Question GPS/GNSS capabilities? - Sony Xperia 1 III

Hi,
there is this gpstest app whose maintainer builds a database with the GNSS capabilties of different phone model: https://github.com/barbeau/gpstest
Database: https://bit.ly/gpstest-device-database
Medium article: https://barbeau.medium.com/crowdsourcing-gnss-capabilities-of-android-devices-d4228645cf25
Before I buy one, I'd like to know the exact specs.
Could someone who already owns an Xperia 1 III please use this app to submit that data?
Thanks
qduckq

done.
check in the database - right now it's #1241 in the list under the model name XQ-BC72.
supports GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, QZSS, BEIDOU.
SBAS = no support.
GNSS Channel Frequencies = b1, e1, l1 supported.
qduckq said:
Database: https://bit.ly/gpstest-device-database
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saved-j said:
done.
check in the database - right now it's #1241 in the list under the model name XQ-BC72.
supports GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, QZSS, BEIDOU.
SBAS = no support.
GNSS Channel Frequencies = b1, e1, l1 supported.
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Thanks! I am a bit disappointed though, as it is apparently not dual-frequency, contrary to what was speculated on GSMArena.

qduckq said:
not dual-frequency
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what exactly does it do? I'm not aware

Higher location accuracy. https://barbeau.medium.com/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c

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carrier aggregation issue on xiaomi phones

hey everyone, I'd like to open a discussion about getting carrier aggregations on our phones, as you already know many of us can't get this feature that's already been implemented on our carriers in many countries or in some countries one carrier does and one doesn't. it's called LTA-A, LTE plus. 4G Plus network
I saw a post on reddit and I quote :
"TIL : Redmi Note 3 Pro (Kenzo) doesn't support Inter-band CA
Recently, I just bought a carrier aggregation enabled operator's SIM card (Digi) to try out this phone's CA aka LTE-A aka 4G+. For your information, I live in Malaysia and you could look up for this operator in this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Asia. To my surprise, there's no 4G+ icon show up so I'd decided to look up for more info on Chinese MIUI regarding this. Users that are able to access 4G+ are all China Mobile users and China Telecom users are not able to. China Mobile had intra-band CA and China Telecom had inter-band CA and hence I came with a conclusion, this phone doesn't support Inter-band CA."
which makes sense to me, as the carrier in my country which is Iran uses Inter-Band CA and won't work on my phone which is kenzo(rn3).also none of the xiaomi phones work either (entry level to flagship ones)
so, does anyone have the knowledge to tell me and the others that is it possible to change Intra-Band CA to Inter-Band CA? or is it the hardware that should be changed in order to work?
note : LTE bands aren't the issue here, both carrier and phones support them.
@TheStrix @flar2 @franciscofranco @MEGAX91 @billchen1977 @dadi11 @psndna88 @xyyx (please don't mind the order)
any suggestions regarding this issue?
@MEGAX91 I believe you were successful on your device(kate). is there a complete guide for everyone that could follow?
I'm desperately looking for a reasonable solution
XDA topic here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/discussion-redmi-note-3-pro-kate-t3581472
MIUI confirms need: http://en.miui.com/thread-557855-1-1.html
Another thread: http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=656590
wwenigma said:
XDA topic here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/discussion-redmi-note-3-pro-kate-t3581472
MIUI confirms need: http://en.miui.com/thread-557855-1-1.html
Another thread: http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=656590
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hey man, I'm the same one on miui forum for the third link you mentioned(OP), I've confirmed that bug(you second link). I made this thread to get help from devs of this phone.
Carrier aggregation is working fine on Jio Kerala,India
Using LTE CA on band 5 and band 3
Azharudheen said:
Carrier aggregation is working fine on Jio Kerala,India
Using LTE CA on band 5 and band 3
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Did you modifiy something to get it working or is it working out of the box?
Azharudheen said:
Carrier aggregation is working fine on Jio Kerala,India
Using LTE CA on band 5 and band 3
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please upload the screenshots of :
- network signal guru app
- devcheck app>system tab
strat1959 said:
please upload the screenshots of :
- network signal guru app
- devcheck app>system tab
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AravindhStanley said:
Did you modifiy something to get it working or is it working out of the box?
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No I just followed the instruction on that post
strat1959 said:
please upload the screenshots of :
- network signal guru app
- devcheck app>system tab
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Now I am inside my home and signal is low here
Azharudheen said:
Carrier aggregation is working fine on Jio Kerala,India
Using LTE CA on band 5 and band 3
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what NV value you changed?
give that value plz
Azharudheen said:
Now I am inside my home and signal is low here
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It shows LTE+/4G+ but only 1 carrier. It cant working just got information from service provider about second carrier. I exactly got the same result.
2 different band, need to use 2 different antenna...
wwenigma said:
It shows LTE+/4G+ but only 1 carrier. It cant working just got information from service provider about second carrier. I exactly got the same result.
2 different band, need to use 2 different antenna...
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yes. me too same . Hardware fully support LTE-CA 2 carrier but service provider problem
mathan7 said:
yes. me too same . Hardware fully support LTE-CA 2 carrier but service provider problem
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There are very few operators which allow carrier aggregation.... Standards are there to implement in their network but mostly they are pretty expensive for them to bring live... May be in future, we may have

GPS receiver (Galileo) on Qualcomm Snapdragon (G965U1)

I have G965U1 (USA unlocked) based on Qualcomm Snapdragon. I use GPSTest, Geo++ RINEX Logger, GPS Satellites Viewer apps. All doesn't show Galileo, BDS, QZSS satellites at all. I can see GPS and Glonass satellites only. I have S8+ nearby and S8+ shows Galileo satellites as well as others.
I checked https://www.usegalileo.eu/EN/inner.html#data=smartphone and it looks like S9+ should be supported. Also I had a conversation with Samsung Support and they told that G965U1 supports Galileo.
According to this article http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/samsung-galaxy-s9-teardown/ G965U contains Integrated in Qualcomm SDR845. However I have no information if SDR845 supports Galileo. And there is no possibility to contact with https://www.qualcomm.com/contact
The question is - why I can't see Galileo satellites on S9+ and is there are any other applications / system codes which can check Galileo support? I am not asking about dual band (L5 GNSS) support. I am asking why in S9+ we lost possibility to see Galileo?
Does anybody have fair SM-G965U1 (XAA region)? Could you check if you phone has possibility to get data from Galileo? YOu just need to install and run GPSTest or GPS Satellites Viewer app.
Seems repetition as with US unlocked Note 8 N950U1 (Snapdragon), which to my disappointment also cannot receive or use Galileo Satellites.
While specs did suppose it would.
My earlier question did not result in any answer

Does the mido support Galileo GPS?

According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
iamfoolish said:
According to what I've seen, the Mido (Qualcomm Redmi note 4 - the international version) is a Qualcomm MSM8953, which supports GPS, Glonass, Beidou and Galileo, though, according to SatStat, on my OmniROM it only picks up GPS and Glonass. Is this a ROM issue or is it a hardware issue?
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Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
Noter2017 said:
Hardware limitation. Snapdragon 625 supports Galileo (BQ phones for example) but our phone doesn't
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Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
iamfoolish said:
Howm does that work? Xiaomi went put of their way to disable it? How and why would they do that?
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To save money.
It's just like with LTE bands. For every LTE band you use in your phone, you have to pay Qualcomm.
Enabling Galileo would have made the phone probably 0,05% more expensive and you probably have to put a Galileo chip on the mainboard which would have cost another 20 Cent.

Realme XT working with Band28-700MHz

I was given this phone by someone whos not tech savvy but had really good intentions. Bottom line is, Im in Panama (Central America) and here we use Band28-700MHz for 4G. According to GSM Arena, this phone will not work here. Any workarounds? I dont mind flashing it or using a custom ROM...I just dont want to go throught the whole proccess of returning it. Takes time and money.
Appreciate your help.
erangel15 said:
I was given this phone by someone whos not tech savvy but had really good intentions. Bottom line is, Im in Panama (Central America) and here we use Band28-700MHz for 4G. According to GSM Arena, this phone will not work here. Any workarounds? I dont mind flashing it or using a custom ROM...I just dont want to go throught the whole proccess of returning it. Takes time and money.
Appreciate your help.
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Euex virsion supported band 28
crocodil said:
Euex virsion supported band 28
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Could you please elaborate a bit on your answer? What do you mean Euex version??
Here is the description phone that my aunt purchased for me
Realme XT 128Gb + 8GB Dual Sim 4G LTE Octa-core Snapdragon 712 International Version -No Warranty (Pearl Blue)
GSM VERSION< DOESNT WORK WITH CDMA CARRIERS LIKE VERIZON OR SPRINT
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 // WCDMA: 1/2/4/5/8 // LTE FDD: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
128GB 8GB RAM // Qualcomm SDM712 Snapdragon 712 (10 nm) CPUOcta-core (2x2.3 GHz Kryo 360 Gold & 6x1.7 GHz Kryo 360 Silver) GPUAdreno 616
Camera: Quad 64 MP, f/1.8, (wide), 1/1.7", 0.8µm, PDAF 8 MP, f/2.3, 13mm (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm 2 MP, f/2.4, 1/5", 1.75µm (dedicated macro camera) 2 MP, f/2.4, 1/5", 1.75µm, depth sensor
Fingerprint (under display, optical), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
You have nfc?
crocodil said:
You have nfc?
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Yes, whats about it?
erangel15 said:
Yes, whats about it?
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version with nfc support 28 band

Question No Dual Band GNSS reception on Xperia 1 III

While using location services on my 1 III I noticed that I am not able to receive any L5 GPS or E5a Galileo Satellites with my 1 III (XQ-BC52 FW 61.0.A.15.35 Android 11). Dual Band GNSS is very useful for improving accuracy in challenging terrains or situations (e.g. using location services in a train), which is explained here https://www.xda-developers.com/dual...location-feature-your-phone-probably-missing/. The lack of Dual Band GNSS for 1 III is suprising because not only do almost all High End Smartphones since 2020 come with it, the Xperia 1 III is even listed as being Dual Band Galileo Capable on the official European Union Galileo Info Page, a reliable source (see https://www.usegalileo.eu/EN/inner.html#data=smartphone or attached screenshot below). I've attached screenshots of GPS Data, GPSTest and Geo++ RINEX Logger, which are tools that can verify L5/E5a Band Reception on capable devices through the Android API. I tested outdoors in Germany on a cloudless sky, but wasnt able to catch a single L5 GPS/E5a Galileo Satellite in various scenarios.
My Question is if you guys can confirm this behavior for your Xperia 1 III (Use the Mentioned Tools from Play Store), preferably on Android 12 (I didn't update yet due to the incompatibility of Gravity Box with A12, maybe Sony added support for Dual Band via the Android 12 Firmware Update). If the stock firmware isn't able to process L5/E5a satellites (judging by the EU listing, the hardware is dual band capable and certified), maybe a modding guru can provide a guide for it. I have Root Access on my device and I am willed to test stuff if needed to make it work.
Thank you all very much in advance.
Best regards
The US model doesn't show dual bands either. I guess Sony's GPS is like their 5G - technically present but incomplete.
I have the same model as you, XQ-BC52, running the latest software A 12 61.1.A.7.35.
Getting the same results as you with GPS test. Have not tried the others (running Google free so it's a pain it it's not on f-droid).
Please post if you find a work around.
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