I was planning on getting the Samsung TecTile tags, but then I found several other websites that sell NFC tags that look cooler (Android logo) and are better price. My questions are...
1) So long as these other tags are Read/Write would I be able to use them with Samsung's TecTile App just the same as with their own branded TecTile NFC tags?
2) Are there other Apps besides Samsungs TecTile App that work the same/better than Samsung's and allow for multiple commands by the same NFC tag?
The NFC thing seems like it could be cool and useful for a few things (in the car dock, in the bedside charger dock), but it's all so new that info and explanation seems hard to find.
1.Yes
2.Not so sure about that, but Ill stick with the samsung app.
3.Post some links to the tags you got.
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Nfc task launcher in the play store.... cost 2 bucks but it's really customizable and works with tasker
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the tags I'm planning on getting are from www.tagsfordroid.com
http://www.tagstand.com/
thats where i order from
Does anyone have one of these products?
What they're supposed to do is receive DAB, DAB+ and FM, using a bluetooth connected receiver that your headphones plugin to, and you use the app DAB GO!
The product is here, with quite a hefty price tag:
http://www.lingodab.co.uk/product_iVy.php (the Android one is the yellow one)
If you have one, are they good? £70 with no reviews isn't overly tempting. The only suitable review is with the actual app page, where someone with a Galaxy Nexus says it works fine, but the app force closes a bit
Thanks!
No-one? I guess I'll be the first to buy one then
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No-one? I guess I'll be the first to buy one then
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Hi Did you get the Lingo DAB iVy, if so how is it
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Hi Did you get the Lingo DAB iVy, if so how is it
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Haven't got it yet, waiting to get funds to do so. When I get it, they'll be a full review on the XDA RC blog. Also, if you get it, PM me and I'll send you my themed version of the app with it themed to look like the "holo" UI in ICS/JB
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I received one today so this is only a preliminary review.
Looks-wise: The casing seems a little cheap and bulky.
Functionality: The app is ok but it force closes every now and then. They can't spell 'Tuning' properly ('Tunning'). The device also has a built in mic so you can use it to answer calls though it's a bit bulky to wear on the front of your shirt. Normal music also streams through the device.
I posted this in the Nexus 4 forum as well, but figured just cause you have one doesn't mean you have the other and it's important info for Nexus 10 owners too. If this violates a policy, please forgive me and delete.
I'm the owner of AndyTags.com and my sole business is selling NFC Tags so you can imagine how thrilled I was when a customer contacted me shortly after the Nexus 4 came out to let me know his tags didn't work with his phone. To make things even more fun, a few days later another customer contacted me to say he had just gotten the Nexus 4 and was worried that his tags wouldn't work, but they did. So I began a lot of research, and along with a fellow Android fan who owns a Nexus 4 conducted extensive testing to get the final word on compatibility. There's a lot of confusing info out there so I thought I'd share these facts with you guys to make it simple so you could buy the correct NFC Tags for your new groovy Nexus 4.
The Nexus 4 & 10 are NOT compatible with Mifare Classic tags because Mifare Classic tags do NOT adhere to the NFC Forum's Standards. They can not write to the tags nor can they read information that someone else has written to the tags. However, they can detect the UID Code (kinda like a UPC code) of a tag which is unique to every tag. So, if you use an app like NFC ReTag or NFC Task Launcher which has the ability to just detect a tag and read it's UID code, and then launch settings/profiles/etc then you can still use Mifare Classic tags with the Nexus 4 & 10. This is why some people keep saying they are compatible. Just remember, technically they are NOT compatible - the phone can just read the UID code off of the tag.
What kind of tags DO work with the Nexus 4 & 10? Any tags that do adhere to the NFC Forum's standards. The most popular of which is the NTAG203. Unlike the 1K Mifare Classic which has 700 bytes of usable memory and is fairly inexpensive, the NTAG203 tags have about 140 bytes of usable memory and are slightly more expensive in general. However, 140 bytes is plenty of memory for most settings/tasks launching NFC Apps. Many apps, such as NFC Smart Q, allow you to create tasks and see how much memory is needed even without having tags so you can do that before ordering tags to make sure it's enough. The only things that it might not be enough for are vCards or if for some reason you want to program a really long text string to a tag (like more than 130 characters); but since most of us want to use tags to automate things, 140 bytes is enough for that.
What problems might you encounter using Mifare Classic tags to trigger events using the tag's UID? If you only use one app that detects a "blank" tag (Mifare Classic's are seen as blank by the Nexus 4/10) and read's its UID code and triggers a set of rules/settings/tasks based on that then you shouldn't have any problems at all! However, if you have more than one app that detects blank tags, then anytime you tap a Mifare Classic tag, you'll get a pop-up box asking you which app you want to use to execute the action which defeats the purpose of automation.
What is the deal anyway? Why don't the Mifare Classic tags work with the Nexus 4/10 like they do with all other Android phones? Basically, NXP is one of the leading manufacturers of NFC products. They not only manufactured the NFC hardware built into pretty much every Android phone out there up to this point, but also manufactured most of the popular NFC Tags in use. At some point they designed the Mifare Classic NFC Chips and designed them specifically to be compatible with their NXP hardware, but did not design them according to the NFC Forum standards which meant they wouldn't necessarily be compatible with all NFC hardware by other companies. Since pretty much all Android phones used the NXP NFC hardware, this wasn't really an issue and still isn't for most people. However, either Google, LG, Samsung or all three decided to use another company's (Broadcom) hardware in the Nexus 4/10. While any NFC Tags made by any company that adhere to the NFC Forum's protocols will work fine, because the Mifare Classic does not meet those criteria it is not compatible with the Nexus 4/10.
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I may be way off here, but this really really sounds like a software driver or firmware update could take care of this issue... Can't believe if it's the same technology speaking the same language that this isn't possible down the road... Come on hack community, this one has your name all over it...
Thanks to everyone on XDA, you guys teach me so much and I am infinitely grateful...
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I didn't know any of this, thanks for explaining man, this will be really useful when I decide to get some tags.
If there is one thing I haven't seen in the forums...or any documentation online is what kind of tags and maximum size t have e S4 is compatible with. I've read something like NDG tags are compatible but are limited to 144bits. Does anyone know which brand...size to buy? Im not interested in Samsungs 5 tags for $15....way to expensive if you ask me. Ive seen 10 for 15 which is worth it. Thanks ahead of time.
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If there is one thing I haven't seen in the forums...or any documentation online is what kind of tags and maximum size t have e S4 is compatible with. I've read something like NDG tags are compatible but are limited to 144bits. Does anyone know which brand...size to buy? Im not interested in Samsungs 5 tags for $15....way to expensive if you ask me. Ive seen 10 for 15 which is worth it. Thanks ahead of time.
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NFC Forum Type 4 tags such as DESFire have the most storage. However they are hard to find and expensive. I think Samsung's new Tectiles are going to be DESFire but as you mentioned they are charging a premium for them.
In regards to size, it really depends on what you intend to use them for. Usually people find the 144 (137 actual) bytes on the NTAG203 are enough. Plus at less than a buck each, the NTAG203 is often an attractive choice for anyone who wants to give NFC a try first without breaking the bank.
Basic things...like turn drive mode on in car...turn wifi on and off...maybe a few other things...not much. How many commands does the one you mentioned hold?
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Basic things...like turn drive mode on in car...turn wifi on and off...maybe a few other things...not much. How many commands does the one you mentioned hold?
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Depends on the command, I've posted about this before:
"In my opinion, for everyday use 144 bytes (NTAG203, type 2 tag) is more than enough. I've attached a screenshot where I launched a URL, toggled WiFi, adjusted the brightness and set an alarm, it used up 111 bytes on the NFC Tag."
Link to the post with the screenshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41023342#post41023342
As said before, for most things NTAG203 Tags have enough memory. They'll work great with apps like NFC Smart Q and other task triggering apps and be able to handle your task triggering just fine. If you need larger memory tags for things like creating a Vcard with all your contact info on it then the Topaz 512 tags are great. They have about 450 bytes of data on them which is plenty for a full company contact vcard.
I would not recommend using Samsungs Tectile App with either of these tags. Their app uses WAY more memory to accomplish even a small task/trigger than any other NFC app. Other NFC Apps on Google Play are much better and would mostly only need the NTAG203 memory.
Other than that, any NFC Tag that is Type 1 or Type 2 will work with the S4, but the two above are the most affordable right now.
Do NOT use Mifare Classic Tags - they have lots of memory and work great with most phones, but are NOT compatible with the S4.
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
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D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
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I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
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in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
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in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
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If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
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I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
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I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
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All of that information is available on-line/videos/articles/pictures/OPPO'S WEBSITE.
Again,you seem sold on the phone,by all means,it's your money.....
pour:elle said:
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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other reviews please ?
I'll add this & I'm done:
At minimum, you're dealing with someone who sells counterfeit/knockoff phones.
But, if you're convinced this is a prototype , it's likely been stolen,no way in Hell Oppo would approve..... discussion of buying such a phone in the forums is certainly frowned upon by the Admin/Staff here @ XDA......
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Accept the phone only if the seller will give it to you for nothing along with further compensating you in the form of hard cash; for wasting your time. Seriously, purchase only if you feel you must prove a sucker is born every minute.
What's wrong with this guy
Use logical reasoning and common sense my friend
hello guys, do not get upset, it's not my fault if I was lucky to find a piece of the flagship for almost nothing, the seller gave me the monster yesterday against a payment equivalent to $ 45, so I had the time to explore it and the results will surprise you even more than the price that it cost me I leave you with the pictures !
since this is the fifteenth answer of the thread, I pay tribute to VC15