhantomApollyon said:
I just flashed a co-worker's phone today with the latest ICS RUU that leaked and his data dropping issues are gone completely, for what it's worth.
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Thats promising news at least :good:
BSquaredB2 said:
Thanks, but I'm currently speaking to tier 2. In the realm of support, I'm not doubting they have skills, but I'm curious as to where my problem goes next. The 5 tier 2 reps have gone through the basics each time I called. The key words are, " I called". I would assume that notes would be made so everyone was on the same page for support.
So they all have told me that they were waiting for the network guys to give them an update. I think that means I got put into a large queue and they will get to me when they get to me.
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BSquaredB2 said:
Update: This morning my Tier 2 rep said that the network team updated the trouble ticket. They have tested all of the towers in my area and everything looks good (of course). They also have added my ticket to a parent ticket that is being sent to HTC, because this is a known problem with some Rezound phones. Being pessimistic, I really think smoke is being blown up my **** but what am I going to do?! Pointing fingers usually goes nowhere.....
Per my Rep., my options are to wait for an HTC software update or they will replace the phones with another "like new" Rezound. The like new part freaks me out after reading all the messed-up-phones-sent-back posts from our forums, but there might be a chance that a replacement fixes the problem. Should I wait it out or get the replacement?
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Generally speaking this seems to very much be a software issue and unless it's truly a defective device I doubt getting a replacement would fix it. Here's what you do:
1. Flash the latest ICS RUU that leaked for the Rezound, NO you can't go back to the old firmware/software without a lot of work but it doesn't matter if you end up getting it replaced anways
2. Set up everything again and see how it goes
3. If you still have an issue, get the replacement
IF that doesn't fix the issue, your not unlocked, your not S-OFF, so your warranty still stands. It's not like your "NEW" device was doing very well anyways so I wouldn't let a replacement device bother you. I didn't read this whole thread but hopefully I'm not the first person to re-iterate this- "NEW" is just a matter of documentation and the fact that a product is new doesn't mean it's better or will work better than a refurbished device. I personally have had several refurbished devices over the years that worked just fine...much better then the new ones did.

Why all the complaints ? This is a lot to do with user error

I'm stunned at the constant complaints... I believe half of.. everyones issues are due to screwin around and f"n up their phones ,not reading stickies ,,rules , not.knowing...compatibility
The other half is probably defective devices NOT all of us have issues I've had none
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Root went well on this update providing you follow closely to the procedure.
This device is top notch
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My text messages aren't going through and I keep getting an error. I sure hope I am doing something wrong in sending text messages to anyone and everyone on my list.
Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
I really haven't tinkered with much of anything on my phone and I find the most recent OTA to be MUCH MUCH buggier than the previous version. Before the update I never had Sense crash or any other programs crash. Now they happen once or twice a week (sometimes several in a day). Add that to the fact that I am not S-OFF and I have a loathing hatred for this most recent update.
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Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
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I've been with sprint for as long as I can remember and this is the first instance where my text messages have stopped working for more than a few hours. It's the second day and I'll probably go to the sprint store and see what they say about it. It could be my phone. We'll see
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I've been with sprint for as long as I can remember and this is the first instance where my text messages have stopped working for more than a few hours. It's the second day and I'll probably go to the sprint store and see what they say about it. It could be my phone. We'll see
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Sprint is in the middle of a huge overhaul and theres a LOT of strain on it right now
If updating prl/profile doesnt work get your radio checked. If the radio is fine its sprints network
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Sprint is in the middle of a huge overhaul and theres a LOT of strain on it right now
If updating prl/profile doesnt work get your radio checked. If the radio is fine its sprints network
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Thanks for the tips. Is there any way I can check the radio myself with some sort of an app or should I just take it to sprint store?
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Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
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Sorry, but I'm not convinced that my text, roaming and dropped call issues are solely due to the upgrade. You guys can keep screaming that all you want. And I'm not saying that there aren't instances where that's the case. My wife has a shift and isn't experiencing these issues. I've also read about other evo owners with two phones or other sprint phones in their household -- none of which are displaying the same problems.
Again, I'm not saying the network upgrade isn't causing any issues, but it's a bit aggravating to see people post that in every thread containing an issue that can even remotely be attributed to the upgrade like it's gospel.
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If you're complaining about SMS issues, missed calls, dropped calls, ect...
Go get your radio tested. It takes 30 minutes at a sprint store. You don't even have to unroot it. Hell, tell them its rooted so they don't mess with the software.
I may try bringing it in tomorrow.
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I called up sprint customer service and they were able to refresh it and after rebooting, my phone is able to send and receive text. Can't say it was the phone's fault, so so far this phone has served me well:fingers-crossed:
Yep, pretty odd that my network problems started the same day I bought this phone. Op, Your is working great. Good for you but please don't treat the rest of us as retards. This is my 6th android device. Only one of them wasn't on sprint network. That's only phones I didn't include tablets laying around the house. Nook colors and kfs for the kids and wife.
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For those not aware...the EVO LTe is set up out of the box to work on LTE and Enhanced CDMA (for lack of better term/knowledge) Also know as Network Vision, or the upgrades.
In cases where an older phone connects and the EVO LTE does, I have confirmed the EVO LTE is connecting to a network type called ehrpd. This network is not yet active in most cities. The older device confirmed to be connected to CDMA and receiving normal 3g.
This is the reasoning behind changing the network mode to cdma only, as many of us have seen that it forces the phone on to CDMA and not ehrpd.
I hhonestly have no idea what I am doing, but this is what I have found in my hours of testing side by side with older devices. From what I can tell every LTE device Sprint carries has this issue, but the other devices appear to lack the ability to switch.
There are also other issues that can contribute to texts and data.
This theory also works in reverse. If I am in an LTE area and on cdma only data and texts are wonky and I have to switch back.
Moral of the story...handoff could be seriously jacked up. I remember Verizon and ATT having similar issues during buildout. You would think someone had figured it out by now.
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Dudes Sprint is upgrading 38000 towers its common sense that your going to have some connection issues and aside from that people living in high populated areas if one of the towers goes down for the upgrade the other ones are going to have way more traffic hence your problems......... I'm pretty sure that's right? And also if you if you can make calls and not receive calls or text but still have data your on data only o. O
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Dudes Sprint is upgrading 38000 towers its common sense that your going to have some connection issues and aside from that people living in high populated areas if one of the towers goes down for the upgrade the other ones are going to have way more traffic hence your problems
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This
Yawn.
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A lot of the data/sms/call signal issues can be attributed to the current state of network upgrades, though it's obviously impossible to say 100%. In my experience, the network-related things have worked fine from day 1 (July 19th). That said, I have noticed actual system bugs. For example there was a time when I was using Talk (I hardly ever SMS anymore, Talk is way better IMO) and the text in the app became just a jumbled mess of pixels. Took a reboot to fix but it was still weird. And a friend of mine who got his Evo LTE a couple of weeks before me, his phone just started spontaneously overheating all of a sudden yesterday. We suspect a rogue app getting stuck in a loop, but still that's not a good sign; it should have been caught by the OS and at least thrown up a message to kill the offending application. Again, a reboot fixed it but I'm not really keen on that being an actual solution as opposed to a temporary workaround.
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For those not aware...the EVO LTe is set up out of the box to work on LTE and Enhanced CDMA (for lack of better term/knowledge) Also know as Network Vision, or the upgrades.
In cases where an older phone connects and the EVO LTE does, I have confirmed the EVO LTE is connecting to a network type called ehrpd. This network is not yet active in most cities. The older device confirmed to be connected to CDMA and receiving normal 3g.
This is the reasoning behind changing the network mode to cdma only, as many of us have seen that it forces the phone on to CDMA and not ehrpd.
I hhonestly have no idea what I am doing, but this is what I have found in my hours of testing side by side with older devices. From what I can tell every LTE device Sprint carries has this issue, but the other devices appear to lack the ability to switch.
There are also other issues that can contribute to texts and data.
This theory also works in reverse. If I am in an LTE area and on cdma only data and texts are wonky and I have to switch back.
Moral of the story...handoff could be seriously jacked up. I remember Verizon and ATT having similar issues during buildout. You would think someone had figured it out by now.
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This makes the most sense of anything I've ever heard. If sprint would have said cdma2 or something, I wouldn't have had the opinion I did in yesterday's post.
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yamaford said:
This makes the most sense of anything I've ever heard. If sprint would have said cdma2 or something, I wouldn't have had the opinion I did in yesterday's post.
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If you want to run your own tests, I use network signal info, open signal maps and an app called "network" to find all of this.
I forward everything I find up the chain of command at Sprint but not sure where it goes or what comes out of it
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To all those with signal issues

I have noticed a good amount of threads popping up with people talking about signal issues, 3g/4g issues, connection issues or phone issues.
I was wondering if we could find out what the common factor here was and what fixes everyone has been using. I know that some people got new sim cars, problem solved. Some people restored to a full stock image via odin, problem solved. Reflashing the stock radio, problem solved.
So has anyone had any other solutions, issues or any other info regarding signal issues or anything relating to that?
Been through this with the Nexus, S3 and S4
The solution is to buy a Motorola RAZR or iphone.
Things that do not work -
Upgrading to the newest version of Android
Updating the Radio
Changing it to CDMA only
Lifting one leg up, putting one hand on your head and pointing your other hand due north
Attaching a sticker antenna to the back
Using some custom baked firmware
Reading posts from people who claimed they've solved the problem.
Using Bluetooth
Not using Bluetooth
Buying a special case
You can get a femtocell repeater if you are in an office or home where you get little reception but it won't help you on the road or just visiting a friend unless you want to set it up every place you are stationary.
In the end trying to fix the radio design flaw with a firmware update is about as useful as trying to fix a shattered TV screen by adjusting the brightness setting. If you read the radio issues on the Verizon Nexus and the Verizon S3 there are a lot of people claiming they solved it but in the end it still sucks.
I have zero issues with data on my s4 I'm on the east coast running clean rom 1.6.5 solid LTE everywhere..
boe said:
The solution is to buy a Motorola RAZR or iphone.
Things that do not work -
Upgrading to the newest version of Android
Updating the Radio
Changing it to CDMA only
Lifting one leg up, putting one hand on your head and pointing your other hand due north
Attaching a sticker antenna to the back
Using some custom baked firmware
Reading posts from people who claimed they've solved the problem.
Using Bluetooth
Not using Bluetooth
Buying a special case
You can get a femtocell repeater if you are in an office or home where you get little reception but it won't help you on the road or just visiting a friend unless you want to set it up every place you are stationary.
In the end trying to fix the radio design flaw with a firmware update is about as useful as trying to fix a shattered TV screen by adjusting the brightness setting. If you read the radio issues on the Verizon Nexus and the Verizon S3 there are a lot of people claiming they solved it but in the end it still sucks.
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Unfortunately this is very true, every other VZW Non-Samsung phone I've had hasn't exhibited this issue.
Motorola and Apple have had their share of radio/antenna issues as well.
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I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
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I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
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Trying to tie it all together with a common denominator is a logical fallacy. It would be akin to trying to find a common denominator for everyone in the world that has a chronic cough. The causal factor varies from case to case.
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I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
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The common denominator is we are on Verizon and have Samsung phones. If you want to go further, you could do a subset intersect and see we have the S4 on Verizon. It's like saying what is a common denominator for those people who have safety issues with the Chevy Corvair. It is a design flaw that only could be fixed by replacing the phone with a different model. Trust me, I went down this path with the Nexus and the S3 - magical firmware updates were dangled by fanboys saying they would come and fix the issue but the firmware updates came but they never fixed the issue.
If you want better signal, you could buy a different phone or get a femtocell repeater. TRUST me, I would love a magic bullet to fix the issue but there isn't one. On the plus side you'll get a ton of helpful posts from people saying they never have issues or you must be doing something wrong.
I dont know what is up with all ur phones, but my signal is much better than my old Galaxy Nexus/RAZR M. I am getting 2-3 more bars of 4G at work. At home it use to be only 3G, but now im getting at least 2 bars of 4G. I don't even turn on my WiFi anymore at home or work.
bars dont really mean much...
i have had some odd issues where i will be in home depot or grocery store trying to look something up and it will fail; market doesnt work, browser doesnt work. phone calls and texts (over gvoice so data) wont work.
the razM i had before this was solid. my GF still has the razrM and we were at grocery store other day and if you went the their app there was a coupon to add and the s4 was refusing all data again.
i had similar issues with an old HTC Dinc2 and it was then i started using an app "restart connections" to get data back but it doesnt fix the issue on the s4 i have. if i reboot the phone data comes back.
i have also twice now went to use gmaps and it it attempts to look up an address for 3-5 min and i finally restart the phone and go back in and find the address ASAP after reboot.
something funky is going on and i havent taken the time to try and look at syslogs yet...
i am running the stock MDK rom (rooted) on VZW
reception is odd
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I have zero issues with data on my s4 I'm on the east coast running clean rom 1.6.5 solid LTE everywhere..
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I'm in a difficult reception area in the middle of manhattan. Funny thing is that I almost always have 4G - even in my house. At the same time, I never have more than two bars of signal in my house. I have occasionally had trouble making calls (I think the tower I'm reaching is too busy), but once connected, no one has complained and dropped calls are rare.
I don't understand this and don't know whether to complain or not because although there are almost no bars, there is reception that is pretty good. So I've left well enough alone.
This phone gets decent reception for me. Dropping from 4g to 3g is new for me after coming from an htc rezound though. My rez NEVER dropped 4g in my city anywhere. Guess radios is the one thing htc can do right. My s4 drops to 3g in multiple areas sometimes. Hopefully Samsung keeps getting better with their radios and they'll have me as a customer for more years of they do
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bars dont really mean much...
i have had some odd issues where i will be in home depot or grocery store trying to look something up and it will fail; market doesnt work, browser doesnt work. phone calls and texts (over gvoice so data) wont work.
the razM i had before this was solid. my GF still has the razrM and we were at grocery store other day and if you went the their app there was a coupon to add and the s4 was refusing all data again.
i had similar issues with an old HTC Dinc2 and it was then i started using an app "restart connections" to get data back but it doesnt fix the issue on the s4 i have. if i reboot the phone data comes back.
i have also twice now went to use gmaps and it it attempts to look up an address for 3-5 min and i finally restart the phone and go back in and find the address ASAP after reboot.
something funky is going on and i havent taken the time to try and look at syslogs yet...
i am running the stock MDK rom (rooted) on VZW
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This is basically the same issue I have. Only a reboot/data toggle won't fix it. I had two bars(not that it means much, I didn't look at the db) and it kept saying it was communicating with the tower via the green/red up/down indicators, but I couldn't access any data services. I moved my car approximately 500 yards to the south and viola, data again. I don't get why I could make a call, but I couldn't access data.
That being said, it's still better than my Gnex for....well...everything. But I would say worse than my Rezound, Bionic.
i ended up flashing the modem with the ME7 version, while keeping the rest of the ROM on the original MDK. that was about amonth ago and i think ive only had to reboot 1-2 times because of data drop.

[Q] Have good LTE signal and apps wont utilize. any ideas?

Hey everyone, my wife and I just got new M9's on sprint last Monday. Thought everything was going fine but then I noticed that whenever I was on LTE a lot bof my apps wouldn't work. I can watch Netflix and use tweetcaster, but a lot of other apps won't work(facebook,Pandora, and google now I can search but if i try voice recognition it says it can't connect to the server). Everything works fine on 3g and Wi-Fi. I have done speed tests of the LTE and they are always at least 7mbps down and 2 up. Have tried clearing data/cache and uninstall/reinstall of apps and still nothing. But it's not just my phone it's my wife this is happening on also. Any help would be appreciated cause I can't figure it out. Thanks everyone!
Try toggling airplane mode or mobile data on/off.
It sounds like the "data drop" issue some of us are having.
I am having the same problem i called sprint and they couldn't help at all i think is a phone defect
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Hey everyone, my wife and I just got new M9's on sprint last Monday. Thought everything was going fine but then I noticed that whenever I was on LTE a lot bof my apps wouldn't work. I can watch Netflix and use tweetcaster, but a lot of other apps won't work(facebook,Pandora, and google now I can search but if i try voice recognition it says it can't connect to the server). Everything works fine on 3g and Wi-Fi. I have done speed tests of the LTE and they are always at least 7mbps down and 2 up. Have tried clearing data/cache and uninstall/reinstall of apps and still nothing. But it's not just my phone it's my wife this is happening on also. Any help would be appreciated cause I can't figure it out. Thanks everyone!
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Try updating your profile or PRL , that's helped me in the past with data issues
ccs86 said:
Try toggling airplane mode or mobile data on/off.
It sounds like the "data drop" issue some of us are having.
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I also have run into this issue, it happened with my evo LTE until I unlocked/rooted my phone and could install custom ROMs and now with my M9 , which is completely stock with just the OTA I only have one single bar and LTE constantly switches to 3G and I run into data transfer issues even when it says its connected.
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Try updating your profile or PRL , that's helped me in the past with data issues
I also have run into this issue, it happened with my evo LTE until I unlocked/rooted my phone and could install custom ROMs and now with my M9 , which is completely stock with just the OTA I only have one single bar and LTE constantly switches to 3G and I run into data transfer issues even when it says its connected.
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Already tried updating the profile and prl. didnt help. i tried airplane mode and back on and i can now get facebook to load new stuff but no pictures or video will load. still have a better than average connection. im gonna try pandora to see if it works here soon. this is frustrating to have to do this. hopefully a fix can come soon.
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Try updating your profile or PRL , that's helped me in the past with data issues
I also have run into this issue, it happened with my evo LTE until I unlocked/rooted my phone and could install custom ROMs and now with my M9 , which is completely stock with just the OTA I only have one single bar and LTE constantly switches to 3G and I run into data transfer issues even when it says its connected.
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Already tried updating the profile and prl. didnt help. i tried airplane mode and back on and i can now get facebook to load new stuff but no pictures or video will load. still have a better than average connection. im gonna try pandora to see if it works here soon. this is frustrating to have to do this. hopefully a fix can come soon.
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Nevermind still doesn't work after airplane mode toggle I was wrong. Speed tests say I'm getting around 14mbps download speeds. This is super frustrating. I don't understand.works fine on Wi-Fi and pretty sure 3g too. Could it be the apps themselves? Cause it's just some. But they are major apps like Pandora and facebook. Should be ready for this.
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Nevermind still doesn't work after airplane mode toggle I was wrong. Speed tests say I'm getting around 14mbps download speeds. This is super frustrating. I don't understand.works fine on Wi-Fi and pretty sure 3g too. Could it be the apps themselves? Cause it's just some. But they are major apps like Pandora and facebook. Should be ready for this.
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I've had the exact same problem since day 1 with my phone two weeks ago. You probably also have the issue where you are typically only at 1 signal bar when on LTE but full bars when on 3g. I've also noticed it hits certain apps but not others. Usually toggling airplane mode and/or mobile data will fix it for me, but sometimes i have to completely reboot. even after the OTA update last week, the problem persisted. i brought my phone into a sprint store on sunday and they replicated the problem but had no idea the cause, so they swapped the phone out. same problem with the replacement, so i'd imagine we're stuck waiting for a software/radio/firmware update before this is resolved
hsmith1514;60132588 said:
I've had the exact same problem since day 1 with my phone two weeks ago. You probably also have the issue where you are typically only at 1 signal bar when on LTE but full bars when on 3g. I've also noticed it hits certain apps but not others. Usually toggling airplane mode and/or mobile data will fix it for me, but sometimes i have to completely reboot. even after the OTA update last week, the problem persisted. i brought my phone into a sprint store on sunday and they replicated the problem but had no idea the cause, so they swapped the phone out. same problem with the replacement, so i'd imagine we're stuck waiting for a software/radio/firmware update before this is resolved
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Thank you for this. Feels good just to hear someone else describe my problems exactly. Wonder if it s all sprint m9 or just maybe ones people got early cause I got mine the Monday before release. Same on both my wife and my phone. I can't understand why some work and some don't. Now that you say it my LTE does most of the time just say one bar. And 3g is usually full. Hope a fix comes soon. Wish we could get conformation that ots a known issue. Facebook isn't a huge deal ask I can just use the mobile site but Pandora ducks to not have it.
Did yours come with headphones? The sprint site said no when we ordered and I asked customer care on twitter. Both said no headphones but ours both came with them.
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Nevermind still doesn't work after airplane mode toggle I was wrong. Speed tests say I'm getting around 14mbps download speeds. This is super frustrating. I don't understand.works fine on Wi-Fi and pretty sure 3g too. Could it be the apps themselves? Cause it's just some. But they are major apps like Pandora and facebook. Should be ready for this.
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I wonder if it's a DNS issue on LTE.
3G, LTE and WIFI are all pretty separate interfaces and have their own "setup".
What you might try doing is see if you can PING the server by NAME and by IP Address on each of those interfaces.
You may have to dig a bit to figure out what servers the various apps are using.
If it pings by IP but not by NAME it's a DNS issue.
Ever since Lollipop there have been some IPV6 issues that cause DNS problems. But those have been usually on WIFI only.
There are some tools in Google Play to disable IPV6 but it only disables it on WIFI interface.
Like on Lollipop M8, MMS would not work on WIFI for some folks and disabling IPV6 would temporarily fix it.
A really nice tool to debug with is called FING that you can get from Google Play. It has built in PING, Trace Route and a bunch of other goodies.
I used it to find a rogue device on my work Network.
If some apps work and others don't it's very likely a DNS issues. Unless Sprint is now blocking some ports on LTE.
You can also test HOST name and PORT for a service, this takes some serious digging to see if the port is blocked.
There is a tool in FING for that too called TCP Connection Tester. I usually have used TELNET on Desktop PC's to do the same.
If you google that service you can often find the host and port it's using.
Here is an example: Let's say SPOTIFY won't work on LTE
Get the Port and HOST from a search I did that showed this. I searched for SPOTIFY HOST PORT
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/What-firewall-ports-to-open/td-p/194752
adierks3 said:
Thank you for this. Feels good just to hear someone else describe my problems exactly. Wonder if it s all sprint m9 or just maybe ones people got early cause I got mine the Monday before release. Same on both my wife and my phone. I can't understand why some work and some don't. Now that you say it my LTE does most of the time just say one bar. And 3g is usually full. Hope a fix comes soon. Wish we could get conformation that ots a known issue. Facebook isn't a huge deal ask I can just use the mobile site but Pandora ducks to not have it.
Did yours come with headphones? The sprint site said no when we ordered and I asked customer care on twitter. Both said no headphones but ours both came with them.
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Yeah mine came with headphones, I'd imagine all the M9s come with them
I'm so happy this is happening to other people as well and not just me, was going crazy trying to figure what the hell was going on with my phone. Hopefully some update will fix this soon as it's very frustrating when I text everyone with Google voice through hangouts and my app doesn't pull in the messages
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I'm so happy this is happening to other people as well and not just me, was going crazy trying to figure what the hell was going on with my phone. Hopefully some update will fix this soon as it's very frustrating when I text everyone with Google voice through hangouts and my app doesn't pull in the messages
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I'm happy it's not just mine either I mean it sucks but last thing I wanted was a bad radio.
Same issue here, when on LTE can't send snaps (just an example) also push notifications don't seem to come through. Though it might have been due to the rom I was using but doesn't seem to be the case. Even RUU'd it and it didn't help same exact issue. 3G just fine, wi-fi just fine. This is driving me nuts. I guess it sounds like it's a Sprint issue and not hardware which is good but calling Sprint Tech support is usually usless unless you get to the higher ups.
My friend has a pure stock locked non-rooted s-on phone he says he has been having issues as well.
We might wanna get something like this going over at Sprint Community hopefully try and get the issue moved up. I was thinking it might be a DNS issue as well.
Has anyone found a solution?
I have yet to find or see a solution. Sprint or HTC hasn't said anything about it officially. Really sucks cause a bunch of my stuff just doesn't work right over LTE including push notifications won't come through. I have not enjoyed this phone thus far.
I'd advise you all to return your phone that's what I did with mine
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I've swapped for another M9, doing the same thing. I'm on the phone with Sprint now, they have escalated to a second tech. That tech claims they are not aware of any issues on the M9, but did say they heard of one S6 having such issues. The tech advised to swap it yet again.
If enough people return them they might actually look at the problem. I remember when the evo4G had an issue similar to this, you couldn't stream music Sprint's proxy would mess it up. Took them a while to release a fix. Really this isn't an acceptable problem, I'm mean half the apps are worthless cause they won't work over LTE. I'm past my return period and I'm unlocked and this appears not to be a hardware problem. I just wish they would confirm something that they are looking into it. I hate calling Sprint for tech support, it will be the usual non-sense of resetting the phone and doing data profile updates. Then they bump it up and tell you they will call you back when half the time they never do anyway and even if they do it's usually not with a fix. I remember I had a problem getting Direct Connect provisioned on the M8 when it came out. Regular CSR couldn't add the code correctly, they did end up fixing it eventually but no thanks to the techs I worked with nor did they really follow with me more than once. An issue like this needs to make it to the correct people which appears that has not happened yet.
I agree. I am chatting with HTC Support now.
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I agree. I am chatting with HTC Support now.
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Let me know what they say, I know Sprint has yet to acknowledge the issue. All this phone swapping business for probably no reason is gonna cost them a lot. I guess it builds a nice refurb stash.
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Let me know what they say, I know Sprint has yet to acknowledge the issue. All this phone swapping business for probably no reason is gonna cost them a lot. I guess it builds a nice refurb stash.
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HTC Chat is getting me no where. I even sent them these links:
https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/204027
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/help/lte-signal-apps-wont-utilize-ideas-t3080920
I called, they supposedly create da ticket under my account to escalate. I'll have to see what happens with that.

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