Software (ease of use, features, etc) - Huawei Mate 9 Real Life Review

When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Huawei Mate 9's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

i am a big fan of emui, there's not much more to say, great design, very smooth, many useful functions, app drawer is back, only thing: i miss the option to hide applications from the homescreen (drawer) like in earlyer emui versions.
and the theme variety is also very little for emui and it changes not much from the system ui, i hope there will be more soon.
the camera software was a bit confusing at the beginning, but now i get used to it and everything is clear now. i wish there would be some more modes like, landscape, snow, beach, night, firework and so on like on xperia devices.
and the hdr function is not very convincing, i don't notice andy difference between normal and hdr, normal photo looks a bit hdr, and hdr looks a bit hdr but nothing more...

What is Carrier Aggregation?
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bym007 said:
What is Carrier Aggregation?
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First Google result: "An LTE-Advanced technology which combines multiple spectrum bands – it's the technological equivalent adding extra lanes to a highway, allowing for higher-speed data traffic"

Governa said:
First Google result: "An LTE-Advanced technology which combines multiple spectrum bands – it's the technological equivalent adding extra lanes to a highway, allowing for higher-speed data traffic"
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Thanks for google result. But I was looking for a layman explanation really.
How does it affect or improve my experience ?
Some call it granny answer too .

bym007 said:
Thanks for google result. But I was looking for a layman explanation really.
How does it affect or improve my experience ?
Some call it granny answer too .
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That IS a layman explanation. Quoting: "it's the technological equivalent of adding extra lanes to a highway, allowing for higher-speed data traffic"
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Governa said:
That IS a layman explanation. Quoting: "it's the technological equivalent of adding extra lanes to a highway, allowing for higher-speed data traffic"
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It sounds like a battery hog to me, by opening extra channels on your LTE.
A bit like MIMO on WIFI.

bym007 said:
It sounds like a battery hog to me, by opening extra channels on your LTE.
A bit like MIMO on WIFI.
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LTE is also having MIMO nowadays ya...most mobile operators have deployed this to get more throughput.

Its a good UI but it can be better. It have some flaws as no double tap to wake, double tap to sleep, offscreen gestures.

The camera UI could be improved slightly as things like the zoom x doesn't change orientation when you use the phone in landscape rather than portrait.

bym007 said:
What is Carrier Aggregation?
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Nice to know this phone has this feature! Trust me it's not a bad feature.

Governa said:
That IS a layman explanation. Quoting: "it's the technological equivalent of adding extra lanes to a highway, allowing for higher-speed data traffic"
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He/she doesn't know what a highway is! lol

Mate9 SW
I had this phone for almost half year and it was awesome. Big screen, smooth EMUI, perfect camera, performance really high. Only one bug this phone had, and seems only in my case. When I turned bluetooth screen freezes and you cant do anything, unless you reboot it with power button. Of course I set up a fingerprint unlock and then after phone turned on i had to input password (that i know which is it) and phone wouldn't accept it. That lead me to hard reset and frp unlock etc. After some research I found that that could happen to some phones that are unlocked from network carrier.
Also one cons of big phones is that whenever you go at the bar or restaurant everyone can see what you doing on your phone. So i went from Mate 9 to P10 Plus a small resize of phone

I like the EMUI, but i have a question about GPS. with other brand of the phone, i can enable location service based on the wifi or date, at the same time disable GPS. when using the map, i simply enble the GPS from the drop down menu. and disable it once i finished using the map. however, with Mate 9, i have to go to the setting to enable the GPS if using the map, and if i disable it via the drop down menu, then it also diable the location service. is there is a way around? basically i want permentally enable the location based on the wifi or data, but only tougle on of off GPS when using the map. thanks

Related

Fun G-Sensor app: hdBoobs (= iPhone's iBoobs)

Hi guys!
Here's the current version of my "hdBoobs".
Here's a little (screw-up-colored) Screenshot from the app:
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Latest News:
The first final version (v1.0) is now online. Check the download below!
Latest News:
A new version (v1.1) is now online. Check the download below!
What's new:
Over 100% more performance (framerate is now twice as high)
Because of that the motion is much more fluid
The model is a little bigger, so there's more boobs
The model/texture has been optimized an fixed little
Latest News (v1.2):
A new version (v1.2) is now online. Check the download below!
What's new:
Added lots of details to the model, improved lighting and doubled the texture's resolution (see new screenshot)
Almost doubled the G-Sensor sensitivity for a better wobbling experience
By the way: if you like hdBoobs you can buy me a beer if you want
Just donate one or two bucks: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=6246726
Can you please post some screens?
Thanks
http://ipodtouchtricks.net/ipod-tou...ch-app-iboobs-rejected-as-if-it-was-porn-app/
You came too late !
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522179
Zepiii This application is diffrent. If you can't see this, it's time to buy glasses
Good news everyone!
A new version is already in development, featuring:
+ Improved Physics: now the app is more sensitive to shaking rather than tilting your phone. Also the sensitivity will be higher, so that smaller moves have greater effect -> Look and feel is much better!
+ Improved performance (maybe not noticable, but I kicked out 10% of useless code )
+ A new texture (still I'm no artist, but I'm doing my best)
+ Some minor fixes not worth mentioning...
It'll be hopefully be done by the end of the week. Thanks for your support!
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Good news everyone!
A new version is already in development, featuring:
+ Improved Physics: now the app is more sensitive to shaking rather than tilting your phone. Also the sensitivity will be higher, so that smaller moves have greater effect -> Look and feel is much better!
+ Improved performance (maybe not noticable, but I kicked out 10% of useless code )
+ A new texture (still I'm no artist, but I'm doing my best)
+ Some minor fixes not worth mentioning...
It'll be hopefully be done by the end of the week. Thanks for your support!
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Sounds great! Thanks!
I think i'm gonna vote it as the best app of the year.
good job.
what kind of programs do u use to create the model?
bieski said:
Zepiii This application is diffrent. If you can't see this, it's time to buy glasses
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Or simply explain it, instead of being arrogant?
For myself, i don't see anything except a picture, where it looks like moving boobs i suppose by shaking them, like in hdWobble?
@Zepiii: Maybe you should get those glasses after all
hdWobble is image based, meaning totally 2D. hdBoobs is fully 3D and based on OpenGL.
@haunterx:
I used the 30day Trial of Autodesk 3dStudio Max.
By the way:
Work on the final release is going well. The new physics engine feels much better and is a lot more responsive. Also the texture looks a little better now...stay tuned!
Hey guys!
I read that there problems with the TouchHD? Sadly I don't have one to check that out...
Could you post about your experience? (heard something about chunky movement)
Also some people reported that there are "some errors now and then". Did you have them too? What exactly was the problem?
I'm counting on your input! All bugs you report will be fixed in the next Version, I promise
Works great on my HD with 6.5 Miri V18
works good on my HD too, wm6.1 21051 superlite
btw, i think you should increase polygons twice at least.. and maybe show full model if one want?
maybe 3d model loader?
and please add the option to change the most important forms (i mean wireframe editor)
you know, 3dvilla will show you how it all ends
A new version (1.1) is available. You can install it right over the old version.
Now the performance is twice as high
Check out the first post for more information!
Very funny !!!
Is there any chance that we could modify the gravity, friction, boobs size values ?
@zeer:
I don't think doubling the polygon count would be a good idea. The framerate is low enough. At least my phone couldn't handle it...
And a wireframe editor? On a mobile phone?? Are you serious???
If you want to create a cool model take 3dsMax, and mail it to me. I'll include it it in the app ASAP.
@gagvas:
Modifying the boob size would be difficult since this is part of the 3d model. So a new model would be neccessary...
All the physics parameters will be outsourced to a config file sooner or later. So maybe you'll be able to fiddle around with them in the next release.
I think the sensitivity could be a little bit higher, as it is quite hard to "move" the boobs .
i have some *3d models* available if you need...
A new version is online with great improvements. See front page for more details...
@haunterx:
Sounds interesting! What have you got?

what do people think of 480x800 pixels?

i just want to get an idea of what others think of that display resolution. I am used to iphones retina display so to me it looks aot worse... writing isnt clear..just looks yucky.. but what do others think?
480x800 is a resolution not pixels. Anyway, to me it doesn't matter at all due to the ppi increase and the larger screen size.
ppi is still like 100 less then iphones... the larger screen size means jack if resolution is crap..true?
peterdan1506 said:
ppi is still like 100 less then iphones... the larger screen size means jack if resolution is crap..true?
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It's all we have for now. The truth is that the graphics are fuzzier then on iPhone 4, but nothing you can do about it.
which is why i think iphones still win
peterdan1506 said:
which is why i think iphones still win
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That's your opinion on the matter, just go with whatever floats your boat. I can never live with an iphone cause they just suck for pure media capabilities.
peterdan1506 said:
which is why i think iphones still win
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It depends on what you want from your phone. I actually like the AMOLED display and larger screen, and don't care for resolution as much. Every product has it's audience.
Disfected said:
That's your opinion on the matter, just go with whatever floats your boat. I can never live with an iphone cause they just suck for pure media capabilities.
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+1. The iPhone's screen is a bit sharper when viewing text, but the colors that the GSII produce are unlike any other non-Samsung device. Super vibrant, perfect screen size (for me), and battery-saving.
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what do u mean by media capabilities?
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what do u mean by media capabilities?
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Certain flash access to sites, no conversion for media content, plays all .mkv format with subtitle support on the fly. Stuff like that isn't really capable on an iphone because it lacks support or just requires more time input to make it work, by tedious conversions.
what about graphics chip? is it much worse noticable compared 2 the iphone 4s..in ur opinion??
No idea since I never use my phone as a gaming device because I carry a 3DS with me.
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erm....win what?
seems like this guy is just trying to stir up ****.....who goes into a forum for a particular product and asks the users if their product is crappier than another product
im not trying 2 stir nothing up... i just think iphones win in overall performance and simplicity
The iphone wins in regards to sharpness and gaming performance. But here's the thing. Give it 1-2 yrs before that gpu is finally put to use (by the time 2 yrs cone you'll be on your next phone, so whooptydoo) . So in other words, whatever game or not comes out right now for the iphone, the sgs 2 can more than handle them. The sgs 2 of course wins in customizability, no contest is that.
$1 gets you a reply
you started 3 posts about the same thing, obviously you're trying to stir ****. who cares if u think the iphone wins blah blah
rachnov55 said:
seems like this guy is just trying to stir up ****.....who goes into a forum for a particular product and asks the users if their product is crappier than another product
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That's exactly what I'm feeling/thinking too.
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[Q]Why should i use Android?

Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
sweetnsour said:
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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but i hope that the SGSIII wont have these "On Screen Buttons" :/ i hate them somehow - i wanna get a feedback when i push a button and not just a vibration
You'd be happier without Android.
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If your okay with Apple's limitations and price point then the iPhone isn't a bad choice. What limitations you ask?
-Non-removable battery
-Non upgradable memory
-Proprietary charging cable (not a con if you already own some)
-Can't sideload apps without jailbreaking
-Device choice
-Custom launchers, keyboards, widgets, etc
Some people want something that just works, but others want something they can tinker with and personalize and don't mind dealing with issues. Sort of like the car enthusiast who buys the classic muscle car that might need some work compared to the average car driver who buys something new and reliable.
Also try checking this out.
I can't remember this list I came across at the moment but go to google and type in 20 things iPhone users can't do that android users can. If I find it tomorrow I'll post it.
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For me, the advantage of Android in contrast to Apple is that the most - and quite - Apps in the Play Store are for free.
One - and the almost - point is that you can change the battery in Android phones and in the iPhones series not. Also if your iPhone would be long used the memory effect takes effect and you can throw it away because repairing is more expensive than a new modell.
In Android phones you can change the battery if you have feeling that the battery lifetime is low.
SpeedYY said:
Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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Cuerrix said:
Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
You will love iPhone iOS if :
1.You want something that is working for you and you willing to live with the same thing for quite a long time.
2.You won't bother if your neighbour's phone, your school teacher's phone, your auntie's phone, your baby sitter's (if you have kids ) phone are having ALL THE SAME design for hardware and software.
3.If you think that a phone can represent your status in the social.
4.If you are a boss (just kidding... it might be true sometimes, at somewhere...)
5.If you always worrying people find out what you did in last summer.
You will love Android phones if :
1.You easily get bored with what the stock is having and wish that you can do something about it.
2.You can't sleep well for few nights thinking why your neighbour's phone UI looks exactly the same as yours.
3.If you think that a smartphone must capable of doing more things and having more freedoms than iPhone.
4.If you want to take control over the phone instead of letting it control the way you live with it. (e.g : remove system apps that you don't want from your phone)
5.If you don't mind someone knows what you did in last summer.
Cuerrix said:
Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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You can use flash on an iphone.
Dave
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kemmo123 said:
indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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i own a WP7 right now xD so it´s comparable with that Automatic transmission car either - nearly not customization- but works and the user doesn't realize it. And im sick of WP7 because they don´t have as many apps as all other OS' got. The second thing i hate about it is the way how you have to unlock it... COMPLICATED :/ ( i bricked my WP7 :'D ) - The third thing i hate about WP7 are the high prices for apps... ( 2,99€ for Doodle Jump -.- )
Android: custom Roms ( Lite'ning Rom for example - but unfortunately non of my friends is using a custom Rom for Android -.- ), easy sideloading, cheap apps ( dunno about the quality of the apps - if someone could tell me how the quality is like i would thank that guy - )
iPhone: high Quality apps, nice design, MUST HAVE PHONE
MikeyMike01 said:
Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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You must be a troll
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Coffinfeeder said:
You must be a troll
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Having a 4.7" screen is great but 5.x" like the Note has just sucks...
MikeyMike01 said:
Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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Well the beauty of Android is you can pick the screen size anything from just over 3" to 5". Personally I don't want anything much over 4" and like a keyboard so the Droid 3 was my best choice. Phones shouldn't be one size fits all and manufacturers will build whatever size phones sell. Large screens has been an untapped market so 2012 is the year of large screens. But as long as there is demand for < 4" screens then they will still be produced.

The new Google Earth

Has any else tried the new Google Earth on our Transformer Primes. The updates are pretty amazing, but it runs like crap on my Prime. I get constant freezes, lags, ANR's, screen tearing, screen flickering, screen flashing, screen corruption, and crashes. Seems to happen whenever I pan/rotate and Google Earth needs to download a BUNCH of data to fill in the visuals on the screen. I'm on the latest .28 firmware. It's like the browser issue but 1,000 times worse.
Yeah, I have the same issues. Whenever I try to get close to a large city, in GE with the new 3D maps, the whole screen just starts flickering und can not be used any longer. It seems to only concern the app though, as I can exit via the Home button and continue to use the tablet.
It seems like the perfect testing app for our devices
It runs fine on mu Gnex.
I was messing with the app right before I updated it and it was working great. Silky smooth. I updated it and it was running pretty bad so I cleared the cache and increased its size and it now seems to be running better. I actually had to try and make it lag.
I just used it for 10 minutes or so with no crashes or other problems. ??
Earth and Maps have both been causing me troubles.
Ha. I posted about this in the. 28 review thread last night. Google Earth puts my Prime in ANR hell. Glad I bought such a powerful quad core tablet. Thanks a lot, Asus.
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Scumbag Inc. said:
I was messing with the app right before I updated it and it was working great. Silky smooth. I updated it and it was running pretty bad so I cleared the cache and increased its size and it now seems to be running better. I actually had to try and make it lag.
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You mean the "cache" in Earth settings or in tablet settings/apps?! I increased the caching, but haven't cleard the cache, same for my GNex which works!?
Oh, by the way: Mass Effect Infiltrator causes the same problem for me after a while.
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You mean the "cache" in Earth settings or in tablet settings/apps?! I increased the caching, but haven't cleard the cache, same for my GNex which works!?
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Same situation here. It works flawlessly on my dual-core Galaxy Nexus, but like dog crap on my quad-core Transformer Prime. This is why I will only buy Nexus products in the future, so long as they're not made by Awful Asus.
I had major problems and much like the above poster, I cleared cache and all was well.
Working fine for me. No crashes, zooms in and out fine, love the new features and a more detailed 3d buildings. This update makes finding attractions much simpler.
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I cleared the cache. Set the data cache to large. In the general tablet system settings, I had use GPS location service checked so unchecked that setting and checked use location by wifi and new Google Earth now runs much much smoother.
Scumbag Inc. said:
.....so I cleared the cache and increased its size and it now seems to be running better. I actually had to try and make it lag.
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Can you tell me how you increased it's size?
I assume you mean increased the memory allocated, but I'm not sure how you do that.
Thanks!
I cleared the cache and it still ran like crap. I changed my tablet from normal mode to performance mode and it's at least usable now. Still not smooth like my Galaxy Nexus, but it's not ANR'ing on me at the moment. I'm sure it will though...
ShelW said:
Can you tell me how you increased it's size?
I assume you mean increased the memory allocated, but I'm not sure how you do that.
Thanks!
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google earth/settings/data cache size/ choose your cache size.
nyijedi said:
I cleared the cache and it still ran like crap. I changed my tablet from normal mode to performance mode and it's at least usable now. Still not smooth like my Galaxy Nexus, but it's not ANR'ing on me at the moment. I'm sure it will though...
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Nevermind. Freezes and ANR's up to wazoo still. Quad-core power!
Well I tried and man its so slow the browser flies in comparsion. Oh I was in Rome.
Can I just blame it all on i/o?
I've seen users of other high end phones and tablets complaining of the same issue, so I don't think it is just us. It's worth the slowness, Rome, Italy looks absolutely stunning in 3D.
dandmcd said:
I've seen users of other high end phones and tablets complaining of the same issue, so I don't think it is just us. It's worth the slowness, Rome, Italy looks absolutely stunning in 3D.
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It's not just slowness. It's COMPLETE lockups followed by ANRs. It's essentially unusable.

[Q] Dual GPS

What about the dual channel GPS?
Do you feel any differences comparing to your previous phone?
A few quick tests over the past day or so have shown it to be a major step up from my Oneplus6 and the compass has been spot on
chimpusmaximus said:
A few quick tests over the past day or so have shown it to be a major step up from my Oneplus6 and the compass has been spot on
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Could you make an video about with the app tested gpstest?
aygul12345 said:
Could you make an video about with the app tested gpstest?
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Any use https://youtu.be/PQgIUiPCBFg
chimpusmaximus said:
Any use https://youtu.be/PQgIUiPCBFg
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How long does it takes to get an fixed gps location?
aygul12345 said:
How long does it takes to get an fixed gps location?
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Dual frequency GPS was a consideration to my purchase of this phone - hoping for great things, completely unknown to reality.
I work in the CBD and drive out of an underground car park. With my Samsung S8 and later a work provided Motorola g5s Plus it took a small but considerable amount of time for Google Maps to pick up where I was exactly - sometimes would pick me up in another street, adjusting until it got its lock on me.
Using the Mate 20 Pro, OMG.... I am stoked! Just as I'm coming out of the car park (maybe 2 or so metres before actual sight of sky) Google Maps has an accurate pin of where I am. This invaluable (apart from Maps telling me best way home traffic wise immediately) as I use a Vehicle Log Book which obviously relies on GPS as well. Normally i've been at least 1km away before the Log Book app recognised I was actually driving in the CBD.
Absolutely love this dual frequency GPS as I assume this is what has made picking up my location in CBD enormously quicker.
ero69 said:
Dual frequency GPS was a consideration to my purchase of this phone - hoping for great things, completely unknown to reality.
I work in the CBD and drive out of an underground car park. With my Samsung S8 and later a work provided Motorola g5s Plus it took a small but considerable amount of time for Google Maps to pick up where I was exactly - sometimes would pick me up in another street, adjusting until it got its lock on me.
Using the Mate 20 Pro, OMG.... I am stoked! Just as I'm coming out of the car park (maybe 2 or so metres before actual sight of sky) Google Maps has an accurate pin of where I am. This invaluable (apart from Maps telling me best way home traffic wise immediately) as I use a Vehicle Log Book which obviously relies on GPS as well. Normally i've been at least 1km away before the Log Book app recognised I was actually driving in the CBD.
Absolutely love this dual frequency GPS as I assume this is what has made picking up my location in CBD enormously quicker.
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Can you give us an update on your sentiment towards the GPS accuracy and precision? I’m very curious if you have to contend with a lot of skyscrapers, like in Manhattan New York. I have also been at intersections in Japan where it instead of a four way intersection you’ll have an eight way intersection and if you don’t have absolute accuracy with your GPS you will go down the wrong road. What are your thoughts?
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Wich app is to see the satalites
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Any use https://youtu.be/PQgIUiPCBFg
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I watched the video, sorry to say (and also sad to know) that dual GPS is not yet enabled. you need to see a single GPS satellite outputting two frequencies namely L1 and L5 (CF), or to put it in another way, the app should show two similar IDs for the respective GNSS.
I remember someone saying that they did see L5/E5 enabled in 9.0.0.171.
If there is a reliability/lock improvement via Google Maps, it's because of 9.0.0.146 update.
L5/E5 features and benefits over L1:
1) Improved ionospheric correction
2) Signal redundancy
3) Improved signal accuracy
4) Improved interference rejection
5) L5 is, to date, the most advanced civilian GPS signal
6) It transmits at a higher power than current civil GPS signals --> RELIABILITY
7) Has a wider bandwidth: Its lower frequency may also enhance reception for indoor users
Interesting article about Dual GPS implementation on recent android smartphones, from the author of GPStest:
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
Dual frequency GPS test
I used this app for testing the dual frequency GPS:
Geo++ RINEX Logger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.geopp.rinexlogger
and apparently it shows the GPS module to synch with:
GPS L5
GALILEO E5a
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Test performed indoor, Mate 20 Pro firmware just updated to v.153.
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I used this app for testing the dual frequency GPS:
Geo++ RINEX Logger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.geopp.rinexlogger
and apparently it shows the GPS module to synch with:
GPS L5
GALILEO E5a
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Test performed indoor, Mate 20 Pro firmware just updated to v.153.
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I tried this on 146, results are the same. But I still feel Dual GPS is not enabled fully.
notice that there is not even a single Multipath L5/E5 lock although they are detected. Red bars should appear for all four of them. Also we need to wait for another 4-5 years to be able to see ~30 cm accuracy because currently a handful of satellites are offering L5/E5 and by 2022 it is predicted to rise to ~24 satellites.
btw cycle slips gives an estimate of GPS accuracy because L5 signal power is around 3dB more than L1 and chances of phase lock disconnections due to cloud/rain/trees/buildings etc will be relatively less as compared to L1.
Multipath is to do with GPS reliability: if you are getting quick GPS locks inside your house while you are away from window, then you must be thanking L5 multipath signals..
Also, trade-off for accuracy is reliability, not the other way round: this means that the good will not get that better but, importantly, the bad will not get worse..
Cycle Slips: https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog862/node/1728
Multipath: https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog862/node/1721
Probably in my case the app doesn't detect multipath just because I'm currently in a house located in a flat country with open sky and no buildings higher than 6 meters and nearer than 50 meters in the surroundings.
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Probably in my case the app doesn't detect multipath just because I'm currently in a house located in a flat country with open sky and no buildings higher than 6 meters and nearer than 50 meters in the surroundings.
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actually that should have been the case since multipath is situational
but L1 Multipath is functioning?
could someone with 171 test GPS because I read somewhere that GPSTest app is showing both L1 and L5 CF for some of the GNSSs in 171.
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actually that should have been the case since multipath is situational
but L1 Multipath is functioning?
could someone with 171 test GPS because I read somewhere that GPSTest app is showing both L1 and L5 CF for some of the GNSSs in 171.
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Nothing showing in the CF column in 171.
Classic article
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Interesting article about Dual GPS implementation on recent android smartphones, from the author of GPStest:
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
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I also read Sean Barbeau’s article on dual frequency GPS with great anticipation. From all indications, dual frequency GPS on smart phones from a real world USE perspective has been a total bust to date. Although companies like Xiaomi and Huawei trumpeted this as a great achievement, no one has realized any practical decimeter-level accuracy benefit. To be fair, there are possibly faster lock times reported but not substantiated..
What an unfortunate situation. I double checked the Xiaomi forums to ensure there has not been any tremendous development as far as 30 cm accuracy. After all, they’ve had nearly a year to work out any kinks. As of this date there has not been anything close to 30 cm accuracy substantiated.
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Interesting article about Dual GPS implementation on recent android smartphones, from the author of GPStest:
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
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themissionimpossible said:
I used this app for testing the dual frequency GPS:
Geo++ RINEX Logger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.geopp.rinexlogger
and apparently it shows the GPS module to synch with:
GPS L5
GALILEO E5a
:good:
Test performed indoor, Mate 20 Pro firmware just updated to v.153.
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Thanks for this link
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Mulitpath is not locking... Is that normal?
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Mulitpath is not locking... Is that normal?
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themissionimpossible said:
Interesting article about Dual GPS implementation on recent android smartphones, from the author of GPStest:
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
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Still no support for Huawei mate 20 pro.
. 153 build.
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.232 has CF values in GPSTest for Mate 20 Pro

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