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Now that ICS has been released i have a few questions for current Mediapad owners that hopefully will help me decide if want to get one
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
clubtech said:
Now that ICS has been released i have a few questions for current Mediapad owners that hopefully will help me decide if want to get one
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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1) yes.
2) no. At least it isn't exposed in the Huawei native phone app.
3) still the same, at least compared to the last beta build. Not really a problem though. But the jitter is more pronounced in high resolution setting (basically it will set the dpi to low, thus would look like 10" tablet scaled to 7"... Everything is smaller).
4) never encountered any problem. You can also use other browser like Dolphin and it would also be accelerated (basically Dolphin runs very smooth in ICS vs laggish in Galaxy Note).
5) looks low resolution (unless for portrait apps). So basically the same as previous build. I haven't use HC, so I don't know how much better it supposed to be, but compared to Galaxy Note, the note have better image quality but everything run more sluggish when using HDMI compared to mediapad which run very smooth but at lower resolution (and probably lower color depth also?).
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
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1. Never mind the benchmarks, everything I've thrown at it runs smoothly (the likes of GTA III, DeadSpace, Shadowgun, Six Guns, and so on).
2. The client is not included.
3. I'm using hi-res mode and don't have any problems or annoyances.
4. I'm using Opera and it works great. Stock one is not causing any trouble either.
5. Not tested yet. Sorry.
Thanks guys!
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
I also read on some forum that there are issued with Skype video on the latest release. Con someone confirm?
I will download the system files and see how to enable the native SIP client. It is normally a setting in the framework-Res.apk file.
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clubtech said:
Thanks guys!
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
I also read on some forum that there are issued with Skype video on the latest release. Con someone confirm?
I will download the system files and see how to enable the native SIP client. It is normally a setting in the framework-Res.apk file.
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As long as you have steady hand/finger while tapping and light touch then it shouldn't be a problem. The biggest annoyance is when you play something that need steady aim like angry birds and shooting games (contract killer or other games that you basically need to hold your finger at the screen steadily) because it will be jittery. It isn't that you can't play it, but it definitely add an extra challenge to the game. Skype issue is mostly on the skype itself. I haven't tested it yet (on the official build), but I read in skype forum that some other ICS devices also have this green video problem.
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
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Not at all. However, everything is about half (two thirds maybe) the size when in hi-res, so if you have (very) large hands it might be a problem. Like rurou said "like 10" tablet scaled to 7""...
I received my official Allshare cast dongle today and although it is working I can't seem to get videos that I play to appear on BOTH screens at the same time. On various youtube reviews/demos, I have seen people playing videos with it appearing on the TV and the GS3 screen simulaneously. When I play a video it only appears on the TV and on the GS3 screen I get either a black background (e.g. youtube player) or a black background with the allshare icon logo on it and the player controls (standard video player).
What do I need to do to get the video to appear on both screens at the same time?
Cheers,
Richard.
The only way is to install another video player because if you saw a video showing doing both then they been misleading you.
Im sure its possible. The YouTube videos i have seen are not just ones recorded at the official Galaxy S3 launch demo booths but also from a fair number of unofficial user demos using their home TV's. I doubt they are all deliberately faked.
Also the videos all use the standard built in Galaxy S3 video player too.
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I've got an Allshare Cast myself and it has no settings so Samsung must have fiddled it up to have both screens working because obviously it looks better in a booth with both displays running.
And I think Samsung turn the display off when watching videos because obviously you not gonna be watching both and it saves a load of power, so guess you just have to wait for someone to create a mod to get that done.
The Allshare cast does NOT mirror when playing video.
What worries me is when using the video player, it permanently leaves the Allshare logo on the screen. It is very very dim, but surely that could still result in screen burn after many hours of video watching this way!
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The Allshare cast does NOT mirror when playing video.
What worries me is when using the video player, it permanently leaves the Allshare logo on the screen. It is very very dim, but surely that could still result in screen burn after many hours of video watching this way!
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What are games like, any lag, do any work?
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What are games like, any lag, do any work?
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There is some lag, yes. It doesn't make games unplayable, but it could put you at a disadvantage for multiplayer. Some games which are currently free on the Samsung app store are free and have optimisations for this system. Modern Combat 3 maintains resolution but suffers framerate drops sometimes in dual screen mode. Asphalt 7 maintains framerate but lowers resolution when the screen gets busy. The TV displays the main game, and the phone has a map of the course which is quite cool.
There is a bit of luck here, as it depends on the quality of WiFi signal in your home and interference can affect how well this system works. Certainly it has its uses though and I suspect there will be firmware improvements for it.
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There is some lag, yes. It doesn't make games unplayable, but it could put you at a disadvantage for multiplayer. Some games which are currently free on the Samsung app store are free and have optimisations for this system. Modern Combat 3 maintains resolution but suffers framerate drops sometimes in dual screen mode. Asphalt 7 maintains framerate but lowers resolution when the screen gets busy. The TV displays the main game, and the phone has a map of the course which is quite cool.
There is a bit of luck here, as it depends on the quality of WiFi signal in your home and interference can affect how well this system works. Certainly it has its uses though and I suspect there will be firmware improvements for it.
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bugger, I wish they'd hurry up and release to TV version, I have a top of the range samsung tv which will work as the cast dongle when they get around to enabling it, i'm hoping latency will be slightly less too as its a straight hop to the TV bypassing the HDMI connections.
Allshare cast dongle experiences
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I received my official Allshare cast dongle today and although it is working I can't seem to get videos that I play to appear on BOTH screens at the same time. On various youtube reviews/demos, I have seen people playing videos with it appearing on the TV and the GS3 screen simulaneously. When I play a video it only appears on the TV and on the GS3 screen I get either a black background (e.g. youtube player) or a black background with the allshare icon logo on it and the player controls (standard video player).
What do I need to do to get the video to appear on both screens at the same time?
Cheers,
Richard.
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Hi, I have had my dongle for a few weeks now. Few problems and very upset with lack of support from samsung. I read you're message while trying to solve my issues. I have just used vlc player from the market and it plays video on screen and the tv together. Hope it helps. Wonder if you know how to make the image fit the my tv screen, it cuts edges of at the moment. Thanks and good luck
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Hi, I have had my dongle for a few weeks now. Few problems and very upset with lack of support from samsung. I read you're message while trying to solve my issues. I have just used vlc player from the market and it plays video on screen and the tv together. Hope it helps. Wonder if you know how to make the image fit the my tv screen, it cuts edges of at the moment. Thanks and good luck
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Thanks. Yes I since discovered that VLC let you do the mirrored playback after looking very closely at some youtube videos that demonstrated this mode.
Out of interest what other problems are you having? I haven't had time to test mine all that much yet. One thing that annoys me is that there is no on/off button so I have to unplug it to turn it off (I have it hooked up to my HDMI auto switch).
I can't get it to fit tv properly, sometimes requires two or three attempts to connect. Streaming Iplayer has audio sync problems, there is no alternative for audio out to a sound system and today it disconnected and refused to connect for ages. Had to unplug and reset with button at least 3 times. When is first got it my phone had no option for allshare and Samsung don't have any support on it. No one could tell me that I had to update through Kies on my desktop to get this option. All in all I do like it and use it loads, I'm just hoping the new official jb firmware will increase stability. Funny enough the guy I bought it of on ebay here in Turkey emailed me asking for confirmation it works as he has had loads of negative feedback from selling them. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt Samsung to create some support pages. But as usual xda dev prevails.
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I have noticed that if you change channel on the phone it automatically disconnects the allshare connection. I never turn it off for this reason. But not very eco friendly I know.
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There is a firmware update in the Samsung app store for the allshare cast dongle, available today. So far, there is a rapid connection established to the unit, stable. Sound issues also are resolved so far. Great update.
Hello, recently (like android 4.2) youtube has decided to stop buffering videos whenever it feels like it, which means the video just hangs when it gets there with the little buffer wheel spinning. Sometimes it will continue to load the video after it stops, but most of the time it just locks up the whole app and you have to force close it and re-launch it. I have tried clearing app cache and data and what not, but nothing has helped. I even tried turning off wifi optimization, but that didn't help either. I thought that maybe it was my ISP, but the same videos in the browser play just fine with no buffering at all. It seems to do this regardless of the length of the video. I get about 30mbps down and 5.5up when I run speedtest on my tablet, so I don't think it's the connection that's causing the issue. I should also mention that this happens regardless of quality. It will load relatively quickly to a certain point, then just never buffer again. I fear the only way to resolve this issue will be a factory reset.
This Reddit thread solved my YouTube issues. I have fios, fyi.
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/13kmvd/have_time_warner_internet_but_can_barely_stream/
Edit: oops this apparently.might be a problem with the new YouTube app.
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I get this! All started when I upgraded to android 4.3! Its highly annoying, and the only way. I have found to fix it is to kill the YouTube app, find the video and place you where at, and then go from there
I also had this issue before the YouTube app was recently updated
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I'm having the exact same issue! I might get it to play one video and the it buffers constantly. Anybody else have this issue? I'm running stock 4.3 uprooted. YouTube works fine on my s4 and laptop, but hangs on the Nexus 10!
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Happens on my moto x too.
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Can also confirm on Nexus 10.
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Same problem here.
You don't have to force close youtube by the way, simply pressing the home button and going back to youtube afterwards does the job for me as well.
I hope they will fix that issue soon
This sucks so bad! I just got this awesome nexus 10 and I literally cat go 5 seconds without buffer. Do I have a bad unit? How do I fix this? I can surf the web just fine so it isn't my wifi to the nexus 10.
methodz said:
This sucks so bad! I just got this awesome nexus 10 and I literally cat go 5 seconds without buffer. Do I have a bad unit? How do I fix this? I can surf the web just fine so it isn't my wifi to the nexus 10.
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Try an app called "Viral' from the playstore. I started using it as it can play YouTube music videos in the background while I'm using some other app. Recently I've been having issues with the default YouTube app and discovered that Viral did not have those issues. It may be worth giving it a try. I'm using a 4.4 custom ROM linked in my signature so your mileage may vary.
The issue I'm having is YouTube stops half way through a video and simply will not continue playing that video from the stop point, even after a reboot. I can play another video but it too stops half way or so in.
The YouTube app isn't NEARLY as good as it should, I'm still enraged and disgusted about the fact that the YouTube app on iPad is so MUCH better than the Android one, it has gestures to let you toggle full screen , it has pull down to refresh on lists (like the pull down to refresh on the gmail app), if you exit the app and come back, the video you were playing doesn't have to be rebuffered again (it keeps a few seconds buffered so you can watch the video quickly) AND worst of all, the iOS app lets YOU choose the resolution of your stream, what you get isn't an HD "on" and "off" toggle, you get proper choosing, like on the website, you get to choose between 240p, 360p, 480p, 720p AND 1080p, HD on our app is 720p, not 1080p, actually Google disabled the option from all android apps.
After that update I lost a lot of faith in Google, no wonder the iPad has so many more high quality apps, if you want devs to take you seriously, then YOU should give proper support to your devices, 1080p streams should have been available ever since our N10 was released, this **** is just unacceptable.
Thanks @3DSammy for the tip about the Viral app. :highfive:
Well, I figured out the issue, but not a fix. I think it's tied to comcast's router. I set up an old linksys with a broadcomm wireless unit as a repeater and I haven't had a single issue since. Numerous router resets and devices restores did nothing. It doesn't make any sense though because it only happens with the YouTube app, but same settings and everything I was able to watch a video completely on my nexus 10 on the repeater that I could not get through on comcast's router/modem(Aaris unit). It's strange though because my repeater connects wirelessly to my comcast router, so it goes nexus 10 to linksys repeater to comcast's router. It could be a security issue I guess, but I didn't look into it.
Hi,
when playing music on Jelly Bean on my Evo 3D there seem to occur random "lags", at which no music is playing. These lags are shorter than a second, but still very annoying. A few seconds there is music without problem, then these quirks, then music again... Any idea what I could do to fix or work around this?
Thanks,
exic
This appears both with and without headphones fwiw.
does it happen while screen is off? and on every player?
Had the same issue, I guess its over taxing the evo's ram or CPU, so I just purchased a new moto x as my USB port also was playing games, makes the evo feel old
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Yes, it happens when screen is off. Tried Mortplayer and the pre-installed Apollo, both had this issue. I found out that enabling airplane mode at least mitigates the problem.
Might be CPU, I enabled dev options and then CPU usage. Load was quite high when it appeared, however I wasn't able to detect a definite correlation. I guess android is supposed to get its priorities right, so that the active process gets all the resources it needs.
Incredibly annoying and happens here too.
Xperia P, CM 10.1
hello to all, greetings from Spain, I open this issue because since last Friday I am the new owner of lg v30, but I have a problem that I do not like at all, and I would like to know if the same thing happens to you too
on YouTube, I've put some videos of these shows to see the screen and others, and I noticed that the videos in 1080p60 are pretty lag, and quite annoying frame losses, like stoppages, (in one of Youtube videos, a demo of LG, a red car comes out, and happens to be next to the camera and the next frame is already 2 meters, I do not know if I explain) and I'm quite fussy about this issue, what I put the same video to 1080p also in a leeco le pro 3, and it looks fluidisimo, perfect .... why can this be? Someone else happens?
I do not know if you can put links, if you can please tell me and I'll post the video so you can try it if you can see it well
Another question, does your phone heat up? is that I notice it hotter than the leeco, as soon as I put some video like this 1080p60 gets tempered by the area of the camera, I do not know if that is normal or not
Thank you very much and hopefully answer
Happens to me too. I also tested this on a Galaxy S8 and it has identically bad performance. It probably also happens on the Note 8. 1080p30 HDR runs fine though. I didn't notice any heating - maybe just slightly warm but could as well be from my hands. Was the other phone you tested HDR capable?
I don't know if I can help you at all, but perhaps if you fill in some blanks, others might.
1) What model phone do you own and what firmware are you on (stock, stock rooted, custom ROM, etc)? You can check your firmware under Settings.
2) Can you link us to a video that's giving you problems?
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I don't know if I can help you at all, but perhaps if you fill in some blanks, others might.
1) What model phone do you own and what firmware are you on (stock, stock rooted, custom ROM, etc)? You can check your firmware under Settings.
2) Can you link us to a video that's giving you problems?
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hello, thank you very much for answering
1) my phone is lg v30 h930, stock, just removed from the box without touching anything, and the software version is V21w-EUR-XX
2) this problem happens to me in all the videos that I play on YouTube 1080p60 HDR (if I put the same video in 720p60 HDR the problem improves a lot, it becomes almost imperceptible) but the problem is that youtube does not give the option to deactivate the hdr, so if the video has that option, it activates it
I give you some examples of the videos that I have tried and they are very annoying ( It does not let me put links because I have less than 10 messages, I put the description of the youtube thumbnail, the first videos come out )
on youtube put "lg oled demo ", and play the first video, which shows a teapot in the thumbnail, and the video that shows a butterfly in the thumbnail, both are 4k Hdr 60fps
the phone I have it all activated, the HDR, I have not activated any energy savings, this all to the maximum ... I do not know what can happen, I do not know if it is the snapdragon 835 problem that can not with so much demand .... Do you think that could be why?
I have a pocophone f1 my brother, and the same video runs smoothly, very very fluid, but does not allow HDR, but I do not want hdr only make it look fluid
I've also noticed a bit of lag in chrome, in firefox it's better to scroll
Do you think it will be solved in any way? is that if I'm not return it and buy another phone thinking, something like pocophone because they do not have that kind of budget : llorando:
thank you very much and I hope response
I just tested that first video you suggested (the one with the teapot thumbnail) and I had absolutely no issues with playback. No stutter or lag with either the video or audio.
It's perfectly smooth, and really a lovely video.
I'm not an expert on HDR (since I don't use this device to watch movies or TV shows via Netflix or any other service), but as far as I can tell, the HDR triggered properly.
I have HDR turned on Settings, of course, and it's my understanding that you can tell when HDR turns on (when you rotate to Landscape) because the white Youtube pause/play buttons (amongst others) get very bright compared to Portrait view (which is supposed to disable HDR).
I also have never had any issues with Chrome. But I don't use FireFox, so I can't really compare the two.
I'm using an American open market US998 LG V30 on stock 20D (an old firmware from around June/July 2018), rooted.
I plan on updating my phone to the newest stock firmware one of these days, but haven't gotten around to it.
I have no idea what's going on with your phone. I understand it's new.
Maybe try checking to see if there's an OTA firmware update ready for you to install? (You might be running system software even older than mine, with a flawed HDR implementation).
Maybe there are some bloatware apps that came with your phone that are impacting performance.
Perhaps a factory reset could help?
I'm sorry I can't be of more help.
Que tengas buena suerte.
When i Am on STOCK ROM there is stutter and lag..
Install A CUSTOM ROM (tested on dot os) The colors still look vivid and plays smooth!! Absolutely no lag
I have had this issue since I first took my V30 out the box. Have the latest update for stock ROM/ VS996/Verizon. I gave up trying to troubleshoot this issue.
im using vanced as default YouTube app. it has an option to enable VP9 codec, that'll make your playback smoother even at 1440p60fps. But it kill HDR (but the color still the same tho). Shame, that V30 couldn't play HDR, because this phone is one of YouTube Signature Devices https://devicereport.youtube.com/phones/lg_v30.
Update: When I play that "lg oled demo" video, it doesn't stutter, I don't notice any of them. But when play "peru hdr" it stutter a lot. I'm using H932 latest stock. Try to activate that VP9 codec if you don't want HDR after all. Also, I don't use Chrome anymore, I disable it and using others. try Kiwi or Brave both are chromium based if you prefer chrome-like interface. If Firefox feels better so stick with it.
Just turn off hdr in display settings, every lg v30 has this problem. I think it's because hw decoder cannot keep up so this problem applies to every snapdragon 835 phone. Hw is capable of 1080p30fps HDR in vp9, 1080p60fps HDR is on the limit and can drop frames. HDR is gimmick for me, it is not well implemented. The quality is much worse than normal videos. For me bigger problem is that oled screen cannot reproduce dark colors because of low uniformity when pixels are barerly turned on and very slow response time in that matter too but that's for another topic.