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Well, it's out, been released and paraded about for all to see. So, what's the general consensus? Personally I'm stuck as to whether this is flop or just meh. I'm leaning towards meh.. I'm also stuck directly between the HOX and the SIII. The One X not only looks better but has a nicer screen. The SGSIII has everything else... well you compromise with every purchase right? Can't wait to read more in depth reviews.
I really hope it doesn't, personally, cause while I'm no manufacturer's fanboy I do have a good track record with Samsung.
http://www.landofdroid.com/2012/galaxy-if/
But this is asks the question Can samsung afford to flop?
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I can say one thing is that by amount of hype Samsung is creating/generating, I am sure it will be a decent upgrade from S2. They will never do that if they knew it's going to be a minor upgrade.
Also I believe they will try to add some other added options to make the May 3 event more attractive. One for sure is the Cloud service from Samsung. 2nd (as per rumours) will be the release of high-end Tab/Note to compete in the iPad territory. All their previous Tabs launched this year were mainly for budget conscious customers, I think it would be great platform for launching their high-end Tabs.
They are aggressively pushing for the Tab/Note market. They had a S-Pen app contest ($205,000 prize money) which just finished. Now they have a new App contest from May, bounty this time increased to 4 million.
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I can say one thing is that by amount of hype Samsung is creating/generating, I am sure it will be a decent upgrade from S2. They will never do that if they knew it's going to be a minor upgrade.
Also I believe they will try to add some other added options to make the May 3 event more attractive. One for sure is the Cloud service from Samsung. 2nd (as per rumours) will be the release of high-end Tab/Note to compete in the iPad territory. All their previous Tabs launched this year were mainly for budget conscious customers, I think it would be great platform for launching their high-end Tabs.
They are aggressively pushing for the Tab/Note market. They had a S-Pen app contest ($205,000 prize money) which just finished. Now they have a new App contest from May, bounty this time increased to 4 million.
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Very true! One thing I would love to see would be a conectivity between the new Galaxy Phone and the Tab. Kind of like what Palm/HP was aiming for with the Pre 3 and the Touchpad. Some kind of built in effortless tap to share, and sharing of notifications and such.
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I highly doubt it. Samsung have created a huge customer base with the SG2 and more than likely most eventually upgrade to the SG3. Best phone I ever had and will undoubtedly get the new galaxy because I have been impressed with the quality of my previous samsung phones unlike the poor htc one x i recently upgraded to after being too impatient to wait for the galaxy s3
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I highly doubt it. Samsung have created a huge customer base with the SG2 and more than likely most eventually upgrade to the SG3. Best phone I ever had and will undoubtedly get the new galaxy because I have been impressed with the quality of my previous samsung phones unlike the poor htc one x i recently upgraded to after being too impatient to wait for the galaxy s3
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I hear you. I had the SGSII as well (The sprint version) and I actually plan on importing the International quad core version of the SGSIII. Like I said I've had really good experiences with the Galaxy S line in general so I have high hopes
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But where does its room for error appear? It’s GPU is still an unknown. Some are speculating that it may use the sam processor as the SGSII’s MALI 400 and simply over clock it. Now that may not be a horrible solution, as this GPU is quite good, but it’s not ideal. It’s competition in this area is the Nvidia Tegra 3 and it’s mighty proprietary GPU. Not to mention the GPU that the iPhone 5 will carry which is rumored to be on par with the Tegra 3. Here’s hoping Samsung steps up.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Indeed. I'm quite surprised to see the tegra3 devices marginally beating the current Mali400MP equipped devices in some graphics bench (nenamark2) comes to mind
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
Well I really hope they have a multiple device release. Like a version that has a dual core and a quad core version. Because if they only release a dual core in the US and and neither come to Verizon I am going to be very upset. The performance of the Galaxy Nexus is disappointing. I need a device that had high Open GL performance and the Nexus does not.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Thank you for pointing this out. Honestly, thank you. When I was doing my research for the article I looked mainly at benchmarks and honestly just scoured forums for posts by people such as yourself who are clearly knowledgeable about these things. But, what I was able to find was pointing to the general consensus of the T3 GPU being rock solid and the best so far. Ultimately its about end performance, and I used gaming as my main point, one only needing to look at Shadowgun THD to see how much different the experience is. And while one can and will argue that games are being optimized for it, it's also true that Nvidia is optimizing their GPU as well, and doing so in a way that few others are doing. So when I say that I hope Samsung steps up, I mean to say that I want to see more than an overclocked GPU from last year's model put into it.
I'm not knocking the SGSIII, I want one. And I wasn't implying that Samsung is going to flop either, or at least, I can attest to the fact that I wasn't trying to. I was simply stating that Samsung needs a huge win here if they want to keep market share and mind share. Looking at the big picture.
Thank you, though, for pointing that out about the T3 GPU. I'm going to do the research you mentioned to become a little more acquainted with it
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pacc said:
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
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Lol and that's one of the points I was trying to make. This phone needs to be breathtaking. Actually, remember the mock invite that went out a while back that had the May 22nd day on it? That showed like a quarter of the bottom of the phone (albeit, a fake render)? That intrigued me. It looked like a distinct break from Sammy's traditional black slab. I kind of want something like that lol
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Ultimately its about end performance, and I used gaming as my main point, one only needing to look at Shadowgun THD to see how much different the experience is.
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All THD games are marketing dollars from Nvidia PR being used at their fullest; from a technical point of view there is absolutely nothing in the THD games that cannot be used on other GPUs, there's cracked versions being able to run on other devices, although they still have some issues, but that's not the point. From a simple consumer's view, yes, they're superior, but from a technical aspect, it's nonsense.
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All THD games are marketing dollars from Nvidia PR being used at their fullest; from a technical point of view there is absolutely nothing in the THD games that cannot be used on other GPUs, there's cracked versions being able to run on other devices, although they still have some issues, but that's not the point. From a simple consumer's view, yes, they're superior, but from a technical aspect, it's nonsense.
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I've been doing a bit of research more in depth like you suggested and you're absolutely right. I guess as it stands, the average consumer, the difference is moot huh? But to those that actually care what goes into their devices, there is a huge difference.
My thanks again!
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It already has flopped in my eyes. A9 processor with the same GPU just overclocked? I could care less about the screen size, RAM, etc. at this point. I was really hoping for that dual core A15 and MaliT6
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It already has flopped in my eyes. A9 processor with the same GPU just overclocked? I could care less about the screen size, RAM, etc. at this point. I was really hoping for that dual core A15 and MaliT6
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And do you want to carry a gas station with you to supply the power? Everybody keep shouting from rooftop that they need A15 with Mali-T6 series, have you EVER considered the fact about power efficiency, battery life and driver optimizations? Or do you want to get a monster phone with 2 hours of battery life? If you were EXPECTING something impractical, then it's your fault, not the OEM's. Did you even read the press release for Exynos 5250 a single time? I can bet that you never did, or you won't be ranting in the threads.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_11.html
It says in big bold letters in the heading "Samsung Announces Industry First ARM Cortex-A15 Processor Samples for Tablet Computer". If that's not clear enough for you that this SoC is meant for the Tab line, I can't say anything more.
pacc said:
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
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GS - 1Ghz SoC + 4" Super AMOLED (Pentile) WVGA + 720p30fps/5MP
GS2 - 1.2Ghz dual + 4.3" Super AMOLED Plus WVGA + 1080p30fps/8MP
SGS3(speculative) - 1.4Ghz Quad 32nm + 4.6/.7 inch Super AMOLED PLUS HD + 1080p/12MP.
No idea on the DAC used, but hope it's Wolfson.
Now I checked around what possible sensor could be used in the SGS3. Like all "leaks", I restricted myself to 12MP sensors and sensors which are now in mass production.
There is only one such sensor - S5K3L1
Details also can be found here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_12mp_and_8mp_backlit_cameraphone_sensors-news-2310.php
This is 1.12um BSI sensor. Captures images at 30fps at full resolution.
Video - 1080p Full HD @ 60fps, 720p at 90fps and 120fps at VGA.
I believe a definite improve in the camera specs too.
I have posted it many time, but I guess I have to post yet again about Mali400. Look carefully at the numbers:
I am sure they will also include GLONASS along with GPS.
The way I look at it, this is a very decent upgrade from SGS2.
flop
even if this device flops and doesnt turn out to be a decent upgrade
samsung might still sell loads of them
its been done before (iphone 4s anyone?)
opera38205 said:
even if this device flops and doesnt turn out to be a decent upgrade
samsung might still sell loads of them
its been done before (iphone 4s anyone?)
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Lol you have a point. But I guess that beckons the question: Is Samsung at the same level that Apple is that they can release a "4S" type upgrade and expect its consumers to be happy?
I don't think so.. Not yet anyways..
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And do you want to carry a gas station with you to supply the power? Everybody keep shouting from rooftop that they need A15 with Mali-T6 series, have you EVER considered the fact about power efficiency, battery life and driver optimizations? Or do you want to get a monster phone with 2 hours of battery life?
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The S4 uses 28nm architecture, meaning it uses less power than every A9 chip.
If you were EXPECTING something impractical, then it's your fault, not the OEM's. Did you even read the press release for Exynos 5250 a single time? I can bet that you never did, or you won't be ranting in the threads.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_11.html
It says in big bold letters in the heading "Samsung Announces Industry First ARM Cortex-A15 Processor Samples for Tablet Computer". If that's not clear enough for you that this SoC is meant for the Tab line, I can't say anything more.
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I promise I've read much more about these chipsets than most members here, I'm not speaking out of my ass. I've seen multiple sources saying that the A15 exynos chip should be due later this year on smartphones. There's not much differentiating a tablet and a smartphone hardware wise aside from the size of the screen, and you really don't think Samsung will release a dual core A15 variant for smartphones soon?
well if S3 does flop(which is very unlikely)
then people will probably buy HTC devides or iphone instead
Android followers are very reasonable lol
S5E4412
People should check The Galaxy S III S5E4412 Processor—A Hacker’s Overview article.
The most interesting thing I noticed was it supports upto 128-bit internal bus. According to comments, Cortex-A8 and A9 cores work on 64 bits at a time, and the Cortex-A15 does 128 bits. So it looks like Samsung pulled the wider NEON unit from the A15 to put in their A9's
Detailed specs for 4412 here:
http://8gpad.com/?p=302
Well guys, the HTC One X + is supposed to be the next big thing. Supposed to have the potential to dominate the iPhone 5, Galaxy S III and Lumia 920 (already has dominated the Lumia seeing as how it's a WIndows phone).
But is it the next phone that I should buy? All signs point to yes!
Here is a comparison between the HTC One X + and the Lumia 920...
Screen Display - HTC One X+ offers a 4.7 inch S-LCD2 display and Nokia Lumia 920 sports a 4.5-inch screen display. HTC claimed that their device is perfect for outdoor viewing which is countered by Nokia's colorful tiles.
Winner: HTC One X+
Processor - The HTC One X+ has a chip upgrade from its predecessor and is powered by a 1.7GHz quad-core chip with 1GB of RAM. Nokia Lumia 920, on the other hand, has a dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor.
Winner: HTC One X+
Operating System - Nokia Lumia 920 is running with Windows Phone 8, which is also a new version of the company's mobile software and promises greater experience. However, the new HTC One X+ comes with the Android v4.1 Jelly Bean.
Winner: Draw
Camera - Both devices have 8 megapixels rear camera. However, Nokia Lumia 920 boasts PureView camera that can capture sharp and vivid images.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
Battery - HTC One X+ sports a 2100 mAh battery that promises longer battery life, which is slightly higher than Nokia Lumia 920's 2000 mAh battery. However, Nokia is equipped with wireless charging feature that allows user to enjoy longer use of the device.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
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Either way, I'll be getting the HTC One X +, I've refused to have been iPwnd for years now and will never submit to Apple. Let's face it, iOS is inferior to Android in every way (at least in my opinion).
What do you guys think?
HTC One X + the way to go???
Thanks!
Honestly, the only advantages of the Lumia 920 might be in the screen(very close, hard to tell until detailed data comes out), definitely in the camera, and maybe in WP8 if it's better than 4.1.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Honestly, the only advantages of the Lumia 920 might be in the screen(very close, hard to tell until detailed data comes out), definitely in the camera, and maybe in WP8 if it's better than 4.1.
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Yeah, the Lumia definitely has it's strong points. But the thing the worries me the most is Windows 8. Microsoft has developed Windows 8 as their mobile, tablet and pc OS. Microsoft, as history shows us, has failed miserably when it comes down to their mobile OS's. This time, however, they have created Windows 8 so that it can work flawlessly (supposedly) over multiple Windows 8 devices rather they be mobile or not.
It looks like they are trying to take charge of the mobile market. Kind of in the same way they are the winners in home, small business and enterprise networking. No one uses Apple products and software for networking in large environments. It's Windows Server 2k3, 2k8, Exchange 2k3/2k8, Sharepoint, SCCM, SCOM, VMware, SQL, Office, and most importantly Active Directory which would obviously be installable on any MS server system.
The point is, MS has failed in the past on the mobile side. They realize this and so they are trying to create devices to where you must use them due to compatibility or just because it's easier.
If Windows 8 fails on the mobile market it will cause major problems with users whom have Windows 8 on their PC's and laptops. Why? Because Microsoft developed this with the mobile market in mind and the the home pc user.
Anyway, I've kind or ran off on a tangent here. But I hope the specs for the One X + are what they say they are going to be and if nothing changes I plan to buy one.
One drawback, looks like AT&T will be the carrier featuring the One X + at first. I left ATT years ago after being a customer for like 8 years (I was with Cingular before which ATT bought out) and switched to Sprint. Now that my contract is up I was thinking Verizon because of the S III, the main reason I went to Sprint was because they had the HTC EVO 4G (or were going to, it had yet to be released at the time). And so I did.. Then Sprint drops WiMax to go with LTE thus rendering the already useless 4G obsolete. I just lived in an area with no WiMax coverage initially.
But for as long as I've had my EVO I've used the 4G twice when I was in Atlanta and that's it. My friend has the SIII and gets 4G all over my area.
In a nutshell, I really would hate to go to AT&T again just for the ONe X +, perhaps an exploit will come out so that we may be able to network unlock the device. We'll see I guess...
The S4 beat the tegra 3 even though it was only dual core compared to the quad core... Benchmars etc
So it's yet to be seen if the tegra 3+ beats the s4 in the 920. Having completely different operating systems doesn't make a good comparison though.
I'm actually thinking if getting the oneX+ since I skipped the original oneX, but I like Windows Phone and I could just keep my titan and get the oneX+.
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Well guys, the HTC One X + is supposed to be the next big thing. Supposed to have the potential to dominate the iPhone 5, Galaxy S III and Lumia 920 (already has dominated the Lumia seeing as how it's a WIndows phone).
But is it the next phone that I should buy? All signs point to yes!
Here is a comparison between the HTC One X + and the Lumia 920...
Screen Display - HTC One X+ offers a 4.7 inch S-LCD2 display and Nokia Lumia 920 sports a 4.5-inch screen display. HTC claimed that their device is perfect for outdoor viewing which is countered by Nokia's colorful tiles.
Winner: HTC One X+
Processor - The HTC One X+ has a chip upgrade from its predecessor and is powered by a 1.7GHz quad-core chip with 1GB of RAM. Nokia Lumia 920, on the other hand, has a dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor.
Winner: HTC One X+
Operating System - Nokia Lumia 920 is running with Windows Phone 8, which is also a new version of the company's mobile software and promises greater experience. However, the new HTC One X+ comes with the Android v4.1 Jelly Bean.
Winner: Draw
Camera - Both devices have 8 megapixels rear camera. However, Nokia Lumia 920 boasts PureView camera that can capture sharp and vivid images.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
Battery - HTC One X+ sports a 2100 mAh battery that promises longer battery life, which is slightly higher than Nokia Lumia 920's 2000 mAh battery. However, Nokia is equipped with wireless charging feature that allows user to enjoy longer use of the device.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
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Either way, I'll be getting the HTC One X +, I've refused to have been iPwnd for years now and will never submit to Apple. Let's face it, iOS is inferior to Android in every way (at least in my opinion).
What do you guys think?
HTC One X + the way to go???
Thanks!
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Sorry. All of these advantages has been outweighed that its a goddamn Tegra 3 which is slow and inefficient. Best of all its made by NVIDIA means no support. Look at those poor Tegra 2 phone/tablet owners having no drivers! I pity them. They should have went for the Snapdragon S4 Quad.
Well the differences in processor (at least to me) is the same as with PC's and Laptops. I grew up in the 90's when Intel was all you ever saw or heard about. They pretty much changed the world with their designs. Then, later on, Advanced Micro Devices shows up and offers nearly the same processing power (but with the bonus of a 64 bit architecture) at 1/4 of the price.
Today you, when building a new PC, choosing to go with Intel or AMD is like choosing between Nike and Reebok when buying a pair of tennis shoes. The quality of both is near the same but the prices are much different.
I'm not sure how price factors in to different processors for mobile phones but I'm certain there is a difference. And with that said I don't think you could go wrong no matter which processor you chose. Lol! Maybe one day we'll be able to choose the type of hardware that goes in our smart phones such as processor, amount/type of RAM, internal solid state storage and perhaps even more or less advanced GPU's.
One thing that I'm happy about is that the HTC One X + will offer a true Quad core processor in the US as opposed to the HTC One X which only offered Quad core in Europe I believe and dual core capability in the US. I wonder how much of a difference that really made though...
Anyway, as I stated in an earlier post, I've never been a fan of any Windows mobile OS. Although, I did own a Samsung Blackjack II several years ago and it ran Windows Mobile and worked well. But there was nothing else to compare it to other than Blackberry's OS. And this phone was supposed to rival the Blackberry as they pretty much dominated the mobile market at that time.
The next phone I bought after the Blackjack II was the EVO 4G. At that point the Android OS had been out for sometime starting with the Google G1 which was one of the most innovative devices ever to hit the mobile market. Now I will give Apple a nibble of credit here. iOS and the iPhone were extremely innovative devices and tons of people love the iPhone.
But 95% of us here on the forums at XDA no better. You are so limited with what you can do with and iPhone but with an Android device... Well, the possibilities are quite literally endless.
Long live Android!!!!
By the way, the comparison I posted above was the only one I could find. I would like to see how the One X + stacks up against the SIII spec for spec. If anyone can find a good compare please post.
Thanks!
Everyone will be a winner if they choose either one
I like the one X+ but idk,I don't like tegra 3 even the improved version...Maybe because of the fact that it's built on 40nm architecture makes it feel old,not to mention that the ULP geforce GPU is nowhere as good as mali or adreno 225/320.The non-removable battery seems a pain in the *** too,especially for people who keep their phones for 2 years+ like me.Also htc sense is pretty heavy imo and I'm not sure if they fixed the multitasking issue or not.
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I like the one X+ but idk,I don't like tegra 3 even the improved version...Maybe because of the fact that it's built on 40nm architecture makes it feel old,not to mention that the ULP geforce GPU is nowhere as good as mali or adreno 225/320.The non-removable battery seems a pain in the *** too,especially for people who keep their phones for 2 years+ like me.Also htc sense is pretty heavy imo and I'm not sure if they fixed the multitasking issue or not.
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Basically Tegra 3 is the worst of all quad-core processors.
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Basically Tegra 3 is the worst of all quad-core processors.
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It crushes Galaxy SIII (int quadcore version) in quadrant. I wouldn't call that weak.
Screens will be very close. Both will be top notch LCD screens so no issues there. Pure Motion is supposed to be good. The only issue will be size. 4.7 vs 4.5. Brightness on the HOX is already good.
S4 is better than T3, T3 is better for gaming with exclusive THD games. S4 performs better on the battery. My sister has the S4 in her HOS and works wonders.
S4 also incorporates a very good DAC which will beat the T3 although Beats audio is a gimmick. But doesn't sound too bad.
Cameras both will be good, Nokia may edge it with OIS. Video recording will be better on the Nokia again with OIS and possibly higher frame rates.
All personal preferences as two totally different OSs.
Now if Nokia made Android devices...
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It crushes Galaxy SIII (int quadcore version) in quadrant. I wouldn't call that weak.
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Crushes? It beats it by a little and yet, the S3 kicks the one x in the booty. Any known the devoloper, hacker will tell u not to rely on quadrant too much, a benchmark tool that gives u 2 very different scores after each run. Run antutu.
Lol the gs3/evolte & n920 already dominate the ip5
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You can't argue about a higher clock speed being faster. In most cases a 1.7ghzx4 will be faster then a 1.4ghzx4. So ofcours the new tegra will be faster.
BUT is it sitting on a 28nm qualcomm chipset that gets ridiculous battery life's at ultra high fsb speeds?
All bull**** aside,the tegra will be faster but might lack development and is nowhere near s4/s4pro technology
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That may not be true. A 3ghz I7. For example would destroy a 3.5ghz i5. Clockspeed is not always king
I personally don't care about benchmarks,I care about how smooth the experience is.Touchwiz is lighter than sense so real life performance might still be better on the GS3,that's not something I'm sure of but well my point is that benchmarks don't mean anything except for GPU benchmarks maybe.The galaxy nexus-for example- is super smooth even with an outdated chip(the nexus' benchmark scores are less than half what the S3 or the one X can achieve).
I have experienced the tegra 3 with my one x all I can say is wait for a quad a15 architecture Qualcomm, tegra 4 or exynos 5. Believe me tegra 3 is bad due to it being 40nm it heats up really easy when playing a game. After experiencing Qualcomm s2 on desire hd I will stick with Qualcomm next time until tegra make something really mouth watering.
I have already seen the benchmarks of tegra 3+ it is on pair with S4 pro with 7500 quadrant score and 14000 on linpack and 850 I think on sunspider. Benchmark wise the tegra 3+ is a massive improvement its not low like tegra 3 due to the bandwidth being increased and switching from DDR2 to DDR3. The only problem with tegra 3+ is its not A15 and its 40nm with doesn't affect benchmark performance but it does affect experience.
I do believe the HTC one x+ when it comes out it will have excellent battery life and performance but the only think I don't like is the camera performance, out put speakers are poor compared to other flagships, and it has that camera hump.
I want to see a phone like HTC one x but 4.3 inch with a sd card then I'll say I'm impressed the only phone I have ever seen that ticks the most boxes is iPhone 4s because it's small and powerful with a good camera, speaker are the best, microphones and design. Like the HTC one x+ but it's to big the camera sticks out and it made of polycarbonate which on my white HTC one x gets really dirty. I also like heavy phones even if HTC one x+ is good it no where near feels as good as HTC desire hd weighing at 168 grams that feels solid.
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By the time the One X+ is out, the T3 will be an obsolete platform... especially compared to the S4 Pro Quad that will probably become commonplace.
Couple that with a fixed battery, no options for microSD expansion, and you have a phone that is not very future proof. I guess that's more important to me than for others though. 64gb of maximum internal storage is nothing to drool about, especially in a phone that hasn't even been released. Though again, the effects of this limitation are more pronounced for those who run/hike/mountaineer in places with no internet reception so internet access/streaming is really limited and you hate having to constantly trade music on/off your phone to make space.
Do people still buy phones to be future proof? I would have thought that if you were concerned about that, I you have a plan to upgrade every 18/24 months?
Sent from my soon to be replaced HTC Desire (by a HTC One X +)
You have to care more about software than hardware if you want a future-proof device.The optimus G for example is probably the most powerful smartphone on earth but is it going to see any updates ? Probably not.Maybe only a buggy jelly bean firmware that will take months to be released then you are stuck with no more updates and a locked bootloader.
You could always go with the LG Nexus if you're concerned about updates. But then again, we're only hearing about an 8 gig model with no SDCard at this point.
I'm (im)patiently waiting to get my first Android phone before the end of the year. Current front runners are the One X+ and LG Nexus if they can up the storage and definitely have LTE on AT&T. Not seeing anything else out there currently that interests me. GS3 is nice, but I want a brighter screen and don't care for the plastic housing. Love the feel of the current One X.
Choices, choices!
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
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http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
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This is lovely; I like it a lot.I wonder what the price will be though for each version?
Very interesting indeed!
I decided the Z3 tablet is a bit much for me as a phone but this one could be the one if it gets any dev behind it and a good screen of course.
Agreed about whether a hacker community forms around it.
Before I buy a device, I check XDA and Modaco to see whether anyone else is working on it.
Hmmm, the SoC used has a Mali GPU, but I don't know anything about the CPU
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Mediapad X2 boasts an "ultra" octa-core, 64-bit Kirin 930 chipset clocked in at 2.0Ghz
The development for Huawei are pathetic at best.. I have ascend mate 1 & 2. Benchmarks are ok but real life use is pretty laggy. I gave up on the company. Look at their flagship, the mate 7. It's out for a while but there's still no custom rom if I am not wrong..
For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on
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For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on
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Agree:good:
I am open to other manufacturers working on 7-8 inch devices but in order to be a viable replacement, some things are necessary:
1. Snapdragon 810 or 820
2. 3-4 GB RAM
3. 32-128 GB internal storage
4. MicroSDXC slot
5. 6.5-8 inch display with 2K resolution or higher
6. Vanilla Android or a lightly skinned version (Sony or Motorola style)
7. Developer friendliness with decent ROM support
8. Adequate camera (12 MP is perfectly fine)
9. Support for an external camera module (DSC-QX10 et al)
It would be great with a keyboard flipcover accessory as well.
A device without microSD slot and a lack of ROMs would fail to replace the Ultra in a proper way. The same goes for heavily skinned Android implementations or a lack of hardware standardization (a lot of different ROM incompatible versions).
The Huawei MediaPad X2 could be a "replacement" provided decent ROM support and similar LTE bands as the Ultra but I am not sure about those things.
I am quite sure that a viable "replacement" to the Ultra will be either a Sony device or something from a Chinese manufacturer. I still hope for an Oppo or Xiaomi since I think it is those two companies that would be able to actually tick the boxes properly if Sony would let us down with a Z4 Ultra. Similar hardware as the new Z4 Tablet would be great.
For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak when they consider what's acceptable as their phone/daily driver but I like that it blurs the line of whats acceptable as a phone or tablet and I like that for me it's both...The Zu is my phone when I need to make calls text etc add to that the convenience of probably the best Web browsing experience on any device I have ever used with phone capability, decent battery, powerful innards, then let me at it-i say!!
Let the naysayers nay.
However the Huawei pad while spec wise is great it just seems to push that boundary of what I would consider manageable as a Phone.
I enjoy the tall slender ergonomics of the Zu but the Huawei just looks too wide and tablet-y for what I would consider manageable...I do like the smaller bezels tho
Less than a quarter inch taller and half inch wider, has an sd slot and the processor is supposed to be 16 nm die size similar to Apple.A9 chip.
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The development for Huawei are pathetic at best. I gave up on the company.
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It's all because it's ''made in China'' .
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For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak
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Lol, you just reminded me. Several days back I was ordering a Chicken Twister Meal from some fast food restaurant called SFC (Southern Fried Chicken) .
Anyway I placed my order and took a seat since it needed time to prepare. Wife calls and I answer and we start chatting...
I noticed the two Filipino women who took my order were both whispering to each other whilst looking at me and were laughing...
Needless to say I know exactly why they were laughing. They saw me speaking on such a huge phone which wasn't normal for them
and it really made them laugh...
I didn't give a $hit and continued. Other times whilst on the phone, I've had looks/hard stares and in some cases women approach me and ask what phone I have, model and size. There have been many stares especially when taking the phone out my pocket whilst on the train. Half the cabin are staring wondering what phone you have and shocked at it's huge size.
When people do give funny looks I couldn't care less especially because of another thing I saw. On several occasions, I've even seen people talking on 8-10" tablets!!! They were not using earphones, the phone was on their ear, now that looks a lot funnier than my 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra...
Another candidate
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Indeed I prefer the x2 as well. I mean, if I am moving from the Ultra I rather do it to a bigger phone but not so sure about the chipset of the x2. I wish it was the Snapdragon 810.
Also, on the ZTE, well, it is the same size as my Ultra so the only way for me to upgrade would be if it was some better looking screen (darker blacks etc) and replaceable batteries. I guess I am happy enough with the Ultra that I can be picky
I don't trust these chinese manufactures.
It will be stuck on the same Android Version for ages, with next to no development.
I have had both the Huawei Ascend Mate7 with an Octa Core Kirin 925 @1.8GHz and the Huawei MediaPad X1 with a Quad Core VR91 @1.6GHz.
The X1 was just too slow and laggy but other than that it was a great device. It looks very nice and build quality was comparable to an iPhone 5 or 6. Of course it's big but I used it as a phone and had no issues with it.
The Mate7 was too small for my taste but performance wise I had no issues. It was comparable to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 in that regard.
The MediaPad X2 uses a Kirin 930 @2.0GHz and has Lollipop so I have no doubt it will not be a laggy device.
With regard to ROMs, if you install another launcher the Huawei software is bearable. It's not like TouchWiz. I am looking forward to getting the X2 and if it can be rooted I think I will be satisfied. Hopefully Huawei will come out with a proper European version without the Chinese stuff on it.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Have been tracking this device (x6 with 3GB RAM & 128gb) at least for the past 6-7 months as I was getting restless for new phone (I change phones every 3 months). Since there was no release date on sight, I sold my XZU, bought Lumia 1520 but found it small for my taste (But loved Windows OS; one for future if they launch with 6.2+ screen size) so sold it off after 1 month and re bought XZU again!
Have been tracking this phone in below website where the Customer care is promising launch dates (3GB+128gb) but nothing has been done in almost 6 months.
http://www.nubiamobileshop.com/nubi...pdragon-801-2gb-32gb-13-0mp-camera-white.html
However, if it launches for around $400 (which is not going to happen as 2gb version is around $450 and 3gb one will around $700), I would definitely look into it as Mediapad X2 looks too wide and will be difficult to hold.
Definitely interested in this device, but I wonder what the price will be. Hard to compete with the Ultra since it can be had for less than 300.
ZTE Nubia X6
Snapdragon 801
6,44" fullhd display
3 gb ram
32 / 64 / 128 gb
lte, bluetooth 4.0, nfc, wi-fi abgn, infrared
4500 mah battery
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What planet are you living on... ? (for clarification phablet means AT LEAST 6in. Or bigger...)
Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRnbm9wrzg
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Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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I am also curious to know how this translates. The guy who created this benchmarks specifically states its supposed to translate to real world performance pretty well, but that's taking his word for it. We will see.
https://www.androidauthority.com/speed-test-g-926659/
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
Really want an exynos chispset for the unlock, but none of them support band 71 as far as I know. Currently faced with a huge dilemma
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2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Latin American and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants were unlocked from the start (previous models) but turns out they need to be unlocked manually, I assume though some type of vulnerability.
People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
Samsung has proven it knows what it's doing with exynos in years past. If there does happen to be an issue, I'm certain they can issue a fix for their in-house built processor.
Isn't this just the same old fundamental issue Anandtech much talked about with the Exynos S9 last year? At least its not looking as bad as last year's SOC.
Exynos fares better here (compared to other reviews).
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s10_plus-review-1901p5.php
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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That is very impressive. Usually iphones are extremely hard to beat. It's good to see that Samsung is finally learning to remove bloatware and create much lighter software.
Here it is for anyone else;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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The S10 phones have UFS 2.1, the first phone with UFS 3.0 will be the Galaxy Fold
That xs max vs s10 video, scrolling was pretty choppy on the right phone.
The exynos model is alot better for battery life than the s9. As mentioned above the exynos model will usually run smoother and have better battery life.
Just got my S10e G970F setup and updated to the new patch with Feb security. This thing flies. Repeat.. no performance issues in casual use and I'm not sure under what conditions there would be issues. I'm sure Pubg runs just fine. Feels a noticable step faster than my Pixel 3, which is exactly what I was expecting. Full day battery test tomorrow..
Benchmarks are nothing.
(And really liking this phone so far)
Who's already thinking about upgrading their phone, according to the current informations we have about the future Note? And which phone do you want to replace it with?
I'll start: I'm a big fan of the Note series since the first one (I don't use the Spen that much, but I find the overall design and specs to be quite nice, I prefer it over the S series). I usually skip one iteration because I find on one year they add features, and the next year they fix some of the previous year's mistakes. I even had the Note7... not for long So now, even it it still rocks, I'm thinking about replacing my Note9 with a Note20, for the cameras, the display, and all that stuff. Yes I'm totally into the consumer's profile, paying the full bill for a "minor" upgrade, but I enjoy it
What about you guys?
I'm hyped!
Note 10+ here, but I got the upgrade plan or whatever through Samsung with every intention of getting this year's model.
My biggest excitement? 120Hz screen and the new colors. Improved camera as well. I'm hopeful the battery life will remain similar despite the increase in refresh rate.
I'm actually trying to find out reasons to NOT get the Note 20 Ultra and I'm not finding many so far which is a good thing.
that camera bump is MASSIVE.
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that camera bump is MASSIVE.
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Big bump, but the array looks way better than the S20 Ultra.
Oh Im getting it for sure, the new copper color.
Will be keeping my note 10 plus though and still even use my copper note 9 once in awhile lol.
On an S8 and have been putting off a new phone because every time I get hyped I read about what the NEXT one is going to have, most recently skipped the S20 because the 120hz doesn't work on the highest resolution, but I think the Note 20 Ultra will finally be what I drop money on. As long as I don't hear rumors of the S21 folding my laundry...
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I really want to get this phone. But I gotta say I'm a little disappointed with the news being reported today that Samsung is sticking with the Exynos 990 (note the rumored Exynos 992) again for international models, while the US, Japan, China, etc get the Snapdragon 865+. There was already about a 20% difference in power between the Exynos 990 and the regular Snapdragon 865 with the S20 models, now that gap will likely be larger.
Don't get me wrong, I think I will still get the Note 20 Ultra as I'm a huge fan of the Note series and I don't think I can wait another year to upgrade from my Note 8. I just wish I wasn't going to get an inferior processor for the same high price as others are paying for the Snapdragon variant.
I'd be interested to hear what others here think about this.
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I really want to get this phone. But I gotta say I'm a little disappointed with the news being reported today that Samsung is sticking with the Exynos 990 (note the rumored Exynos 992) again for international models, while the US, Japan, China, etc get the Snapdragon 865+. There was already about a 20% difference in power between the Exynos 990 and the regular Snapdragon 865 with the S20 models, now that gap will likely be larger.
Don't get me wrong, I think I will still get the Note 20 Ultra as I'm a huge fan of the Note series and I don't think I can wait another year to upgrade from my Note 8. I just wish I wasn't going to get an inferior processor for the same high price as others are paying for the Snapdragon variant.
I'd be interested to hear what others here think about this.
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The rumor also suggests a thin possibility of a "SD865+ in all markets".
If 990 continues, it will definitely be NOT my Note lol.
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Oh Im getting it for sure, the new copper color.
Will be keeping my note 10 plus though and still even use my copper note 9 once in awhile lol.
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I love the copper and also the alleged green color (the rendering). Seems like a lot of options for colors in the rumors... It'll be interesting.
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Likely to keep happening as people push for better cameras.
I use a case, so it won't bother me much at all.
I also hope there will be some sort of pre-purchase offer, for example a refund if you send your old device back maybe, like they did for the Note9.
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I also hope there will be some sort of pre-purchase offer, for example a refund if you send your old device back maybe, like they did for the Note9.
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I hope so too! Have been away from Samsung for a while, I think this will be my first entry back into the ecosystem.
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I'm actually trying to find out reasons to NOT get the Note 20 Ultra and I'm not finding many so far which is a good thing.
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the ONLY reason whoould be that Samsung will again charge us the same money for Exynos chipset eventhough South Korea, China, US and Canada will get Snapdragon 865+ which would be with 30% more powerful and more power efficient.
This means approx. 3hrs SoT more for the Snapdragon 865+ ..
And Samsung it makes it even more difficult if we will buy Snapdragon 865+ note 20 Ultra from US or somewhere else, because in EU they are not supporting warranty for the Snapdragon devices..and they neither do service where customer pays money because they don;t have the spare parts..which is awful..
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the ONLY reason whoould be that Samsung will again charge us the same money for Exynos chipset eventhough South Korea, China, US and Canada will get Snapdragon 865+ which would be with 30% more powerful and more power efficient.
This means approx. 3hrs SoT more for the Snapdragon 865+ ..
And Samsung it makes it even more difficult if we will buy Snapdragon 865+ note 20 Ultra from US or somewhere else, because in EU they are not supporting warranty for the Snapdragon devices..and they neither do service where customer pays money because they don;t have the spare parts..which is awful..
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I feel the same. But I'm also quite conflicted on this for another reason.
Snapdragon phones are locked down, usually they can’t be rooted, and users can’t flash custom recoveries/ROMs.
There are of course exceptions to this but the Exynos variants are definitely better for development purposes.
Now for the first 2 years that probably won't bother me as the stock software would be fine. But once Samsung no longer provides OS updates it's really nice to be able to run custom ROMs.
If only we could get an Exynos device with comparable performance to Snapdragon.
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I feel the same. But I'm also quite conflicted on this for another reason.
Snapdragon phones are locked down, usually they can’t be rooted, and users can’t flash custom recoveries/ROMs.
There are of course exceptions to this but the Exynos variants are definitely better for development purposes.
Now for the first 2 years that probably won't bother me as the stock software would be fine. But once Samsung no longer provides OS updates it's really nice to be able to run custom ROMs.
If only we could get an Exynos device with comparable performance to Snapdragon.
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Exynos 992 on 6nm or 5nm with arm x78 architecture is the best soution as of now for Note 20 Utra
If Samsung does a really strong trade in offer (I have a Note 9) to get the price reasonable, and ideally a throw in offer like the new ear buds, I'm in. Multiple Note owner (had the Note 4, 7 and 9) and really looking forward to a camera with a real zoom and better battery life. Looks like a winner!
Note 20 Ultra Colors
Does anyone have a link or list of what the Note 20 Ultra colors will actually be? Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone have a link or list of what the Note 20 Ultra colors will actually be? Thanks in advance.
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I read somewhere the 3 colors for the Ultra will be that new copper color, then black and white.
One with Exynos 990 & the other one with SD865+, Samsung will STILL find them to be equally performing..
And a lot will believe it too.
I went from a Note 10+ to a Oppo Find X2 Pro instead of waiting for the Note 20 series, simply for the fact that every leak was pointing to European users being stuck with a Exynos 990 & I don't regret my decision at all, Samsung themselves are so blind they that continue to argue that the Exynos 990 is on the same level as the Snapdragon 865/+, it's ridiculous and from a consumer point of view, unacceptable, we're paying the same premium price but for a worse equipped device.
Many argue that it's only noticeable in benchmarks or on paper etc. But it isn't, it affects camera performance, camera quality, gaming performance, thermal performance, app fluidity, all the important parts of a smartphone experience, Snapdragon is far far ahead.
Sorry for the rant but it's just frustrating, hopefully one day Samsung will listen, in the meantime I'll enjoy my Snapdragon equipped Oppo :good: