[Q] NFC/Tectile Tags - Are they universal? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

I was planning on getting the Samsung TecTile tags, but then I found several other websites that sell NFC tags that look cooler (Android logo) and are better price. My questions are...
1) So long as these other tags are Read/Write would I be able to use them with Samsung's TecTile App just the same as with their own branded TecTile NFC tags?
2) Are there other Apps besides Samsungs TecTile App that work the same/better than Samsung's and allow for multiple commands by the same NFC tag?
The NFC thing seems like it could be cool and useful for a few things (in the car dock, in the bedside charger dock), but it's all so new that info and explanation seems hard to find.

1.Yes
2.Not so sure about that, but Ill stick with the samsung app.
3.Post some links to the tags you got.
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Nfc task launcher in the play store.... cost 2 bucks but it's really customizable and works with tasker
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the tags I'm planning on getting are from www.tagsfordroid.com

http://www.tagstand.com/
thats where i order from

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Make your own Xperia Smart Tags :-)

If you happen to have un-used NFC tags laying around in a drawer, here is how to use them with the Xperia Smart Tag app from Sony.
Use an app which is capable of writing custom URIs to NFC tags (NFC Task Launcher is able to do that ) and write the following URIs to your NFC tag:
For the red tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/2/smarttags1
For the blue tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/1/smarttags1
For the white tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/4/smarttags1
For the black tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/3/smarttags1
Have fun
Great I will certainly keep this marked, I didn't know you had to write the tags to be a colored sony tag :/
Do you happen to know what sort of tags we can use?
I have been browsing for NFC tags for my Xperia S when it arrives, and i found quite a few different kinds available online...I don't want to go and order a bunch (I plan on using a lot of tags) and not be able to write them and such. I get the 2 free tags with the phone, but thats just not enough for me
So yea, know any good sites where I can order them? (preferably cheap)
thanks!
shmoejoe said:
Great I will certainly keep this marked, I didn't know you had to write the tags to be a colored sony tag :/
Do you happen to know what sort of tags we can use?
I have been browsing for NFC tags for my Xperia S when it arrives, and i found quite a few different kinds available online...I don't want to go and order a bunch (I plan on using a lot of tags) and not be able to write them and such. I get the 2 free tags with the phone, but thats just not enough for me
So yea, know any good sites where I can order them? (preferably cheap)
thanks!
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Where are you located?
subscribe this, got alot of nfc sticker...
indianl said:
If you happen to have un-used NFC tags laying around in a drawer, here is how to use them with the Xperia Smart Tag app from Sony.
Use an app which is capable of writing custom URIs to NFC tags (NFC Task Launcher is able to do that ) and write the following URIs to your NFC tag:
For the red tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/2/smarttags1
For the blue tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/1/smarttags1
For the white tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/4/smarttags1
For the black tag: semc://liveware/A1/1/NT1/3/smarttags1
Have fun
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thanks mate...
krohnjw said:
Where are you located?
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I live in The Netherlands, but I don't mind shipping them a long distance if they are decently priced and will actually be able to be read/written when they arrive
shmoejoe said:
I live in The Netherlands, but I don't mind shipping them a long distance if they are decently priced and will actually be able to be read/written when they arrive
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Here's a shop out of Denmark. IDK what shipping rates run in Europe. I am not aware of any in Holland.
http://nfczonen.dk/
I've aggregated quite a few shops (and need to update the list) here http://www.jwksoftware.com/nfc-tags
Tags
shmoejoe said:
I live in The Netherlands, but I don't mind shipping them a long distance if they are decently priced and will actually be able to be read/written when they arrive
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We ship to The Netherlands like Krohnjw said.
Tags are pre-formatted and ready to be read/written. Shipping to The Netherlands is approx. 22€ and shipping time 2-3 days.
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Lasse Laursen
[email protected]
www.NFCzone.net
Thanks for the links
Now I'm all set for when my phone actually arrives, and will probably order my tags soon after
http://www.nfcplaza.com/pages/page.aspx?c=productlijst&gid=174 edit: minimal order count of 200 -.-
This is also a seller for these tags, but does anyone know what kind we can use?
Another question:
Is it possible to use existing tags, like cards for public transport (OV-Chipkaart), to function as tag to direct our beloved Xperia S to do tasks?
I scanned one and it does recognize it but says it's in use.
Is there also a free app to write the tags? I don't have Credit Card so I can't do the billing, can't find an alternative either.
Are these the correct one>?
NFC tags on Amazon.com
Nimche said:
Are these the correct one>?
NFC tags on Amazon.com
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Those will work but they are small. Ultralights have only a 48 byte capacity. This includes the NDEF header (Which contains the external content type or MIME type) which can easily run 20-30 bytes.
Is it possible to use more than 4 tags with sony's app?
Well,
It's a bit bizarre...but you can only apparently use 4 Sony tags, and they can't be the same color :/
I have a thread in the general section about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542747
I did not have any NFC tags when i unboxed my Xperia S. Does anyone know if you can buy them seperately, and if so where?
Thanks.
dibdin said:
I did not have any NFC tags when i unboxed my Xperia S. Does anyone know if you can buy them seperately, and if so where?
Thanks.
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You can change country upper right corner
http://www.expansys.nl/sony-ericsson-nfc-smarttags-229472/
http://www.expansys.com/sony-ericsson-nfc-smarttags-229472/
decided to keep the tags. thanks!
Picked up some "RFID 1k mifare keyfob S50 tag ISO14443A", any idea why these wouldn't work with the Xperia S? The phone doesn't even recognise there is a tag there, let alone write to it. I know that the NFC function of the phone is working as I can test by tapping my Oyster card. Are these not compatiable with the S?
Abandoned-Trolley said:
Picked up some "RFID 1k mifare keyfob S50 tag ISO14443A", any idea why these wouldn't work with the Xperia S? The phone doesn't even recognise there is a tag there, let alone write to it. I know that the NFC function of the phone is working as I can test by tapping my Oyster card. Are these not compatiable with the S?
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What's the underlying IC, Mifare Classic 1K? What frequency do they operate at?
krohnjw said:
What's the underlying IC, Mifare Classic 1K? What frequency do they operate at?
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Description says, RFID contactless 3.56mhz 1k mifare keyfobs. Npx Philips chip.
Assuming it means 13.56mhz
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Opinions of the HTC Flyer

Hello everyone. So currently I am considering getting the HTC Flyer. I can get one for around $160 USD (used but in good condition). Is it worth it? I definitely cannot afford new tablets but a used one with decent specs would do. I am about to enter college in the fall and was wondering if this tablet would be useful for this purpose, specifically because of the pen. Does the pen seem more like a gimmick or is it really useful (like with school and professional related tasks). Also, if I do get the HTC Flyer, can you all share what are great apps to make this device extra handy (apps which utilize the pen, notes and documents).
Recommended accessories would also be nice! Affordable ones that is. The pen is already sooooo expensive (IMHO) and I WANT it!!!
Is it advisable to update to HC or leave it on Android 2.3? I like the new pen features of HC but it seems HC is buggy (from what I read on this forum) and that isn't favorable when I may be taking notes in college with this thing.
I just want to get a device that would help me all round. Some entertainment here but useful in the classroom. I am on a tight budget (still have to get a laptop so please consider that)
I really appreciate everyone's time. I look forward to hearing from you all.
I purchased the flyer specifically for the pen usage and am very satisfied with it. I upgraded to honeycomb and if your main use is for the pen I suggest that you do too. I like the ability to annotate books in either epub or PDF. I like the feature in the stock notes app where you can record and your written notes are time stamped and synced with the recording and ultimately with evernote. however I don't particularly like how writing the notes are implemented (it is constantly wasting time autosaving). if you are just taking notes I would suggest using apps such as quill or papyrus (I myself prefer papyrus - it is very smooth and uses both buttons on the pen). what else I have been doing is using the voice recording app along with apps such as papyrus then exporting them together into the notes app which then seamlessly syncs with evernote (yes I know it seems tedious but I only do this if i really need the lecture recorded). the only thing that I really desire is a fully functional handwriting recognition app. I downloaded a couple of apps (thanks to Gumby) such as notes mobile. they work fairly well however my handwriting is so poor it isn't worth it. my family does much better with it so perhaps you can too.
so all in all if the flyer is in good shape for $160 I would highly recommend it. if i think of anything else to say I will let you know.
The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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ericvv said:
The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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just wondering which app do you use to take notes? I can see the difficulty if you are using the stock notes app (due to the constant autosaving) but apps such as papyrus are very smooth and I find note taking to be very easy and productive.
So far the stock tool and MS notes, I'll try papyrus and let you know
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@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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And the developer is legend, I mailed him a couple of times with usability issues and within 3 or 4 days the updated app was on the marketplace. There is a free version to try, give it a spin.
anthonbob said:
@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
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I believe that the standard HTC reader app should let you annotate ebooks. I actually sideloaded an epub on my Flyer and noted that I was able to highlight and take notes on. However, it should be noted that I'm running LeeDroid for Honeycomb, so I have no idea how everything works when the unit is stock.
I initially purchased the Flyer because it was cheap and slightly more portable than my HP Touchpad (running CM9) for travel purposes (i occasionally need to run Citrix to access my company's desktop). I also preferred it over the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet due to the existence of the cameras (I skype with my grandmother in Asia). Plus, the battery life on this thing is phenomenal. The fact that I got it for about $170 just made it all the sweeter. The only downside thus far, in my opinion, is the lack of ICS. I know a lot of people have commented that it is a single core machine. Since I don't really play any games on the tablet, this is a non-issue for me.
I thought that the pen was a total gimmick and unnecessary. For most of my uses, that is true. However, I figured out that my office can send me PDF documents, which I can sign using the pen, save the signed PDF, and send it back to my office. This does not happen that often, but it's a pretty neat feature to have.
Thanks everyone for the input. I made the plunge! I know this is off topic but...the Flyer I bought doesn't include a USB cable, only the charger. Would the standard USB cable work for this for PC connection? I really do hope so. Accessories for this thing already aren't cheap!
Yes normal usb cable is fine, for accessories look on eBay is not bad eve of for genuine HTC parts.
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That's where I normally buy my accessories. I looked for the OEM cable which is a bit pricey IMHO. I will use my old USB cable! IS it slower or anything to transfer data with this cable though?
No I didn't isn't, the port is only different from mechanical point of view to prevent that you put other devices on the flyer OEM charger and damage them.... The amount of amps is just dangerous for over devices..
For example when my wife uses her ipad charger to charge her iphone the phone gets really hot and probably would be damaged if kept on to long.
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OUYA > Nexus Q?

So with the recent intro of the OUYA, I'm wondering what would prevent it from getting hacked, running CM9, and essentially serving as a Nexus Q replacement with better specs for a cheaper price?
Maybe its lack of Android Beam, although if I understand Beam correctly, it uses Bluetooth so maybe a workaround could be created?
Thanks for any info, y'all.
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Dolfan058 said:
So with the recent intro of the OUYA, I'm wondering what would prevent it from getting hacked, running CM9, and essentially serving as a Nexus Q replacement with better specs for a cheaper price?
Maybe its lack of Android Beam, although if I understand Beam correctly, it uses Bluetooth so maybe a workaround could be created?
Thanks for any info, y'all.
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The OUYA looks great on paper but until they actually go into production I wouldn't consider it an alternative.
If a Billion Dollar Company like Google can't create a media streaming device for 99$ why should some nonames on kickstarter be able to create it, together with controller and software?
OUYA is a nice idea, but that's it. It most likely will never be shipped.
Here is a good article on that subject: http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming...a-used-kickstarter-to-build-buzz-not-funding/
greyphil said:
If a Billion Dollar Company like Google can't create a media streaming device for 99$ why should some nonames on kickstarter be able to create it, together with controller and software?
OUYA is a nice idea, but that's it. It most likely will never be shipped.
Here is a good article on that subject: http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming...a-used-kickstarter-to-build-buzz-not-funding/
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I don't know if OUYA will outsource or not, but I know that for the Nexus Q, Google decided to keep production in the USA, which explains the high price tag.

Final Word on Nexus 10 and NFC Tags Compatibility

I posted this in the Nexus 4 forum as well, but figured just cause you have one doesn't mean you have the other and it's important info for Nexus 10 owners too. If this violates a policy, please forgive me and delete.
I'm the owner of AndyTags.com and my sole business is selling NFC Tags so you can imagine how thrilled I was when a customer contacted me shortly after the Nexus 4 came out to let me know his tags didn't work with his phone. To make things even more fun, a few days later another customer contacted me to say he had just gotten the Nexus 4 and was worried that his tags wouldn't work, but they did. So I began a lot of research, and along with a fellow Android fan who owns a Nexus 4 conducted extensive testing to get the final word on compatibility. There's a lot of confusing info out there so I thought I'd share these facts with you guys to make it simple so you could buy the correct NFC Tags for your new groovy Nexus 4.
The Nexus 4 & 10 are NOT compatible with Mifare Classic tags because Mifare Classic tags do NOT adhere to the NFC Forum's Standards. They can not write to the tags nor can they read information that someone else has written to the tags. However, they can detect the UID Code (kinda like a UPC code) of a tag which is unique to every tag. So, if you use an app like NFC ReTag or NFC Task Launcher which has the ability to just detect a tag and read it's UID code, and then launch settings/profiles/etc then you can still use Mifare Classic tags with the Nexus 4 & 10. This is why some people keep saying they are compatible. Just remember, technically they are NOT compatible - the phone can just read the UID code off of the tag.
What kind of tags DO work with the Nexus 4 & 10? Any tags that do adhere to the NFC Forum's standards. The most popular of which is the NTAG203. Unlike the 1K Mifare Classic which has 700 bytes of usable memory and is fairly inexpensive, the NTAG203 tags have about 140 bytes of usable memory and are slightly more expensive in general. However, 140 bytes is plenty of memory for most settings/tasks launching NFC Apps. Many apps, such as NFC Smart Q, allow you to create tasks and see how much memory is needed even without having tags so you can do that before ordering tags to make sure it's enough. The only things that it might not be enough for are vCards or if for some reason you want to program a really long text string to a tag (like more than 130 characters); but since most of us want to use tags to automate things, 140 bytes is enough for that.
What problems might you encounter using Mifare Classic tags to trigger events using the tag's UID? If you only use one app that detects a "blank" tag (Mifare Classic's are seen as blank by the Nexus 4/10) and read's its UID code and triggers a set of rules/settings/tasks based on that then you shouldn't have any problems at all! However, if you have more than one app that detects blank tags, then anytime you tap a Mifare Classic tag, you'll get a pop-up box asking you which app you want to use to execute the action which defeats the purpose of automation.
What is the deal anyway? Why don't the Mifare Classic tags work with the Nexus 4/10 like they do with all other Android phones? Basically, NXP is one of the leading manufacturers of NFC products. They not only manufactured the NFC hardware built into pretty much every Android phone out there up to this point, but also manufactured most of the popular NFC Tags in use. At some point they designed the Mifare Classic NFC Chips and designed them specifically to be compatible with their NXP hardware, but did not design them according to the NFC Forum standards which meant they wouldn't necessarily be compatible with all NFC hardware by other companies. Since pretty much all Android phones used the NXP NFC hardware, this wasn't really an issue and still isn't for most people. However, either Google, LG, Samsung or all three decided to use another company's (Broadcom) hardware in the Nexus 4/10. While any NFC Tags made by any company that adhere to the NFC Forum's protocols will work fine, because the Mifare Classic does not meet those criteria it is not compatible with the Nexus 4/10.
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I may be way off here, but this really really sounds like a software driver or firmware update could take care of this issue... Can't believe if it's the same technology speaking the same language that this isn't possible down the road... Come on hack community, this one has your name all over it...
Thanks to everyone on XDA, you guys teach me so much and I am infinitely grateful...
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I didn't know any of this, thanks for explaining man, this will be really useful when I decide to get some tags.

Best NFC tags with most writeable memory?

If there is one thing I haven't seen in the forums...or any documentation online is what kind of tags and maximum size t have e S4 is compatible with. I've read something like NDG tags are compatible but are limited to 144bits. Does anyone know which brand...size to buy? Im not interested in Samsungs 5 tags for $15....way to expensive if you ask me. Ive seen 10 for 15 which is worth it. Thanks ahead of time.
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If there is one thing I haven't seen in the forums...or any documentation online is what kind of tags and maximum size t have e S4 is compatible with. I've read something like NDG tags are compatible but are limited to 144bits. Does anyone know which brand...size to buy? Im not interested in Samsungs 5 tags for $15....way to expensive if you ask me. Ive seen 10 for 15 which is worth it. Thanks ahead of time.
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NFC Forum Type 4 tags such as DESFire have the most storage. However they are hard to find and expensive. I think Samsung's new Tectiles are going to be DESFire but as you mentioned they are charging a premium for them.
In regards to size, it really depends on what you intend to use them for. Usually people find the 144 (137 actual) bytes on the NTAG203 are enough. Plus at less than a buck each, the NTAG203 is often an attractive choice for anyone who wants to give NFC a try first without breaking the bank.
Basic things...like turn drive mode on in car...turn wifi on and off...maybe a few other things...not much. How many commands does the one you mentioned hold?
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Basic things...like turn drive mode on in car...turn wifi on and off...maybe a few other things...not much. How many commands does the one you mentioned hold?
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Depends on the command, I've posted about this before:
"In my opinion, for everyday use 144 bytes (NTAG203, type 2 tag) is more than enough. I've attached a screenshot where I launched a URL, toggled WiFi, adjusted the brightness and set an alarm, it used up 111 bytes on the NFC Tag."
Link to the post with the screenshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41023342#post41023342
As said before, for most things NTAG203 Tags have enough memory. They'll work great with apps like NFC Smart Q and other task triggering apps and be able to handle your task triggering just fine. If you need larger memory tags for things like creating a Vcard with all your contact info on it then the Topaz 512 tags are great. They have about 450 bytes of data on them which is plenty for a full company contact vcard.
I would not recommend using Samsungs Tectile App with either of these tags. Their app uses WAY more memory to accomplish even a small task/trigger than any other NFC app. Other NFC Apps on Google Play are much better and would mostly only need the NTAG203 memory.
Other than that, any NFC Tag that is Type 1 or Type 2 will work with the S4, but the two above are the most affordable right now.
Do NOT use Mifare Classic Tags - they have lots of memory and work great with most phones, but are NOT compatible with the S4.

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